I can't decide if I want to play Tau, Orks, or wait for the rumored Space Wolves update.
Let the dubs decide my fate and may the God-Emperor grant me mercy.
Oliver Lewis
What do you enjoy gameplay and painting wise?
Wyatt Mitchell
AdMech
Nicholas Walker
All 3 have terrible fanbases just so you know
Jace Torres
continuing the discussion on the snipers from the last thread, the ratlings come out to 7 with their rifles, so you could field 2 for every scout at that price. they are points efficient enough to field the volume you would need to get actual decent mortal wounds fishing and have some movement shenanigans that will help them stay alive longer than scouts in most situations
Andrew Gray
Are any of those not played or underrepresented at your local place of play? Consider filling the hole
Gabriel Brown
>tau >space wolves What are you even doing. Choose orks.
Jaxon Flores
Orks is the least cancerous of those
Brandon Baker
The Omnissiah has spoken. Let the Motive Force drive you.
Anthony Watson
It annoys me that admech have the only snipers that actually work like they should.
Jacob Wilson
That was fast
Parker Jenkins
what is it about the spacewolves players that people find so terrible? i've known quite a few space wolf players in my area, some like the viking aspect of it, some like the werewolf aspect of it, but they arent any more obnoxious than any other space marine player who enjoys wh40ks rediculous lore
Austin Ross
HOW TO FIX VANILLA MARINES
Stratagem - 1 CP Select a Tactical Squad, that squad doubles the Attacks characteristic of all its ranged weapons until the start of your next turn.
When a unit disembarks from a Drop Pod, until the start of your next turn the enemy must subtract 1 from all hit rolls made in the shooting phase for attacks that target the disembarked unit.
Jump Packs are a free upgrade for Assault Marines.
Ayden Thomas
Scouts are troops.
Mason Butler
There isnt a single finecast model that can't be done better by a chinaman for 1/4th the cost.
Alexander Evans
A hobby is a luxury that a person will have to work for to afford. If you can't afford it you should not be messing with it. Even a part time job as a Student can get you enough money to build up an army over time, even a forgeworld army, so there is no reason why you should be stealing and killing the hobby you want to be doing.
Is 100% right.
Alexander Baker
Fishing for mortals imo is the wrong way to run snipers. Best use is for fleshy force multipliers, ignore your Cawl's/Bobby Gs/Morty's etc and aim for the Lieutenants/company commanders/enginseers etc
>implying $35 clampack characters isn't theft >implying codices have to hardback and full color when softback and grayscale rules were standard and 50% cheaper >selling the digital version at same price as hard copy
Ya okay.
Owen Hall
Dreadnought spam. I mean. It's not actually good, but it's probably the best they got.
i half agree with your point, RG and morty are far too hard of targets to hope to fish down. i feel like caul is just on the right side of weak enough that if you ran enough snipers he would have some trouble, though he does regenerate. what about something like farseers or brood lords or crypteks? the vast majority of HQs fall in the 4-7 wound range with no FNP to mitigate mortal wounds
Tyler Williams
When they stop screwing Australia over I'll start buying their products.
Dominic Myers
Old possessed right? I don't think so. The "new" possessed box has very similar parts though.
Brandon Phillips
raven guard scouts, with cloak and in cover have a -1 to hit (at range) and a 2+ save. How would ratlings compare against that when their hq detachment tax is taken into account?
i can fully understand AU players buying chinaforge models. my browser accidently directed me to the australian GW site the other day instead of the US one and i thought i had stepped into some crazy upside down world of inflation hell. I dont know what an aussie dollar actually buys, but it was saying like upwards of 300 for stuff thats usually like 100 US
Matthew Adams
I'd say prime targets are any character without either an invuln or FNP. The little ones throwing out moderate rerolls or orders etc
No one cares about Australia >T. Nz
Charles Cruz
Hopefully sometime. Hopefully... In the SoB release video I could see something about more AdMech variety, so maybe Fires of Cyraxus is coming, or they are doing something new. I saw a rumor engine months ago that may prove this
Eli Cook
>Mortarion, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle is hard to kill
Wondering what the actual fuck Fedex is doing with my Forgebane box
Easton Martin
2019 is going to be a good year
Jeremiah Miller
>boss new sister sculpts >another small detachment for my imperial soup
Mmmmmm
Jackson Edwards
every soup could use a little breast and thigh meat
Jacob Harris
Cawl has the exact same toughness and armor save as RG with only one less wound, not to mention his regen.
Jonathan Cooper
The drop pod thing would be cool as a buyable add on for the pod, like smoke launchers or something. Personally I think that stratagem is boring, effective, but boring, I would rather see a stratagem that lets a tactical squad advance and fire their bolters as assault 2 weapons to show the tactical squads ability to maneuver.
Jace Jenkins
>Almost 30 per cent of New Zealand nationals say their experience in Australia has been negative. That’s a higher percentage than any other nationality, according to the report. Fucking Kiwis.
Austin Garcia
The US dollar is worth 1.27 Australian dollars last time I checked.
Matthew Martinez
Not old Possessed, just a spare sprue in the Chaos Marine kit to chaosy up your dudes. I don't know if it's in the current kit though.
They're good bits though. Worth getting a few if you can.
Andrew Kelly
Alright guys, what would be a fun budget list to play at 1k points?
Owen Watson
Just finished my Change chickens staff. Head and sword arm are also finished. This thing is taking me longer than Mortarion which I didn't think was possible.
Isn't it the government dicking you over rather than GW.
Jack Wright
Can you fix actual Chaos Marines as well? It's been like three editions since they were my go-to troops choice.
Easton Butler
20 ravenguard scouts with rifles and cloaks costs 360. 20 ratlings with rifles plus a company commander is 170. less than half the cost even with the hq tax
Nathaniel Foster
Another Deldar update tonight boys. Can't wait for more tears from fags who claim to play Deldar but don't even own both an archon and a succubus.
Waiting for my Start Collecting Admech to get here so I can build them
Connor Torres
No such thing as a 40K budget list
Looking sweet, got pics of the head and sword
Isaac Ortiz
The government doesn't set GW's prices
Henry Gray
We gotta stand strong together cuz, our prices are just as bad. I'll only buy paints from my local store otherwise direct from UK is waaaaaaaay cheaper.
Justin Butler
true, i was kind of taking into account RGs ability to stand back up into his wound total for comparison
Cooper Perez
>what is nidzilla >what are dreadnought spam >what are literally anything from chinaman or second hand
Thomas Johnson
They do set import taxes that impact the price.
Adrian Harris
Remove VotlW from cultists, make the aspiring champion better, more special weapons.
Adam Thompson
How on a budget?
Sebastian Thomas
Oh and the ability to take chainswords on everyone.
Jack Hall
Use Veterans and Chimeras. Throw a Lemon Rush here and there
John Barnes
Give them some sort of "demonic ammo" upgrade that gives them -1AP or something, and let them take bolter/chainsword or dual chainsword. Plus let them have 1 in 5 troops carry a special melee weapon.
Luis Morris
>lets a tactical squad advance and fire their bolters as assault 2 weapons Bolters are trash though.
sure
HOW TO FIX CHAOS SPACE MARINES
Stratagem - 1 CP/2CP Select a Chaos Space Marine Squad, that squad doubles thei Attacks characteristic of all its ranged weapons until the start of your next turn. If the selected Squad contains 10 or less models, this Stratagem costs 1 CP. If it contains 11 or more models, it costs 2 CP.
Colton Wilson
That might work. I've already got a decent start on a guard army.
Charles Long
Actually don't have much wych cult stuff at all. Loads of Kabal and Coven stuff, though. Codex got me hype
Angel Campbell
It's high, but it's not high enough to charge us like three and a half times the price.
Logan Powell
>Bolters are trash though Then why are you bothering with tacticals at all? Just play scouts like the fag you are.
Julian Martinez
Imperial Fists tactic and stratagem should be swapped around.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Why are you confused by the fact that I'm trying to improve a unit that is objectively the worst troop unit in the game?
Charles Thompson
1cp, select a unit, for every 6 they get to hit with a bolt weapon, they can fire another shot (Not automatic hit, they still have to roll to hit with the extra shot).
It might actually be the worst stratagem in the game.
William Mitchell
What is broken about them?
Gavin Phillips
I've been trying to home rule Forge World Breacher Squads for 8th Edition, how does this look. I also did a Gravis Armoured Chad Marine version.
Right up until you're facing an entrenched army or one using a 'counts as being in cover' trait. Its situational.
Xavier Thompson
It's worse off in ork hands.
Jaxon Collins
Your solution is boring. Straight buffs are boring. We should be making them fun to play, not just letting them shoot twice, that's something Tau would do.
Leo Johnson
lol, isn't that literally just the orks' new stratagem? Also yea, that should've just been it instead of ignoring cover with bolter weapons.
Cooper Williams
The issues are pretty entrenched into everyone else. Unless firepower comes down across the board we'll have always have problems.
Andrew Moore
Have an example: One box of Fire Warriors in AUD: $85 One box of Fire Warriors in USD: $50
$50 USD = $64 AUD at the current exchange rate of 1:29 which is fairly typical. Where's the extra $21 coming from? It's not the import tax which sits at 5-15%.
Matthew Williams
Does this rule only affect units with the faction keywords Nurgle and Daemon or can it affect units with the faction keyword Nurgle and the regular keyword Daemon? I know they specified that stratagems only work on units from the daemons codex but I can't find any information about other auras and abilities and such.
What? I'm not talking about their tactic, that's fine, although it would have been better as a stratagem, I'm talking about the stratagem that gives you MAYBE 3 extra bolter attacks. How does that help against entrenched enemies?
Nolan Perez
Where the Void Dragon at yo
Aaron Martin
>I'll only buy paints from my local You better not be in chch my friend
Isaac Foster
Except Orks can do it on a unit of 30, IF can only do it on a unit of 10. It's actually arguably better for orks if they can get a reroll aura.
Jace Reyes
they'd also only hit on a 5+
Brayden Hughes
That would be more like Void Hardened Armour. The Breachers in HH get an Invulnerable, so I used the same rule as Cataphractii Armour given the similarities.