MTGA dropped the NDA today. It seems there is basically zero hype or excitement over the title and the only thing available is constructed.
The face of MTGA is this ugly woman Do you think the lack of attractive women in arena and the latest sets is going to screw MTGA's chances of any fans? Wasn't this supposed to save MTG and yet it's total shit with low viewers and ugly people art 99% of fanbase doesn't like?
24 hours status update for people expecting MTGA to save magic revenue and playerbase. Max views on youtube video about MTGA is 3.2k views at this moment in time.
random youtuber, 100 views, says it sucks ass and needs lots of work. Notice the landing page for MTGA is ugly woman. 90% of playerbase is male yet they are leading their art with ugly characters on purpose.
Nathaniel Martin
I'm still angry they've killed Duels for this, and I hadn't even spent money on the game
nobody gives a fuck about attractive woman, except construction workers and edgy poltards who are 18 year olds like you.
Matthew Cook
duels was a shit format due to the arbitrarily restricted card pool. I believe Arena is also being developed by their in-house team rather than a third party, which is the most business sense reason to kill the old game.
Joseph Gomez
They should have at least waited until Arena was much further into development before killing Duels. They used to have one product that was even pretending to compete with Hearthstone. Now they have none.
James Davis
it's shit. Wizards is trying everything they can to get people into standard except for designing a fun, interesting standard format. Until its good again, nobody is going to buy packs or care about standard (which is the constructed format that makes them the most money)
Jonathan Adams
>Wizards is trying everything they can to get people into standard
I was about to disagree with you, then I remembered that the new brawl format is also limited to standard only.
>No interesting format >No anime waifus Wizards this is not how you digital product, it's gonna flop. You either need to make the gameplay super good or get on the waifu train for free NEETbux.
Jose Price
I think it's going to fail because it focused on nu-mtg standard. Ugly angry minority women on every piece of art don't sell people into an already awful setting. The design team basically just picks a random brown society and makes the plane entirely off them now.
Hunter Fisher
I signed up for arena but never got an invite. So my interest is nearly dead now.
Joshua Turner
EVERYONE gives a shit about attractive women you fucking retard.
Sex permeates every cell of our bodies because reproduction is the primary purpose of our existence.
You can't reproduce without eggs. Those are found only in young women. That's why ALL healthy guys just want to hump young women all day.
And that's why attractive young women NEED to appear on our magic cards in order for the game to be able to compete with actual sex.
People could ignore the lack of tits were Arena good but it fucking sucks. The UI is ugly, the summon animations are ugly and needless, the cards are ugly, the card acquisition pace is REALLY bad to the point where Hearthstone looks like philanthropy. I don't want to touch this until it gets a complete makeover. Not even tits can save this shit.
Jordan Gutierrez
Man, you got issues.
Brandon Wood
art like this doesn't sell. Ugly angry brown woman in a full plate mail with no boobs does though. Keep telling yourself that.
Saw they were making rules for a new format. Out of curiosity I decided to check it out. Got to the part where they explain it is commander with standard card restrictions. Literally the first fucking sentence. Said fuck standard and closed tab.
Around where I live every store's play groups, five in total, are all excited for new set. This could just be that it is a commander focused set and commander is the most popular format where I live.
I did. Notice their new brawl format has gotten almost no one to care about it. Which is fine standard sucks anyways.
I don't play MtG but it's fun lurking in MtG threads these days
Ian Martin
MTG must sacrifice sales, marketing, etc to portray ugly characters. I'm waiting for a representative of USA sizes in cards. I want 50% to obese. That sells.
Even if you look at products or games that black people generally have high attachment to they don't feature nothing but angry brown women. If anything the brown women in such games have soft features and aren't looking angry in every fucking picture.
With MTG you just know right away it was some SJW bullshit and not organic as well.
You totally disproved the entire theory of natural selection and evolutionary psychology with that brilliant post.
Charles Darwin BTFO.
Benjamin Wilson
It's just obvious from MTG. They are shoehorning all design around politics while saying it increases sales. Then saying they are proud of the politics even if the fanbase doesn't like it.
They aren't trying to make a game anymore. It's not their goal. This shift in goals from making a game to SJW is shown in designer talent, employee talent, art, etc.
In a non-competitive market this could be ignored but increasingly digital games are owning their market of players. Their digital offering is now failing when it was supposed to be their savior and a huge reason is it features the latest sets and arts which are terrible.
Hunter Wilson
If people want nothing but identity reflection in media why did MTG sell so well without half the card art being obese? What about pencil thin men in art?
How did MTG even have a fanbase originally if it didn't reflect the players in the art?
Bentley Foster
>THE GAME IS FILLED WITH UGLY WOMEN AND MINORITIES REEEEEEEEE THIS IS KILLING IT >oh also the gameplay sucks and the visuals are boring >BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT WHAT'S KILLING IT, IT'S DEFINITELY THE LACK OF TITS REEEEEEEEEE
Kayden Lewis
go on /v/ or Veeky Forums catalog and note the ugly brown women art posted vs attractive art. Which sells?
If this product had ravnica block it would have 5x more buzz. No one likes standard because MTG went full SJW. This is reflected in the art, plane choice, and in design of cards.
Luis Cooper
I mean, clearly "Man, you got some issues" is less an argument and more a comment on you're seemingly warped view of the world in which an online card game not opening with art of a sexualizd woman justifies some autistic meltdown
Then I read about some cuck on reddit who got his gf to play by getting the mind vs might duel decks. I got the duel decks and it turned out my gf also wanted to play if she could have the deck with the blonde hottie.
Men like pretty women. Women like pretty women. Why doesn't wotc like pretty women??
The absolute impossibility to build the deck you want without buying a billion boosters is gonna screw MTGA's chances of any fans. Not even whales are that retarded.
Xavier Jones
No, women love playing ugly characters. Mercy and DVA have no popularity. Celebrity women are all ugly and angry.
>If the game doesn't have hot women, it will fail.
Literally all of gaming history disagrees with you. You see any hot chicks in Mancala? Chess? Go?
Good game design is worth far more than hot chicks in the art.
Bentley Mitchell
If the game doesn't have feminine women because of political decisions being all they think about it's a problem. When this applies company wide to employee talent it's a problem.
Liam Smith
I am huge Vorthos EDH faggot. I picked up two intro decks in 2012 for me and my little brother in a toy store when i was 15, because we liked the art of the cards. Until this day, I only play with cards who are not ugly (and only have modern border, please dont kill me), and because of EDH, thats not really a issue. Samut, the creature and the planeswalker, would be excellent in some of my decks. But I really cant look at that art.
Sorry for blogposting.
Lincoln Nguyen
>People could ignore the lack of tits were Arena good but it fucking sucks. This is the crux of the issue. When cards are great the art can be meh, When cards are meh the art must be great. If the cards are meh and the art is shit why are you playing this shit instead of any of the other 90 online TCG's avaliable?
Andrew Walker
what's not appealing about samut?
She is so beautiful and deep. The fantasy evocation of the angry look on her face and generic clothing / lore because it was entirely about SJW design and not interesting design is fascinating.
The fact she is only in the game to convey the WOTC political positions is the best part. She was made to be a black and angry woman before any other aspect.
She is basically the personification of liberal hatred towards their playerbase in a card. The design schema was like, we need an angry black woman who hates our playerbase manifested into a card we will sell to them
Ayden Perry
Being an idiot satirically is still being an idiot.
Gavin Ross
Implying they didn't turn the straight ass spiky Vizier into the curvaceous babe Queen for mass appeal.
Chase Cooper
it's also one more proof that SJWs are the real racists.
Dylan Scott
>MTG blog posts endlessly about they are designing everything for political reasons >MTG self-congratulates constantly on the changes >retards defending them ignore what WOTC says themselves about why they are doing things
Parker Price
what political ideology does WOTC have? I can't tell if they are republican or tumblr left, can someone help? ANy hints?
It's amazing that most companies have at least somewhat subdued politics but with WOTC it's pretty much a neon sign they flash at a playerbase containing a lot of people not tumblr left.
Jackson Mitchell
Weird. My gf just found a d'va jacket that she liked but didn't wanna buy it because she doesn't play. It's weird how attractive Overwatch is to girls. I've never played a game where I find a girl in one in every ten or twenty matches. Never. Absolutely nuts.
Isaac Carter
I dunno. Maybe the friendly socially attractive girls in the game?
for some reason an obese ugly angry looking brown woman doesn't appeal to people? Wonder why people don't latch onto angry looking faces or ugly fat people.
Jaxson Williams
Why was anyone hype about it in the first place? We already have MTGO, which does everything we need it to and without ridiculous flair. How can you be excited for turns to last 2 to 20 times longer because of unnecessary animations like Hearthstone has?
Everyone with MTGO accounts gets a shaft because now their collection that they had to pay real money for is in danger... actually this one sounds fine, screw economists.
If it were free I'd be happy to play it, but it's monetized all the same.
Colton Nguyen
WotC is in Seattle and 90% of their staff is useless kids from Portland-Vancouver community college gender studies programs because those are the only unemployable little shits that are willing to take WotC's shit wages just so they can insert their cult politics on any media.
Kayden Diaz
>white libtard leftist in a coastal bubble We need to put in angry looking black women that scare children in to the game. This will make people like black people and we will do a lot of social good.
>Jap game design Oh yeah put in some cool filipino girl with big fat tits and an island theme with a cute attractive and socially friendly demeanor.
Isaiah Wright
Eternal already exists and the digital version of Epic is in alpha. No reason to play this shit.
Christian Cruz
No one was hyped for it. People were hopeful. WotC has released Duels multiple times before and it was bad each time (but sometimes not horrendous). MTGA is supposed to be a better version of Duels. Also, it is free.
William Rodriguez
I wish we had statistical analysis on how angry the brown and black women look in MTG art vs white characters. It would be amazing to show how fucking racist the SJWs are.
Asher Evans
Wouldn't be bad if they fixed the pose, armor, weapons, and hair. Especially the pose. Jesus.
At least they didn't give her yogurt commercial Natural, though.
It's okay. It's just a shittier version of MTGO, but you can grind for packs. I played quite a lot during the beta, I'm not sure how they're changing the economy but there's a few things: - You can't really do anything with cards you don't need or want. Sometimes you'll get some rare or mythic rare that you're honestly never going to use, but it's just going to sit there. There's a mechanic where getting more than 4 of one card gives you progress to something, but with rares you're rarely going to have that. So that can feel bad. -Ixalan block constructed is extremely fucking boring -The ranked system is really annoying because you have to do daily quests with a shitty deck against people at high ranking playing with their good deck - It's great that you can actually choose to get specific mythic rares/rares with the wildcard system, but it's very easy to be afraid that you'll waste it on the wrong cards - It's very fucking annoying to play with Adanto Vanguard on the field
Brandon Bennett
Signed up in September, still don't have a code. Maybe if I hadn't got shafted I'd be even mildly excited about the product.
Ian Collins
Same deal here, but to be honest I can wait until they put in draft mode.
Luke Evans
the stuff you're saying is true but it ignores the fact that the gameplay is getting worse and worse at the same time. Just look at the bannings last year. Wotc is doing a terrible job at making the game balanced and interesting.
Having attractive characters (male or female) does a ton for a game even if it isn't stated outright. Even if it is virtual, attractive characters do a ton more for a game than what you ugly sjw dykes think.
Definitions of attractive can vary from person to person, but what can be agreed upon by most people is that the art in the OP's pic is not attractive, and mtg art has been showcasing ugly man-ish dykes for their art unlike in the past. There is a reason why steve argyle is pretty much no longer allowed to draw art of attractive women
Hey, Huatli isn't super hot or anything, but she's not Samut at least.
Joseph Ward
That still won't sell cards. Newer studies shiw that while sex sells, sex only sells stuff related to sex or already sexy stuff.
Putting hot chicks in card games doesn't instantly increases sales if the main focus of the product, the game itself, is subpar
William Gutierrez
While true, intentionally putting unattractive humans on cards will always be only harmful.
Angel Murphy
Just achieved Bronze 1 tier or whatever that means. Daily awards (singles) stop after 30 wins. At this moment I find RG Dinos the best starter deck, after minor adjustments. Forerunner of the Empire with Needletooth Raptor counters like 90% of the meta right now. Most people are playing pretty bad, though. I predict MonoR will eventually be the best deck, since UB control is so soft to it and there's no Whirler Virtuoso. Especially with Ferocidon and Ruins being legal.
Aiden Walker
IDK, I'm looking through newer sets and it's still pretty much a march of dimes.
Samuel James
Please have sex.
Levi Murphy
You offerin, hun?
Aaron Rivera
what sample size was the study?
Was it sexy women vs attractive women? What controls? did you read the discussion in the study?
News headlines about studies are almost always sensational.
Blake Diaz
If it will cure you of your delusion, sure.
Ethan Moore
I just wanted a better UI. Playing anything in mtgo makes me feel like I'm using a cataloguing program that was juryrigged to kind of play mtg
Josiah Scott
the dinosaur is more attractive.
Wyatt Jones
Your commitment to your truth that these are solid sixes, maybe sevens at best, is admirable.
Jason Smith
>6s or 7s
That's far too generous.
Brody Diaz
>ITT: /v/ermin complaining about a game they don't play
Jackson Walker
What's worse is there are genuinelly attractive native-american women still alive and kicking today. But SJW mentality, like the racist messiah complex cult it is, says you can't be "ethnic" and "conventionally attractive".
James Williams
The best selling core set was the one with Chandra looking pretty as the key art. Of course sex doesn't sell...
Leo Martin
I'm honestly not seeing it. The Nerd Culture War dudes make it sound like the art's full of BEAUTIFUL AT ANY SIZE genderfluid girls, but basically everything I'm seeing is pretty well this side of "plain". Maybe my sensors aren't calibrated right, since I can't recall ever getting thirsty looking at Magic art, unless you count the times the GOAT artists were clearly on their A-Game.
The /v/irgins in this thread have nothing to complain about, so they've decided to invent a problem that doesn't exist
Carter Myers
>people arguing it's not SJW when the developers nonstop post about SJW stuff Yeah, it just happens to be "reddit epic lulz dinosaurs" and endless ugly minority women because of an accident. We are just seeing things. Like the endless posts by developers and "muh black designed planeswalker" that is a generic angry black woman are not real things.
It's amazing that all the sudden the people going "yasss girl slay" to the tranny designer over the latest black POC blogpost about inclusion can't see any difference in WOTC politics or decision making.
Brody Ortiz
>ugly fat tumblrina tranny detected
time to increment the statistics my dude, everyone want attractives women, read Plato before offing yourself
>MTG design meeting They have a dart board with random minority races, mental illnesses, and bonus tranny in the middle.
"Looks like the new planeswalker is a brown, schizophrenic woman. Let's wrap it up that's enough design work for the day. The backstory and other stuff about planes we can do last minute. Anyway everyone celebrate yourselves on twitter and pat yourself on the back for making the world a better place".
Jack Jones
I remember when MTG used to have attractive women.
This, it's depressing really. There are hot women from all ethnicities, but they're so afraid of making them look white that they focus and exaggerate some racial traits.
Landon Fisher
There's a difference between making sexually explicit art and making art that looks good [which extends to attractive (for both males and females)].
Julian Foster
We care about social justice at WOTC. That is why we have designed these amazing black women to represent the race to little kids in a positive light.
I really don't give a fuck about the characters they put on the cards, BUT
I couldn't miss the irony of them hiring this black woman to write about that Kaya character for Conspiracy. Kaya ends up being a thief and serial murderer lel, and her art has a stereotypical afro
Evan Jackson
The new face of MTG. Sales to skyrocket. BUY MY PRODUCT