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I was just reading an old White Dwarf and noticed that Mengil and his gang originally came in a box of 10. I remember that when GW still sold the unit a couple of years ago, it only came with 5 or 6 models. Do I remember or wrong? Does anyone else remember better? They're selling Mengil in Made to Order soon and it will most likely be the same unit they sold before the great Specialist Games and collectors models purge, and I wanna know if I should be excited or not. If it'll be a unit of 10, I'll totally buy one set.
Nth for Sigmar, The Hammer and The Empire
Overall Thoughts on 6ed VS 7ed
Well, I'm pretty sure that there were probably only like 6 unique models to the set, because that's how metals worked usually. I could see them removing the doubles of the non-command models to save money on their end.
Mengil is an old as fuck Warhammer character. Like, Josef Bugman old.
Was there a love triangle between Anerion, Morathi and Caledor?
It was more a threesome than a triangle. Malekith is the bastard son of Caledor, raised as Aenarion's. Thus when he attempted to enter the fire and become the Phoenix King, he was burnt hideously as he was not the true successor.
After playing total war warhammer 2 with the appropiate factions and reading a japanese comic I had a dream where I was a shota high elf with a dark elf dominatrix.
Is this okay?
No.
No, you need to stop fantasizing dumb hentai scenarios of yourself with dark elves and fantasize yourself killing more dark elves. You can fantasize anout skaven doms though, that's fine.
>Furfags
Yiff in Morr's realm you non-existent fag
Y'all have shit taste.
Vampire Countess > all others
Because fucking Zombies is any better.
>Vampire = Zombie
U dumb boy?
>Zombie=renaimated corpse
>Vampire=reanimated corpse. Just because it has tits dosen' change the fact your fucking a corpse.
Doesn't rot like a zombie though.
How does the Empire survive if most of it is forest? They'd have to clear out large chunks of it just to farm enough food to feed everyone, and that would be hard enough if the woods weren't filled with beastmen and forest goblins.
Does Morathi fuck elf women?
TWW has her makeout with her defeated rival.
If Marathi met Aenerion’s everqueer wife, would she fuck her to demonstrate her dominance?
Reikland.
>They'd have to clear out large chunks of it just to farm enough food to feed everyone
There's just not that many people.
It would be like fucking a velvet-lined bag soaked overnight in ice water.
>You will never be a hard-bitten vampire hunter
>You will never slay Strigoi crypt ghouls and arrogant young von Carstein dandies, growing seasoned and fearsome
>You will never match wits with a Lahmian matriarch and find yourself enjoying the hunt
>You will never be forced to team up with her to stop a horrible Chaos incursion
>You will never have to convince yourself she simply escaped - you didn't let her go
>You'll never spend years trying to kill each other
>You'll never stubbornly ignore the way your heart races when she gives you a certain look you're all too familiar with
Is vlad von carstein actually a nice guy? I dont know much about the lore beyond the games but a friend told me the vampire counts ran an actual country with living people and vlad ran it better than louis and franz and such
Most of Germany was forest during the technologically analogous time period, same with large swaths of France. Egypt was forced to only work a tiny strip of Nile that flooded every once in a while, and the Corn Belt States in America were once coated in trees.
The point I’m making here is that greater size does not equal greater productivity. The Empire is sitting on dozens of rivers in a pleasantly temperate region of the world with advanced knowledge on agricultural techniques. They’re doing plenty fine where food production is concerned.
Wait, what? The hell does this come from?
Reikland, Stirland, and the Moot all produce prodigious anounts of food, especially the Moot which is supernaturally fertile. They also trade extensively with Brettonia for grain
>Nice
No. Effective? Yes. Vlad is very much a dangerous and temperamental tyrant, but as long as you obey and serve him, his laws tend to be just if severe, and the common folk suffer less (as long as they stay inside at night). Sylvania is a shit hole because it's local nobles are ridiculously corrupt and because it's a back water shithole full of spooks, nobody really wants it or wants to manage it, so it gets left to it's own devices. Vlad eliminates corruption and graft by virtue of fucking murdering anyone who crosses or cheats him. He's also very honorable and keeps his word. Dr. Doom is a good comparison if you're a /co/ fag, but without as much of a crippling ego.
There's still the issue that he's literally a maneatinf undead abomination, as are all his nobles and leiutenants, so mortals living under him are literally cattle. Well fed, secure cattle. Vlad minds his property.
Are there any theories connecting Halflings to bountiful harvests? Like, it’s the Halflings doing it?
No, iirc, it's insinuated in a few peices of obscure lore that the moot is hyper fertile because of some meteor that crashed there. The halflings themselves are hinted to be related to the Ogres, having the same insatiable hunger and resistance to chaos as them, and may represent either the races original form before the Maw, or are a similar abandoned project of the old ones trying to create a chaos resistant race
Fun fact, Halflings got a complete army list in White Dwarf
They aren't necessarily supernatural, but the halflings are exceptionally good farmers (and cooks), and we're possibly purpose made for it by rhe old ones. They have such a connection with nature their army list includes tree men and great eagles
So Roleplay question, is there any fan-made expansions for Ulthuan adventures?
But is that really enough to feed all the provinces? The Empire of Sigmar is pretty damn large, has several sizable urban populations, and it's not as if all the roads are safe anyway.
I don't know about Germany but France was actually mostly deforested during and after the Middle Ages.
>Roads
That’s what the rivers are for, user.
Fair point, and calls me out on what I said. Northern France was heavily deforested by the Renaissance, this is true, and it was both the most fertile place in Europe and the perfect model of feudalism. Hence Bretonnia being France with an Arthurian flair.
Germany was still tremendously productive during this time, however, in regards to food production.
He just made it up, dummy
Averland is basically one gigantic farmland
Fucking degenerate
You are a dwarf lord beset on all sides and retreating further back into defensible parts of your hold. A huge war-party of Night Goblins and Black Orcs smash through your upper defences and have firmly taken control. A moderately sized Skaven Clan has risen up from the far depths of your mines and are now decisively defeating your dispersed military. You know that without support you will soon be beyond doomed.
However it pains you to do so you must call the support of an ally. To the forests in the West lie a Bretonnian crusading party that hate the Greenskin menace almost as much as you do and to the East lie the forces of a rampaging Ogre Tyrant who may provide support for coin - of which you have much.
Your honour prevents you from calling on both so, who do you choose?
Bretonnia. Men are far easier to deal with than Ogres.
How do you fellow WoC player use Chaos Knights in 8th? Are they just a bodyguard for characters, a nice little flanker or something you use to tie up a lesser block untill support can arrive and smash it? Or perhaps you have an entirely different approach to them?
I myself haven't used mine in a while but my thinking is that a minimum sized nurgle knight unit that accompanies a Nurgle Sorcerer which then run up a flank and spews Stream of Corruption on blocks of infantry or, even better, hostile knights, which it follows up by a nice and solid flank charge. Add flame breath to the picture and it doesnt seem unplausible to wipe out almost an entire unit before you even have to charge it.
>A huge war-party of Night Goblins and Black Orcs smash through your upper defences and have firmly taken control.
If that happend then your are so shit at protecting your hold that you should take the slayer oath
Anyway take the brettonians, ogres can be bribed by both side
Oh and Stream of Corruption combos insanely well with Curse of the Leper. That nerf on an enemy unit's T with D3 is just far too delicious to not try to get in before you force a massive number of Toughness-tests.
I don't think that it would be hard for Morathi to reach that high in pre-Widowmaker Aenarion court
Oi git! Stinkin hummie tink dat a bunch o stunties can 'old off us orksus? We da bes! Dey didn't 'av a chance! WAAAGH!
In all serious though would Bretonnians even be willing to fight in another dwarf's war? Seeing as how they refuse to call for aid themselves would they be willing to come to another's?
Dwarfs held their grounds against daemons where the elves and lizardmen almost lost their entire empire
Old school Dwarves before their fall from grace. Now they are a crumbling empire hiding in fortifications they can barely repair let alone replicate.
When united a good amount of orcs and goblins can achieve just about anything.
Go the greenies!
>In all serious though would Bretonnians even be willing to fight in another dwarf's war? Seeing as how they refuse to call for aid themselves would they be willing to come to another's?
They hate orcs and are apparently on a crusade. Killing orcs while doing a good deed to people in need seem right up their alley.
I'd probably go for the ogres desu. The Bretonnians lose alot of their military capabilities when you rob them of the capacity to perform knightly charges which is the case against a fortified foe.
>Hire Ogres to kill greenskins
>Get discount for all the food the greenskins will provide
>Hint at some light skaven snacks down at the mines
>Get rid of skaven for free
>Toss the ogres a few chests of gold
>Don't even bother counting the gold because the ogres sure can't
Fat bois a best
Caledor was not falling for her Thot tricks
t. Saltzpyre
He's Vlad II, basically. Extremely brutal and merciless, but reasonably just and well-liked by the peasants because he saves most of his wrath for the loathsome nobility.
Hey lads, could any of you recommend me some good Warhammer novels to read? So far I've read most of the Malus Darkblade series, the Mathias Thulmann series, and some of Gotrek and Felix.
>). Sylvania is a shit hole because it's local nobles are ridiculously corrupt and because it's a back water shithole full of spooks, nobody really wants it or wants to manage it, so it gets left to it's own devices.
...Detroit?
Halflings and ogres were probably intended to be two parts of the same whole, a masterblaster team. For whatever reason though the Halflings apparently migrated away and over the World's Edge Mountains, meeting and teaming up with humans along the way. Meanwhile, ogres adopted gnoblars, perhaps instinctively. But they're no 'master' to the 'blaster.'
Stirland, Reikland, Moot, Averland - all can and do produce surplus. Everyone else can manage subsistence at least.
Ogres. The Bretonni are an alright clan as manlings go, but they're nai much good off those horses they fancy so much. A meal, a scrap, and gold will keep the ogres coming, though.
We should make plans to collapse the Karak if all else fails. I'll shave my beard and my head before I let another hols fall to grobi or raki.
Almost certainly.
Read the first Ulrika novel and the Brunner the Bounty Hunter omnibus.
Yea the empire generally doesn't have any issue with food. They can hunt, trade and their farming techniques are the best.
I read that you need 18square metres to grow enough wheat for a family for a year. That's not too much space.
It's grudging time lads! Knut is ready to lead his warriors, but will need a strong standad bearer and a musician to his side! What are these valiant warriors' names, Veeky Forums?
Warhammer is a grimdark setting where every place is terrible. Vlad's Sylvania was a bit more terrible than the hellhole that's the rest of the Empire. It wasn't Lustria, Nehekhara or Troll Country terrible, but it was still below human dignity.
The empire is not so bad. Even as a commoner you still have some rights.
Bretonnia is true hell for whoever isn't a noble
>Bretonnia is true hell for whoever isn't a noble
Not unless your Lord is shit or you live in Mousillon. Peasants have few rights and little mobiliry, but Bretonnia is super fertile and more peaceful than the Empire.
Jim and Tim
Grim and Grimmer.
Thanks m8!
You'd stuff a hot water bottle down there before doing anything, then pull it out ya dingus
Vampires aren't corpse temperature anyway. Warhammer vampire hearts restart after their rebirth, and they're warm and pliant.
The real problem is that somewhere between the leglock and your orgasm she's going to be SUCCing something other than your dick.
Are there any books about the White Lions lads?
My.. other dick?
Look it's not temporally literal. Point being she's going to drain you like a Capri Sun pack.
>Peasants have few rights
>taxes are 90% of peasant's income
Also, does Alith Anar or post-Sundering Nagarythe ever appears outside his novel and short tale?
>the Empire is not so b-
I don't, the loss of unit strength made them useless as flankers.
>Peasants have few rights
>taxes are 90% of peasant's income
Also, does Alith Anar or post-Sundering Nagarythe ever appears outside his novel and short tale?
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No because Detroit was once prosperous and later declined due to the collapse of it's supporting industries. Sylvania has always been shitty and backwater. There's a reason it wasn't even originally a part of the Empire.
Hey, most... a lot of that gets rationed back
>Alith Anar
Don't think so. Nargarthyr is basically the place nobody in Ulthuan likes to think about or visit.
>Caledor was not falling for her Thot tricks
Unlike his wife
One extraordinary battle which is noted to be extraordinary even in universe.
>Knut
>The name of a late-middle aged electrician with somewhat thinning hair, a beer gut and a visible ass-crack rising over his blue-jeans
>Given to a dwarf.
That's some serious cognitive dissonance you're giving me.
>What are these valiant warriors' names, Veeky Forums?
If you want to continue in the same vein I'd name them something like Lars, Stefan, Bengt, Gunnar or Arne.
What do you mean by unit strength? Was it a stat that got removed in 8th?
Also, 10 S5 attacks with WS5 and I5 seems hardly useless on a unit that's both tough as hell and quite speedy imo. Allthough they are costly as fuck.
May I ask what sort of characters you typically field?
Oh and don't forget about Åke, nor should you be afraid of the dreaded double-name!
Personally I haven't seen any such thing in my 6th ed books either
Maybe he's referring to the min & max sizes for units? I really don't know
Unit strenght was used to determine things like outnumbering, removing rank bonus from the flank and destroying enemies that are falling back. The latter two required US 5. Cavalry had US 2, so you only needed 3 models to deny rank bonus for example. Since chaos knights are expensive, you didn't want more than 5-6 models in the unit, especially since only the front rank gets to attack. Now you need more than the minimum since even a single casualty in a unit of 5 makes them incapable of denying ranks. Not that it matters much since the enemy will still have steadfast. The 8th edition just sucks for cavalry.
>The 8th edition just sucks
fixy
8th is plenty fun
Not the guy you're replying to, but as a Bret player... No it isn't.
At least your questing knights hit with s5 again.
I've seen brets do fine though I'll admit it isn't ideal for them
How serious is a dwarven book of grudges? Does every dwarf have one?
I actively forget brets are playable because no one plays them
The praying mechanic is cool as fuck even if lackluster
Such a book is as dead serious as anything can ever be
I'm not sure if every dwarf has one but every dwarfen hold has its own book at least
AFAIK there are some pretty decent reworks to Bretonnia if you play 8,5.
Weird units like daemon princes or the hellcannon mention their unit strength in their rules. Otherwise it's 1 for normal infantry (20mm or 25mm), 2 for cavalry and models on cavalry bases, 3 for ogre-sized infantry (40mm), amount of crewmen for warmachines and amount of wounds for monsters. Read the rulebook.