redpill me on warhammer and 40k. basic shit like comics, games, etc...where to start.... universe lore.
Redpill me on warhammer and 40k. basic shit like comics, games, etc...where to start.... universe lore
Nolan Peterson
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Angel Ortiz
>Red pill
Consider going to /r/redpill to find out more.
Zachary Sanchez
I started with the horus heresy novels and the first, uh, five or so were good? Think I might skip the one I'm in now though, since it's some shit about a HERE BE DRAGONS planet where they are fucking glossing over all the battles with the dragons.
Ayden Stewart
The redpill is that the game is incredibly flawed and the whole of Games Workshop exists to make money first and foremost.
There was a period of good art and some ok storytelling and lore back in the 90s - early 2000s, and the game will always be ok for getting teenagers into tabletop games, but apart from that, I wouldn't recommend it.
Jonathan Reyes
If you just want lore, start reading Lexicanum. It's like the Wikia for 40K but more simplified so you aren't reading assloads of fan-dramaticization of things that are meant to inform you.
wh40k.lexicanum.com
Otherwise, buy a game. I suggest Dawn of War. Good for starting out imo. As for fantasy/AoS? Not sure.
Carson Richardson
This user is correct
40k is so bulky a franchise now that its tricky to get into, but this is a good start. The main thing would be to not worry about knowing everything, just focus on the stuff that interests you to start. If you really like, say, Dark Angels Space Marines feel free to read up on them to start with, you'll piece together the references to other stuff as you go.
Grayson Gutierrez
get the starter kit, and read the manual. its like 65% lore.
Caleb Russell
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Evan Powell
>60 million BC
>space lizards (necrontyr) are united under their king by launching war against super geneticists (old ones) who use the warp
>they get their assess kicked mostly by the psychic space elves (eldar) the old ones made
>they probably made orkz too
>star eating space ghosts (c'tan) who hate the warp offer to give them shiny metal bodies and help out
>joke's on them, space ghosts ate their souls, now they're the necrons
>but they kick the Old One's assess and then turn on the space ghosts
>the necrons decide to nap for 60,040,000 years to wait out the psychic jellyfish plague that came out of the warp after they won
>40,000 BC
>psychic shamans realize the warp will get all fucky eventually and ritually an hero to form the super-souled emperor who just hangs out for a while
>22,000 AD
>human empire controls much of galaxy, rules lots of aliens, has super tech
>psykers start evolving and accidentally summoning warp demons
>tzeentch burgled and khorne all exist
>humans invent AI, fights war against AI, bans AI forever
>eldar have their own big empire but mostly stick to hedonist murder drug orgies all day, except for exodites who live simple lives of farming and riding dinosaurs
>murderfuck so hard that slaanesh is born, eye of terror rips open in space and pulls most eldar planets into the warp
>slaanesh immediately eats 99.99% of eldar's souls and kills all but 3 of their gods (khaine almost kills slaanesh but khorne jumps him and he explodes into lpieces, isha is kidnapped by nurgle, and cegorach is just chilling and scheming)
>massive warp storms split humanity and make ftl travel impossible, everything degenerates into lowercase-c chaos
Dylan Wright
>29,000 AD
>warp storms die down, emperor decides it's time to get this show on the road
>emerges from himalayan lab with thunder warrior (gen 1 space marine prototype) army, conquers techno-barbarian hordes
>heads to mars, meets up with mechanicus, they agree that he can be an aspect of the omnissiah they worship or whatever, so sure, they join him but keep lots of autonomy
>sets up astronomican so mutant navigator psykers can navigate the warp again
>makes 20... 18... 19... baby primarchs out of his own dna, whoops chaos warp shenanigans scattered them across the galaxy
>uses primarch dna to start making space marines and reconquer back the galaxy in Great Crusade
>gradually finds all the primarchs and gives them their legions, does some bad parenting so some of them really don't like him
>doesn't tell anybody about the warp so they can't worship it, maintains atheism
>horus is most like the emperor, he gets to be warmaster and keep the crusade going while daddy works on a secret project (making a webway like the eldar so they don't have to do dangerous warp jumps and all planets are connected)
>but he doesn't trust horus enough to share this info apparently
>horus is corrupted to chaos by another primarch
>magnus sees this shit happening and projects across space to warn the emperor
>whoops he blew up the webway in the process
>daddy doesn't believe your warning and TOLD you not to use psychic powers so you're grounded
>sends leman russ to arrest him, horus secretly amends this to "kill"
>magnus decides to just throw in with chaos
>war actually erupts, oh look 50% of the legions are corrupted
>loyalists suffer ass kickings but pull it together
>rally to defend earth
>emperor beams on horus flagship with his winged angel jesus son
>horus kills winged angel jesus
>emperor is critically wounded but obliterates horus' soul
>chaos explodes into infighting as they try to pick a new leader, emperor is interred on golden throne and worshipped
Jonathan Perry
>40,000 AD
>imperium has degraded into corrupt, brutal theocracy
>surviving primarchs are long gone, vanished dead or critically injured
>all the traitor ones are dead or demon princes
>eldar are split between craftworlds, exodites, small harlequin groups, and dark eldar who murderfuck EXTRA hard to protect their souls
>orkz do their pillaging thing
>necrons start waking up
>tau evolved, too small to bother genociding with whole might of imperium... hope that's not a problem later
>tyranid fleets show up from outside of galaxy, start to eat everything they can
>41,000 AD
>important imperium planet on edge of eye of chaos explodes, new warp rift splits galaxy in half
>new eldar death god shows up to start kicking ass
>primarch guilliman comes out of mortally wounded stasis and starts leading imperium again
>demon prince primarchs start fighting people again
>tau can into warp, it goes predictably poorly
>plastic sisters
Jackson Robinson
Slaanesh shoah'ing the eldar is what stabilizes the warp and ends the age of strife.
Levi Young
pretty good summation user
Brandon Wilson
To be honest I never really started anywhere with 40k I just hung out in threads and read agp and other miscellaneous shitblike the wiki until i had a decent handle on the universe
Alexander Morris
Sad but true.
Unless you were into it in the 90s you are probably better off moving on.
40k has jumped the shark a while ago and AoS is a dumpsterfire.
Nolan Powell
What video is that Op?
Ryan Mitchell
This unfortunately. Good thing though is that more people now than ever are jaded so there's a lot more choice about without having to look too hard.
Eli Allen
>redpill
Okay, they are fictional settings, completely made up fantasy, not real. Now you know the truth and can see the reality, has your mind been blown?
Leo Lopez
>redpill
Lurk more, or go back to whichever containment board you crawled out of (as though we don't already know.)
Cooper Reed
>Games Workshop exists to make money first and foremost.
Name a company that doesn't you sanctimonious cunt
Aaron Morales
In miniatures gaming? Momminiaturas for example, he does it because he likes it and it basically doesn't profit much selling his stuff. Lots of the british old ones like GZG, Brigade models or foundry have lots of lines than don't sell that much but they maintain them becaue it was fun to make them.
Jordan Flores
Withou counting all the mini ones than are run at losing money, in garages like companies where the owner puts his money from his other endevors to make minis.
Ethan Richardson
I dunno. I bailed from MTG to 40k last year and im enjoying myself a lot.
This is probably because I'm the "new person" demographic, and everything is fresh and new and awesome, and I have no basis for comparison for anything.... i have no fond memories of the way things were.
Its like with magic cards: I like the old vintage cards with the cheezey art quite a lot and I'm quite bored with the current aesthetic. However, new players to MTG look at old cards and say the art and frames are goofy-looking.
Oliver Wood
Honestlynyou might as well download the 8th edition core rulebook and read the lore segments to get you started. Then pick whatever faction most caught your eye and look up their codexes. Alternatively, just go to Lexicanum (for accuracy) or 1d4chan (for occassionally funny if outdated memes) and start poking around.
Here's some topics to look up:
>God Emperor of Mankind
>The Inquisition
>War in Heaven
>Horus Heresy
>War of the Beast
>Fall of the Eldar
>Damocles Crusade
Angel Sanchez
>psychic jellyfish plague
What?
>40,000BC
I've seen sources that postulate 8,000 BC and anywhere from 4,000 - 2,000 BC, but never 40,000 BC.
>corrupt, brutal theocracy
Corrupt and brutal definitely, but the lords of Terra are oligarchs, the sector governors are chosen by the lords, the subsector governors are chosen by the sector governors, and the planetary governors are chosen by whatever idiosyncratic process rules the courts of the subsector. It's a feudal oligarchy.
Tyler Jones
>>psychic jellyfish plague
>What?
Ethan Ortiz
You know exactly what he means, stop being pedantic. GW went from having respectable business practices and turned in to money hungry cunts.
Lincoln Jenkins
Actually I need to correct myself, now that Guilliman is awake it's a feudal monarchy. Kind of a weak one since he hasn't been able to centralize the power of Imperium enough yet, but he's getting there.
Camden Roberts
>redpill
You can start by lurking more, thanks.
Hudson Perry
There's existing to make money, and then there's routinely screwing your retailers and customers.
>be me during the early days of 5th edition
>DOW II just came out, Relic's still got it
>browsing a bookstore/boardgame shop, it has a cheap sprue of jump packs
>cool, I could get a couple boxes of tacmarines at the comic shop and start a cheap-ish BA army with the .pdf codex
>take it up to the counter
>the owner who's run the place for like 30 years is there
>listen politely to a ten-minute rant about GW's onerous terms and conditions that forced him to stop carrying their shit because it cost too much
>also some rules change that invalidated his glorious Orc chariot army (dude loved WHFB)
>yeah that sucks man
>buy the jump packs anyway, I really just want to build some models
Anyway the old dude's rant had some truth to it. The FLGS's in my area all dropped GW merch over the next couple of years. Also, no matter your faction, GW WILL take whatever units were great and crapify them when the edition rolls over in order to push their new hot shit.
Space Hulk is nice, though. Actually, the unironic red pill is to play their side projects like BFG, BB, and Epic if you like games that are actually good and won't be fucked with too much.
Eli Lopez
I enjoy merchant-posting like the next guy, but I really feel that Kevin Roundtree is doing a good job with GW the last 2 years.
They listen to feedback and have started doing specialist ames again. That and a few other customer friendly things. Sure the minis are quite expensive, but so is every other hobby that's not 'field rock collecting'.
Carter Brooks
It's a fairly common term ya nancy
Austin Morgan
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Parker Morales
>missing the blatant irony
into the trash it goes
Asher Kelly
>Sure the minis are quite expensive, but so is every other hobby that's not 'field rock collecting'
Of course hobbies are expensive, but during the time I played Games Workshop games the price of the boxes increased miles beyond inflation, even before taking into account the simultaneous reduction of miniatures in many of those boxes. That excessive pricing remains in place, so that I can quite realistically consider entire historicals projects for the price of only two 10 man boxes.
Gabriel Davis
>That excessive pricing remains in place, so that I can quite realistically consider entire historicals projects for the price of only two 10 man boxes.
GW prices remain higher than their competitors, but they're getting better with the start collecting boxes and other sets like it.
Leo Scott
I agree they have been doing better overall
but then you have things like primaris characters that cost 35 bucks a pop and 70 bucks for TWO models