Asking again anybody know what books provide info on pre-fall Stigoi, Mourkain, Strigany and anything relating to them
Christian Lopez
Night's Dark Masters from WFRP 2ed
Oliver Perry
Let's say a crazy dwarf engeneer decides to deal with the skaven problem by redirecting the flow of lava from one of the great volcanoes into the underground tunnels of the world edge's mountains, flooding them completely with a constant flood of molten rock. Let's also say he manages to pull this off. Would this help the dwarfs dealing with trhe skaven and goblin problem?
Bentley Baker
It could probably help keep one hold safe but no way the lava would flow throughout the entire underground tunnel system. Not to mention the skaven would just dig new tunnels.
Christian Foster
No. Skaven stretch across the world, and are rather good at mining. They also have wizards.
Nicholas Reyes
I'm currently building a wood elf army but it is more jungle elf. My wild riders are mounted on cold ones, I have bought a carnosaur to use as my dragon and my Glade guard are all converted not to have cloaks so they can better move around the jungle and swamps.
Any one have any ideas they can add? Also does anyone have a good guide for painting tattoos?
Noah Phillips
Replace wardancers with chimps.
Hudson Wilson
Ain't there some one eyed wood elf duck in lustria?
Daniel Wood
I like her, user. Very jealous you have a damsel.
There's not too much info on them, unfortunately, except what other anons have already pointed out. I tend to think from the art it looks a little like something a bit Celtic, reminds me of some tombs.
There's a simple guide that I've found on a google search that seems pretty good.
>All Dawi and Dawi Zharr are replaced with Dwarf Fortress Dorfs, and their Ancestor Gods and Hashut are replaced by Armok
What happens as a result?
Justin Ramirez
Greenskins start fielding Carp.
Jose Torres
how common are werewolves in the empire and other parts of the warhammer world(tilea, estalia, araby, albion, etc)? what do different groups think of them, do amber wizards think better of them than inquisistors who want to kill them>?
Liam Davis
Werewolves of Ulric are mentioned somewhere, I forgot which source (probably a WHRP supplement or something) but they seem to be of dubious canon so I'm not sure if they're actually a thing.
Norscan Werewolves called Skinwolves are certainly a thing though, and they're very much a Chaotic, murderous force, so I doubt Amber Wizards are fond of them at all.
Jack Gutierrez
I can't speak as to how common they are - they're very common in Norsca, I know that from a piece of fluff, but all I can confirm from a short story is that there was at least one werewolf that existed in the Empire. The short story is pretty good, called 'Wolf in the Fold' if you ever manage to find it.
Witch Hunters would probably see them as a dangerous chaos beast, and the priests of Taal would probably see them as little better. Amber wizards might also, but I could also see them being more open to considering them an ally in their fight against the worse foes of the wilderness, like beastmen. And of course there's always the chance of someone from any walk of life falling for their human side.
if they arent aligned with chaos i dont see why amber wizards who are obessed with animals and wild savagery would have a problem with them.
Ryan Thompson
They are still a danger, and Amber wizards are supposed to protect civilized places from the dangers of the wild (and also the reverse). If a werewolf is killing the sheep of a town, they might take action. If they're killing humans, they have to.
There might also be something abhorrent in how werewolves by their nature cross the border between civilization and wilderness, but that's just me guessing. Amber wizards are pretty dang mysterious.
Connor Butler
It could probably suck some cock with a mouth like that.
Chase Johnson
I have a question related to werewolves. One of Mantic's big cost-efficient bundles includes some werewolves. Ruleswise I plan to use them as crypt horrors (they have unfortunately little fur anyways) but would werewolves actually join a vampire lord?
Probably not, but if you can kill it, you can raise it.
Samuel Bailey
True. My vampire lord is a necrach using the morhgoth model (modified) so some of his experiments may have been capturing skinwolves to kill and raise.
I use FW skinwolves as my crypt horrors because I think the models look like utter shit.
Werewolves are a Chaos thing in Fantasy but they'll work for whoever feeds or pays them.
Isaiah Perry
Any good compilation of flame colours on shields?
Oliver Morris
Thousands of goblins and skaven perishes by lava
Carter Brooks
Know any good chimp models?
Errm? Maybe? Don't know what you are referring to
Ooh I like that idea. Cheers
Ah awesome, thanks
Thanks guys that was pretty helpful
Alexander Flores
Isn't most of the Warhammer world hollow?
Camden Nguyen
Finally finished my demigryph riders, the red dragoons, about as well as gluing the riders and not going insane netted me. Really happy how the beard & mustache combo look on the leftmost guy unlike everything else about them. So what did you do today /wfg/?
Dylan Gonzalez
Dwarfs would have been dead for a loooong time. There holds would be world-ending death traps that are either infested with abysall monsters or literal doomsday machines.
Children of Ulric were mentioned in the Gotrek and Felix novels as a form of werewolf.
Sure. Werewolves would probably be more on the mortal end of allies - so expect them to either be entranced or have a legitimate deal or loyalty with the vampire lord.
Liam Peterson
Maaaybe. There's certainly a lot of activity in its depths, but the science of it doesn't quite work out.
The soze of the world is the sticking point - there's solid arguments to claim that the warhammer world is bigger or smaller than Earth, depending on which maps you use.
If it's bigger then Earth, then to maintain an Earth-like gravity, the planet would need to be less dense - which could be achieved by having a large percentage of the world hollow.
If it's smaller, the planet would need to be denser, which could be done by having a higher percentage of super dense metals, like Gromril, being prevelant, or bwing built around a super dense core - which is suggested in AoS, if you can excuse the sauce..
William Hughes
>no you're wrong i've been here for years Nice red flag for a newfag.
Carson Ward
Dwarf Fortress style.
It'd be a good temporary solution and probably wipe out a bunch of Skaven, but they couldn't get enough lava on their own to flood all of the world's underground (and probably wouldn't want to, there's gold and shit down there), and the Skaven would just dig around it anyway. They're also creative.
Plus there are Skaven clans in places Dwarves aren't, like Naggaroth.
Noah Hall
>TIL age of sigmar actually calls the old world "the-world-that-was"
Just did a friendly small-scale game last night, Chaos vs Lizardmen. My lizards pulled through but it was a close run thing. Two of my three saurus regiments were completely smashed by his blob of Chaos Warriors and run off the board, while my third regiment broke the Forsworn on his flank but pusued way too far to get back in the fight in time to save the line. Likewise, my stegadon broke his chariot and other Forsworn on the right but I had to move it away from his monster-killer of a lord. The real MVPs were my handful of Chameleons who harassed his fuck you-block of warriors the whole game, whittling them down by a few each turn until he could finally catch my brave li'l boys in a charge and scatter them. On the final turn my skink priest managed a massive fireball and the erstwhile spearlizard at last got in place for a mopping up charge. As turn six ended his unharmed Chaos Lord was the sole enemy model on the table, facing my saurus spears, stegadon, and skink priest.
What battles have you fought lately, /wfg/?
Carson Brooks
Big fan my lad. Really feel exotic and not bog-standard imperial.
Michael Peterson
Kek
Luis Cruz
>want to play this game but literally 0 of the factions appeal to me
>Dwarfs would have been dead for a loooong time. This should be the case anyway.
Logan Reyes
So how the fuck does the Empire pretend that Skaven don't exist when they once almost got wiped out by Skaven and thus had an Emperor nicknamed "Skavenslayer" for his saving of the Empire from the furry threat An Emperor who also founded Sewer Watches in order to keep the rats out in the future
That post seems completely harmless, user. Are you so insecure?
Zachary Bailey
Three way throwdown between a dwarf warband, some Marienburgers and some Undead in Mordheim recently.
Also been playing Chaos in he Old World pretty heavily too.
Caleb Cruz
Yeah, the whole '1 in 4 births is a female' tied in with 3 kids max doesn't really pan out.
Brandon Reyes
Because someone in the know has been informed that if the Empire start arming up against a threat that is literally under their feet, the rats might take the threat to their food source seriously.
Jason Evans
Better than that planet name they came up with at the last minute.
Aiden Richardson
People throw that number around a lot but never have I seen a source for it Better not be WFRP
Lucas Torres
the tapestry commemorating Mandred has been eaten away by rats. Many other lengths the skaven have gone to in keeping the empire ignorant.
Brody Cook
>never seen a source for it >better not be a source for it
When you get your head out of your ass, you might want to check Oathbreaker or Honourkeeper. They talk about families. It's not hard data, but it should satisfy your autistic ass.
Landon Robinson
Well I want a source for it but I want it to be an actually canon one
Ryan Green
I'd be fine with more girl players. Nice for a change of pace.
Andrew Williams
Skaven just made everyone forget through their usual cartoon supervillain tricks.
Austin Carter
Get the fuck out of here if you want to argue canon in a setting which has a NFL playing spinoff with Demon possessed vampire orcs.
Carson Rodriguez
Don't think I will, since this is the place that is for discussing WHFB and its canon Bloodbowl is its own thing and, exactly that, a spin-off
Aiden Roberts
And combine this with the dangerous life in the mountains + a rather high number becomes full retard and goes suicide.
Asher Roberts
Shit niglet, learn to read. His is the Warhammer Fantasy General - WFG. Not the Warhammer Fantasy Battles General.
Bloodbowl is Warhammer fantasy, silly nigger. So is WFRP. So is Warmaster, Mordheim, Man o' War.
So go suck an undead, demon possessed, orc cock.
Jace Moore
Best I can figure is that, assumig the 1 in 4 thing is accurate - which holds true through army books and novels - then females must perforce have a lot of children over a long time frame.
This is /wfg/, not /wfbg/. You're in the wrong general.
Jace Brown
Goodness you're upset Canon = Canon to the actual main setting and game, everything else is just a non-canon spinoff. Its as simple as that
Sure you can talk about Bloodbowl (though didn't that use to have its own thread?), Mordheim etc. on here but none of that is canon to the actual Warhammer Fantasy setting No need to get so mad about it buddy boy
Grayson Thomas
Ah so which thread would you have one discuss the actual game in, /40kg/ or /aosg/ or one of those monster girl threads
Liam Cook
Who's mad, niglet? You're just crippling yourself by denying that GW backed material is canon.
Get back to that undead, demon orc cock.
Jason Sanders
girl players smell more pleasant
Dominic Cox
The discussion is welcome here, but don't go whining about canon like a bitch. Either accept the answer, or get off your ass and do the research yourself.
James Gomez
Well you presumably since you keep calling me a niglet and screaming about cock Like I said, none of the spinoff stuff is canon to the actual Fantasy setting and game All the other games are just non-canon spinoffs of the main game and setting. That's not my fault, blame GW
Tyler Mitchell
When they are seen the people in charge claim them to be beastmen or just random mutants. Also Bretonnians think them as beastmen.
Ian Gonzalez
I'm hardly the one who's been whining, that'd be the person who got butthurt about my opinion seemingly undermining his love of WFRP I suppose that all there's to it is just reading through all the Dwarf army books
Lucas Miller
Do they just pretend that the Skavenslayer dubbed Emperor doesn't exist either
Tyler Long
Hey niglet, chill out.
GW gave their approval to the WFRP producers, shit is as canon as the novels.
John Richardson
He is usually called Ratslayer and they have tales from the time about a massive infestation of rats causing middenheim trouble. But they just believe they are mere rats.
Aiden Jackson
I'm just fine thanks. That must be why they cut ties with them and are having other people write 4th edition WFRP? If they're just as canon as the novels then you've just confirmed my stance since they've said the novels aren't part of the main canon either, rather just things one can include if they want to personally Read, headcanon
Jace Phillips
Get the tehnolog ones.
Leo Allen
Exactly, so just as canon as anything in the novels.
And ypu asked a question with no answer in the army books.
Get back to vampiric, orc, demon cock sucking Niglet.
Lincoln Lee
Well no, not as canon as anything since the actual canon is comprised of the content in army books and main edition rule books If there's no answer to a question in an army book or rule book then its canonically a mystery
Camden Richardson
So anything by a writer they got rid of doesn't count either?
Leo Gray
you are genuinely an idiot
Anthony Smith
It was just to point out that GW lost faith in FFG. The next part of the post is the part commenting on canon
Oliver Thomas
Excellent argument, really set me straight with that one
Andrew Phillips
Not an argument, he's just pointing out that you're a numpty.
Was it a faith issue or a money one? And I don't see GW rescinding any of their publications and removing them from sale, so...
Sure contributes a lot, though then again the discussion was already mainly ad hominem targeted at me. Which says a lot about how good a defense there is to be made. Anyhow, GW just rented out their IP and seeing as their stocks are soaring since 8th ed 40k came out, they're not stuck for cash. Fact of the matter is, they dropped FFG. They did get some good guys to make 4th ed WFRP however.
Landon Ortiz
You're arguing that changing the medium of a IP changes the canon of the IP regardless of internal consistency or linked and co-dependant elements.
He's not arguing that you're an idiot. You are an idiot. He just felt the need to say so.
You idiot.
Who confuses a statement for an argument?
Liam Watson
So you agree you don't know why they dropped FFG and you're choosing to believe an assumption that suits your point
And you're also taking the stance that GW can rent out their IP - thus supporting what others do with it - but it doesn't count because you say so? Even though GW approved rentig out their IP and had ultimate say on giving the produced materials the go ahead?
AND you believe that the only reason some would insult you is because they were losing an argument?
Sidebar - you're a dumbcunt. That is unconnected to the topic at hand or the validity of the points regardig canonicity or IP ownership. You are just a dumbcunt.
Leo Nelson
thanks mate. I don't know where I got wrong, but i definetly have to fix things after the washes. As I said, the paints are thinned but the face and white dress seem oddly rough on photo. I'll upload her again once I have highlighted and done details.
Sebastian Ortiz
>You're arguing that changing the medium of a IP changes the canon of the IP regardless of internal consistency or linked and co-dependant elements.
There's a question:
Let'suse a different IP as an example - Firefly.
We have a TV series - not all of which officially aired. We then have a movie, books, a string of comics, a roleplaying game, board games and IIRC a video game that is in the works.
All of these contain details that expand the setting and give us more detail.
Would you argue that if it doesn't come from the TV series it's not canon?
What about the stuff that never officially aired before cancellation - does that still count, since it was never properly released?
What about comics that were written by the sane people who wrote episodes of the show? Do they count as more canonical over comics or books written by people who never worked on the original series?
Chase Rodriguez
Boy oh boy I sure am convinced. Especially by the way you failed to see me saying "nice argument" to his attack as making fun of him and seeing if he'll try to come up with something else to say Fact is, WFRP is in no way canon to the actual main setting or game. Not WFRP, not Bloodbowl, not Warmaster, not Dreadfleet, not Man o' War, none of the spinoffs are canon to the main game and setting. Its clear as day that it wasn't a financial decision, they're set for income, on the rise in fact. Why else would they change writers? Something made them lose faith in FFG, can't blame them really.
In the end the only thing that matters is: none of the spinoffs is whatsoever canon to the main setting. In WFRP by FFG, Dwarfs may have such a birth ratio. But that is not connected to the actual WHF setting. Thats all limited to the WFRP, which is not canon to the actual setting. Just like the novels. Though I did forget to add that WHFB supplements are canon as well, at least to the edition during which they're put out.
John Bailey
On Veeky Forums it is common practice to call the winning side names once one runs out of things to say, because they don't want to admit that they're wrong either due to social pain existing
Jordan Smith
Actually they call the Warhammer world The-World-That-Was.
Mordheim is canon, it's mentioned in Hordes of Chaos.
Ryder Hughes
If it's all approvex by the owners, then it's all canon. The only stuff that wouldn't be is fan-made stuff unaffiliated with the property.
Did FFG or GW every release a statement explaining why they cut affiliatioms, officially? Because if they didn't, and if nobody has said anything about it, then I guess all we have is guesses and speculation.
I'm not too fussed either way. WFRP has been handled by Hogshead, Green Ronin, FFG...what's the worst that could happen under Cubicle 7?
Doesn't make sense that it would. If they stopped printing the book or selling it electronically though, an argument could be made that it was not longer canonical.
Why do you go around smelling people?
I'm guessing that when they introduce Gotrek into AoS, part of his story line will be establishing a new homeworld that'll become the Warhammer setting 2.0.
Is there any solid info on the dark beneath the world?
I love the concept, but there's something about that colour scheme that really clashes.
Orc cancelled WAAAAAGH. Interrupted by Carp.
Is the boobsnakes tongue a hollow tube?
Joseph Hall
>/whg/ is waking up
Excellent, maybe once the 4th edition drops, we can drive the RPGfags back to their own general.
Grayson Price
>Why do you go around smelling people? >neckbeard thinks that people have to walk up to him and sniff him
Jacob Price
Bloodbowl is an alternative timeline, just like Storm of Chaos or End Times. This is known.