Is the Imperium more grimderp than grimdark?
Is the Imperium more grimderp than grimdark?
Owen Myers
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Matthew Lewis
I unironically think that if they changed the aesthetic and tone to that of an anime that it would be greatly improved.
Brody Lewis
Is this a waste of space?
Joshua Johnson
Depends on writer and interpretation.
Also depends on how seriously you take the idea of 'grimdark' in the first place. Edgelords who crave genuine TOTAL MIDKNIGHT DARKNESSE are probably going to find 40k in general too full of silly shit.
Daily reminder that Imperial catfolk exist and that they are literally anime catgirls who'll fuck anyone.
Brody Walker
>Daily reminder that Imperial catfolk exist and that they are literally anime catgirls who'll fuck anyone.
Wait, really? I thought that thats there just a race named felinids, and the name is only canon thing.
Nathan Gomez
This is why i prefer Fantasy in terms of story and AOS does not cunt
David Scott
If those edgelords want something grimdark play a Crossed campaign using FATAL
Tyler Rodriguez
Pretty much, yeah. That realization was a big part of what made me grow cold on the setting.
40k tells you that the word is crapsack because its the only way to survive and that justifies all of their shittiness and their actions. But the more you learn about the setting, the more obvious it becomes that the greatest enemy of the Imperium is the Imperium. There are 25 ways the IOM could be doing its job much, much better and tossing aside most of their common enemies like they were child's toys, but they don't do that because grimdark.
Their practices to combat chaos make them more exposed and prone to chaos cults than if they did nothing about the problem at all.
Their approach to technology means that they almost never innovate new solutions to their problems.
Their practices for psykers mean that their only available endgame of becoming a psyker master race literally cannot happen as a result of their own actions. GW eventually realized this, and dropped them a plot macguffian STC that can make up for their fucking idiocy and hax their way to win if they can find it, even though it doesn't make any sense for such an STC to exist in the first place.
The Imperium hates xenos for betraying humanity, even the xenos that didn't betray humanity and actually stuck with their alliances for 20000 years after the fall of the human supercivilization. Because when you are losing a war on all fronts, fuck having allies with advanced technology, right?
If you blew up the entire IOM upper levels of government and the Admech and let the whole thing dissolve into fractured human worlds with no coordination, the resulting human civilization to arise from the ashes would be stronger than the imperium, smarter than the imperium, better able to deal with threats and you would lose fewer worlds in the process during that period of turnoil than the IoM is doing now over time by rotting to death.
Cooper Brown
>Daily reminder that Imperial catfolk exist
yes
>they are literally anime catgirls who'll fuck anyone.
No
Caleb Ramirez
Whats worse is that the few times that someone does try to do something smart, the writers make it fail to work for no explicable reason and and you can just feel someone slowly turning to the camera with a smug expression on their face, saying "Of course that wouldn't work. Why should people be allowed to have nice things? Now get back into those trenches and pretend that military strategy never advanced beyond 1910."
Kevin Martin
Yes. It was never meant to be taken seriously or be viewed as "mature".
Carter Walker
>Daily reminder that Imperial catfolk exist and that they are literally anime catgirls who'll fuck anyone.
You poor, poor soul. Ignorance is bliss: youtube.com
Levi Reyes
But that's wrong
Ryder Hernandez
>40k tells you that the word is crapsack because its the only way to survive and that justifies all of their shittiness and their actions. But the more you learn about the setting, the more obvious it becomes that the greatest enemy of the Imperium is the Imperium.
Thats because the setting was originally satirical and darkly humorous. So yeah, you're absolutely right, it was never meant to be taken seriously.
>Their practices to combat chaos make them more exposed and prone to chaos cults than if they did nothing about the problem at all.
>Their approach to technology means that they almost never innovate new solutions to their problems.
Intentional, that's the point exactly.
>Their practices for psykers mean that their only available endgame of becoming a psyker master race literally cannot happen as a result of their own actions
Now, in the Imperiums defense, they have NO IDEA this was the Emperors endgame, because they've drifted so fucking far from what he intended
>The Imperium hates xenos for betraying humanity, even the xenos that didn't betray humanity
This is partially because they got fucked so hard during the AI war, and partially because the Emperor had human dominant ambitions. Yeah, humanity fucked it's diplomacy from beginning to end- they were bullies BEFORE the collapse, which is why everyone turned on them. And then came the Emperor, who had a very human dominant view, and basically wanted humanity to rule at the expense of everyone else. He was a Hawking tier cynic, and believed coexistence and cooperation would essentially be impossible.
Zachary Clark
Nope, 40k is at its best METAL as fuck.
Charles Lewis
Look inside yourself, you know it to be true!
Hunter Miller
>If you blew up the entire IOM upper levels of government and the Admech and let the whole thing dissolve into fractured human worlds with no coordination, the resulting human civilization to arise from the ashes would be stronger than the imperium, smarter than the imperium, better able to deal with threats and you would lose fewer worlds in the process during that period of turnoil than the IoM is doing now over time by rotting to death.
The problem of course would be the transition, the Imperium has no breathing room to do any sort of reconstruction, it's been in pure survival mode since the Heresy. Also, there's an inquisition faction that believes exactly this
>Recongregationism - The Recongregators believe that the Imperium, after long millennia of stagnation, has become decadent and corrupt. To remedy this, Recongregators believe that only through change can the Imperium hope to prosper, believing that the greatest threat that humanity faces is its lack of progress and terminal stagnation. Working quietly behind the scenes, the Recongregators seek to influence or engineer events that will lead to change and progress. It is a subtle game, and of all the major factions of the Inquisition, they are counted amongst the least visible, keeping to the shadows whilst others charge into the fray. They are most deeply opposed within the Inquisition by the Puritan Amalathians.
Landon Young
To be fair, 40k is one of the most anime things that isn't an anime
Hudson Bennett
I disagree, the Imperium was mostly stolen from 2000AD and Heavy Metal. It's tone and aesthetic has to stay gothic, we have got enough weebshit.
You are only correct about the Eldar , who are 80s Anime Sci-Fi, and the Tau, who are Mecha Anime.
Angel Sanders
Isn't Girlyman supposed to do something about this?
Jack Anderson
He's doing some things but there's a limit to what he can accomplish with everything on fire and the weight of the Imperial Machine pushing back thru sheer inertia - and the Inquisition.
Joshua Mitchell
I’m so happy that plastic sisters will come.
Easton Thomas
Tongue in cheek satire to balance out edginess
Thomas Garcia
Too bad some people stick those tongues in electric sockets