/40kg/

SniperGod
SniperGod

Tau waifu edition

Sautekh preview, Tomb Blades are finally usable
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warhammer-community.com/2018/03/20/preview-the-mephrit-dynasty-and-destroyersgw-homepage-post-2/
veekyforums.com/thread/58590224/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58618358/games

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

first for

JunkTop
JunkTop

2nd for wait till page 10 next time

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Soon

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

So, what do you think of this list.
How would you cope?

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Any tips for Chaos Gate? Just got it installed, in working order and accidently set my sergent on fire trying to get into the cultist base.

askme
askme

Alcohol probably, it's what I use to cope with most things.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

So hypothetically, if Imperial guard were to get their own triple A-style First Person Shooter game, what iconic Warhammer 40,000 weapons should be included?

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Imperial guard 1st person shooter
If this isn't a
you have a lasgun, run into the enemy, die, and immediately get control of a new guy, rinse repeat ad naseum
The game will be shit, and the weapon selection would not be worth mentioning.

It just wouldn't work in any sensible way. Better make an inquisitor'ish game where you fight humans who has fallen. IG will either make no sense, or play like a shitty battlefield game.

DeathDog
DeathDog

So...helldivers?

TechHater
TechHater

new thread
all posts are namefags
What do?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Horus did 9/11

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

*Blocks your path*

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

They can be stormtroopers to be relevant

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

*Does 9/11*

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Namefags
Tempestus Scionanon is not namefagging

Booteefool
Booteefool

What about a SW battlefront 2 style game?
The campaign format would fit 40k very well.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Double lifespan
Now lives for 20 minutes
Woo fucking hoo.

Take your HFY wank elsewhere. It does not belong in 40k.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I just finished reading dead men walking and i have to say that it was nowhere as good as 15 hours.
Does Veeky Forums only like it because Gunthar got cucked?

Spamalot
Spamalot

What does Melta actually look like when you fire it?

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farquit
farquit

Expand your filter list.

viagrandad
viagrandad

HFY
not belonging in 40k

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

lasguns
OK against armor, long range but no scope on anything but longlas ver.
autoguns
Faster firing, shorter range and worse vs armor.
Boltguns
Very high damage, very high recoil, not accurate at long ranges unless upgeaded.
Chainswords
3 button melee system. Four directional attack/block and a shove/shoot pistol button.

Unsure about what else you could toss in there. Aside from shotguns, of course.

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

youtube.com/watch?v=ZLJ8PhZlso8

takes2long
takes2long

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massdebater
massdebater

Yeah, against other humans. And then you might as well play battlefront or battlefield.

Against orks, nids, or whatever other races you want included, they would not have a snowballs chance in hell without massively outnumbering them. And I would rather not have to suffer through a thousand random assholes in my games.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

The setting where the average human soldier is expected to die within an hour in his first real fight.
HFY
This is a muhreen setting, where superior godlike beings save the day every single time. The IG are there to make the muhreen look better.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

*Biles your path*

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Techpill
Techpill

It worked for tau.

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Methnerd
Methnerd

Tomb Blades ride soon!

TreeEater
TreeEater

tfw you will never play a Duke Nukem like starring Colonel Iron "Thot" Hand Straken.
tfw you'll never bitchslap Xenos scum
tfw you'll never summarily execute a retreating soldier while ripping out a bug's intestines
tfw will never be the emperor's finest

Why live?

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

meltaguns were described in the 3rd edition rulebook as being extremely thin, concentrated jets of flame, and they're mentioned to produce no noise during operation whatsoever, save for the noise of something being fucked up by it

Firespawn
Firespawn

Tau superiority intensifies
To be fair, that game was pure, undiluted fluff rape.

WebTool
WebTool

what are plasmaguns
what are meltaguns
what are grenade launchers
what are flamers
what are sniper rifles

And those are just human weapons. Grab a shuriken catapult, the commissar isn't watching.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

The entirety of Catachan
Not HFY
Yup, totally

StonedTime
StonedTime

Plasma guns, best overall but if they overheat they do severe damage to you

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

It not making any sound is retarded, it's basically the industrialized, weaponized version of a welding rig. It'd make a fwoosh sound as the material being turned into the flaming hot stream is released. Not loud but not silent.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I don't know is warp fuckery really fluff rape, because that was the explanation for everything. In the book at least.

TechHater
TechHater

He was empowered by Khorne to fuck up shit. The novel goes into deeper detail, but the front cover alone should clue in even the densest of motherfuckers playing that game.

eGremlin
eGremlin

past few threads in a nutshell

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Have you never played an FPS?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

It has been great.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

If you owned this list, what would you trade / get rid of and what would you buy for it?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Don't think you'll get much for that...

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Reposted from the previous thread cause it died.

My dudes are a fleet based chapter, and often operate as independent demi and battle companies, far beyond the Emperor's light. As such, while they generally follow the company set up from the holy space book, they don't really have any 'reserve' companies, just 10ish motley battle companies, with a squad or 2 of veterans recruited from the company's ranks.
As the patrol fleets go about their business, how big would their scout/initiate detachments be? Since the chapter doesn't have a dedicated scout company of about 100 scouts, and each company is responsible for their own replacements, the overall number would be higher, correct? Given regular levels of recruitment and attrition, of course.

Supergrass
Supergrass

If you owned this list, what would you trade / get rid of and what would you buy for it?

dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/753204.page

Lunatick
Lunatick

worked is a strong word

"ITS QUIET"

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

excuse me Shas'la what are you doing with the Gue'las skulls
BLOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD
ok carry on

King_Martha
King_Martha

Not him, but while the warp fuckery explains his success where it should not have realistically been possible, the game fails to adhere to basic fluff when showing a lot of things in this game. Like a lasgun lacking a bigger punch than pulse weapons. I realize your start weapon is not supposed to be superior to all future weapons you get, but one of the most powerful weapons you get is a bolter, which should literally be worse than the Pulse Rifle/Carbine in every single way possible.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Good for the Blood God?

Soft_member
Soft_member

It is okay, well just need the other races and make them act like humans, fuck fluff right

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

BLOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD
SKULLS FOR THE SUPREME LEADER AUN'VA

5mileys
5mileys

It is okay, well just need the other races and make them act like humans, fuck fluff right
8th edition in a nutshell

cum2soon
cum2soon

Buy Leman Russes.

takes2long
takes2long

The Cain books often mention a fwoosh sound, iirc, as well as super bright flash.

Inmate
Inmate

No amount of skill will make a fight between a lasgun IG and a Chaos Space Marine with a boltgun even remotely close.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Mfw I am converting up a Tau faction who were supposed to worship "the Greater Bad"
I like this idea. Might steal it. Mine is shit.b

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

And yet the glorious Imperial Guardsman is the most cost effective way ij game to take down Warlord Titans.

Skullbone
Skullbone

When in doubt affix bayonets.

Evilember
Evilember

The fuck does warlord titans have to do with this discussion?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Kasrkinanon

FUCK now we have multiple personality disorder AND one of them is a hipster. Great. As if being part of Tempestus Scionanon's fractured identity wasn't hard enough.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

The guardsmen can kill titans the CSM can't.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Any tips?

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

You can't stop me you may have discontinued my minatures but I'll live on forever

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

CSM: I'LL STOMP YOU TO DEATH AND FEAST ON YOUR CARCASS!
IGcuck: O.. okay, but can you kill a warlord titan?
CSM: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
*Unintelligible screams of pain and agony as the IGcuck is torn apart*
The Chaos Marine will AT BEST laugh that the imperials warlord titans can be taken down by their own lowly grunts, right before stomping them to death.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Stormtroopers only live for 20min
Take your HFY wank elsewhere. It doesn't belong in 40k.

First of all it very much does, not that a game about Stormtroopers would have to be HFY, and Stormtroopers frequently survive pretty long.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

From what i remember from the last time I played it the game is a complete and utter buggy mess.

Looks like you're fucked.

girlDog
girlDog

A kotor style dark heresy game would be pretty awesome

Bidwell
Bidwell

I've managed to get it working with no stuttering, sound or display issues, so I think I'm good so far.

massdebater
massdebater

muh death rates

Meanwhile, many cadian regiments survive long enough, perfectly intact, to muster out of the guard and colonize newly conquered planets

Inmate
Inmate

Have you lit some incense and prayed to the machine spirits?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

IGcuck

hairygrape
hairygrape

We are releasing a new game!
Astra Military: Cucktroopers
Experience firsthand the battle as seen through the eyes of a stormtrooper. The most difficult game of the century, with the mandatory ending where you watch as all your hard fought effort is rendered invalid by the superior actions and charisma of the Space Marines(TM).
Subscribe to the season pass to get access to the Space Marine(tm) campaign coming this fall, where you get to finally play as the real deal, and see he irrelevant your actions where.

Playboyize
Playboyize

That is because they generally never face any actual combat, or the combat is purely a few heretics or Tau/random alien civilians.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'd mortal wound the fuck out of those riptides.

Methshot
Methshot

CSM:ok time for battle
Chaos Lord: Sorry buddy but gonna have to leave you behind
CSM: Why
Chaos Lord: Well the cultists just perform better overall and the imperial guard has us out gunned and out numbered and we need to even the playing field you understand
Chaos Lord: Don't be sad though there are some rubrics over there you can play with.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Cheesing against 8th ed r.i.p.tides
I bet you also cheesed against greentide lists in 7th.

TreeEater
TreeEater

dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/753204.page
All the marine shit.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This post has the Tempestus Scionanon seal of approval.

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Snarelure
Snarelure

You realize the discussion is about an IG FPS, right?

Skullbone
Skullbone

tfw T'au just becomes Imperial Guard for weebs

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Emberburn
Emberburn

It is literally a write of conquest. As in, the regiment fought for so long, and ended up successfully claiming a planet, so they moved in as a reward for their duty

RavySnake
RavySnake

Ok remember that time a single firewarror killed an entire chaos invasion and hundreds of CSM on his own do that but with a guardsmen.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I dissaprove of this post.

RumChicken
RumChicken

This is a pretty sad truth.
tfw Chaos and T'au both just become infantry-spam Guard

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Don't forget killing an undivided Lord of Change.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How should I paint my Tempestus Scions?

TechHater
TechHater

See

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You and I are enemies now.

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

a tau can be empowered by khorne
can't do an FPS about a human who is more susceptible to the warp because....

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

red

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

As much as this is just bait, it could work if you played an Afriel Strain soldier.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Don't listen to this fag pick blue, paint them like Ultramarines but smol.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Tau are the Old Ones reborn
Sigmar and Omegon are the lost primarchs (see photo)
The Emperor deliberately caused certain primarchs to fall to Chaos
Orks are the rightful inheritors of the galaxy
Deathwatch is the best chapter
Lorgar is the true villain of 40K
Pariahs were the best thing about Necrons
Primaris Marines were a mistake
Your dudes > Canon Dude. Always.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Not measuring efficiency in warlord removal
Casual

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Flecktarn

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

but what color is the trim?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

fuck off me

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So be it.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I do mine in grey and brown.

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Spamalot
Spamalot

Wanting to play an IG game where you are actually just a Chaos Worshipping cultist.
The absolutely state of IGcucks.

To be fair though, that would be a pretty cool concept. Getting random chaos gifts as you progress, and having to adapt to your new powers would be pretty neat.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Yeah? Well fuck me too.

White and gold, to get that legitimate ultras feel.

farquit
farquit

Basically.
Shit sucks, Tau became a horde army which isn't tau at all

viagrandad
viagrandad

Ok remember that time a single firewarror empowered by khorne killed an entire chaos invasion and hundreds of CSM on his own do that but with a guardsmen.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Hey all. i was thinking of painting my admech robes with some kind of camo. was think something similar to pic related but i was wondering if anyone else has any good ideas?

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takes2long
takes2long

Why do you dislike the Imperial Guard so much? Show me on the Titan where the Shadowsword touched you, user.

askme
askme

Do you brainlets not understand tgat the guard commander who uses his men as simple fodder for the meatgrinder is not the rule, butv exception and is usually harshly punished?
Also the IG is at least as well trained as any armed forces of our time, probably better.

Bidwell
Bidwell

1/100 chance to instead be turned into a chaos spawn.

Best speed game 2018.

massdebater
massdebater

Enjoy Smite while you can

Blobhammer

likme
likme

Not measuring efficiency in warlord removal
IG player actually believe this
Tell me again why people aren't complaining about IG, because they have been completely busted since 8th, and the bandwagon has obviously begun, when we see people actually saying shit like this.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

See

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You were the one that reeeed about needing to be chaos empowerd for it to work I just want a fun FPS where I can kill orks in hilarious ways.

Playboyize
Playboyize

I usually come up with some fluff for my dudes then use that to determine the colour scheme.

Methnerd
Methnerd

You are quite wrong. FWs make up the largest part of any Tau force and that is now reflected on the table.

TreeEater
TreeEater

since 8th

The leafblower began in late 5th young Scionanon, and it has not stopped blowing since. 7th was a short repreive where we were overshadowed by the Taudar menace.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Just memeing my friend.

A Chaos Cultist IG-like game would be pretty bitching.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Ok remember that time a single firewarror empowered by khorne killed an entire chaos invasion and hundreds of CSM on his own do that but with a chaos cultist.

Skullbone
Skullbone

they're space Byzantines kicking around on a giant space rock

Firespawn
Firespawn

Still forced to complete the game as a has spawn

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

So let me get this straight, I can still put a stimulant injector on my suits; because there isn't an option for it in the codex, but there is one in the index, and I can still use the statline and point costs from the codex? That's gonna get FAQ'ed super hard, right?

DeathDog
DeathDog

I have no idea why my autocorrect changed 5th to 8th. "Since 8th" sounds retarded when that is literally months ago.

Even in 7th, they were only overshadowed by the immense cheese out there, and even then, we have always had the tools to deal with everything.

eGremlin
eGremlin

How can Forgeworld release this? Retro doesn't mean good.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

These loyal sons of the Emperor

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FastChef
FastChef

Now you are getting it. God boy

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I wish they hadn't taken away Medusas/Collosi.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It was actually FAQd that it IS allowed. So yeah...

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

return to base aftsr being "spawned"
dialogue wasn't prepared for this
"Soldier! Where is the rest of your platoon?"
Splaghtch ghreeeeelich Gnaahkleeem
"Damn those traitorous bastards! You heard him men, affix bayonets!"

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Finally got around to making my list legal, dropped the Rhino and changed a squad of Witch Hunters to Prosecutors, giving me the points to take a basic Custodes Vexila and move the Custodes to a Vanguard Detachment.
Anything wrong with this list aside from SoS being a shite pair up with Custodes?

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Cost roughly 350 US for the fire warriors
In total maybe ~1000 US new

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Wait a second...

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

dont use flame weapons
turn down scroll speed

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I don't see a recent FAQ; not since the 5th for Necromunda

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Nothing escapes the ever vigilant commissar.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

:/ if they're Byzantines why camo cloaks rather than bold mono colour?
But if you must I guess you'd probably want to go with monochrome camouflage patterns being that there isn't much in the way of vegetation oh the average asteroid

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Well respected
Sterling reputation
This is what "trying too hard" means.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Not in an FAQ, but they responded to it on social media clarifying it was okay to take from both codex and index. Don't expect to get a different ruling in a FAQ.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Wow, so my Ghostkeel will continue to take Target Lock+ SI

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Inquisitor Greyfax
Acolytes of Ordo Xenos

Methshot
Methshot

Fuck I'm an idiot, cheers for pointing that out.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So has someone got a mega for this yet?

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Can you double up on support systems?

RavySnake
RavySnake

No.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What is the spookiest army you can make?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Read the book. It literally tells you in the page that lists your support systems.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I don't play tau, I was just curious.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What new units should be added to Tempestus Scions, Tempestus Scionanons?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

SI is shit compared to shield for a -2 to hit model

Lunatick
Lunatick

Didn't know Scions had twin-linked.

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Depends on what your opponents use to kill your ghostkeels.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Scionanon 55 results
Wow

Soft_member
Soft_member

We should have a scout unit with snipers and I'd like to see some kind of vehicle with toughness higher than the T6 Taurox that tries to everything at once.

I suppose they just expect you to take Valkyries and auxiliaries though, but I'm not bringing any filthy fucking ratlings.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

good morning my little scionanons, traffic was a bit shit this morning

happy_sad
happy_sad

Fucked up my arm lifting, unable to even straighten it now
Huge pile of kits for 3 factions just sitting here
All the time in the world but I cant build or paint
Truly I am in hell

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Heavy weapon team or saboteur team
medic hq
leadership 7 command squads

massdebater
massdebater

see

hairygrape
hairygrape

but there is only one true scionanon, can you guess which one?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Melta-guns fire a microwave beam, the sound they make is from whatever they're hitting getting superheated.

Well, that and the little bell to let you know when the enemies of mankind are cooked through.

Methshot
Methshot

A CSM warband, my arsehole clenches tighter than a choir boy before confession when I see some slanneshi terminators on a list

Evilember
Evilember

Its a mystery.

RavySnake
RavySnake

The one true tempestus scionanon wouldnt change his name, silly imposter

WebTool
WebTool

Infiltrate my kroot and deep strike my stingwings. Take out your hammer heads with my broadsides.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

But is it spooky?
I'm thinking flayed ones+nightbringer+vehicles with pilot removed+Canopteks
Dead Men walking makes them sound spooky

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Hey gaiz, you can use different chapter tactics for different detachments so long as they are painted correctly, right?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

If we're all tempestus scionanons then it's the same as being anonymous. The enemy cannot post if you disable his hand. I mean name.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Spooky D ghost.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Coven

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King_Martha
King_Martha

I feel you man; about 6 months ago I'd really just gotten back into painting and playing, had three armies in the works and was trying to make a point of getting in a game a week, when I fucked up my neck and ended up with shooting pains down my back and arm all the time. Hope you get better soon.

girlDog
girlDog

ice blue & white

Bidwell
Bidwell

Yes, but it is called ‘soup’ and is frowned upon.

Inmate
Inmate

Just finished making a terminator inquisitor out of spare bits
is the banner topper too much?
ignore the shitty paint, like I said, spare bits

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Methnerd
Methnerd

only by some people in here, most don't mind and let you play as you see fit

Skullbone
Skullbone

The flyer featured in The Carrion throne. I also wouldn't mind a new HQ or two. In addition, there should be another troop unit with more survivability. (3+ save.)

They're supposed to be pretty much the best 'human' troops, there really isn't an excuse for SOME of them not getting power armor.

On a side note, it's a massive pain trying to figure out what color scheme to go with. Scions have great models but they're extremely busy. Also having the trim on their breast plate wrap all the way around the back makes it impossible to have metallic trim not look funky.

Emberburn
Emberburn

You can do that although it's a bit cheesy.

SniperGod
SniperGod

is the banner topper too much?
nah man, I dig it. In fact it helps id him as an inquisitor and not just a random termie. Just slap some ]I['s on there when you paint him

SniperWish
SniperWish

Hm yes, Wraith dudes but not the WK are a bit unnerving

eGremlin
eGremlin

I forget how pretty some the Eldar kits are sometimes. Thanks for reminding me

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I thought we had stopped this madness?

I AM TEMPESTUS SCIONANON

Booteefool
Booteefool

Would it look good at all to convert Primaris Aggressors into Terminators, so I can have a visually all Primaris army but still use Terminators?

Would a basic arm and head swap for storm bolter/Pfist be possible?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

the real temepstus scionanon doesnt captialise the start of his sentences

farquit
farquit

I
You disgusting human being. Read the novel. He wasn't empowered by Khorne. almost two decades later and fuckers like you are still spreading this misinformation.

I hope you all get nose cancer and get your own nose slits.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

only a fake tempestus scionananon would correct the real tempestus scionanan for arbitrary grammatical discrepancies.

likme
likme

you underestimate the absolute committal that the real tempestus scionanon has to not capitalizing the start of sentences, discrepancies are non existent for him

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Whoever the real one, he is still a lying bitch who make claims about novels that he didn't read.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

r/ing this image but with Scions

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Evilember
Evilember

that just not true nonscionanon

Firespawn
Firespawn

hah, classic misinformation you've learned well

WebTool
WebTool

The sword under the bolter is a bit much.
also clean up your mold lines

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

more like grown up with :^)

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Do you think this gives you power over me?

TechHater
TechHater

oh my

the vendettas will hit on 5+ if they move, to at least somewhat mitigate that, i would bring one officer of the fleet per vendatta (reroll 1's against 1 target / officer) for cheap.

gib the ig squads some dakka, autocannons being my personal weapon of choice ymmv
currently they dont do much except holding objectives

consider a priest for the bullgryn (or dont they work on bullgryn anymore? its been a while since i looked into that)

Alternatively replace everything with orks

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Hey guys.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The sword under the bolter is a bit much.
funny thing is it came that way

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

*die from laughing*

fuck, its super effective

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Do the Cuss-Toads have their own Codex now?

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Hi

Nojokur
Nojokur

moron namefag : Kais was empowered by Khorne the novel says so!

Reality : Kais wasn't empowered by Khorne. It was just the Tzeentchian Daemon Lord whispering his encouragement and driving Kais forward because Kais was the only T'au he can influence. There was no Khornate things in the novel except for the very last chapter where Kais is forced to fight a Khornate Greater Daemon as a final boss.

If you were near me, I would slap you silly.

Illusionz
Illusionz

So hypothetically, if Imperial guard were to get their own triple A-style First Person Shooter game, what iconic Warhammer 40,000 weapons should be included?
melta gun
make it gunner jurgen, the game

if you need anything else, you did it wrong

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

pretty sure they dont work
bullgryns don't get [REGIMENT] but they're still ASTRA MILITARUM INFANTRY

Booteefool
Booteefool

day fuq you say? I'll kill you

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

That it was, my fellow scionanon

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

morning

Spamalot
Spamalot

shit I meant *do* work

happy_sad
happy_sad

silly nonscionanon, i wasnt the one that talked to you about the book

surely you can distinguish me from my fellow scionanons

w8t4u
w8t4u

This video makes a Melta look like a good anti-horde weapon.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

implying Khorne wouldn't empower a Tau to help him fuck over Tzeentch
How pure you are.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

surely you can distinguish me from my fellow scionanons
given the average lifespan for tempestus scionanons
(1round of meltagunnery and then they are gunned down) i stopped distinguish

not worth the effort

Methnerd
Methnerd

I love this thing. Would it make a good count-as sentinel if I put some guardsmen in it? I saw the old models allowed it and it would look ace in an Elysian army.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

You've been spooked by the Eversor Temple

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

shit

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Emberburn
Emberburn

yes

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RavySnake
RavySnake

Oh hi, didn't see you there.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

does early warning override mean that you can fire both when the enemy drops down within 12" of your guy AND then after in your shooting phase?

I assume not.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How about this?

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Booteefool
Booteefool

”Yup, that’s me. I bet you’re wondering how I got strapped onto the front of this thing. You see, it all started on this one planet called Istvaan V...”

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

There's two versions. A constant fiery beam much like a laser cannon but with fire, as seen in Fire Warrior, or a purple superheated "wave" of pure heat with various degrees of spread, as seen in Space Marine.

In Fire Warrior the meltagun was the game's flamer, it was not very lore accurate. In Space Marine the meltagun was the game's shotgun, which was not very accurate either.

I personally prefer the purple wave to distinguish it from flamers and laser cannons.

In any case, melta needs a ton of lore work, as GW left it vague since the beginning. I think meltaguns should be assault weapons and fire a blast with the old flamer template, like if they were shotguns. Multimeltas should be assault weapons as well, instead of heavy, being "rapid fire" shotguns. Space Marine did it right in my oppinion, guns that fire a superheated wave.

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

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askme
askme

but newnameanon the original scionanon has been around these parts for years until the rapid expansion of his fanbase

Playboyize
Playboyize

implying the entire game and book was not the result of bad writing

TreeEater
TreeEater

Yep.

It is why it is simultaneously pretty busted and fairly overpriced, considering you have a fair chance of never getting a use out of it.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So can the "Nem'Yar Atoll" be pretty much wherever I want (solving the perennial "Why are there Tau fighting my Segmentum Obscurus army?" much better than the Jericho Reach thing did) or does it have a specific location that I'm just not seeing/getting?

Supergrass
Supergrass

He didn't. The whole novel was Tzeetchian. In fact, the Great Lord if Change begged Khorne for help when all other gods refused to help him. Khorne answered and turned him into a Bloodthister.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Atoll is north of the empire.

5mileys
5mileys

the Great Lord if Change begged Khorne for help when all other gods refused to help him. Khorne answered and turned him into a Bloodthister.

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iluvmen
iluvmen

What's the most fluff-appropriate ally for Scions?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I think I've tripled my filter list thanks to this thread.

Methshot
Methshot

Inquisition or Guard.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Sisters of Battle, they are childhood friends.
Men use carapacer armour and women use power armour.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Everyone change your name so this guy doesn’t see any posts.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Guard.

WebTool
WebTool

Almost completed stripping, repainting, and basing 2000 points worth of Sisters, giving me a complete army for the first time in a decade
Started picking up a few models for my next army (Talons of the Emperor) because they were on offer/OOP ebay deals.
Always wanted an admech army and now they have sweet rules and models, and after playing around with battlescribe I've put together a few lists I'd love to try
Also started an AoS slow grow
Persuaded an old friend to get back into the game, so now I want to get some terrain so we can play at home.

Help me user's, I've held my discipline for almost a year, don't let the plastic crack overtake me

StonedTime
StonedTime

SoB
Power Armor
kekeke

JunkTop
JunkTop

It's as I said. The Lord of Change was using four Chaos shrines each dedicated to one of the Dark Gods as power sources. Kais fucked with the ritual which caused the shrines to fuck with the Lord of Change.

First the Lord of Change transformed into a Great Unclean One, then a mesh mash of Slaanesh and Nurgle, and finally when Kais blew up all shrines except Khorne's the daemon asked for help from Khorne. Khorne answered and transformed him fully into a Bloodthirster.

The daemon tried to corrupted and torture Kais. It blasted him with its daemon aura which forced Kais to cry out "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD" and charge out of cover. The daemon took its time with the raging Kais, first cleaving his arm off. Kais managed with help of a friend to break free from the rage aura's influence. He grabbed his helmet that had a bolter round lodged in it and he threw it at the Khornate shrine. The bolter round blew up and the shrine was destroyed which resulted in the daemon being weakened. T'au suits descended from ceiling and blasted the daemon to ruins before saving Kais.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Not sure if missing a joke or this fucker is forgetting his basic lore again.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Guard or Inquisition. If you're playing something like the Alphic Hydras it would be Ultramarines.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Lasgun
Your Ak-47 analogue. Has a bayonet attachment
Long-las
Marksman Rifle, semi auto rooty tooty point and shooty
Las-pistol
Shitty pew pew but ammo recharges
Hellgun
Souped up lasgun, stronger with more ammo (pack-fed)
Grenade Launcher
Frag out, alt fire launches timed charges that bounce
Stubber
Chunky machine gun
autogun
3 round burst assault rifle
Flamer
It wurfs flammen. Burning promethium sticks to enemies and covers ground
Melta
Short range cone high damage, hold to melt, burns through ammo like a fiend.
Plasma
Spits balls of plasma with a slightly degrading arc, can be charged up for AOE and more damage but builds heat which can cook off and burn you
Chain sword
Like the doom chainsaw but cooler because it's a sword. No ammo but can overheat and jam. Can be paired with pistol
Bolt pistol
Fires a fuckhueg explosive shell, magnum gun for magnum dong
Hell-pistol
Souped up laspistol, no ammo limit but can overheat
Autopistol
Pisses bullets like a horse, about as good a shot as a horse too
Shotgun
Good old fashioned 8-12 round double barrel
Plasma pistol
Fires faster than the plasma gun but can't be charged, shorter dropoff
Needle Rifle
Precision anti infantry sniper rifle
Bolter
Bolt pistol but full auto, basically a rapid fire grenade launcher. Should function exactly like it did in Fire Warrior, the only game to ever get Bolters right
Frag grenades
Go boom
Krak Grenades
Smaller boom, higher damage
Melta Bombs
Satchel Charges that melt anything near them
Snare Mines
Claymores

5mileys
5mileys

Mortis Dread with two Missile Launchers and the Cyclone Missile Launcher

It'll look pretty funny.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

any suggestions on making red brick / cobblestone bases?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Two missile launchers (50 pts) + Cyclone missile launcher (50 pts) = 4 x S8 AP-2 1D6
Two twin lascannons (100 pts) = 4x S9 AP-3 1D6

Emberfire
Emberfire

Imo Bolters were done pretty well in the Space Marine TPS

Evilember
Evilember

This was actually the cause of my first and only game where i felt really fucking guilty

Final match of the north west open, i took my bullgryn scion list to have some fun and was currently 1-3 after losing a match because i forgot what mission we were doing and went for the wrong objectives, resulting in a primay mission loss, which lost me the overall game where i was winning, which put me in a slightly salty mood for the final game

final match was against someone who brought a stormsurge with EWO, on turn 2 i deepstruck alot of my scions within 12" of him, forgetting about EWO at that time, he suddenly said i can finish my movement phase but he's going to go talk to the TO

before he did that and came back i remembered that he had EWO and he was going to nuke a good portion of my scions, as I had not finished my movement phase i pulled them and deepstruck elsewhere, explaining to him what i had done

He said that was fine but looked a little crushed, turned out he was asking for the TO to rule on EWO, which actually lets you have a full shooting phase with all your weapons, multiple times against different units that deepstrike, which would have guarenteed that he would have wiped out every scion unit and thier characters

I won that game but even though he didnt mind that I could change my mind on the deepstrikes it really bugged me for months after that, so now I never pull my units if i forgot the enemies list

RavySnake
RavySnake

Greenstuff Rollers work really well for stuff like this.

Base dark brown / heavy drybrush dark red / light drybrush lighter brick-red color.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Nice work user.
I’d definitely play a game like this.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Cut up plasticard, glue to base, use a hobby knife to round up the edges and rough up the surface.

No, I haven't done a few dozen bases that way, that would be stupid. Time consuming, boring stupid...

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Fluffrape intensifies

whereismyname
whereismyname

More Scions, clearly.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Are there any 40k horror books? I'm planning on writing a Lovecraftian like story for the Black Library thing and I'd at least like to see the shit that the regular BL retards pump out. I've only read the first two Gaunt's Ghosts novels and they were absolute trash.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

pic related of the match at turn 1, now with an actual pic

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

That game got a lot of stuff wrong, but overall I still think it was the best 40k > action game conversion.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

go to bed
wake up to this
What the hell guys? I thought we were better than namefagging
Anywho, I’ve made my rough draft at a tau list and was wondering if I could get some feedback. Thanks in advance!

Sept Myd’udes (Bor’kan rules)
brigade detachment: 9CP, 1665 points
HQ
enforcer commander [4 fusion blasters, precision of the hunter] (160 points)
2 fireblades (84)
Troops
6 units of 6 fire warriors [pulse rifle] (252)
Elites
2 ghostkeels [cyclic raker, 2 burst cannons, targeting system, target lock] (374)
2 units of 3 stealth suits (168)
Fast Attack
3 units of 8 pathfinders [3 ion rifles] (255)
Heavy support
2 hammerheads [ion cannon, drones] (318)
3 sniper drones (54)

Brigade detachment: 3CP, 328 points
HQ
enforcer commander [4 fusion blasters, engram relic] (160 points)
fireblade (42)
Troops
3 units of 6 fire warriors [pulse rifles] (126)

Could drop a commander and switch things up, if I need to take some more heavy guns maybe a broadside or two? I dunno a lot about tau yet, only that I’m not taking a riptide, period. Any ideas?

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askme
askme

Pisses bullets like a horse
Horses piss bullets?

Methshot
Methshot

tempestus scionanoning isn't namefagging

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's the next best thing we have and the combat is fun as fuck, the melee feels just right (if a bit monotonous)

SniperGod
SniperGod

what does ewo do again? did you make an illegal move?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Ironic namefagging is still namefagging.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Not giving your fusion commanders the coldstar suit
20" movement with 20" advance is the best thing since sliced butter for fusion commanders.

WebTool
WebTool

Reading this book, wow its great.

Magnus is probably the best 40k character out there.

#MagnusDidNothingWrong

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RumChicken
RumChicken

EWO lets you shoot dudes deepstriking within 12"

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

dark imperium box primaris + 2 units of LC vanguard vets + aggressors + sniper scouts + shrike (1500pts)

how competitive is this?

TechHater
TechHater

weeb bookmark
shit taste in primarch
pottery

eGremlin
eGremlin

He didn't wear a back protector.

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

not competitive at all
it's fluffy though

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Not at all.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

The best part of that book was picture related

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Don't forget you can have a combination of 6 weapons and support systems on it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

This only applies if you have severe autism

whereismyname
whereismyname

Perturabo's own book sucked. Just showed what a raging manchild he was.

Illusionz
Illusionz

No, it applies if you read the rules as they are extremely clearly written, with 0 room for interpretation.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Russ would be the kind of guy to grab his brothers' nipple horns while wrestling.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Got a game of 40k on Thursday
i don't even like playing 40K anymore

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Booteefool
Booteefool

As I said, if you have severe autism

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

what fixes should be made?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Please do break it down for me in non autistic terms. I would love to see how you manage to twist it around to fit your rules lawyering.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

as the other me said in , however the wording (at least in the index) was that it can shoot all of its weapons at each unit that deepstruck within 12" of it, which means every single weapon it had got to shoot 9 times as i had 9 deepstriking units

I basically pulled a near- tony grippando move, it wasnt illegal but it was really shitty on my part

happy_sad
happy_sad

Shift one troop down and have two brigades user.

As for beating it....nurgle daemon combo with turn one charge using pox riders.

5mileys
5mileys

Remove the primaris, add Dreadnoughts, Devastators, more Scouts.

takes2long
takes2long

6 weapons

i think you mean 2000 points of weapons scionanon

swap 1 weapon for 2
swap those 2 for 4
swap those for 8
etc etc

Bidwell
Bidwell

Dreadnoughts, Devastators, more Scouts.

Are the intercessors really that bad? they look nice on paper.

massdebater
massdebater

spending more money on a thing that dies by the bottom of turn 1
You manta strike, kill some stuff that needs killing, and then it gets KO’d by your opponent, unless you drop killings for an invuln. They’re only durable with JSJ and 4++, and I’m not playing t’au. In fact it’s probably better to not put the relic and WT on them, or at least the relic.

Inmate
Inmate

That wimpy gun can one shot a space marine if aimed right........

likme
likme

Intersessors are fine.
Helblasters are perfect.

This is not the best place for sound advice.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Replace one MP for 2
Replace one MP for 2
Continue until you have a model worth 1k pts
Change all MPs for fusions
???
Autism.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

So don't play.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

So is 240 the official cost of this thing?

Is it 240 base or 240 with a multi-melta?

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Well at least half of these are objectively correct I guess

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

intercessors are better than tacticals

but scouts are jut way way WAY better than both of them

cheaper, similar firepower, similar health in terms of relative cost, but can also infiltrate deploy which is amazing against objectives and deepstrikers

TreeEater
TreeEater

Going autist waacfag raw here.. by using the word "AND" you can artistically claim that each of the items listed (burst cannon, missile pod) can be replaced by two items EACH, and then you can also have two additional items from ranged weapons AND support systems EACH.

Skullbone
Skullbone

240 with multimelta, 213? base

WebTool
WebTool

Your dudes > Canon Dude
This is fun because I literally play Nazi tau lost during the 4th sphere.
They realized warp taint in their auxiliaries and gassed them by forcing slave labor in volcanic mines

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Our new flgs one up for any argument is, "Yeah but have you tried helblasters?"

StonedTime
StonedTime

its seriously over 200 pts? fantastic to see its unplayable right out of the box

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Names were a mistake.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

daily reminder that Surestrike did NOTHING WRONG

eGremlin
eGremlin

is there an advantage for going small units with scouts or should I run blobs ?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

So should taking a unit of Fallen invalidate your units chapter tactics? Can you have separate chapter tactics, regimental doctrines, ect, for different detachments?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Never blobs, 3 min units with maybe cloaks to utterly cuck DSers and that’s really it. They don’t do much damage but can take a good amount of hits, and make for serious blockage.

Also don’t reply to namefags.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Inceptors and Hellblasters are good.

Ancient has his moments.

Illusionz
Illusionz

generally speaking you want as minmimum amount of troops as possible to just maximise you fire power

so a batallion would be 3 units of 5 scouts, maybe with heavy bolter and stormbolter, generally not with cloaks, for example

I do have a list where i run one of my scout units as 9 man which is my first drop, which secures me the maximum amount of area in the midfield early on without also giving away 1 point for itc missions

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

No, but here is the plot summary.

Lieutenant Constapatia, played by Charleze Theron, is the captain of an Imperial Shadowsword and a sergeant in the Imperial Adepta Military. Can she keep her crew together and bane a titan after having rear ended a rhino waiting at a stop light? Only by pulling on the cable with a handle and a loop that does something can she save the Empirium and her family.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

inceptors
good
They’re awful my guy, aggressors are good but inceptors are hot trash. DA and maybe SA are the only good way to run them and even then you’re paying a hefty chunk of change for plasma that hellblasters do better or massed fire that aggressors do better. Like the models, but just take a Razorback or Morris dread.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

pertardo is an autist in a book

That's...that's the character user. That's why everyone here relates to him and likes him.

massdebater
massdebater

it's like 2 guys at this point user. you should have seen it when there were like 8 of them

Inmate
Inmate

What would be a good way to have a fluffy heretek Admech/Necron army?

Would a eccentric Necron Overlord tolerate some Admech who showed up in his part of the galaxy and started working for them, because their Techpriest Dominus had figured out the truth about the Mars Dragon,
and started worshipping the Necron as the chosen children of the Omnissiah?

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Why does everyone like 8e?

Every army feels the same, and every match feels the same, and I'm just... tired. No other wargame I play makes me feel like this.

Am I the only one? I'd honestly prefer going back to 7th.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I did, and I want it to stop. I liked it back when mods would punish this sort of shit, before the days of the eternal summer

It’s not even funny anymore, just annoying shitposting

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

every army feels the same
half the armies are still using the index
the other half are 90% power armor

really makes u think

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Emberburn
Emberburn

What a dick, touching his brothers horn and nip with the same hand non the less.

Emberfire
Emberfire

there is no one who would stop you

but if you're looking for someone to play and don't find someone you have your answer...

Evilember
Evilember

It is so retarded to read that passage, but as it stands, there is no real way to argue against it. You might as well try to argue FTGG shouldn't hit in 5+ due to Tau sept. You can, sure, but you are arguing for intent where you have 0 proof.

It is retarded, but then it isn't the first time GW as made completely retarded rules (Wyverns say hi)

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

half the armies are still using the index
the other half are 90% power armor

But when they release new codexes, they're 98% identical to the index.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

That's not what it says. It allows you to trade the preequipped weapons for 2 each.

I said 6 guns:
2 options by default
Can trade MP for 2 more
Can trade HOBC for 2 more
6 total, no autism required.

TechHater
TechHater

there are hereteks like stygies which just jerk off over xenos shit. not much of a stretch to have some really like the necron stuff because of all the skulls

eGremlin
eGremlin

shit, I think it's just a melta gun, so 223 base

FastChef
FastChef

Nah

Inceptors are solid. Especially since the price drop in CA. If you can get some use out of 6 Str 5 -1AP assault shots on a 2W T5 +3Sv platform with a 10inch movement, deep strike and fly for only 35 points a head, you're doing something wrong. The Plasma variant isn't really worth it though, they only thing they do better than assault bolters is trying to hurt vehicles and they're not even that great at that.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

it says you can replace both for 2 weapons, or you can replace one of them for 2 weapons

it doesnt say you can replace both for 4 weapons, if you can, then my original statement about 1 commander with 2000 points of weapons is correct

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It's not like 8th is the best edition or anything. It's about GW changing it's "minis first, game second" philosophy and actually giving a damn about the rules and quality of gameplay.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Because it's comparatively balanced, and the games are actually fun.

Sorry whatever stupid and/or broken gimmick your army had last edition is gone.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Whoops, my bad. 45 points, not 35.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Just for the sake of arguement. Can give some examples of meaningful difference, that existed in 7th but are no longer prese nt in 8th.

Booteefool
Booteefool

supposedly.

Not sure why, I guess they just thought a low needed to be expensive regardless if it was good

Spamalot
Spamalot

Is the Stormtalon Gunship or the Stormhawk Interceptor worth their points? Considering making an Air-Wing with my Fire Raptor.

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farquit
farquit

its 45 points a head
Assault Bolters are Assault 3

viagrandad
viagrandad

Yeah but I want to make hereteks that have completely denounced the dying Imperium, and get such a hardon over technology that they've decided to go full robot.

Would you play against that? Sure it breaks the lore, but by how much?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

WS chart, initiative in CC, all or nothing armor saves, overpowered shooting, deathstar units, vehicle damage charts are some

takes2long
takes2long

I'd prefer a hybrid of 5th and 8th.

Some of the abstraction in 8th is over the top
Some of the sameiness in the rules of 8th is over the top

8th's efforts at balancing, frequency of updates and 4 page core rules combined with 5th's variety, attempts at individual army flavour, line of sight/cover rules, initiative and templates would be my choice

askme
askme

And you get 2 bolters, so thats 6 shots

idontknow
idontknow

Soon(er)

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

what makes it even worse for me is that we now have to wait for the next CA and hope for a point-drop for them to be playable. i was seriously hoping they could be deployed alongside a crusader for a silly 1k list. granted they could if you sacrifice your carapace weapon

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Stormtalon is decent as a distraction unit, but will usually eat shit by turn 2. 2las + ac is how I run it.

Skullbone
Skullbone

eh it's heretek you ain't gotta explain shit. i it looks cool i dont care

Emberfire
Emberfire

And nothing of value was lost.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

the old rules may have been complex but at least they made sense.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Get out namefag

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

you think when we get an inquisitor/imperial agent codex, that there will be an option for upgraded acolytes? dont get me wrong, i like my cheap 8 point meat shields, but id also like my inquisitor to have some badass guys with him also

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Lots of value was lost.

Like armies that feel different. Or the movement phase mattering.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The firing was decent but not the impact of the shells. Granted it was against Orks, but Bolt shells essentially expload

whereismyname
whereismyname

You should anyway. What are you going to be doing with a Heavy Stubber that only hits on a 4+? Or a 14pt Meltagun that you don't need another of?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

i miss scatter kinda

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

8th edition is much better than 7th because of how much more balanced it feels to play.

In 7th you were at a distinct disadvantage for playing something like Guard. Now you at least have a chance to win playing a suboptimal faction.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

i was referring to the icarus/rocketpod on the crusader

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Vehicle gets a penetrating hit
Any result on the damage table essentially means it’s out for the rest of the game
Degrading stat-line >>>>>>> Damage table

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

WS chart
Unnecessary, especially given how it only served to fuck over meles armies.
initiative in CC
Shit, just like in WHFB, where the game actively became worse because it always decided who went first, with 0 player interactions. It was nice to see GW finally kill it.
All or nothing armor saves
Terrible design. New is much better.
Overpowered shooting
Compared to what, 8th?
deathstar units
Actual cancer, one tournaments had to go out of their way to dissuade people from being autistic deathstar faggots.
vehicle damage charts are some
This made vehicles turboshit. Vehicles are overall much better now, even if some of them should probably have had a few more wounds and an extra point of toughness. but it is expected to see a bit of poor balance after such a massive revamp.

MPmaster
MPmaster

None of that made armies feel different.

girlDog
girlDog

Yeah, but I miss flanks.
I think toughness values should vary according to flanks.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Making sense =/= balance

Sorry your immersion was broken in favor of people actually wanting to play the game.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I'll admit, so do I. I think my main beef with the old system was that some had terribly unreliable templates, and others was basically guaranteed to hit. It made it stupidly difficult to balance it properly, and is part of the reason why IG was so hilariously overpowered back then.

askme
askme

yeah, but what about damage charts?

all your S 6 and 7 chaff is just as effective as S4 and S5 shit cause of the oversimplification

Inmate
Inmate

/40kg/ please help me decide which army I should finish.

I currently have

fully assembled 1500-2k or so points of Tyranids
partially assembled 1500-2k or so points of Nurgle Daemons/Nurgle Chaos Mahreens
1k or so points of Admech

Mostly right now it's a toss up between Nids and Nurgle.

idontknow
idontknow

see and

hairygrape
hairygrape

Ugh, can't stand that asshole. Grew up playing against him off and on in the chicago battle bunker and he was a complete douche both on and off the field. Not sure whether it's pathetic or hilarious that he hasn't changed. Maybe both lol

Playboyize
Playboyize

Flanks
Introduce it to all units, ns you have a deal.

As long as all other units give 0 fucks about "the front of the unit", vehicles shouldn't either.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

ffs, your a nasty cunt.
scrape your dick on the counter?

Methnerd
Methnerd

admech

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Finish assembling yo nurgle stuff and then paint it.

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

already weak units need more weaknesses.

Yeah nah. 7th had faggots moving a few inches so they could get side armor shots. Fuck that.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

It disturbs me how ugly this thing is. Should've just been designed like a helicopter or something. The Interceptor at least looks decent.

If the weapons were built into it I imagine it would look better.

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SniperGod
SniperGod

How contrarian. Here's your (you) edgelord

SniperWish
SniperWish

Old damage chart was dumb as well. It punished having an uneven strength score, and made it far too easy to wound in 2+.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

nah, just tell your mom to watch the teeth next time

RumChicken
RumChicken

Good man

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Yes, armour facing was a good mechanic that was satisfying when you positioned front-facing armour against AV weaponry so it all bounced off.

It could be re-implemented like:
“Add +1 to your to-wound rolls if the rear of the vehicle if the closest facing to the attacking unit.”

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

you kiss your mother with that mouth?

FastChef
FastChef

It made it stupidly difficult to balance it properly
See my favourite part of the game has always been the random result tables and scatter, that no amount of balancing can account for, mitigating the power of the top netlists somewhat and giving both armies a chance at winning. Plus it made things more >>>fun

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Old rules that made no sense and actively detracted from the game, are not missed
That makes me an edgelord
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I also miss instant death.

whereismyname
whereismyname

paint your dudes. If you paint one of each unit, you'll be motivated to paint the rest.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I actually did just that. I cut the assault cannon turret down and mounted it into the body, and mounted the lascannons sticking out of those air inlet things. Looks way better.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Apparently he kisses your mother with it

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

bought Tyranids because I like that they're speedy and have lots of deep strike
bought Nurgle because I like how dead ard they are

Necrons come out
they have both movement shenanigans (that fucking move through units/terrain chapter tactics), AND dead ardness

I think I'm about to make yet another in a long line of terrible business decisions

help

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Should I put Nobz on 32mm bases?

Also how should I build them? Klaws? Big Choppas? Kombi Weapons?

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Hence my issue when we had armies like IG who practically removed the chance element, and all but ensured a single wyvern would earn back twice its cost every time it fired any anything remotely MEQ.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I don't even kiss your mother with my mouth, son.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

The big thing in 8th was nerfing templates. I think that was a bad move. It made half the vehicles and loadouts we have useless.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Could you show me a pic? Even if it's sloppy it might be a solution.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I'm glad, since you spend so much time choking on dick

5mileys
5mileys

I prefer multi wound. Instant death should be extremely rare, not something you pull out of your ass with S8/10.

I do feel like they should have kept some form of "double wounds caused to enemies with less than half the toughness of the strength of the attack".

takes2long
takes2long

It does when you don't provide any rationale. And even now you have, see - the very things you don't like are what I like. Who'da knew

likme
likme

do it

multiple small armies are fun

I don't miss templates as such but they were definitely nerfed too hard. Flamers, missile launchers and the like should be better against hordes than they are.

hairygrape
hairygrape

But then I could roll a 12 with my shokk attack gun aaaaand it's gone

I don't mind having my units fucked with if I can do the same to my opponents

Playboyize
Playboyize

I can't stop making Kroot.

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Waah I can't one shot a unit of MEQs anymore
Sorry Mr. 12 star general, but the rest of us prefers a game where you can't remove our army from the table turn 1.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Not mine but this is basically what I did

beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/fixing-storm-talon-conversion-guide/

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What's the deal with the big tail looking thing user?

From your posts about this it sounds like you repeatedly got tabled by a guard player in a previous edition lol

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

user pls don't tempt me

I have so many unpainted models already

;~;

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

What's the deal with the big tail looking thing user?
I guess it's a whip in the right hand.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

It's a Whip from the Hellstriders of Slaanesh box. He's going to be running with a couple units of hounds

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Ohhh I didn't connect it with the right hand. Cool :)

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The problem with facing is arguing over weather you are on the side/back. I'd rather something like

if your model had los to the rear of the vehicle, on a 6+ you do 1 mortal wound in addition to any normal damage

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

What army do you play?

Because my Marine, Tau and Dark Eldar armies got obliterated unless I hard cheesed with retarded formations. Unless you exclusively played against the worst of the worst IG players, that was the situation if you brought anything but the most optimal you could possibly muster.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Thats not really my problem with it. My problem is that it horribly unbalanced so many units. Most of the time when I see Heavy d6 i think it should be Heavy 2d6. Most of the template weapons should just be flat out doubled.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

kombi and choppas will never fail you in most situations

Downside: Expensive. You'll also need to kitbash or buy bitz if you give a shit about WYSIWYG. I hacked up a bunch of shootas and glued them on top of each other and slapped some rockets I had lying around to make it work.

Big choppas are points efficient for their damage

Downside: it's not a power klaw

Slugga and choppa are cheap and work nice. You can jump them behind your enemy and let them tard out, they will probably make their points back.

Downside:there isnt much basic nobs can do that a squad of 30 boyz can't do.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Why not just give it a different toughness value and bring back the old wound chart?

Also, why did they get rid of all the keywords if they were just going to use all the same rules?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Anyone who hates templates has no joy in their soul.

I was going to say "Anyone who says they hate templates is either a troll or a tourneyfag who had to deal with slow playing, spacing and spam shenanigans the rest of us weren't enough of a WAACfag to encounter" but honestly my revised version is more succinct and says about the same.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Glad you like it. Making a bunch of Kroots for my army, and alternatively for Kill Team coming back. Making a Scavver Kindred.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

We need more weapons that do
for each 5 models in the target unit add d6 shots.

We also need weapons that bleed damage into the next model.

Snarelure
Snarelure

old wound chart

No.

Skullbone
Skullbone

How do you rate power klaws? I'm not sold on how they look, Big Choppas look great in terms of aesthetics.

But at the same time, I kinda wanna run Deathskulls and I think klaws would work better on them.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

a vast majority of the time you can tell the good tau players apart from the bad ones solely by if they run kroot in their army.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

You're the only one.
Fuck multi wound models getting oneshot

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

And whats with rolling for damage?
It really bogs down gameplay.

Wounds should just be assigned, and more things should do more damage. Battlecannons shouldn't be d3, they should be D 3. Power Fists should be D 2. Lascannons and Missile Launchers should be D 4 for krak.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

How did you convert that steeds head?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

We need the vast majority of weapons to do a flat number of shots and flat damage. The swingyness of some weapons now is absolutely sickening to the highest degree.

Oh yes my gun can do one shot and maybe clip a few wounds off a tank, or 6 shots and rip a hole in a Titan's ass. Great turn to turn balance and reliability there guys.

girlDog
girlDog

Power Mauls, Assault Cannons, D 2. Grav Cannons D3 against 3+ D2 everything else. Grav Guns D2 against 3+ D1 against everything else.
Autocannons should be D3

5mileys
5mileys

balance
8th
Pick one

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Anyone who hates templates has no joy in their soul
this. a pure love of templates is what made me paint up an army of salamaders and pack as many flamers as possible in, back in 5th

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

we need to roll less dice in our dice rolling game
Also
consistency in a dice game

TreeEater
TreeEater

I cut everything with razor blades, very carefully.

But basically cut a Kroot hound head off, cut the seeker head off (making sure to leave the spikes atop the head intact) and then file it to fit. Then glue the jaw spike things on it and liquid green stuff.
Here's an older pic from right after I built it, and yes I filed the nips down

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'll take basic reading comprehension for 800, Alex.

Skullbone
Skullbone

8th is more balanced than 7th, where you auto-lose if you play Orks/Nids/CSM/Deldar.
Now only GKs auto-lose all their games.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/fixing-storm-talon-conversion-guide/
That's actually pretty good-looking. Thanks user.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I know that the encroachment of Superheavies into regular play was a problem, but in a friendly apocalpyse game there was nothing more satisfying than slapping down an apocalyptic blast or Hellstorm template.

eGremlin
eGremlin

How much firepower you need to blow Magnus away in the first turn?

Nojokur
Nojokur

One skyray with the right buffs

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How many wounds does it have?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

we need to roll less dice in our dice rolling game
Also
consistency in a dice game

Yes. Objectively yes. The things you said, but not sarcastic.

The game needs a certain balance of predictability, and number of shots-to hit-to wound-save-damage is over the line.

A gun with six random tiers of effectiveness before even rolling to hit is really, really bad game design.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

But what were the difference between armies? You say everything is the same now. How these things made it different?

Playboyize
Playboyize

i didn't really get many opportunities for apoc games back in 5th. I do remember that even in friendly, kinda uneven points wise, games, super heavies would melt. super heavies never really came into my lgs' meta really, the closest thing was shit like riptides back in 7th.
my fondest apoc memory is fielding 4 squads of DA devestators fully kitted out with 4 plasma cannons and just dropping shit tonnes of fire on some necron warriors. managed to only lost one to gets hot in the whole game too

Snarelure
Snarelure

Exactly

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I filed the nips down
No wonder it's an evolutionary dead-end.

Thanks for telling me, though.

DeathDog
DeathDog

T3 S3 spam player detected

takes2long
takes2long

So what is the difference GK were the only faction GW should have fixed, yet somehow, Kelly again made eldar OP, but nerfed GK.

likme
likme

It is basically the same chart. No idea what you are talking about.
The only difference is that there is no low or high cap

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

s10 ap-3 d3 power klaws can chew through lightly armored infantry better, as you'll wound on 2s for most infantry and troops in the game and even crack open lightly armored vehicles. So they will be a good way to consistently deal with anything that your boyz cant.

The big choppa is s7 ap-1 2d so your damage is more consistent, you don't have the -1 to hit and it's cheaper. so really it's a balanced choice.

Go with what you want bro. they are your orks, nobody can really argue one way or another.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

New Ork model?

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

D3 random damage is cancer and should be removed.
It adds nothing to the game but more dice roll

Booteefool
Booteefool

could be the exhaust on a new ork warbuggy

but it really could be anything. it doesnt look all that orky

Soft_member
Soft_member

I'll give you that one, the new rules heavily favour hordes because of how hard it is to really get a good amount of damage on them.

I mean, even a solid army will struggle to punch through 200 models. When templates and area damage is mostly just shit now, your best bet is getting a large quantity of shots, which... Is best done by building a horde army.

And then the circle is complete. You either go horde, or you don't bother.

I am so happy my meta is EliteIG of some kind, Grey Knights, Deathwing, and SuitTau. It is a lot more fun to have small expensive forces with a specialized role, rather than just masses of firepower hoping to outshoot the opponents.

viagrandad
viagrandad

nah. The old chart made vehicles invulnerable to half the guns in the game. I run vehicles and I got tired of being called a waacfag for armor spam in 7th.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Yeah dude. people like rolling dice. get with it.

takes2long
takes2long

IT'S A FLAMER
SISTERS OF BATTLE ARE COMING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Methshot
Methshot

clearly the exhaust of a new dreadnought. we havent had a new dread in forever, bout time marine players got something new

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Mfw my 7th edition casual army was a Torchstar army with 7 units of 3 man crisis suits wielding double flamers
It was shit because my main opponents had 3+ or even 2+ saves, but even the BA player with a Terminator heavy army started to sweat, when I fired 6 templates per unit into his terminator squads.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Random shots is the real cancer

StonedTime
StonedTime

bout time marine players got something new
this is a clear shitpost

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How would you fix it?

TechHater
TechHater

please be ork da boyz need it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Would you trade 2d6 shots for 6 shots?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Okay so the custodian bikes are beautiful models, but I just got some and holy shit, they actually decided to still use those retarded ball socket flight stands. What the hell am I mean to do to get these to stay on their bases during a game?

Supergrass
Supergrass

I think that is right unfortunately, it dpoesn't look orky especially with those rivets. It is most probably imperium Fires of Cyraxus

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

So... youz be sayin da boyz getting iz' gettin screwd again boss?, time for some rebellin

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Its gotta be ork or imperium with the rivets.

With the ork codex rumored in june from the same source that correctly called tau and necrons this month, I'm inclined to believe it's orks.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Yes, essentially, but it would also allow more variance from weapon to weapon. Like a Battle Cannon could do 6 while a Whirlwind could do 7 or something.

farquit
farquit

clearly. How can this be anything other than a new admech unit? We never get anything new.

w8t4u
w8t4u

maybe thats why orks get their codex last, because they are getting so many new models?

joy!

Bidwell
Bidwell

Happily

iluvmen
iluvmen

Ultra Satan, why do you hate orks so much?

Techpill
Techpill

orks is savin' the best fer last!

SniperWish
SniperWish

okay, how bout the old chart, but things were capped at 6+ unless something has a toughness 3 x higher

RavySnake
RavySnake

Is there any rule or faq that states that if you can't do a tactical objective you can discard it at that moment? ie. Kill a psyker against a tau army.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

i sure hope so boss, i didnt get any new units for me gorksmas either

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The top and bottom of the image shows two Bolter barrels that are cut off.

JunkTop
JunkTop

give the average as a static amount of shots or give things like d6 shots, 3 or 2 + d3
I understand the random shots is translated from blast templates but still i think its rough getting 2 shots from a 2d6 based on chance

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I really do hate this. Especially in an edition thats streamlined so much else, its such an awkward thing to add.

Random shots are alright, but I'd prefer if some of them were buff (3+d3 instead of d6, etc)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I'm fine with how it is. It's really the only way you can justify things having so many wounds.

The reason I hated 7th was because vehicles were in this weird place where killing them was either impossible or insanely easy. Randomly popping from explodes was the dumbest shit. Vehicles are in a good place right now.

Soft_member
Soft_member

vehicles are boring now.

you cant blow off guns or immobolize them. you cant shoot them in the sides or the butt.

they are boring.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

It is my army's duty to punish heretics such as you, so yes I would play

5mileys
5mileys

dies to mass melta/lass
every mediocre army can spam those
Honestly I didn’t see a change.
I’m basically playing the same army since 3rd nothing has change much for me. But then again my army is basically not a thing since 2nd

w8t4u
w8t4u

A nuclear flash

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It was rough when template scattered of target.

SniperGod
SniperGod

no rules or faq.

House rule it.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

wahhh I can't one shot them with melta or score a single penetrating hit and effectively remove your tank from the game

I'm happy that you're unhappy.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Are you still in Illinois?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I loved templates, I just hated how when I had them the game slowed to a crawl because of my opponents spacing, and my template weapons became worthless when I could only hit like 2 or 3 models due to spacing.

It just sucks that there isn't really a way to fix them.

askme
askme

just removing wound after wound isnt very fun

likme
likme

Yaaaaap. Sucks ass most of the time thanks to the political scene. The governor adds right now are awful.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I have to remove wounds? Why can I just no-scope one-shot tanks, man.

Evilember
Evilember

Where do you play? I mostly visit Acadia but I've been wanting to go to Geneva Commons and Grognards more. I'm a fan of political ads, they are so goofy.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

But you know what is fun? Not having my vehicle removed or immobilized, or stunned or otherwise fucked for the rest of the game because you rolled slightly higher than the armor value.

That's fun. For me.

I don't really care if its fun for you.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

namefags begone

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

scionanons are not namefags, you should know this by now

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

They are boy thots.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I just wish they had firing arcs, no pirouette in a single shooting phase.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Grognards, actually. Todd is a reul gud dewd. Working on getting back into 40k itself tho, haven't played a game since a bit after 8th dropped. I had been building up a super fluffy renegades and heretics army at the time in anticipation of it because of all the cool variety they had, and since 8th absolutely obliterated that I got super disillusioned.

I'd say sickening more than goofy, but to each their own lol

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Anybody got a link to the latest Black Legion book? I cant find it on the Megas.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Even back when there were vehicles 90% of the game was just units removing wounds from each other. Vehicles sucked so much ass after 5th that everybody avoided fielding them as much as possible - until super heavies became a thing, which had so many rules that prevented other effects that you pretty much did exactly the same with those as with other units : just remove 'wounds' in the form of hullpoints.

takes2long
takes2long

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SniperGod
SniperGod

I can't think of a counterargument so I'll just resort to ad hominem
Classic.

SniperWish
SniperWish

stop tryin to make me gay!

StonedTime
StonedTime

Have they ever actually had that?

eGremlin
eGremlin

implying i'm the other guy
didn't realize i needed an argument to tell a namefag to fuck off

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You haven't actually played against IG since 5th, have you?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Only seen the 'gaint invisible fearless blob of guardsmen with invulnerable saves, feel no pain, and rending attacks'

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

namefag
We are all user. Can't you read? It is in the name.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I can only imagine how that feels. For a while enforcers didn't even have the character keyword. Just lazy. Well if you ever feel like playing again we may randomly meet at Grognards. I will have the poorly painted Guard army with Catachan penal legion boys.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Lucky you. Parking lots were the bane of all fun in 6th and 7th edition.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Yup. We always houserule it so that any impossible objective is redrawn.

Being fucked because someone didn't bring a psyker/flyer/etc is really stupid.

5mileys
5mileys

I think they were fun. I just took 5 of the Wall of Mirrors formation and one shot them in their rear armour all day.

massdebater
massdebater

im not saying the old system was very fun either. it fucking sucked having my gorkanaut get blown up in a few lascannon hits

before the vehicle damage system was too punishing. it was too easy to blow off guns or take them out in a single hit.

but instead we got nothing. vehicles do nothing special. they are just dudes with lots of wounds. its boring.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Never mind, found them on the forth Mega.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Aight, I'll try to remember that lol. Planning on using the escalation league they're thinking of doing after adepticon to really get back into things. Not sure what I'll be bringing, but it'll probably be either Mechanicus, guard, or orks.

Firespawn
Firespawn

This is wrong though. Almost all of them degrade as they take damage.

FastChef
FastChef

degrading is boring. he can still fire all guns and move, just worse. it doesnt change the model in any way. i used to have to pick off guns or ground my skimmers because of hits.

degrading is boring.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

you're boring

Supergrass
Supergrass

vehicles degrade.

I'm not sure what else you want them to do that wouldn't unfairly fuck them compared to other units.

In the last edition everyone took mc's because they were vehicles with none of the downsides. For fucks sake, most vehicles couldn't even move without firing snapshots.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Neat! I'll try that too. Good way to be introduced to a shop.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I just like that toughness is finally properly represented. It was retarded that guns regularly had 7+ strength, while units with T6 or more were super rare, so you just wounded on a 2+ way too often.

Having vehicles represent the upper toughness values makes sense, and utilizes the full range.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

degrading has nothing to do with being a vehicle and everything to do with number of wounds.

dreadnoughts dont degrade. magnus does.

Methshot
Methshot

reading ADB black legion wank

Methnerd
Methnerd

degrading is boring
If you want to clap and cheer like a retard whenever something random happens, go play fucking yahtzee.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

GW should experiment more with the higher toughness values though. It only goes up to 8 (unless you include bunkers, which are only for the most special cases of autism) whilst strength goes a whole lot higher. Things always wound on a 6 now - just go wild with toughness values on big stuff for some more variety.

DeathDog
DeathDog

keyword:vehicle. For whatever reason vehicles are bad. Just put it in the trash.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

while we're at it, let's go back to having units that can only be hit on 6. And rerollable 2++ saves. I miss those.

5mileys
5mileys

Degrading is boring, like, watch my plasma dude blow up your vehicle in one hit LMAO, now that shit is funny and hilarious xd

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I always imagine them as being a bright flash and intense heat haze out the front of the gun. No fire except for nearby shit igniting.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

whilst strength goes a whole lot higher.
Rest in peace Railgun Broadsides. I will never know what you did to that GW employee, but you will forever be remembered for the time when you were good.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

i mean it might be good, maybe. right?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

all this bs
so glad i skipped 7th holy shit

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Railgun Broadsides
I God damn miss my strength 10 guns. They castrated them and left them on display for people to laugh at.

I am even more mad that the fluff said they managed to make a rifle version of the Railgun on the hammerhead, and that is why the broadside now wields it, because that means Tau FLUFFWISE decided to make an actively WORSE gun, for absolutely no reason.

Lunatick
Lunatick

18

MPmaster
MPmaster

The incident has been erased from all records in order to protect humanity's sanity.

iluvmen
iluvmen

You can move and shoot it without snapshots.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

anyone read the new eisenhorn book yet? i love the eisenhorn omnibus, but hated the ravenor books, is the new one worth picking up?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Aren't they still good in a unit of 3 with +1 to wound and such?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Eh, 8th sorta made them workable, but I still feel that Missiles are better.

likme
likme

Striking Scorpions any good? Seems like after deepstriking they'll just fail the charge roll then die. I only own five of them are they ever worth running at 5?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Looks pretty great! Reasonably balanced, strong and fluffy.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What are you thinking of killing with 5 striking scorpions?

Soft_member
Soft_member

The safe way to use deep-striking chargers is to use like 3 at a time and play the odds of at least one succeeding at the charge

askme
askme

15% off coupon on ebay boys

9am pacific to 7pm code: PSPRINGTIME

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idontknow
idontknow

Breachers look deceptively strong with the Farsight Sept rules... Am I being tricked here? Should I stop why I am doing?

I want to make a unit of Breachers rush up with a Devilfish, and unload a ton of insane firepower into some unsuspecting poor scrub.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

And then die the next turn?

Emberfire
Emberfire

No they're not. Genestealers and Warlocks are better.

TechHater
TechHater

I love breachers but desu they are kinda shit, no way to get them into combat without using the usual overcosted devilfish

viorla is the best sept for them, disembark, move, advance, fire at full bs rerolling wounds to those in cover, fire again with viorla stratagem

the problem is, viorla just makes firewarriors better than them, six tapping at 18", or being able to advance and still fire 2 shots at 18" is incredible

eGremlin
eGremlin

Well... With their shield drone they have a 5+ invul. That should help them at least somewhat in staying alive, right?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Not sure really, something Alpha Legion as I should be playing them today. I've only just started playing and have a few eldar things to use. I've got 8 Warp Spiders including their exarch that have been doing me good so I might try deepstriking both of them in and seeing how that works out.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Clearly a Stormcast Eternal war machine.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The idea is that there's not enough of the enemy left after the Breachers unload to return the favour, user

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

looks a bit like it might be part of a knight

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

fire ap2 weapons against t3 infantry
I don't think that will be common enough to warrant a shied drone that dies to 3 bolter shots

cum2soon
cum2soon

If you don't thin them out in one turn of shooting ya dun no my dude

takes2long
takes2long

Squat train.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Shield drone has a 5+. Not the unit.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Breechers get 5++ aswell.
Strike teams only get 6++

Skullbone
Skullbone

Should I put Nobz on 32mm bases?
yes, distinguish them from mere boys
Also how should I build them?
Blabla codex still coming.

i would choose some cheap ones
(power stabba or what that 3pt upgrade is- >goood)
some claws
ammo runts for cheapass these-die-first wounds

kombi-weapons are not good, too expensive and you want your nobs choppin anyway

Flameblow
Flameblow

Breechers get 5++ aswell.
How?

SniperGod
SniperGod

I ran a squad of 12, using Viorla. I didn't use a Devilfish, but gave enough better targets that they were left free to advance up the flank. IG hid a bunker unit behind a shield line, with his warlord.

When I suddenly got in 5" range to shoot, it was too late. 24 shots, S6 -2 AP, refilling to wound. I wiped the entire squad, HQ included.

Not expecting them to make that mistake again.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Pic related, wonder if anyone here knows what the hair on this model? Some anons helped me identify the mask as a Wych helm, but still unsure what the hair is from. Anyone got an idea? I've checked pretty much the whole eldar and dark eldar range but only from images of the sprues and might have easily over looked the helm with this hair.

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Read the book.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I guess if you burn like a bunch of cp and get through the bs4. Dont much think tau are good at the turn 1 pop your load kind of play. More interesting than a vanilla gunline definitely

eGremlin
eGremlin

It's in the book and has been like that at least since 8th

Guardian Field: Guardian Drones have a 5+
invulnerable save. Breacher Teams within 3" of a friendly Guardian Drone have a 5+ invulnerable save

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Would you prefer I read Dan Abnett jacking off over gutter scum and wymminz?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

SPOONFEED ME!!!
No.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You mean 7th, when they were first introduced.

They have literally always had this rule, for their entire existence.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Who would ever use AP2 weapons on a breacher team...? The invuln doesnt matter

Also, they can just kill the drone

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Sounds like a tactic that works against strangers once. If i played tau i'd play like that tho.

MPmaster
MPmaster

AP4/3 was more common in 7th. Not so much anymore.

Inmate
Inmate

it's from the wyches kit also

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Why can't I make a regular Dreadnought <Chapter> Adeptus Custodes to make it fit in my pure Custodes army?

TreeEater
TreeEater

thanks doc

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Oh, I thought it was how they used to work where the drone was part of the unit and was the only model with the save

That's not how it worked in 7th. Only the drone got it.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Because thats how the rules work.

Emberburn
Emberburn

more of an oval really

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

That's not how it worked in 7th. Only the drone got it.
I will never understand why some people will insist on rules they cannot remember, and also refuse to bother checking up on. Do you enjoy looking like an idiot?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Where does it say I can't make <Adeptus Custodes> from other books?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Seems totally pointless now.
If it was a 4+ invuln then it would matter

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

In the 40k faq

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Oh shit yea I fuckin see it now. I'm a twat. Thanks guys. Sick oval though.

massdebater
massdebater

Has anyone ever created models for fusion blades?

I want to make a farsight coldstar commander with fusion blades but I dont know where to begin with that conversion

Snarelure
Snarelure

You could check eBay for the alternate transparent Necron rods people make?

Get the red ones for Melta.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Do you like being wrong, user?

It really should, especially since it only matters for Breachers. Guess GW doesn't want them to be good.

Evilember
Evilember

Google-Image 'Tau Fusion Blades' and you'll see some ideas

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

warhammer-community.com/2018/03/20/preview-the-mephrit-dynasty-and-destroyersgw-homepage-post-2/

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why are all commanders XV8? Where are my XV10 commanders?

StonedTime
StonedTime

maybe get some transparant blue accrylic and cutting it into a blade shape and stick it on the end of a fusion blaster

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Regardless of what faction it is for, it is still the property of any Ork willing to convert it.

eGremlin
eGremlin

New thread when?

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

What, Riptide commanders?
They're strong enough without BS2+

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I just glued two fusion guns together and lodged a removable bluish transparent triangle in-between.

The removable part is not so relevant anymore, though. I had a party of 3, Farsight, Fusion blade commander, and a Crisis Bodyguard with the Onager Gauntlet, run around and smash things up together. It was fun.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Destroyer changes made it out of the beta

I can die happy now.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

You want one, you make one.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Not wanting the superior XV15
Pleb.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Sorry designers commentary not faq

RavySnake
RavySnake

shitty shadowsun

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

isn't that the exhaust pipe on that thing?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I thought that too. But why do a rumour engine on something that's already revealed. It does occur to me that usually the photos are oriented the same way as the appear on the mini so maybe another knight varient

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Commander in outdated stealth suit

TreeEater
TreeEater

maybe another knight varient
I think they already confirmed several variants.

Heck, apparently the assembly instructions refer to two head bits that don't appear on Forgebane sprues, so some assume that when a box release comes they'll be another sprue with secondary weapons

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Not having a superior "I don't need fancy new tech" grizzled old Tau veteran using his old XV15 instead of the new fancy XV25, that he believes is made for weaker womyn.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Commanders are already BS2+ tho

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

"Praise the Omnissiah!

As I invoke the sacred texts and raise the memory banks… there are 4 knight boxes coming.

The Amiger Warblade we’ve seen
There’s something I think called a “Helliger” <spelling mistake is possible>

There’s a Castellan
And another one that I think was called a Valiant which again may be the wrong name but is similar.

I think I saw they will rerelease Imperial Knight Renegade

And then you have a codex, datacards and I think dice, but don’t quote me on that last bit.

It’s a great time to be a Knight Senschal"

JunkTop
JunkTop

Is it worth bringing a librarian with a jet pack in an assault/alpha strike army?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

it looks exactly like the exhaust on the old one anyway
here's a pic from wip
veekyforums.com/thread/58590224/games
Second pic in the collage

Booteefool
Booteefool

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viagrandad
viagrandad

You're Omegon.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Squires carrying unused weapons/equipment of their Knight
Man, these things are going to be great

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Riptides, not Commanders

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Riptide Commander
R'varna Commander
Y'varha Commander (wouldn't matter because flamer but whatever)
N U T

Methnerd
Methnerd

I mean. If you can get null zone off and make the charge you can 1 shot Magnus/Morty with like 300 points worth of shit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So how do you think an Imperial Knight and two Armigers will do at 1000 point games ?

What about two Imperial Knights and four Armigers at 2000 points ?

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RumChicken
RumChicken

Yah saw that rumour a little while back. I'm.. sceptical but open minded about it. I have mixed feelings about mini knights but another chassis varient with different loadouts would be fun

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Armigers are overpriced shit

JunkTop
JunkTop

Holy shit that stratagem is beast. Like Daemonforge. Wish that kind of boost was available to more armies.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

kek

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I'm not big on 40k lore, why is this supposed to be funny?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Ok, so let’s sit down and talk about the Ghostkeel, the superlative tau suit. How do you guys think they should be equipped?
sept bork obviously
want to maximize on -2 to hit by staying in cover and keeping drones out of LOS
avoid melee but can fly so not a huge deal being in that 10-20” range
Now guns are a big choice and make for two different playstyles, both very viable
fusion collider is short ranged (24” with Bork) and can be unreliable, but does good damage when it’s going strong.
raker does less damage than fusion but has a lot safer range (36” Bork) and can threaten more than just vehicles.
also does potential self harm but you’re Tau, ML rerolls are bread and butter. Seriously if it doesn’t have this then you’re screwed to start with
for top guns, seems to be dependent on main guns. Fusion? Go blasters, you’re gonna be close anyway. Raker? Take burst cannons and hope you won’t need them too much
Systems are a huuuuge buff too, though which ones go on is tough since you’re capped at 2.
target lock is almost a must-take for the allowance of mobility, but shield generator is great too as with 4++ plus -2 to hit you’re one seriously tanky motherfucker.
This seems what’s best for fusion man, but dropping one of them (probably the shield?) for a targeting system if you’re taking the raker is a very smart move as you end up doing more damage than un-rerolling collider, from double the range.
So final loadouts are probably going to look like this;
GK with drones, collider, 2 blasters, generator, target lock (199pts)
snaps away 4 melta shots and is gonna be operating mostly within 18-8”
or
GK with drones, raker, 2 burst cannons, advanced targeting, target lock (187pts)
fires off 6 battle cannon shots plus 8 shorter range heavy bolter rounds and can fight best in the 36-15” zone
So, which one do you pick? I’m thinking they’re both solid AT and do good next to stealth and strike spam. Did I miss anything?

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Spamalot
Spamalot

I dont think 4 armigers in 2k game is worth it. You would be better off taking a cerastus castigator, 2 knights and 2 armigers for a 2k game.

Armigers are useful, but if they get tied up in a mob, they are going to be useless. you will want to use them as flankers and try to engage only if you think you can get the kill.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Awful. Armigers are straight downgraded dreads, and knights are overpriced and underperforming. If you want the same tune but better grab 3 guard superheavies and as many waddlenaughts as you can fit, it'll perform 10x as good

WebTool
WebTool

probably not bad actually. If the knights get a close combat specialist that can do mortal wounds they might be able to hold their own against primarch lists.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Speaking of Armigers, did anybody scan the book they're in or at least the pages with their stats and wargear cost ?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Every marine of the Alpha Legion claims to be alpharius. alpharius was supposedly killed, but every alpha legion astartes claims to be alpharius.

This is also referencing the Steven Crowder show, where he goes and sets up at a college campus to have discussions with college students and he takes a stance on a topic and the college students have to try and change his mind on the topic through civil debate and discussion.

So the joke is that its your job to try and convince the alpha legion marine that his isnt alpharius. Read some alpha legion lore, and you will see how stupid things can get.

there is even a story of an alpha legion marine infiltrating another alpha legion base so that he can screw with the sensors and all that so another alpha marine group can sneak by a different alpha legion group.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

the stats are on warhamemr community

as for costs, wintersSEO reviewed it and said with a top mounted melta gun, its 240 points, so without it we can assume its 223 points base

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I only found part of the status there, is the full thing in a download section or something ?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

veekyforums.com/thread/58618358/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58618358/games

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I've been fielding the second one and it's really a 10/10 unit.
They either chase it while it dances outside of stealth range or unload way too much fire to take it down.
All while it brutally murders everything within range

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Tomorrow, we’ll be looking at the bloodthirsty Novokh Dynasty, and their surprising skill in close combat…

Surprising

Who the hell would be surprised Necrons are good at melee? Especially now that initiative isn't a thing.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yeah I'm definitely going for the second option on my ghostkeels, I'd prefer to leave my AT to commanders because I know they can get the job done more reliably and thats definitely a role I cant afford to take gambles on around here

takes2long
takes2long

CIR+2xBC+SG+ATS
Enough -AP for it to hurt
Tanky enough with -2 to hit and 4+ invul to stand still when needed
Multishot gun because it has shit BS

massdebater
massdebater

what? its all in the unit focus

14" move, S6 T7, 12w 4a 3+ save 5++ invuln in shooting

thermal spear is a d3 shot 30" range meltagun, the chainsword is sx2 ap-3 3 damage

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Unit focus is a lot of text, I'm looking for an actual scan to show. Did anybody scan it ?

Lunatick
Lunatick

alot of text

fucking hell no it isnt

Did anybody scan it ?

the only person we know of who gave out some stats and therefore have the datasheet for it is winters, but he isnt going to fuck up his deal with GW, he already messed up once and got burned by them

Soft_member
Soft_member

There are better tank/plane hunters like fusion blade coldstars and JSJ commanders, so I dont like the idea of running it with fusion collider. Seems like a waste of points.

I use my ghostkeel as a midfield/flank protector that deploys in cover and rarely (if ever) moves. I run it with the CIR and burst cannons, with an ATS and a shield generator. That leaves with a T6 10 wound 3+/4++ deploying directly into cover and a -2 to get hit by anything except planes and bikes that get within 6" and stratagems that can heal it for D3 every turn.
It's the best speed bump in the Tau arsenal. This is how tau *blocks your path*

Methshot
Methshot

how did he fuck up? did they raid his house and stomp his minis in retribution?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

he did reviews of codexes and showed the rules, so naturally people took frame by frame pictures to get 80% of the codex out of him for free

GW basically told him if he does it again he wont get any pre-release stuff at the very least, so now he doesnt even open the books

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

makes sense, I actually like the guy and hope his channel stays relevant

viagrandad
viagrandad

I get really annoyed with the long intros and text he has in his batreps, but I overall enjoy watching/listening to them while doing something else.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Looks familiar.

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I see, I'll wait for someone else to scan it then. Thanks for the heads up.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Someone on my discord has his boxes and should get a german picture/scan for me in about 40 mins or so

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Thanks, guess I will just google translate the rules for it to be clear for my opponents.

takes2long
takes2long

...wont you have the rules anyway if you buy it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Proxy test games before purchase.

Emberburn
Emberburn

see
veekyforums.com/thread/58618358/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58618358/games

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