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1st for lychguard are elites
I wish we'd gotten a Coven SC instead, but this could be worse.
3rd for dead meme
Yeah? What else would they be?
It would be nice to have them as troops, but I mainly only say that because raising the troop minimum to 3 was painful for everyone not playing a horde army.
3rd for Chaos is begin to grow
With strong enough isopropyl weaken/dissolve super glue? I have a devilfish with a glued burst cannon from eBay that’s driving me nuts.
Make a named character for the dark Eldar to fill a hole in the army.
Darth Haemonculi
Normal Haemonculi stat block, but allows you to upgrade splinter weapons to get plus one to wound for one point per weapon upgraded.
It is technically "Worse" in that you get less discount for the changed box and Wyches are less useful than Kabalites.
>Reposting this because it's been bugging me all day.
Can anyone help me find a bit of fluff. I could have sworn it was in the 8th edition rulebook appendix, but it was a small bit about the guards on the black ships and how they wear masks made to look like snarling beasts.
I'm about to start an army based off a black ships forces and thought it would make for some cool scion conversions.
Gonna repost once since last thread it was DoA.
So now that Codex:Blueberries has been out long enough for the people who play to get a few games, and everyone else to at least have read a bit, what units are the big winners so far? Here’s what I’ve got.
>WAAC tier
Coldstar, Fireblade+MSU Strike Teams
>Easily auto-include tier
Pathfinders, Ghostkeel, Stealth Suits, Ionheads
>Good tier
Broadsides(HYMP better, but HRR serviceable), Ethereals, Enforcer Commanders
>Fieldable if you like it tier
Carnivores, Firesight+Sniper Drones, Breachers(quite situational though), Crisis Commanders, Devilfish, Shield Drones(might be good, need more testing).
>Things I haven’t tried but might be really good
Riptide, Sunshark Bomber, some Crisis loadouts, Marker Drones(don’t see why I’d want them over pathfinders though), and all named characters(because miss me with that gay shit).
Anything obvious I’m missing? Anything y’all have felt like has over-performed for you?
in the points section of the new codex it shows them as troops, wheras the datasheet still shows them as elites
Thoughts on the conversion beamer on a chaos contemptor? I feel like it has easy potential for a crapload of damage to hordes and think a pair would be hilarious.
Sure can.
Try freezing it first.
>With strong enough isopropyl weaken/dissolve super glue?
It will eat the plastic as well. Freeze it, which will make the glue brittle, and you should be able to snap it.
>just found out Deathwatch still have specialist ammunition and apply it to other kinds of bolt weapon as well
>meanwhile sternguard don't even get better combi-bolters anymore
what the actual fuck
I preferred the original one with Kabalites myself, but its possible the Codex will make this one a bit better I guess. I just don't like most of the Wych Cult units.
I want to kitbash Crisis suits with Dreads to make them look more Imperial and then attach some AdMech weaponry. I think I could use them as Kastelans. Is this maximum Tech-Heresy?
In my last game I got tabled by crisis fusion spam backed up by a couple units of strikes.
Well... almost tabled. I had a single model left at the end of turn 5, and won it on points.
You get 5 less dollars of value (AUD) while getting a lot of value in that you actually want venoms over raiders. And you can still pick up the kabalite sky splinter if you just want the raiders and warriors.
Gonna try this. Thanks lads.
Archon Leads-From-Behind
Literally just an archon with a big ranged gun.
Archon T'Cev. He's effectively a vehicle special character, as he always rides on his special Raider Of Ruination which is like a normal raider but with an invulnerable save, better stats and a few extra guns, and an extra melee weapon to represent the archon leaning over the side and hitting stuff.
Mix in some Necron and Eldar stuff to achieve MAXIMUM
Is it possible to summon under-strength units?
Example: I currently have 56 points left over in my list. I want to summon 8 Bloodletters that cost 56 points, but minimum squad size is 10.
Is that legal?
What if unsaved wounds from splinter weps give further splinter shots +1 to wound? Would that be what deldar need?
>laughs in kronos
Should I make my third 10 man immortal unit gauss or tesla? I already own one of each.
Only if you used power points.
They are troops when using points.
no
UNDERSTRENGTH UNITS
Each unit’s datasheet will describe how many models make up
that unit. Sometimes you may find that you do not have enough
models to field a minimum-sizedunit; if this is the case,you can
still include one unit of that type in your army with as many
models a . s you have available
If you are using Power Ratings, you must still pay the Power
Rating cost as if you had a minimum-sized unit, even though
it contains fewer models. If you are using points, you only pay
the points for the models you actually have in an
understrength unit (and any wargear they are equipped with).
An understrength unit still takes up the appropriate slot in a
Detachment. If you are playing a matched play game, you can
only include an understrength unit in an Auxiliary Support
Detachment.
I disagree, because while you definitely want venoms over raiders, you probably also want kabalites over wyches, and you definitely don't want a succubus. Ironically, I'd be much more likely to use raiders with wyches.
Where do you get a sky splinter box in Aus?
No.
>You get 5 less dollars of value (AUD) while getting a lot of value in that you actually want venoms over raiders.
You may want to stock up on venoms, but who wants lots of wyches?
Its a dumb box set too, because they give you 10 infantry, and a transport that only carries 5.
>And you can still pick up the kabalite sky splinter if you just want the raiders and warriors.
Discontinued a long time ago m8.
Is the scan of the Necron Codex around yet? Failing that, does anybody have a link to the leaked beta one?
About to order a bunch of stuff but lost the leak.
Cheers
>If you are playing a matched play game, you can only include an understrength unit in an Auxiliary Support Detachment.
This is the relevant part.
Not allowed when summoning, only as an auxiliary.
>he wants a scan of a codex that isn't even out until Saturday
Jesus user, just wait
Why though? I can't find anywhere that SUMMONING under-strength units is not allowed. Power level remains the same and they are not in the list, just reinforcement points are left open.
Why don't you just check yourself?
Cheers
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there's the beta, best we can do at the moment
The problem with splinter weapons is that you're paying for s4, essentially, but what you get is strictly worse. Against t3 you're much less efficient than their weapons, whether s3 or s4 and you can't do shit to vehicles, even weak vehicles. And everything not a vehicle with a high toughness has good armour as well, and a shit ton of wounds. If you want to fix them, give them s4 and mortal wounds/heavy armour save mod like eldar shurikens on 6's or something (and make vehicles immune to it, if you must).
Special circumstances, it was leaked as a YouTube video weeks before release.
I have it, but I have it as an unweildy pile of individual phone screenshots.
So where are the Dark Eldar leaks? I'm getting pissed off that every single faggoty army had their shit leaked except my army.
It's not included in the army though, since it's not in the list. You are summoning them.
I already have FW doors user so I can already summon after disembarking, but can I summon under-strength units after disembarking?
Good. We want you to be unhappy.
Splinter are shit against guard but good against bikes, death guard, Custodes and so on. Not awful anti-monster either.
A bit of a mixed bag, but ultimately the unit is cheap, can take a blaster, and you want to spam their transports anyhow.
>the codex isnt even on pre order yet and he wants leaks
>hell the first preview isnt even up yet and he wants codex leaks
Jesus fuck you people are impatient
This. Dataslate role designation > point index categorisation.
Are you talking about the stormtroopers/scions on the Inquisitorial Black Ships, or the guards on the Black Ships of the Astra Telepathica?
The former COULD have spooky masks, but I'd wonder what Ordo the commanding Inquisitor is from if that was the case.
The second although possible I am doubtful of, as their main purpose is to suppress and guard the rogue psykers on their way to Holy Terra and wearing scary beastlike masks when trying to keep a population of rogue psykers in constant chaos calm seems poorly thought out.
You could always make up some fluffy reason to run with it anyway.
...
are, are you talking to me?
cos I think you wanted the other guy
Cheers user.
its not what is not allowed. its about what is allowed.
learn the difference
Jesus user wait until GW decides to leak it. Because we all know that's where all the leaks come from. It'll come around this week or next.
>who wants lots of wyches
Me
Thanks user, beta is fine. Just so I don’t order total shite.
Non-weeb here, 'Fireblade+MSU Strike Teams' I guess would be infantryspam like Chaos Cultists or IG blobs, but which gundam is the Coldstar and what makes it so good?
>If you want to fix them, give them s4 and mortal wounds/heavy armour save mod like eldar shurikens on 6's or something (and make vehicles immune to it, if you must).
I don't mind the general +4 to wound, it gives them a unique feel, but something like that +6 to wound does a mortal wound would be nice. Might need balancing though.
Got a weird urge to do a United Eldar bike list.
Not helped mind by corsair bikes not having rules anymore.
I know there are definitely pros and cons, but essentially the problem is that the low-toughness models are better given the 8E wound rules, and everything with a higher toughness than normal has at least a 4+, and splinter weaponry can't do shit against armour saves.
Then maybe you should buy some, instead of a box that only comes with 10.
Would you faggots shut up about this already? We'll get out leaks in due time, the necron Codex coming out so early just spoiled everyone.
40kg, what is best in life?
>when you get that fluff for your army just right
Feels good man.
The game is based on an INCLUSIVE ruleset, which means it is only allowed if it specifically says it is.
The game states you can ONLY have under strength units in an auxiliary detachment. Summoning is not an auxiliary detachment, nor does it say you can summon under strength units, therefore you can't.
I think the tau codex leaked about a week before this point too.
To crush the Daemons, see Heretics driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the Xenos
>which gundam is the Coldstar and what makes it so good?
...it is literally called Coldstar. That's like asking which Gundam is the Riptide.
And it is good because it can advance 40" and shit out 4 meltagun shots at BS2+
>and to hear the lamentation of the Xenos
What about the lamentations of the Xenos women and in particular those of them with thicc thighs?
building plastic models and never stopping
Or move 20, shit out four Melta shots, charge, shit out two more Melta shots.
Alright, I'm going to concede the argument even though I am not convinced since it feels like we're getting into seriously waacfag territory.
this is now weird
you made this weird
It's the fighter jet one that can rocket up 20", or 40" when advancing, and hit you with 4 fusions. Or my personal favorite, 3 fusions, shield generator and fusion blades.
Corsair Bikes exist user
How large should a unit of Plague Marines be?
I'd rather wreck myself
I'm guessing that Wytch Cult stuff will bet getting a significant buff if they're putting that all in the start collecting box.
Now if they're smart they'll keep both the old Dark Eldar SC and this new one.
Seven. No more, no less.
Minimum size to maximize special weapons.
>guards on the Black Ships of the Astra Telepathica
This one, I'm 99% sure I read it somewhere a few weeks back, but I can't seem to find it anywhere now though.
I guess I can just claim it as my dudes anyway.
fourteen
big and beautiful
Playing to win with an army you love against people that also try the best and don't get butthurt over losing.
Uwot
I think you're referring to Black Sentinels who I'm pretty sure wear spoopy masks
What's your favorite Matched Mission?
Do you prefer Eternal War or Maelstrom of War?
Deldar should have 3 SC boxes honestly
Everyone should.
Why did no one smell a rat before Istavan 5?
Like, everyone knew that Horus was a military genius, surely they must have suspected that other legions would have fallen other then the DG, WE and EC to his cause due to the fact that horus would have known that he had no hope of winning with just those legions?
I was pointing out that the box you posted only comes with 10 wyches, that's what.
I figured it out, I was thinking of the Black Sentinels, wh40k.lexicanum.com
Not exactly what I was thinking of, but still a fun idea to flesh out fr maximum my dudes.
Oh neat.
Now if only bike HQs existed for Eldar who aren't craftworlds.
Because the other legions that fell were the literally who of Space Marines.
How do you find such a magical Christmas land? The entire 40k culture I've found is about labeling winners as dicks.
Thanks bud, just worked it out myself as well On that note, where to get spoopy masks? I was thinking daughters of khaine?