I'm An Owl, Hoot Hoot Edition
Discuss the lore and story of the Warcraft franchise and its application in and around traditional games.
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Owls are shit! Crows are where it's at!
>Blizzard said a week ago that they won't give the old races new customization options.
BUT WHY!?!?
They're lazy hacks.
I'm still waiting for them to redo the human models. They are fucking awful. I feel like they also kind of ruined dwarf and troll females, too.
Daily reminder, elune got some or the spice stag meat to make the dryads.
Elves canonicly ore gucchi with banging animals.
Blame the writer, not the orcs. They deserved better.
I like green over brown/orange but Mag'har has badass tattoos. FUCK.
Centaurs exist because a Keeper of the Grove fucked a greater earth elemental.
>blizz so bad and lazy at their own game they can't introduce actual sliders and real customization to the game
>chink games made in some backwater sweatshop studio have tons of face in her options sliders for body phenotypes height weight bust hips face color Etc and look infinitely better
I'm going to go with they're lazy. They can't even make their cutscenes not look like shit, yet somehow the threadbare team working on Final Fantasy XIV manages to produce better looking ones in their castrated version of the Luminous engine. Sad!
This really, I've written to many complaints about this so I feel quite burnt out.
Remember, if the males of your race sleep all the time, the women are gonna turn to fucking anything with a dick.
Tbho nelf women taking worgen knots is the ideal pairing when you consider what their 'men' are like.
She's seen some shit.
Man, I sure do love night elves.
They look perpetually startled. This is a problem with most of the female faces actually. They tried to give a lot of them this wide-eyed look but it just comes off as terrible.
Me too, user.
Nelf+woren male =best combo
So do I
>Worgen
Absolutely disgusting. Don't delude yourself Gilneasdog.
>t. Nelf male druid cuckold
I want to type more but I honestly feel like I'm past the point of caring, generally speaking though most of the new models suck with a few exceptions. Something close to pick related instead what we got would have been preferred, and that's just the effort of someone who was bored. I don't know the fuck Blizzard were thinking but clearly they wanted to throw their own art style out the window.
Gnomes will fuck for research grants. Nothing will get in the way between a gnome and their pursuit of knowledge, not even posing for sexy pinups or letting a dick rest on their face. They shouldn't look down on the goblins so much.
>actual wrists
By the Light! What is this heresy?
Sorry friend, your women like that spicy worgen knot
>Implying
Ugly wolf furries are ugly wolf furries.
I want to level up my engineering with her if you know what I mean.
Yet your women sure love to fuck ugly wolf furries! I wonder why.
So you should keep posting.
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Reminder
I could just go on about them forever.
You seem convinced that I play a night elf. I don't. Fuck druid lore, it's boring as shit and lead to ugly wolf furries.
I'm not sure anyone has the high ground on that.
Just geeking out about night elves while listening to nightsong on repeat
I really, really want to fuck a demon hunter.
I like elves too.
Second
>Some serious posts that address the issues with the new models
>Suddenly porn posts flood the thread
Hm.
Speaking of Worgen are they ever going to actually update their models?
The game really should look more like this by this point. Still has that well feel but way more detailed, better textures and lighting, etc.
>"By the Light, he's behind me again isn't he? Probably thinking about how he could pick me up with one big troll hand and use me like a masturbatory aid and I couldn't stop him. How dare those...savage trolls think that about me. I should speak to him about it later in private..."
>"By the Loa these fake horns are itchy."
>those pixelated as shit textures on Alleria
Yikes. I thought Blizzard was suppose to be using higher resolutions after Warlords??
What is he going to be the Loa of?
In all seriousness, though, why do gnomes not get a fair shake, if you feel they're being mistreated? What would it take to take gnomes more credibly and respectfully? Their main features visible to the rest of the world are their endless curiosity, formidable intelligence, and boundless optimism in the face of adversity. That last one is particularly remarkable when you consider that the gnomes are one of the most devastated sentient races on the planet. Their perennial friendship with the dwarves is only represented in how the dwarves let the gnomes stay in Ironforge when their own city, Gnomeregan, was perhaps irreparably destroyed, leaving them homeless. Being able to smile and keep moving forward when you're under threat of being a lost civilization is impressive, you have to admit.
Failure
To be fair, there's not much to say about the shittyness of the new models that hasn't been said.
And the shittyness of the rigs
And the shittyness of the story.
Meanwhile porn posting just continued from the last thread.
Umm sweetie, what have YOU sacrificed?
Alliance tears
>Being able to smile and keep moving forward when you're under threat of being a lost civilization is impressive, you have to admit.
Because the draenei do that but better.
Meanwhile Wilfred Fizzlebang and Milhouse Manastorm.
But draenei are angry. ANGRY ABOUT DEMONS.
Have some more serious storytelling for them brought to the front and less jokes and memes. Everyone brings up Gnomeregan but it's largely ignored at this point in the game.
You can do small races that are taken seriously and are even dangerous, like the Ul'dahn Lalafell in Final Fantasy XIV basically controlling the biggest trade nation in that part of the world and running all sorts of crime syndicates and other crazyshit like a sort of Dutch East Indies company with an Arab aesthetic.
It just don't feel like big players at all, same with the goblins. So yeah I'd like some more serious storylines where they come off as kind of dangerous even.
>Illidan didn't hit any of his veritable harem of night elf demon hunters while lording about Outland.
If anyone could be an incel by choice, it's Illidan. I'm impressed.
It's an often complained about issue but it's less the issue itself and more how easy it would be to resolve with the amount of money Warcraft brings in, yet they're more lazy than all sorts of smaller Studios who do more. It's really damning that there are so many shity Korean MMO's that still look way better and have more customization. So take it less about the models being bad in Mora condemnation at how awful blizzard is. They do the bare minimum required and yet have so much money and player retention that makes their peers jealous regardless of how low the numbers have been dropping. It's kind of disgusting that they get rewarded so much for how little they actually do compared to other game developers.
Incelidan.
Draenei are great as a race because they seem to literally be able to toggle their anger. They're goofy fucks, goofier dancers, and they're the horniest goofs.
Then the Legion shows up and they have a warship ready to counter invade with and should arguably be the best damage race the Alliance has.
Then when the Legion is gone they bring back their war-ready hyper evolved cousins...who are even goofier and hornier.
I want to play a LFD now.
I genuinely hate draenei and do not see what's appealing about them, even in porn.
Change my mind.
I apologize, but taste that bad is incurable.
Do you play a dwarf by chance?
Den of Mortal Delights user
>mfw I love both draenei and dwarves
Not him but I hate draenei porn because it is plagued by futas and Big Blue Raptors.
I like my horns.
No. I don't even have a dwarf toon.
Oddly enough, I love the protoss.
But even since I was young, I just never liked the draenei. I've never made a draenei toon. And every time Blizzard does something new with them and updates their status, I just hate them more and more. I think they are the the only thing in the entire game that I truly hate. I wish I could kill every one I see.
>Filled with Blood elves, humans, and a gnome
That was 100% Kael'thas. Illidan finds everything on that list disgusting.
The gnomes story took a huge dive come Cataclysm, while they've always had elements of comic relief before they were more akin to eccentric upper class scientists from the 19th century mixed in with some futuristic tech. With Dave "9GAG" Kosak at the reins for some years they've been essentially turned in to a saturday morning cartoon.
>What would it take to take gnomes more credibly and respectfully?
Mekkatorque's short story is a good example of this, I'm saying they need to be grimdark 40k tier but there needs to be elements of seriousness and actual thought that reflects on what they've been through as a race. All in all Blizzard just needs writers with some background in other fantasy universes that give a shit about the setting, preferably people that have been fans since the RTS.
Do it!
Please stop calling them 'toons'.
I feel like they improved upon them in every way with those short of the skin tone.
>Voices that get annoying after ten lines
>Literally a goody goody Holier-Than-Thou approach to every other race, now including themselves
>Everybody fauns over them
Yeah no Draenei suck. Only remotely good thing about them is porn, and it's really overdone.
so are they honorable savage or conquerors? You can't have both.
The main reason I asked is because dwarf players seem to be the most "Fantasy purist" players. So a Sci-fantasy race like draenei would drive them up and down the wall.
I'm still pretty sure that's the case with this guy since he likes protoss, which are sci-fi draenei.
That's what happens when a race's played numbers is mostly female. Au Ra and Cats from FF14 have the same issue.
______toons_____
>You can't have both.
Uhh, why not? Those are pretty basic terms.
And a lack of ability to be shamans, which is utter bullshit.
>Literally a goody goody Holier-Than-Thou approach to every other race, now including themselves
Wishing well to others isn't exactly "Holier-Than-Thou" user.
I'm not a fantasy purist, but I just hare draenei. I can't even fully explain it. But I could rant about them for hours. My autism is triggered by my inability to determine the logic behind my hate. But there is none. I just hate everything about them and want them dead. They're disgusting to me.
That's how I feel about League of Legends.
*just hate.
Sorry, typo
Really? I usually find that it's the die-hard human and orc players who are more about being purists. Dwarves already kind of shit on that idea of a 'pure fantasy'by having airships planes and guns. Never mind their origins as stone automatons.
Honest question, do you have bad experiences with eastern europeans/did you get beaten up by a vatnik? Or maybe a Kurwa? Most people I know that hate draenei do because they've experienced the eastern bloc countries and project them on to the race.
League of Legends is a terrible game with a few good waifu characters and visual design ideas. Although even that is going down the shitter as they continue to make their old characters look more and more like cheap mobile game knock-offs.
Meh, to each their own. I could say you have shit taste, but that's just my opinion and wouldn't change anything.
Me, I love the sci-fantasy that the draenei bring. Normal fantasy is so boring to me.
>draenei
>east european
Their accents are most commonly associated with Romanians.
Please help me understand why people like draenei. They look like a shitty deviantart sue race to me.
Is it the aesthetics?
Is it the porn?
Is it a desire to be a purpetual victim?
Is it a desire to be some pretty immortal space faggot from a wise and all-knowing culture, bat at the same time be utterly incompetent and an unnecessary retcon of Eredar and WC3 draenei?
What is it, user? Help me. I need to know.
Why do people like these faggy space fairies?
To be honest, I think the reason people like them is because it's something different. I think that's what a lot of it boils down to. I'm indifferent to them, personally.
No. I have never had a bad experience with any of those. I have Ukrainian friends even.
Yes, whether you like it or not my friend most people I know associate them with roma and gyp
While that makes sense storywise, everyone kind of wants to be that "ex-miner honorable warrior surface dwarf with a beard and accent. With an axe." that LOTR set for dwarves years ago. They're the race played by people least open to change in the formula. There are four different version of elves in the game for instance because elf players like different, mostly, and the second version of dwarves isn't anything really magical. They're "Dwarves from deeper underground"
>shitty deviantart sue race
You can claim that all you want but they've done really nothing of note and are nowhere near as shitty as the Forsaken.
Even on the "different" scale, they feel utterly uninspired. Like a ripoff of better races with similar aesthetics.
Is that a stealth gypsy joke?
Oh, nevermind then.
Their culture, religion, and civilization is a mirror of night elf society yet portrayed in a completely separate manner. They have their own unique take on the light, they have their own history with the arcane, and they also have a strong warrior culture established through the paladin triumvirate. This is why I like draenei and the retcon (granted, they could've given them a different name instead of ripping it from the outland broken ones).
they are blue tieflings
Honestly Draenei aren't terribly original.
They're really just "demons not demons", like Tieflings in D&D. People like playing with/as demons, and demon (succubus) porn.