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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

MFW no wycch cults making me doubt they'll get any better edition

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Name one god that can beat them.
Pro tip:you cant

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

BLACK LEGION BEST LEGION

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

FAQ when?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Sigmar

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Malal

MPmaster
MPmaster

The God Emperor of Man.

Dumb green xeno BTFO.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Khorne could.
Easily.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Gork or mork

iluvmen
iluvmen

ROIGHT MATES
ME AND DA BOYZ WANNA GET SOME SQUIGS, AND WE NEED 'EM CHEAP

TELL US WHERE TO GO

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I hope we get our named characters back, why did they remove GW remove them in the first place?

Snarelure
Snarelure

No models no rules.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Tzeentch he's kunnin

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

If the orks were artificially created by the Old Ones wouldn't they not have gods? Are Gork and Mork even real?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

If T’au had consistent, cost efficient anti tank outside of suicide fusion commanders they would be overpowered. Prove me wrong

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FastChef
FastChef

he worships a corpse on a chair

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Reposting from last thread: New Ork Codex Wish List. What would Gork (or possibly Mork) wish for?

Ork non-flamer template weapons get more shots (double or something) to compensate for the shitty BS
Point drops for Big Guns and Mek Guns
Better Profile for Deff Dreads
'Eavy Armour, either inbuilt or purchaseable, for Flash Gitz
Point Drops for all the specialist boyz (Burna Boyz, Lootaz, Tankbustas)
A Stompa that is not absolute steaming hot garbage

Illusionz
Illusionz

Khorne wishes his penis was as large as Gork's or Mork's

Also WHENS ORK CODEX???

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I havent played admech in curre t edition. How do they fare? Tips / strategies?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why wouldn't they have gods?
Gods are just coalesced thoughts.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

...Are those air intakes on her nipples?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Khorne isnt kunnin enough and Tzeentch isn't brutal enough.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Mortal races accidentally Gods into existence repeatedly in the lore

MPmaster
MPmaster

What's all this I am hearing about with Hive Tyrants dominating the Tournament scene in 40k? What happened to the Army Organization chart from yester years?

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Chapterhouse, basically.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Why does GW hate the Psychic phase?
do random shit for d3 mortal wounds!
modify x roll by +/- 1!
once per turn tho!
Is it too much to ask for some actually creative powers?

hairygrape
hairygrape

The orks think they are real so...

Methshot
Methshot

Corpse on a chair kicks your gods ass
Makes you think.

TreeEater
TreeEater

If you stopped posting the same weebshit fapbait tau images, the quality of this general would improve a thousand fold.
Prove me wrong. Pro-tip: You can't

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Kind of off-topic but was anyone else a little let down by GG's Warmaster? I mean, to me, it just kind of felt like not a whole lot happened until the very end when it all really starts to kick off.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

nipple placement
What the fuck breasts have you been looking at?

Evilember
Evilember

what is mind control

SniperWish
SniperWish

Shooting always hits on +5s (maybe as a Bad Moons Clan tactic)
Cybork bodies as wargear
A good Deathskulls Clan tactic that works on Killa Kans so my babies are good

Nojokur
Nojokur

GW aren’t smart enough to pull that off, and their attempts at such were the 90% trap options and 10% game breaking shenanigans psychic tables from 7e

Illusionz
Illusionz

Psychic power where you do d3 MW, then on a 4+ d3 MW till you stop rolling 4+ or the unit dies.

Casting value 7, 18" range.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

There is no excuse for railguns being as shit as they are.

The last tournament had something like 7 of the top 16 being Tyrant spam. 8th ed's army construction rules are EXTREMELY permissive -- you can take pretty much whatever you like (except Tau Commanders OMEGALUL) as long as the points permit. This includes characters from other factions as long as they share one keyword -- a winning list from last year (nerfed since) was Magnus, Mortarion, a Renegade Knight and a billion Malefic Lords and Brimstone Horrors.

Supergrass
Supergrass

That's not as bad as the fact that it hinges on a dice roll and can be denied.
Also all the sight and distance rules fuck it up too.

Worst part is the d3 mortal wounds is the best ability in most scenarios. Buffs rarely do more than 25% out put increase, and those are the really good buffs.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Also WHENS ORK CODEX???
Nobody knows, but definitely after the next three codexes (Knights, Harlequins and Deathwatch, not necessarily in that order). I still think they'll continue the whole Sanctus Reach thing and release Orks and Wolves together, maybe with some kind of boxed set similar to Forgebane.

Soft_member
Soft_member

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Alright Haemys, what are your thoughts now its settled a bit?

Prophets of Flesh still seems like a the winner over all, Dark Creed has that nice sniping gimmick but outside FW stuff (which is going to be a big fat target) its not as dangerous as it looks.

Really surprised we didn't see a single Relic.

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girlDog
girlDog

I would also love to know this. GW squigs are expensive.

5mileys
5mileys

Shooting always hits on +5s
Stop it with this meme. invalidating a factions CT is just as bad as invalidating an entire armies shooting.
The only problem with -1 to hits is how easy some factions (Eldar) can stack them, which is easily fixed by saying that the bonuses don't stack, just like how malanthropes and venomthropes don't stack

w8t4u
w8t4u

if tau had anti tank like every other faction they'd be overpowered

What do they do that would be pushing it over the edge?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Draw me more weebshit blueberry fapbait art and we won’t have this problem
t. Taufag who literally can’t stand anime

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Sounds busted. Amazed that Tyranids are back on top but on the other hand I am happy for them. They were getting trashed for a good few years.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'm mostly excited that they said Dark Eldar armies can have multiple warlords. This could be fun and hilarious.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

fapbait weebshit is a problem
therefore the solution is to make more of it

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Wasnt that finished yesterday?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's getting errata'd to death within a week or two

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

+1 to saves, -1 to hit baneblade
Guard is guard.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

t. Taufag who literally can’t stand anime
Obviously you can.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

in a week or
Yeah I heard the head of the FAQ GW team fought one of the lists. So that's one way to get things "fixed" quickly.

iluvmen
iluvmen

New Fire Warrior video game comes out
just like Macha for DOW, the devs gets influenced by Veeky Forums tau-smut, and show Shadowsun as an hot anime-tier xeno waifu in a beach episode

Inmate
Inmate

The problem with -1 to hits is that they take agency away from your opponent and change more how your opponent has to play than how you play. They’re an obviously overpowered gimmick and unfun to have in the game. At least as an army wide rule.

hairygrape
hairygrape

chapterhouse

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

you mean how Imperial Fists invalidate Jormungandrs tactic?

A single Clan ignoring -1 to hit is fine

Methshot
Methshot

Yes, which makes the fact that it's already being posted over and over again so pathetic

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

The only problem with -1 to hits
Or the fact that it literally halves Orks already mediocre shooting, to which a 5+ without modifiers would be a decent solution. Sure, it invalidates some CTs, but so do some other combinations. Dal'yth or Jormungandr get invalidated by Iron Warriors or Imperial Fists, and I don't see people complaining about those being OP.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Probably just going to stick to Prophets because they didn’t make any The Hex rules and they’re simple to use.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

He did say “the same” art
I like 2d erotic art
I like anime
Yeah these aren’t the same sorry

RumChicken
RumChicken

The save doesn't mean much to a tank when they get hit by high -ap.

That hit thing will sting but honestly that's the only good pyschic power of theirs. Guard need invulns for that save thing.

StonedTime
StonedTime

cybork body stacks w/ dok's tools
might is right gives your warlord +1D for melee weapons instead of shitty +1S

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

T°au biology is very alien to our own.

Nojokur
Nojokur

fapbait weebshit is a problem
this kind of ridiculous statements almost killed Veeky Forums

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

6+ always hits should just be in the BRB.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

People actually think the Exorcist tank is something else beside trash ruleswise?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

still shooting with a melee race
M 5"

askme
askme

not on her nipples silly, they are there to vent air to avoid underboob sweat it makes the armour uncomfortable

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Yeah, should be good. Honestly I'll probably take it just with a Archon and Haemy as I'm not interest in most Wych Cult stuff, a second Warlord trait seems like a good return on 1CP.

Skullbone
Skullbone

The worst part is that ork players don't understand it's supposed to balance elite armies against their over efficient enemy hordes.
but orks are inneficient
Index, also helpful against guard.

Auto hit on 5+ is absurd.
It's like ignoring moral, ignoring abilities is just stupid.

Emberfire
Emberfire

6+ always saves should just be in the BRB.

Evilember
Evilember

Grandmaster in Nemesis Dread Knight

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

This notion that "orks are already bad therefore they shouldn't be allowed to be made worse" is simply illogical though. By that logic, shouldn't conscripts have the same safeguards against -1 to hits?
Or hell, why not actual shooting armies, like tau or guard, instead of a melee race, for whom shooting is just a nice side benefit? It's one thing to say that they shouldn't be allowed to be denied shooting entirely, hence why I said that stacking modifiers should be disallowed. But to make them exempt entirely? Fuck off.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Dark Angel Talon Master
[Laughs in Secrets]

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

They are here because the artist wanted to draw a cute shadowsun, not to be logical while doing it

MPmaster
MPmaster

Throw in a photon grenade with breachers, unload, then assault the incapable-of-overwatching shmucks who dared to stand in the way of the Greater Good
You’ve just killed this scenario and I hate you for it

5mileys
5mileys

6+ always denies should just be in the main book.

takes2long
takes2long

The problem with -1 to hits is that they take agency away from your opponent and change more how your opponent has to play than how you play.
It doesn't take away any more agency from the opponent than AP takes away agency in their ability to make armor saves

Playboyize
Playboyize

I could see something like 'This order focuses on discipline and inner peace, allowing them to ignore distractions on the battlefield' for a faction bonus of 'You can ignore penalties to attack' on guys already good at shooting. Orks, a bit less so.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Fuck off nigger. Every single thread it's the same damn shit: tau players posting fapbait anime pics of tau girls for no good reason than it makes them hard.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I'd make the 4+ built in on all "nob" class units.
Be it armour, thick skin or just hardasses.

Swap Powa stabbas for Powa Choppas, seriously, we've ONE "stabba" weapon, and it's a nob cybork arm, meanwhile we've a freaking dozen axes with power weapon nodes on them, but they havent' had rules.. well in all the time the sculpt's existed.

Some "disposable" trait on grots.
I miss using them for cover, mine clearing and traction-pads for your vehicles.

Risky Tellyportas, let you drop your lads closes to enemies than most other factions, with a risk to see models dies from materializing in the ground, trees or if lucky an enemy (two fer one y'see)

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RumChicken
RumChicken

GK Chaplain
Grand Master in Dreadknight
Brotherhood Champion
Twin-assault cannon razorback
Scout sergant with anything that isn't a snipper/bolter/shotgun/CC weapon+pistol

Do I need to go on?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Twin-assault cannon razorback
Has a model from FW. You're right on the rest though

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Orks, a bit less so.
Orks are easy to fluff the +5 always hits for, just accentuate the sheer amounts of dakka that your average Bad Moon spams.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Black Heart Archon with labyrinthine cunning
6 Patrol Detachments +8 CP
battle forged +3 CP
haemonculus with Diabolical soothsayer +D3 CP

Potentially 14 CP so far, rolling 6s for more CP.

This army is going to be able to pull tricks out the ass.
Diabolical Soothsayer

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Makes you wonder why we all keep coming here...

King_Martha
King_Martha

Are wracks worth using now?

girlDog
girlDog

Doesn't count. Remember all the options Dreadnought used to have? Yep, they're all gone now, despite FW making all of those.

farquit
farquit

technically exalted champion too

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

So why can't they make any actual extra hits with all that extra dakka? This isn't previous editions where twinlinked weapons couldn't actually hit more times.

cum2soon
cum2soon

making a reduced armor save for one unit shot by armor piercing weapons
literally your entire army is significantly worse at shooting because I took the faction trait that is obviously objectively superior to all the other ones 99% of the time
One of these is healthy game design, the other is not.

takes2long
takes2long

yeah but why should orkz get it? shouldnt they get something to help them assault better due to being an assault army?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Because bans are pointless.

Evilember
Evilember

orks upset their shooting that is supposed to be a happy little bonus is bad

SniperGod
SniperGod

Drukhari will have leadership shenanigans on par with night lords

WebTool
WebTool

Fair enough, I get your argumentation. I'm not saying Orks are inherently a shooting army, but they can be very much made into one, and they were always fluffed as having piss-poor accuracy, but countering that by simply pumping the air so full of lead they'd hit anyways. Most ork weapons accurately simulate that by having higher RoF than their imperial counterparts, but it completely falls flat when you factor in hit modifiers (which never existed in previous editions), which get progressively more severe the worse your initial BS is. Similarily, Orks were hit harder than anyone else by the change to template weapons, but that's another topic.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

GK chaplain
GK apothecary
GK librarian
dreadnought drop pod

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

desu if the mods actually banned/warned as per the rules, most of the thread would get the hammer for saying "nigger"

TechHater
TechHater

Because they're firing a metaphorical wall of bullets. Its just a case of filing the air with lead soe SOME of it hits, the rest is naturally going to miss.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How about they can't ever shoot worse than 6+

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

technically exalted champion too
I thought this guy from Dark Vengeance was the model

Non Primaris Space Marine Lieutenants

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Nojokur
Nojokur

take the -1 ap trait
suddenly marines and termies are half as useful

Guess marines should always ignore -ap

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

it makes them hard
Are you a 12 year old? People don’t post cheesecake 40k pictures because they’re fapping, they do it because it’s cute and they like to

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Saves are fine because there's plenty of possibility of already avoiding the damage.
-1 to hit stacking and completely invalidating an entire faction's shooting is bullshit and if you try to defend it you're a faggot.
Shut the fuck up.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

And much like Night Lords, they'll rarely use them.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Get me to negative 9 ld RIGHT NOW!

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Lunatick
Lunatick

That's not as bad as the fact that it hinges on a dice roll and can be denied.
What's wrong with that? That's how every mechanic in the game works.

That converges to 4 MWs on average, which is stronger than just about every power other than Zoanthrope squads and Magnus. And it has a huge possibility of variance leading to one-shotting tanks or so. If TS didn't get that, orks sure as hell shouldn't.

I'd just like it if they went back to weapon profiles for offensive powers. You can do a lot more with a number of hits with S, AP and D that just yet more mortal wounds.

Spamalot
Spamalot

GK apothecary
Wrong

GK Terminator kits can build Apothecaries.

5mileys
5mileys

poast moar cute anime drukari plz

cum2soon
cum2soon

the race that invented dakka shouldn't be allowed to shoot anything

w8t4u
w8t4u

No hes an aspiring champ.
Basically a csm squad sergeant.

Which is really fucking weird he's just a lone model you get with cultists.

hairygrape
hairygrape

invalidating a factions CT is just as bad as invalidating an entire armies shooting.
No, no it isn't. Do you think Imperial Fists negating Jormungandr and Da'lyth traits is worse than Orks being unable to shoot Alaitoc at all?

Playboyize
Playboyize

this pls

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Rolled 1, 5 = 6 (2d6)

Shut the fuck up.
Rolling to deny on a 6+

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

get within 12 inches
avoid it
get in melee
avoid it

Oh wait did you just forget?

WebTool
WebTool

Best ending. Designated Shadowsun/Torchstar pillow fight when.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

He's just a model they suggested be used after the fact, technically no offical Exalted Champ model

FastChef
FastChef

worse than Orks being unable to shoot Alaitoc at all?
One TRAIT of one army in the game us broken.
Better buff Orks to counter this 1/X combo instead of nerfing Alaitoc.

Alaitoc now always counts as having Cover.

Done

JunkTop
JunkTop

Because not every Ork army is an assault army? I agree putting it on every Ork might be a bit too good, but making it a Klan trait (bad moons, for example) would be a nice way of integrating it.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

What's wrong with that? That's how every mechanic in the game works.
Orders and auras do not.
And strategems that do similar powers don't either.

Heck most abilities like pyschic succeed on a 2+ and are uninterruptible.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

just look up luth on devia

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Nojokur
Nojokur

not respecting the 3 detachment cap
Looks like Commander spam is back on the menu boys!

Supergrass
Supergrass

Again, a -1 ap trait is changing how -your- army functions, not your enemies. Besides “x is stupid, this makes y not stupid” is a really dumb thing to say. And I’m not one of the Orkposters either, so your post is doubly stupid.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

dreadnought drop pod
That's FW only.

Lunatick
Lunatick

orks are a shooting army because they invented shooting randomly

Wow get in line behind tau dude.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

This is why no one likes Ork players.
they're the worst breed of shitposters, they're aggressive and they have this weird.

If someone has spent a load of CP and psychic powers as to get -2 to hit, why do you think you deserve to shoot at them?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Post cheesecake to anger this baby!

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takes2long
takes2long

Orks have (well, used to have) shooting as a viable, if very erratic option, going back to 2nd ed

it doesn't have to be their main thing, but it should be an option, one that can't be completed invalidated by 2 buffs

w8t4u
w8t4u

this does not qualify as cheesecake bub

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

What is cover

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Techpill
Techpill

isn't a snipper
How else will eh deal with barbwire?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Indeed.

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Snarelure
Snarelure

Alaitoc now always counts as having Cover.
Eh wouldn't mind I guess... but cover should give -1 to hit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

If anything, mechanics that don't allow any interaction with the opponent are athe problem. The -1 to be hit traits being discussed in this thread are one, spammable and reliable (as opposed to proccing on 6s and whatnot) mortal wounds are another.

Evilember
Evilember

It’s like that because the sprues come from DV I’m pretty sure, woulda been harder/more expensive to do it any other way

SniperGod
SniperGod

Because everyone can shoot at something that is -2 to hit. I'm a Guard player, and I hate -1 to hit shit, but at least even -2 stuff I can hit on 6+. Orks are the only faction that can't which is why I hope they get their own special rule that is 6+ always hits for them.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

It's happening, ya gits!

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

They had some cool stuff like picking up and moving cover pieces with the models still on it. Another one let you switch places with another unit. Just imagine it; you're retreating from the berserker when a sorcerer joins them and literally flings the rock they are standing on at you. Or, you're charging some squishy cultists with your hq, and suddenly they are replaced by a terminator sorcerer.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Not what I meant. In the age of mobile networks, phones and multiple devices that can access Veeky Forums. Banning someone is pointless. Since he could simply change device

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Orkz should get squig herds as a big unit of chaff that the enemy needs to burn through. Who agrees?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Blowing up marines easilly changes how marines play.

Its also funny how I give a perfect example that does the EXACT same thing but that's not valid.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

If someone has spent a load of CP and psychic powers as to get -2 to hit, why do you think you deserve to shoot at them?
Honestly if they're spending finite resources and taking the risk of getting Perils for it I'm alright with it. Spamming unhittable rangers with zero added cost and no way to circumvent it? Not okay.

Would having Orks hit at unmodified BS be alright if it was a stratagem?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Most ork weapons accurately simulate that by having higher RoF than their imperial counterparts, but it completely falls flat when you factor in hit modifiers (which never existed in previous editions), which get progressively more severe the worse your initial BS is.
While it is true from a pure percentage perspective orks are more affected, there actual ability to beat an enemy is far less effected than armies like tau and to a lesser extent guard, who rely upon shooting to deal damage to an enemy.
Similarily, Orks were hit harder than anyone else by the change to template weapons, but that's another topic.
I'd argue that they benefited quite a lot too, seeing as removal of templates makes horde armies much more viable. And, if we're being real honest, they didn't have all that much to lose given their 7th codex

Supergrass
Supergrass

Yes, that's about right. Dal'yth are the stealth Sept and they get cover instead of -1 to be hit. Alaitoc, Raven Guard and Alpha Legion should get the same.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

the tinge of green in the middle tells me its just an ork babycarrier

Lunatick
Lunatick

There are literally people IN THIS THREAD who aren't trueborn.
How do you fags live with yourselves?

MPmaster
MPmaster

What's this from?

Spamalot
Spamalot

I don't have any :(

Like, I appreciate it, especially if it angers some manchildren, but I don't see any need to save it.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Except AdMech and IG, what are some okayish ally options for Banana bois?
I have a limited budget so I would rather start with buying a single start collecting to boost my golden dudes or Dark Imperium half if primarines would do the trick

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

We are gods

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

By being not a filthy xenos.

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Dreadknights would actually work for orks.

iluvmen
iluvmen

through the bistering ranks of Guardsmen the withering firepower or lasguns is immense resulting in hitting on a 5+ at worst

The Disciplined tactics employed by the Fire warriors fill firing lines with enough pulse rounds to fuel a vox unit for 3 millennia shall never hit on less than a 5+

Termangants fill the air with so much live ammo ect ect.

Just because you want it for orks doesn't make it fluffier for them

TreeEater
TreeEater

There's a difference between a codex giving you a specific rule that encourages taking 6 patrol detachments and a specific rule that limits you to 0-1 commanders.

You taufags are the worst.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Looks like a looted Contemptor/Leviathan, legs look similar.

WD preview at Adepticon, its on the Warhammer Community page.

Emberfire
Emberfire

You interact with -1 to hit by getting within 12 inches.

And why does this interaction thing suddenly matter with -1 to hit, but not gun lines or melee blobs against tau or anything. Why do you need to interact with an ability that is a buff to their survivability?

Do we need abilities thay remove invuln saves from terminators storm shields or auras from aura hqs?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It’s a converted nemesis dreadknight from a few issues ago.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Spamming unhittable rangers with zero added cost and no way to circumvent it? Not okay.

Litterally nothing does this.
Fucking go into melee and hit them you fucking idjit

whereismyname
whereismyname

And, if we're being real honest, they didn't have all that much to lose given their 7th codex
That is unfortunately absolutely true, but doesn't really help with the current discussion. I agree that Ork hordes benefitted from the template changes more than they suffered from it, which is probably one of the reasons why ork boy spam is currently pretty much the only viable tactic for orks. While not a bad tactic, and a classic one at that, I just want a codex that enables a few other playstyles for them as well.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Would having Orks hit at unmodified BS be alright if it was a stratagem?
Yes.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Tau and Necrons BTFO by Drukhari previews and it's only day 3.

happy_sad
happy_sad

It’s literally not the exact same thing, AND I explained why. Also
implying marines don’t die by the handful to just about anything

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I just want a codex that enables a few other playstyles for them as well.
Fair enough, and I don't disagree that that should be what all codexes do.
But I just don't think it was the removal of templates that screwed orks over as much as what GW put in their place. If all template weapons functioned like the grav flux bombard on the levithan dreadnought, then it would be fine

Bidwell
Bidwell

god you cringe /pol/acks always manage to ruin these threads with your fag-tier intolerance roleplay

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massdebater
massdebater

actually being Vat-born
Haha, wow. They’d be better off taking a splinter round to the throat.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

There is no excuse for railguns being as shit as they are.
Specifically on hammerheads or in general? I thought the only crappy railguns were on the hammerhead, and the gunrig one (just a bit).

How would you go about fixing hammerhead railguns?

New ability for "Railgun": Stabilizer Systems: If the firing model did not move during the preceeding movement phase it gets +1 to-hit with the Railgun
or
New ability for "Railgun": Stabilizer Systems: The firing model does not suffer the penalty for moving and firing the Railgun
(since only Hammerheads have the "Railgun" and this ability only matters to this specific weapon and not the Ion Cannon or FW weapons, it makes more sense to put it on the weapon than the unit (unless people want this on the unit and to have it effect other heavy weapons? That might make Ion Cannons & FW hammerheads still too buff when compared to the railhead))
or
Change it to Heavy 2

Since it's such a big gun and they only get one shot, it'd kinda make sense that they devote a bunch of time, effort, & equipment to making sure it's on target before shooting (or just say fuck it and try to pump out more shots).

The biggest complaint I've seen is just that it's only 1 shot at BS3+/BS4+BS5+ (@ 7+/4+/1+ wounds), with D6 damage, making it unreliable and completely hit or miss when compared to the Ion Cannon which is Heavy 3 and Heavy D6 (overcharge) (with 2 / 3 damage).
Sure, you might hit, sure you might wound and then they fail the armor save, but then you could roll a 1 or 2 on damage. Meanwhile the Ion Cannon gets 3 or D6 shots, still has fairly good Strength and AP-2, but each shot has set damage.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

orks are melee focussed army
oi! why am I only useful against these sneaky elves with me chopa

Do tau do this? Do they get upset when they suck in melee?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Raven Guard and Alpha Legion should get the same.
I'm not too cross with them having -1 To Hit as they cannot stack negative modifiers.

While say if Tau got -1 To Hit instead of Cover you could get -2 Stealth Suits / -3 Ghostkeels which would be stupid.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Some people post cute battle nuns and tyranids. Others cute eldar and even crons. What's the issue here?

StonedTime
StonedTime

This comment
Coming from a frog poster.
Heh.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

1. Webway portal a full unit of grotesques and a haemonculus in w/ prophets of flesh obsession.
2. Make that charge roll
3. ?????
4. Profit

no idea if viable as haven't seen points yet

DeathDog
DeathDog

implying orks don't suck at shooting and it's not supposed to be an option

eGremlin
eGremlin

bringing up /pol/ for no reason
Fuck off

I mean, if we want to be real technical, the riptides are a TEQ copypasta did bitch about kroot sucking. So kind of?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

cheapa trukks

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Greenstuff?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Because they're not using their Kroot correctly, just like orks don't use shooting correctly.

A tau fag making a melee focussed Kroot army is as stupid as a gun line ork army.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

ah, been so long since i bought any GK terminators I forgot, most of my GK are still metal.

King_Martha
King_Martha

roleplaying = /pol/

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farquit
farquit

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cum2soon
cum2soon

Really, really depends on the points value and relative worth of everything although, if the index is anything to go by, they may be better than wyches.

massdebater
massdebater

Keep 1 shot, but damage is now 3d3, D3 Mortal Wounds on damage roll of 8 or 9
It would never happen and would make a lot of people assmad, but it would at least make them worth taking

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Sisters of Silence, assassins

Dark Imperium is an option, but its basically more elitish armored dudes which you already have cornered

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

What happened, anons?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

true, but the kroot thing was far from the most retarded part of that copy-pasta though.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Imperiumfags are fucking boring. You have nothing interesting to offer, which is hilariously ironic because the actual characters in the Imperium are so layered and with depth, that your played out idiocy juxtaposes them beautifully

Xeno race players are pretty much all much more interesting people, while Imperiumfags only ever stick to there "DA EMPEROR IS DA BEST, KILL ALL XENOS! MAGA!" shite.

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Emberfire
Emberfire

instead of an interface linked with power armour, the ork dreadknight is moved by sheer musclepower

Firespawn
Firespawn

and you don't get me going Tau suits should hit on 4s in close combat because daft reasons because I want to make a army something it isn't I will just take my 2 meelee commanders and fuck shit up and not bitch

RavySnake
RavySnake

58786724
baiting this fucking hard
No (You) for you. Now fuck off

TechHater
TechHater

Imperiumfags
Don't bunch me with those deluded fucks, I play chaos.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Iirc some company (Chapterhouse) was making and selling high quality models for units that existed in lore but didn't have official models, this pissed off GW so they sued but ended up losing the lawsuit due to some reason, in response they ceased all references to any kind of unit which didn't have models built by them or Forge World.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

If they didn't see any major changes it'd be alright but not great.
They're still reasonable melee troops but not exactly Khorne Berserkers or Death Company, they're more based on toughness than wiping out units at a time.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Nah, levers, wires and brainplugs.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

I prefer my version

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Alright Timmy, here is your (You).

Don't go spending it all now ok ?

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

punch harder than the tau shoot
still want viable shooting
Are orkfags worse or the same as taufags

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Orks are a melee focused army

Thats why they have a whopping 5 different melee weapons in the army, right?

And 100 different ranged weapons

Also, being good at shooting with no melee is fucking infinitely superior to being good at melee with no shooting

5mileys
5mileys

being good at shooting with no melee is fucking infinitely superior to being good at melee with no shooting

Objectively untrue.

Bidwell
Bidwell

This is bait

massdebater
massdebater

"You will be receiving Legiones Astartes support from none less than the renowned warriors of the II and XI Legions better known as the-"

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Inquisition codex never EVER
Have to be a filthy soupfag even though I'm trying to adhere to lore

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

boofuckinghoo a side benefit of my army gets penalized cant have that we should be good at everything no matter what.

the we only play for "fun" faction
sure thing buddy

SniperWish
SniperWish

I'm not too cross with them having -1 To Hit as they cannot stack negative modifiers.
But they're also not frail eldar that blow up if they get hit.

giving eldar more armor when their major weakness is -ap

Ya nah

RavySnake
RavySnake

Take the world's greatest martial artist and put him 100 feet from the world's best sharpshooter

Who wins?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

kinda depends on what kind of support you want, luckily the fluffy options are also some good suport options.

depends if your aiming to support the gold bois or have the gold bois support army X.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The inquisition do any direct fighting in the lore?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Worse because they think they're in good company.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Kroot Carnivores are a good unit this edition, fight me about it

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

you have grotz dont ya?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

obviously not your mum, who got raped by 101 men before that scenario even took place.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Pretty much everyone in this thread is Trueborn. Only the Drukhari are vatgrown.

Soft_member
Soft_member

defaults to using an irl who'd win strawman
Nigger this is a game

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Adepticon, its on the Warhammer Community page.
Where exactly?

On what level of retardation are you operating on?.

happy_sad
happy_sad

classic tease

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I unironically think ORK units should get a rule that means they ignore all to hit modifers, it would be a good buff to shootas too.

GROT units get their 4+ base but are victim to modifiers.

Inmate
Inmate

At what point does this become schizophrenic paranoia?

likme
likme

Martial artist hides behind a wall.
The best sharp shooter is extremely unfit and slow, the martial artist out runs him and escapes. Or simply gets the drop on him.

Don't play with zero terrain idiot.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Dakka bots are MVPs, neutron lasers are pretty good, dragoons are great, the electropriests are great, take your Skitarri infantry in small squads. Breachers are shit, ruststalkers are shit, datasmiths are unnecessary, infiltrators are mostly shit. Get lots of command points because we have lots of good(pricy) strategems. Mars, stygies VIII and lucius are the best forge worlds.

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TreeEater
TreeEater

Inquisitors using imperial assets IS adhering to lore, giving them their own Codex was always dumb.

Same with Grey Knights.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Ok, place 150 boyz across the field from 30 fire warriors next to a fire blade, 20 marker drones, a stormsurge and a ghostkeel and tell me how they do getting across the field

Snarelure
Snarelure

You appear to be mistaken.
Dark Eldar are either Trueborn or Vatborn.
Everyone else is what we call mongrel spawn or living refuse. Being Dark Eldar is a prerequisite of being true born.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

my faction
Nah, not mine. I just remember that the game used to give them options, but I guess that was before your time.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Wouldn't the boyz actually win?

FastChef
FastChef

I unironically think Tau should ignore the enemy's armor save during melee. And use the enemy's WS while doing so as well. This is an interesting and balanced solution.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

not the same guy you replied to, but do tell. its been a long time sence ive read any inquisition fluff stuffs.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Are the skittles in Forgebane monopose or snapfit and shit?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Fuck no

Illusionz
Illusionz

due to some reason
Basically because the judge ruled that for the IP of a particular model to be recognizable, there had to be an actual model and not just some text of it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

encourages/forces is prettymuch the same thing desu

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I want to run an army with a strong core of banana bois being supported by some imperial friends. For now I have a 1000pts battalion - 3 bike captains and 3x 3 Custodian guard with spears and daggers

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Ooh we're including other units now? Well lets give the boyz higher numbers to get on equal points cost to the Tau, then have a weirdboy zap them across the field

5mileys
5mileys

there isnt a codex inquisition, but there has been codex's for 2 of the 3 major inquisition factions.
Ordo Malleus
Grey Knights (aka Daemon hunters)
Ordo Hereticus
Adeptus Sororitas (aka Witch Hunters)
Ordo Xenos
Deathwatch
not to mention different inquisitors of different choices. There are a lot of books about different inquisitors/factions, most notably Ravenor and Eisenhorn.

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w8t4u
w8t4u

Is that equal points?

I mean you ignore all the ways they can get into close combat, and the army buffs. Like you pull all these tau unit types out your ass but only boyz.

askme
askme

Anti-ork shitposters are the worst thing about these threads

Inmate
Inmate

Fuck chapterhouse, because of them I can't run my Doom of Malan'tai

Playboyize
Playboyize

3 bike captains

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Because boyz are literally the only viable thing in the entire army

Methnerd
Methnerd

Ok, but only if they roll doubles on their charge range.
Like, these double 9s!

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

3 bike captains and 3x 3 Custodian guard with spears and daggers
go away

Emberfire
Emberfire

wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Siege_of_Vraks

Heretics summoned most powerfull blodthirster, one that stands before Khorne's throne. Inquisitor Hector Rex duelled the daemon(after it killed some Grey Knights) and banished it.

StonedTime
StonedTime

So why wouldn't you buff them, the tau are getting buffs and have big suits even

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Spend 1CP to put Tantalus in deepstrike to avoid alpha strike with MSU Dark Creed Wracks and Haemonculus
Drop where ever the enemy has characters you want dead, spend 2CP to snipe, or don't I don't care
Make a charge at something and mortal wound it, protecting from the shoots, or don't whatever

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Why doesn't battlescribe mobile have a copy-list function? If I build a 2k point list and want to increase it to 2.5k by just adding to it while keeping the current 2k list, I should be able to do it without manually going in and making an entire new list and copying unit-by-unit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Easy Anons - that's for "real" games. For casual fun I'm swapping bikes for termie captains

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Is there even a single character in 40k that is more of a Chad than Hector motherfucking Rex?

born human but bioengineered into astartes-level physique
dedicates his life to fighting chaos
becomes Lord-Inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus
so many titles none can even remember them all
commanded the Grey Knights and got rewarded by them
has an audience with the Emperor himself
wears fucking Artificer armor with a stormshield
has those silvery locks that all the ladies love

Is he a sensei or something? How is one man so alpha?

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

IG Comany Comander CP artist and literally any amout of troops. This is invaluable to cuss toads.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

If a model with a pistol shoots during the fight phase does that attack go towards that models total number of attacks?
Example
2 attacks-1(pistol)= 1 attack during fight phase

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Because GW cant play nice, and wont make things they have in lore or games.

Remember when GW sued a children's book author because GW thought they owned the copyright to the word 'Space Marine'.

Old GW was by far one of the dumbest running companies in the world. Only outmatched by EA and Konami.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

one unit against combined arms
open field
What kind of boring ass games do you play where flat tables are ever a thing?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

In 3rd editoin Hereticus and Malleus were in codex Witchhunters and Daemonhunters. Inquisitors, their forces(stormtroopers and acolytes)+chamber militant(SoB, GK)

Soft_member
Soft_member

shoots during the fight phase
user, I...

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Who does tge FW art abd wht arent they doing all the art?

takes2long
takes2long

Wasn't the Doom just rolled into the Zoanthrope mutation?

likme
likme

well, id focus on what exsactly your list so far is lacking, which seems like it might be reliable ranged anti tank, and with imperium you have plenty of options for that.

also, maybe more bodys/units, when i play my gaurd i like to bring alot of boys so that my enemy has to decide where hes gonna sink shots into.

any of that sound usefull so far? desu it seems like bananna armies just get focusfired to death or bogged down in tar pits. so maybe bring some stuff to help out with that.

Techpill
Techpill

Do we need abilities thay remove invuln saves from terminators storm shields or auras from aura hqs?
There are, and that's a good thing.

TreeEater
TreeEater

pistol shoots during the fight phase
What ?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

tau could be balance getting the -1 by making it units without fly. it however falls into ONLY FIREWARRIORS ALL THE TIME

Snarelure
Snarelure

Do you feel in charge?

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SniperGod
SniperGod

Siege of Vraks before Rex
DoK grinder, no big progress in years
Siege of Vraks after Rex arrived
Real shit, daemonic incursion holded, CSm and renegades rekt, Imperial Victory

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

tfw GW decides to be even more jewish and reduces the point costs of all units across the board
2k armies go from typically having 30-50 models in them to something like 50-70
model prices don't change whatsoever, and everyone is forced to buy more shit

I hope it happens

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SniperWish
SniperWish

It’s never to early to start thinking about the holidays, anons. What would you get Lelith for Commorragh-mas?

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It shoots the pistols during the shooting phase.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

He's a big Lord Inquisitor

FastChef
FastChef

yep, still have my 3rd edition witch hunters codex, but dont have my daemonhunters codex anymore. While GK got updated codex's in 5th and later, SoB hasnt had a codex since 3rd.

Deathwatch didnt get an actual codex until 7th edition.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Every point you spend on something that isnt boyz/weirdboyz just makes your army worse

Illusionz
Illusionz

pregnant

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Mork an Gork are da bestest, deys WAY more kunnin' den Gork an Mork

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

T'au players misdirecting hate towards others armies yet again
First guard, then space wolves and now orkz a new low might I say

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I would run 3

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The D.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

If they want to keep the single shot, which is valid, then the damage output needs to be improved massively. Consider that hitting, wounding and getting past saves is already a less-than-even chance versus a regular tank statline -- if it actually gets there, it needs to do some massive damage, not this "d3 MWs on 6s to wound" weaksauce. I'm gonna do some mathhammer later, but I unironically think 2d6 or 3d3 damage while keeping everything else the same would be balanced.

That, or just give them Grinding Advance. After Fire Prisms got it I thought it'd be standard on all MBTs, especially since the same dude that came up with it in the Guard Codex wrote the Tau Codex, but that's the way it is.

King_Martha
King_Martha

forced
The only thing forced would be a 1500 point standard.

Spamalot
Spamalot

I meant shooting phase... so I guess not.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

LOL ORKS, BRAH. SO FUNNY

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

How's this for an Ork Trait/Strat?

"DakkaDakkaDakkaHAHAHA"
Ork units with this trait/pick an Ork unit in your army. Double the number of shots of any non-auto-hit ranged weapon carried by this unit in this shooting phase but may only hit on a roll of 6 and may not receive a re-roll to hit by any means for these shots.

I thought it would fit as Orks generally don't aim and so the player can decide to gamble at more possible hits and when your opponent has abilities that lower BS, it's not like they would have effected their shooting much anyway.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

They really should let you shoot during the fight phase.

askme
askme

a codex army which has more points beats an index army which has less
Really makes you think.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Exterminatus

Methnerd
Methnerd

Is Adeptus Mechanicus Tech-Jews?

TreeEater
TreeEater

tau could be balance getting the -1 by making it units without fly. it however falls into ONLY FIREWARRIORS ALL THE TIME
My only gripe with DAL'YTH is the no move penalty. If it was so long as you didn't ADVANCE you got cover it would be better.

It just encourages passive gameplay.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Being shit at melee but fantastic at shooting is the Tau's whole schtick. Being great at melee and having inaccurate shooting made up for massive volume of fire is the Ork's idea.

Snarelure
Snarelure

just as bad or worse
No hate was misdirected. Just adding one more archetype to whingetards. Not even a tau player btw

Emberburn
Emberburn

This is how Gorkamorka started

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

They are the multipart kit

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

double your shots of auto hit weapons that only hit on 6s

So... flamers shoot twice but only hit on 6s?

Also that's just straight retarded if it's not flamers.
halve your shots but double your shots, also ignore all -1 hit modifiers
Fucking broken user, especially for anything that's hitting on 6s already.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

this is how all ork conflicts started

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

On the one hand I'm sure theres better ways to balance this. On the other hand I do love the potential narrative behind it, where to be clever, someone pulls a bunch of negatives to BS effectively ruining their shooting, and the ork player just decides FUCK YOU, MORE BULLETS.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

implying guard players and space wolves lore aren't hateable on their own merits
loveing every laff

Spamalot
Spamalot

but you also want to give the martial artist 2 uzis to empty as he runs at the guy that shoots clay frisbes for fun

5mileys
5mileys

This is a game where a green retard with a rusty piece of metal on a stick hits harder than semiautomatic RPGs.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I think we're all forgetting the true enemy here, Eldar

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askme
askme

So you want orks to be great at melee...
and shooting that's shit but made up for massive volume of fire?
With no downsides that ignore all negative modifiers?

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Methshot
Methshot

The two variants of Stabilizer Systems are pretty much slight alterations to Grinding Advance, minus the extra shot. I didn't think about it but just straight up bringing grinding advance over would be pretty good. I personally wouldn't want them to upgrade the damage too much, mainly because if they do, they'd be somewhat obligated to upgrade the damage on the other Railguns (Supremacy Railgun, Heavy Rail Rifle, etc) to bring them all in line with eachother, and they might end up being too strong because of that.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

While that is true and hilarious, its still gonna take time for the green retard to get over to the dude with the rockets.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No god needed, they will just destroy each other in the end

Evilember
Evilember

going to have to disagree with you there. All ork fights start over who is da boss.

only bosses fight over who is more important. gork and mork, or mork and gork.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Buffing your horde of boyz with other guys will reap a higher benefit than buying that amount of extra boyz you'd get for the same price

TechHater
TechHater

I just want to play a shooty ork army that doesn't get invalidated by half the armies in the game by being literally unable to hit

eGremlin
eGremlin

Latest sisters news
warhammer-community.com/2018/03/28/plastic-sisters-sooner-than-expected/
What was this? the link has 404d. Have I been trick'd?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Wasn't the Duke turned into a relic for dark eldars back in 6th?
Not that user but it ain't the same when you lose a character with story and a face and turned into a shadow of itself

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

objectively untrue

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

that guy who roots for the alien and screeches at the imperium, wanting humanity to die out
user...

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Yes

whereismyname
whereismyname

Space Marauder update:
Space Marauder volume.3 starts tomorrow, since my post-exam plans have been thoroughly cancelled...

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Das sum pretty kunnin finkin. Das why yooz da boss.
....so wich is betta? Gork n Mork, or Mork n Gork?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Read it again chappy, I said NON-autohit weapons.

And I'm sure it needs tweaking in order to be balanced. Actually the entire shooting system has to be changed to make it impossible to have impossible shots. They changed the wounding system to allow for lucky wounds, why not lucky hits?

Maybe just a generic, "This unit is not effected by negative shooting modifiers" I just wanted to see if I could think of something that wasn't that.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I want to play my way with a one trick pony
You're just hurting yourself really.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

yes, you have.

all we have been told is that sisters will release in 2019.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I think we won’t see an ork codex untill around November, when Geedubbs decides it needs another box game to never update and gives us a modern version of gorkkamorkka

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

What are best Xenos RIGHT NOW to jump into 40k with?

I only know the HH books and don’t want to start with any Space Marines or Imperium.

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5mileys
5mileys

ask 5 different GW fluff writers what a bolter shoots and youre gonna get 5 different answers

takes2long
takes2long

I just want to play a shooty ork army
Well there is your problem.

Playboyize
Playboyize

I can imagine thats pretty unforgivable with dark eldar, because they're all people in their own right, but Tyranids its kinda the one exception that I would let slide, considering their thing is to reabsorb the bioforms back into the hive and modify the capabilities of the army as a whole. Some hive fleet finally getting hold of the doom and using its fucked up genome to modify the zoanthropes actually makes sense.

Techpill
Techpill

What are best Xenos RIGHT NOW to jump into 40k with?
Dark Eldar.

Snarelure
Snarelure

shooty ork army
Might as well say you want to play melee tau, because they're both equally retarded

Skullbone
Skullbone

not really
A weirdboy is the only good option
A painboy will save less boyz on average than just buying his points on more boyz

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Necrons

Emberburn
Emberburn

This is true. They try to slip under the radar and then BAM, Dark Reaper suppository.

this

SniperGod
SniperGod

Get some of these boys. I hear they've got three eyes or something but they're good if you're looking for a lot of deepstriking and plasma BBQ.

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Is being a Daemonfag true suffering

Never win on your own
Never have stories about you
Always there to be grunts or to show off how awesome someone else is

At least we broke Cadia along with the Guard

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StonedTime
StonedTime

that pic
Are the any examples of black eldar in lore?

TechHater
TechHater

pic
I thought the necrons were the we wuz army .

eGremlin
eGremlin

Welcome.

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FastChef
FastChef

Tyranids are decently strong, but not bullshit unless you're trying to make them bullshit.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

The Imperium's humanity has nothing to do with today's humanity and there is zero reason to take their side because of species loyalty.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

He doesn't want stronger and more dangerous antagonists, so the light of the Imperium shines ever brighter against the coming darkness.
What are you, some kind of heretic?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Anybody got necron battlefoam? I've never bought anything from them but now that I've got my forgebane the wraiths and stuff seem pretty fragile

Nojokur
Nojokur

The True Kin

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This goes back to the heart of the issue

ranged is objectively better than melee, so an army that only shoots will always be better than an army that only melees

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

delicous chocolate aeldari
POAST
MOAR
NAO

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

xenos

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Why is it always that weird overly serious face when someone makes a character character black.
Even more pathetic how often it's profile.

Why can't they make them look like they're having fun or something, why does it look likes it's some "powaful" statement?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Like, price point, ease of play, ease of paint, versatility? Specify, dood.

King_Martha
King_Martha

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girlDog
girlDog

Because you're the antagonist of the setting, a manifestation of the ruinous powers. Shouldn't even be playable. What kind of stories do you want? It would be the edgiest cringefest ever.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I dont see why there wouldnt be. Humans come in different colors so why not eldar. theres black vulcans ffs

viagrandad
viagrandad

autistic marauder spam

cum2soon
cum2soon

No

likme
likme

Never have stories about you
Kind of a consequence of having so few individuals with personalities. With the guard you can tell a story from the perspective of Private Bumblefuck, with marines you can tell a story from the perspective of Brother Bumblefuck, and so on. But with daemons you're pretty much limited to heralds and greater daemons for dudes you can do a POV of.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

You are assigning human attributes to an alien species.

Snarelure
Snarelure

cheer up kaos, at least you have material for some wicked burns when you fight cadia regiments.

Hey sgt, hows the wife and kids?

Evilember
Evilember

Well in Just That One case, CW Eldar don't do fun.
I can't comment on your statement as a whole, because I don't know enough.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Not every species tans like humans do though, so saying "humans do it so therefore eldar should too" is extremely bad logic.
I'm talking about lore examples, not retarded extrapolation comparing a naturally evolving species to a genetically engineered one
theres black vulcans ffs
Ok, and? They're from a completely different setting and aren't eldar

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

UUUU

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What would you rather be doing, buffing 150 boyz with Ghazkull for 215 pts to give each one of them an extra attack
or
spending those points to buy 35 boyz extra

150 extra attacks vs ~107 extra attacks

Or a nob with waaagh banner for hitting on 2s for 79pts
vs
13 more boyz

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What kind of stories do you want? It would be the edgiest cringefest ever

A Lord of Change sees something really troubling and has to build an army with the other god's help and has to prove himself worthy to them then struggles to keep the armies of the different gods together?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

You could just ignore me then, that's what I'd do.

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Why would perfect looking beings be black?

inb4 racism
I'm not saying their Caucasian, they have like perfectly sculpted bodies and faces to a disgusting degree, wouldn't make sense they have skin mutations.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Kind of a consequence of having so few individuals with personalities.
I enjoy npt having POVs of Daemons they're supposed to be unknowable and of other morality and not just sp00py xenos / humans from another dimension.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I think I'll just bitch and moan rather than taking any steps to remedy the problem

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

is it your first army? then necrons

if you already know the game and play imperium and want to try out a new army? then either necrons, eldar or tau.

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Wouldn't happen.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Banshees have mommy fun.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I was under the impression that daemons of different gods didnt work in the same army under single leadership, and that whenever they appear together its just because "fuck you I'm just here anyway."
Also what troubles a shard of the god of all knowledge?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Considering they're alien, they wouldn't follow the same rules as humans in that sense so whats a mutation for us could be standard for them

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

A Lord of Change sees something really troubling and has to build an army with the other god's help and has to prove himself worthy to them then struggles to keep the armies of the different gods together?
Shit / 10.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Or you could do it like that one Alpha Legion book IIRC and have it be a cultist who has to learn about them and do rituals while dodging the police and then summons in an army and we see from his POV what they're like how they fight etc. Like nulls see them as slabs of meat and blood from the sacrifice that brought them into the world, it'd be interesting to see how humans react to them

happy_sad
happy_sad

guard players and space wolves lore
hateable
Only if you're a chaos fag who always get shit on, against everyone else is eternal stalemate or meaningless victories but then again
Implying you aren't either a chaos click or a t'''''''''au fag

askme
askme

7 feet tall often semi robotized supersoldatens with a dozen or more organs that people dont even have derived from an even greater ubersoldier derived from a god
human

k

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Go back to /aco/

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

buffing 150 boyz with Ghazkull
i think you need to re read the rules..

Techpill
Techpill

who would win in a fight between Tempestus Scionanon or Marauder shitpostus?

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Evilember
Evilember

I hope the artist just wanted the dark skin and not a we wuz eldar

SniperGod
SniperGod

There are reasons besides "species loyalty", and the humans of the Imperium are in large part the same as you and I although in different circumstances.

The Astartes are the super soldiers of the Imperium who live and die for mankind. Either way, they're not what we're talking about.

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Why does everyone hate the guard all of a sudden? Did they win a tournament or something?

RavySnake
RavySnake

I was under the impression that daemons of different gods didnt work in the same army under single leadership

You could just have it be they come for their own motives and refuse to work together but it's the Lord of Change's plan

Also what troubles a shard of the god of all knowledge?

There's a story in the Daemon's codex about how a Lord of Change sees an impossibly strong psyker baby being born so he invades the planet to absorb his power. You could easily just do something where he sees a human who'll grow up to be a great general and knows he needs to kill him

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Not him but keep doing what you're doing, I enjoy it.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

seen that they're typically porceline white
but they can be randomly black as a standard?
even though they don't do mutations and they all look the same

Just doesn't make sense.

TechHater
TechHater

Fine you win this round.
Because players obviously don't screen said units.
Besides, some ork units rely on shooting as their primary means of dealing damage. Should picking them just be autolose?
See above. Orks have shooty units. It's like if a shooty army had dedicated melee units which were literally rendered useless by common special rules.
someone said "faggot" on Veeky Forums
You have to go back.
Besides, if I spend a load of points on ranged units/weapons, they should at least have a chance of hitting.
I don't have a problem with -1 to hit in general as a means to improve a unit's survivability. I have a problem when said unit is literally untouchable in my shooting phase.
I play for fun. Having the majority of my ranged weapons and a fair few units be completely ineffective isn't fun.
I'd like my army to have more to it than boyz and buffing boyz.

I don't want orks to be immune to modifiers. I don't want orks to receive a shooting buff which no-one else gets. I just want everyone's shooting to hit on a 6+ minimum.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

We are many user. How could one compare?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I really don't, you only need to have 1 model from the unit within his bubble so you can daisy chain the buff for the larger blobs

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

These are strangely amusing. Keep posting.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

That's a white man though.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

They’re getting their just desserts after years of being the truly cancerous players in 40k but throwing it on other factions.

Booteefool
Booteefool

all these people who are too young to remember kan wall with shoota boyz and lootas

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

t. Argentina

Soft_member
Soft_member

FUCK
WHERE DO I GET RIGHT-HANDED CHAINSWORDS
I desperately need them for melee-only zerkers

happy_sad
happy_sad

thats not going to work in practice

5mileys
5mileys

What did the orks roll to hit on?

Bidwell
Bidwell

The only problem is that because daemons are all timeless, psychically manifested warp entities, there isn't really much in the way of narrative construction going on that would build it as an approachable story. Its generally why daemonic incursions are more referenced as an outsider review than from the perspective of daemons, because they don't have observable processes that could say "and then bird-face the lord of change went and asked skull-skuller the skullulous for help killing that one human dude".
Warp just does shit.

iluvmen
iluvmen

it is, it has and it does.
It's even been filmed in battle reports.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

you keep using this strawman to push shit plz go

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The chaos space marines kit?

Methnerd
Methnerd

you take them from the dead hands of assault marines.

TreeEater
TreeEater

It's to balance Elite armies
Mmhmm, not being able to actually fire at Eldar fliers is one way to never be killed I guess.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Cut off the weapons and attach them to the right hands.

Evilember
Evilember

A Lord of Change sees something really troubling and has to build an army with the other god's help and has to prove himself worthy to them then struggles to keep the armies of the different gods together?
Pretty terrible.
If I HAD to make a Daemon POV (and I wouldn't want to) I'd focus more on a Lesser Daemon becoming a Herald going from:

Lesser Daemons are slaves to the will of their master, little more than extensions of the mind and will of the Chaos God they serve

To having more autonomy/self

Firespawn
Firespawn

Which means a bunch of boyz don't even get to attack, in practicality.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

All salamanders are Caucasian they just have burnt skin due to their planet.

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RavySnake
RavySnake

any one ever tell you your an ornery fella?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

An invuln save in CC that isn't attached to characters would be cool.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

all left handed
FUCK THAT COULD WORK THANK YOU

DeathDog
DeathDog

I've collected a bit of reactions, I have an almost 50/50 hate love relationship with these threads.
I don't hate Scionanon, at least I don't hate you enough for a fight.
I just kinda dislike your tacticool force and those tits you keep posting could break a fucking warlord titans back joints, triggers my chaotic retardation, but I also love the content possibilities you offer.

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TechHater
TechHater

A half Eldar child, courtesy of me. Alternatively, a new set of blades and a competent lore writer since they put her on drugs for some reason.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Take a wild fucking guess.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

From what I've seen it's mostly that they were super obnoxious about their OP Codex when it came out and they've remained top tier while furiously denying it and saying that it's just that Guard players are intrinsically better. Then there's stereotypes like pic related.

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Nah, it'll be Space Wolves, Dark Angels, then GSC

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

If mutations were to be taken into consideration, craftworlders and kabalites WOULD be porcelain white, due to the fact that they're all essentially voidborne with no natural exposure to sunlight, and as such, no need for excessive melanin production.
Now Exodites I could see having some colour variation to them, and I would be all for seeing some diversity in exodites, because that kinda makes sense.
Its also important to take into consideration that they're all engineered bioweapons, because the old ones made them, so they're probably so genetically perfect that mutations dont exist and inbreeding isnt a concern.
Although its probably just a good idea to wave your hands and say "because kelly and goodwin didnt want black eldars"

Nojokur
Nojokur

All salamanders are Caucasian
I'm sure not ALL salamanders are not-black, even other chapters have black marines.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

new HQ - deff dread with fixed loadout

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

need to jump through hoops to get the buffs that actually stop all shooting
meanwhile the rest of the army is targetable
can't shoot them though

I've never had a problem against eldar stacking -1 to hit. Hell the -1 army wide is way more powerful than the single unit that can't be shot.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Is it more progressive to have negros, or white men turned INTO negros? Trans negros, if you will. Think about it!

MPmaster
MPmaster

The only black marine I remember was the nig from the blood ravens

Spamalot
Spamalot

Commoragh welcomes safe drivers

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viagrandad
viagrandad

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idontknow
idontknow

When we're talking 150 boyz, you couldn't fit in that many boyz into range to attack in the first place

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Best part about this image being posted is knowing it came from this one.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

well Marauder Shitpostus and Tempestus Scionanon can roll it off, see who is the superior shitposter currently.

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

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Methshot
Methshot

To be fair the basic Guardsman needs an updated box.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

perkele?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I'd like my army to have more to it than boyz and buffing boyz.
Why did you pick orks then?

Emberfire
Emberfire

You could against enough units. Stop being silly.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Jonah made Tigurius look like a little bitch.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I'm just saying they don't do mutations.
So unless black is the standard they're not black. We've seen they're white before.

Also exodites are still neets just like normal eldar. They have to use their advanced tech to do work for them instead of nothing at all I guess. They're not exactly tilling the fields.

Go ahead and your dudes it tho. Exodites can be whatever, hell you can say are black as natural camoflauge in the jungle.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Literally why don't guard players just use third-party troop?

RumChicken
RumChicken

;_:

Daemons do have personalities though, we know they mock Daemon Princes for not being real daemons, Great Unclean Ones are kind and joke all the time etc. You're restricted to what kind of personality a daemon has, like with a daemon of Khorne he has to be angry and bloodthirsty etc. But all races are like that to some extent, Dark Eldar are all egotistical, arrogant, ambitious etc. But the Path of the Dark Eldar books are great. Daemons are so unique and strange I really think someone could make a really excellent daemon centric book and not just have them tacked on to a Chaos Space Marine novel. But they don't really sell so and I'm sure the Space Marines could use a couple more novels.

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TechHater
TechHater

Because I started orks in 4th back when speed freeks were viable.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I have a feeling Dalyth is a sign GW knows -1 was a mistake

JunkTop
JunkTop

I want to do an off-white power armour scheme
Does anyone have examples of this to show me? Or thoughts on how to execute it

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Well exodites do live on planets. I figured that the literal thousands - millions of years that they've been planetside would potentially give them some kind of tan.
But if we're sticking with no mutations, then how one eldar looks is how all eldar looks.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Ta'''''u fags salty because guard players actually paint their armies and are capable of playing non waac armies unlike their grey legions of inner suits and like to pretend people that actually engage the hobby are cancer just look at

whereismyname
whereismyname

Hi doggy
Will do, Volume 3 will begin tomorrow and I'll make some new edits too if I feel like it, at the moment I still have a history exam coming up tomorrow, so no time to make edit stuff, just enough to shitpost with old ones tho.

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Warp talons/ raptors kit, if you make warp talons you are left with a ton of great looking chainswords for both hands.

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

A CUTE

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It would remove a lot of mystery from it.

Probably best to stick to daemonhost dilemmas and such.

Booteefool
Booteefool

They have a very varied army list, you'd think that GW could make more than one unit and it's extensions viable choices
They probably will with the codex look out for Nobz in the future lads

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Prime white, battle damage with dirge

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girlDog
girlDog

But if we're sticking with no mutations, then how one eldar looks is how all eldar looks.
Basically.
Unless they face sculpt.so

5mileys
5mileys

Like the Deathwing's bone white or what were you thinking?

idontknow
idontknow

Interesting, according to this, the II and XI legions were wiped out sometime after Horus becomes the Warmaster.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Vittu saatana indeed.
I confessed the spurdorg thing a while back, or was it the finnish word and the way I sometimes write things wrong?
Oh wait...

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Something along those lines, yeah

Techpill
Techpill

It would remove a lot of mystery from it.

Honestly I feel like Daemons losing so often and being such a D-tier race that just does CSM's dirty work has already removed their mystery

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

The daemons tend to only really have personalities when interacting with those that are generally mortal or physically bound in nature. Its how we know what they're like. Because from daemon to daemon, they're basically different flavours of warp-blob.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

filename is what gave it away

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

what do you think of my list?

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

salamanders have a unique Aesthetic
don't have any upgrade kits or similar

All the base marine kits have Roman-esque stuff for the smurfs, BA, DA, and Space Yiffs have their own kits, and chapters like Black Templars have upgrade kits.

Salamanders just get fucked.

FastChef
FastChef

Come for discussion of DE previews
Taufags, Orkfags, and IGfags shitting everywhere
mfw I cant wait to raid these scum

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

read that as white power scheme
Not today I guess...

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Well what paint would you recommend for that?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

What faction is the most fun to raid?

Lunatick
Lunatick

I don’t play T’au, you fucking overhead projector.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Probably more dakka than you need and might get boring. Also you better get a regimental standard for one of your command squads you fagiolo. Gotta represent.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Tau, they are so naive.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Guard.
m-muh hold the line
Can’t hold a line that doesn’t exist after 3 seconds, buddy.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I feel something needs to be done about eldar's retarded dildo helmets. Eldar should have wild, free flowing 80's hair metal hair. Their helmets make them look like incredible dorks.

Skullbone
Skullbone

NEW THRED NOW

Firespawn
Firespawn

Tau.
Got to keep our diplomatic relationships up ;)

P.S. Tau, we have more slots open in our "culture exchange" program. We'd love to learn more about this "Greater Good" you got going on.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Can't wait for Deathwatch Codex. DE will be a lot of fun to play against.

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StonedTime
StonedTime

sisters for T H I C C reasons

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

not dildo, if anything they resemble buttplugs or bullets
not the shooting kind

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

NEW THRED NOW
page 5
fuck off

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Guard and Tau
Tasty cattle and Blue cattle

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whereismyname
whereismyname

Grey build up with pure white edge highlights
Light cool colors or dark warm colors to compliment but not cause discord. Black for a grounding color.

If you do warm maybe use more browns as neutrals, if cool do more bluish greys as neutrals. Unless of course you want the colors to stand out from the neutrals you can flip those around.

But if white is your main focus you probably want good blending neutrals with your compliment. If anything your probably want something that builds slowly off white, while the compliments build slowly off the neutrals.

Nojokur
Nojokur

boring? boring how?
also, those command squads are disposable assets, they don't need or deserve a standard.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

What they need is pimpcoats.

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

go meet the 5th expansionists they love non tau and will tell you all about their greater good

King_Martha
King_Martha

They need leather jackets again.

askme
askme

the helmet just makes me think they are lackluster playa's

Methshot
Methshot

I was just thinking of how it would be great if one of my friends starting playing Deathwatch to go up against my Drukhari, would be a good match up indeed.

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Emberburn
Emberburn

seriously, how can anyone take you seriously while wearing that helmet?

Its like staring into a sun made of ridiculous.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Are DE taller or shorter than humans?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Another think to hate about Guardfags: they think anyone who dislikes them is falseflagging or projecting or trying to deflect. No you idiot, you're just an asshole.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You call that a helmet peasant?

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I feel like cp needs a smaller break number. So stuff that's amazing that costs 1cp isn't as expensive as some minor buff that is also 1 cp.

Like a half cp. Or an sub command point that 3 equal 1 cp.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I just hope they give some kind of chapter tactics or drop the PPM and fix a lot of fuckups they have in the index. Chaplains cant take a power fist or jump pack. CA gave us the option to take Librarians with jump packs, but still cant take storm shields. only primaris worth taking is hellblasters.

cant buy special weapon packs, and DW kits only come with 2 heavy bolter infernus and 2 frag cannons. infernus is stupidly overpriced, and frag cannon could use a price drop, 49 points per model is hell.

I love my deathwatch army, but man is it brutal to make a decent 2k list.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I see, well it's kind of an part of it, I mostly do it to hide from the shame of my only edit that ever went into the.. uuuh.. someone posted these to facebook, I just kinda made them one morning while I was very bored.

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Does she have fucking carapace on her stomach or something?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

boring? boring how?
You'll melt everything with cheap firepower and you have no characters or psykers for shenanigans. Maybe at least consider a super-heavy so you've got a centerpiece for your army.

Also they're doing most of the heavy lifting you kiddyfiddling dingus, they deserve the most splendid regimental standard to die by. It'll make your army look cool and set apart the Scion elite from the special weapon scrubs and their 4+ BS.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I want my Tau painted black to wear 13 loco and 8 ball decals

Soft_member
Soft_member

Thats the problem witb Taufags, they pretend that everyone of them that complains is baiting.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Taller

farquit
farquit

You really need to stop staring at the sun my dude.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

4th sphere are the nazis.

askme
askme

They have longer limbs so I assume they're taller.

They possess longer and cleaner limbs, and fine ascetic features with penetrating and slightly slanted, almond-shaped eyes. Their ears are also slightly pointed, but otherwise they could pass as human at first glance. The most obvious difference between humans and Eldar can only be seen when they move, for the movements of an Eldar radiate a subtle grace which is impossible for a human to emulate.

Inmate
Inmate

Why don't the eldar use psychically empowered armor? It'd be a cool mechanic too. Take up a psychic phase to roll for its activation and choose +1 to a stat for the turn with a chance of killing yourself if warp shenanigans.

likme
likme

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Methnerd
Methnerd

They're as tall as armored space marines

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Hey there!
Im In the proces of getting DG army.
I have:
Lord of Contaigion, Wizzard, Bell dude, 20 poxwalkers, 14 plauge marines, Hellbrute, 2 Bloat drones, Rhino, 20 Cultists, gardener of Nurgle on that awesome Slime, start colecting Nurgle Demons and pic realated that will work as my GD or gigant spawn.
How to expand? I also try to gather parts for my conversion of GD but other than that Im not sure what to get next since I have quite hafty force.
Do DG tanks are worth their plastic? I like Crawler and cute ticks, old and boring pred is old and boring.

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Jump through hoops
You mean being a flier, and existing more than 12" away from the firing unit?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Test scheme for future girls
I don't know what colour to make the underpants on the helmet (black is the obvious thought but it makes her look like batman) or what shade the trims should really be.
And no, its not just straight up white

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Flameblow
Flameblow

Did Eldar ever wear leather jackets? Not really the kind of clothes I would associate with them.

StonedTime
StonedTime

So how salty was everyone when that reveal happened?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Well both of the two bret players on the planet were upset, everyone else didn't notice

MPmaster
MPmaster

can't take predators for lascannons
their dreads have fewer weapon options than SM dreads
would have to get FWs resinshit and Primaris
just running heavy-weapon kill teams gets them slaughtered
GW really didn't think it through.

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

The only thing good about end times was Vermintide

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

So duncan aaaaaaand?

Playboyize
Playboyize

a pretty solid look, maybe a bit less white?

Techpill
Techpill

I'm one of them, can confirm, I was mad

Snarelure
Snarelure

Steve from my store.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'll show you my final form.

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Found him already.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Well, if both of them are unarmed, the martial artist obviously.

In any other situation the one with a gun.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I'm actually Steve from that anons store

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

back when 40k was a different game

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

That was Steve, you numbnuts.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

the covens were mostly disappointing IMO, though I think I'll use circle of 12 for my coven stuff.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Second Bretplayer here. Was upset.
What was worse is Tomb Kings were my second army.

Illusionz
Illusionz

less white how? I mean, I intend to do that but I'm just not sure what direction to take it in
More bone-y? More.. something else-y?

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

heard aqua elves were going to be a thing
hope for merfolk miniatures
get elves and flying sharks

I only serve to hurt myself sometimes

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Holy shit user, mine too!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Oooh no oh no oh no. I’m sorry user.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

So Duncan does post here, how was the operation?

Inmate
Inmate

I mean it's pretty unique, should lead to fun models.

likme
likme

Pretend I'm autistic and want to use the old bretonian models, could I run them as Empire?

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Methshot
Methshot

Probably yeah

TreeEater
TreeEater

We can't get TOO original stuff from GW now can we? They got a reputation to uphold!!

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'm not sure why wouldn't GW give certain HQs -lie Vect - a new model. I mean I'm pretty sure every DE players gonna buy one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

the boobplates maybe black to make it look more like a corset and make the white somewhat bone-y.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Yeah have to pay to be a flimsy flier and all other units that ignore fliers -1 hurt them. And not all eldar are fliers, you can still shoot the other shit.

Evilember
Evilember

They have rules for AoS just no lore.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Is there a way to make rubric marines good? I want to take a bunch of wizards with flamethrowers but I just can't see how to possibly make it efficient when I could just be spamming doritonauts and tzaangors.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

They still wear leather jackets user. All the bikers wore it and only vehicle drivers wear it now.

Clown leather was basically what eldar used to loom like.

FastChef
FastChef

That looks fucking dope ngl

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Eldar Fliers are flimsy
Not when you have a -2 to hit they aren't! Also, that's true, but the -1 to hit, and every aspect that's worth it having terminator saves in cover, along with stackable buff spells makes them impossible to displace

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Merfolk
Original

Deepkin are better than shitty mermaids.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Take them as allied Alpha legion berserkers

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

This, was hoping for cool conversions.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

A third bret player here who only played fantasy because of brettonians, and quit fantasy when they were brettconned.

I was ambivilant, but annoyed.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

thinking of running grey knights with my admech, could it be true that grey knights are as dogshit as everyone says user?

takes2long
takes2long

Sigmar.

askme
askme

Well he convinced one of the C'tan to eat most of it's kin so I'm pretty sure he can sweet-talk those two chucklefucks into beating each other into a pulp.

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Inmate
Inmate

PBCs are one of the most resilient units in the game for their points. I would highly recommend picking up 1-2. Make sure to magnetize them, spitters are the best load out but you can also run them with cannons if you really need the AT.

Playboyize
Playboyize

What if bretonnia comes back? As undead bretonnia.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Was thinking of getting some mortis contemptor dreads as a heavy-support more fitting a largely infantry-based army.

Any ideas as to make them remind me less of Dr Eggman?

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Evilember
Evilember

everyone expected cthulhu dark elves/eldar, that sneak onto the shore on moonless nights to rape and pillage.

instead they got finding nemo, happy, bright, chinese, high elves.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Mfw people complain about how the basic CSM kit is old and goofy but you actually like them for being old and goofy
They seem to be so fun to paint and convert. Thanks to their age you can actually kitbash anything out of them. I would buy a start collecting box to play Kill Team but I'm not even sure if I helbrute will get rules - probably not

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

eldar aren't flimsy when you add -1 To hit
yeah that's why they have it

terminator saves in cover
stackable buffs

You know armor and buffs is kind of their thing right? You throw armor piercing and buff stopping at them and they're fucked.

The wombo combo is strong but counterable. Theyre basically the biggest what if army, a lot of people see their ultimate end game form and freak out because they think they're always like that.

StonedTime
StonedTime

chinese

What?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

everyone expected cthulhu dark elves/eldar, that sneak onto the shore on moonless nights to rape and pillage
By everyone you mean you and you?

FastChef
FastChef

I want them to come back mashed with the Tomb Kings, two kings that both lost their land empires running a warpath through the realm of death, with Nageshes head as a target

Supergrass
Supergrass

Well I did a little mockup, on the right-hand side I made it a darker bone-ish colour, on the left-hand side I made it much less dark but still darker than before
also boobs

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I really, really didnt care for AoS. But I gotta admit that fucking model right there is fucking good looking. the sea turtle aint bad either. the rest is meh, but that fucking water cloak is fantastic.

I will say I am almost tempted to pick up daughters of kaine to have a monster musume army, but I already have too much shit I need to paint.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Dear lord, when did they kill off Ajani?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

That's why they have it
Circumveting an armies weakness is okay when Eldar do it
Also, when all of their powers are rerollable, with consistent, great damage that always hits, while having units that circumvent negative hit modifiers, there's an issue. How exactly do you have buff stopping on the same scale, close enough to all of their Psykers?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Thx for info m8, are they hard to paint?
Im in the middle of doing bloat drone and this one bugger is pain in ass to paint, just as much as new plauge marines.....sooo much shit on them. I love how they look and all but its not easy for me.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Second question to this. Could you run the regular Contemptor Dread models as Relic Contemptor Dreads? Is there any difference?

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Are grenade and missile launchers worth the points in a standard guard squad?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Dark Angels
Weren't they just released a few weeks ago!

Snarelure
Snarelure

Anyone in /40kg/ from Houston/Conroe/Spring TX?

I'll be traveling to Spring to visit my mother, bringing all my hobby stuff and was wondering if there are any stores that have a "Come in and play" atmosphere like GW, I'd go to GW but it's 60 miles away from her home.

Skullbone
Skullbone

all the heroes in particular have very chinese armour.

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Flameblow
Flameblow

The only difference lies in autism.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Were they? I just googled them, holy shit, how'd I miss that?

FastChef
FastChef

That armour doesn't look like any Chinese armour I know.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

this kind of look.

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Illusionz
Illusionz

honestly, not sure. I gave away all those brettonians a couple years ago to some kids because I got tired of them just taking up space.

if they were to give me some cheesecake with my cavalry, and allow brettonians to ally with someone (maybe tomb kings, or give them some other allies) I might consider getting back into fantasy/AoS. but rolling them in with Nagash? I dont know. I would have to see how the models/rules are.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This.

The -1 to hit is the best defense in the game. The only real weakness of Eldar is their low armor and toughness. The to hit penalty covers their weakness while they keep all of their strengths, of which there are many.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

so make-believe china armour

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

FAQ never.

GW is trolling us. Anyone that actually still believes we will get one is a gullible idiot.

Soft_member
Soft_member

I would buy a start collecting box to play Kill Team but I'm not even sure if I helbrute will get rules - probably not
Didint GW teased new Kill team ruleset a while ago? maybe(finger cossed) we will get some rules for Hellbrutes in it. I hope DG get some love in it too.

girlDog
girlDog

We need the -1 to hit, it invalidates our weakness!
Lol, Orks can't have 5+ BS, that's their weakness
Are you a special brand of stupid or was that bait

cum2soon
cum2soon

I'm not really seeing the similarities.

massdebater
massdebater

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Lol, what did (You) think they were talking about?

likme
likme

plastic sisters never
this is what you sound like

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

relic contemptors get a massive amount of weapon options, and some bonus rules at a higher cost, and you have to pay the relic cost (you cant have more relic units than non-relic units in the detachment), but completely worth it to run the relic upgrade.

Playboyize
Playboyize

AoS has some nice models. It honestly makes me interested to see what they do with lizardmen if they ever get around to them. Plus they're trying to improve the lore, which is nice, even if it will never match the greatness of WHFB. The game might be worth playing in a couple of years, assuming they finally get rid of the retarded flat to wound and bring back S and T
Now that I think about it, it might be rather easy to convert the water elves to be CWE. Turtles as tanks, shark things as jet bikes and so on.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

looks bad

Snarelure
Snarelure

It's coming, they just need to fix all the rule abuses from the Adepticon playtest "tournament".

Evilember
Evilember

How dead is a Chapter if it has less than 50 members (not counting dreads)?

Firespawn
Firespawn

April Fools soon, user!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I like it, now try and see if you like some contrast on helmet. Sob have one of best(i would say the best) helmets in 40k and its nice to show them off.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

It's dead Jim.
Holy shit, could you imagine?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Chinese armour?
also kinda aesthetic how both the (You)s layered on top of eachother, thats nice

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

So if I have a Spearhead with two Relic heavy supports, one regular heavy support and an HQ that's kosher?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

plastic sisters never
This is most likely true as well.

I don't see your point. We should have had the FAQ a long time ago, pretty obvious that they haven't actually made one, and doesn't intend to.

whereismyname
whereismyname

About less than 5%

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

assuming they finally get rid of the retarded flat to wound and bring back S and T
Why people want this? Flat rolls make the system easier to balance. S and T bring literally nothing to the game beside another useless table

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Reposting Kill Team teaser for everyone

youtu.be/BYwCOrz4oEo

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Circumveting an armies weakness is okay when Eldar do it
melee units need to be in range to fight, they circumvent this with fast moving units that turn one charge
shooty lines suck when they get tied up in melee, they circumvent this with chaff
horde armies ignore moral
tank units have invuln to ignore armor piercing
squishy units don't get hit

Yeah, also you clip their buffers. Theyre typically slow, they get left behind while the rest of the army zones you. Only way to beat eldar is to know what they do.
If you can't rush down eldar and you're not a gun line what's going on with your list.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Inb4 they delay it again because of "additional input" they need to review
Rinse and repeat forever

King_Martha
King_Martha

is it < or <=? makes a lot of difference.

farquit
farquit

They've just got a lot of work ahead of them.

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happy_sad
happy_sad

Second Ell rider have rune on shield that looks like rune for OBSYDIAN ROSE from DE codex.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Easily fixable.

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You're welcome user. But fake chinese armour is still chinese armour.

takes2long
takes2long

long time ago
in march and its... march
And they said that it'll be slightly delayed as they want to take feedback from Adepticon into consideration as well

idontknow
idontknow

Depends on how it wants to handle business.
But typically very dead.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Alright airbrush has finally arrived. I can't put this off any longer. It's time to choose a chapter. I've narrowed it down to Imperial Fists or some homebrew.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Bangles came back from only 50 men after they boarded a space hulk in 996.M40.
But they're a first founding chapter

SniperGod
SniperGod

I want the game where a unit that wounds a regular unarmoured human on 3+ will also wound the superarmor wearing Final Boss of Chaos sitting atop his End Times Dragon on a 3+
Then fuck over to AoS and don't advocate shit rules for 40k as well.

WebTool
WebTool

Thanks for the suggestion, bud.
Yeah I've been thinking on that but like I said I have trouble settling on a colour for the mask thingy, if I make it black which is the obvious choice, it just looks like she's cosplaying batman. Appreciating the feedback though

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Because the fact that a grot has the same chance to wound a skink as it does a Carnosaur is absolutely fucking retarded

RumChicken
RumChicken

Welp that sucks balls user, I used to had WoC but I got rid of them because I couldn't tolerate EoT and the wank they were given

I still kept my Harry the Hammer though

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

My dude, I play Eldar. I striaght up have a Biel-Tan army I've been collecting since 6th, and even I say Eldar have some busted shit in 8th. Rangers infiltrating stops DS melee, and I can gun down anything fast enough that melees people, hordes can ignore moral all they want, when they're dead there's no need to roll. I can shoot down IG and Tau gunlines easily, and I have enough fast melee shit in the form of Shining Spears to put in work, I really don't understand why you're so adamant in saying the Eldar need -1 to hit so badly, when they stomp the shit out of other armies with such ease.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

They are geting better at making vids. Good to see GDubs spending some money on proper visuals.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Homebrew so you can abuse CTs

Soft_member
Soft_member

There isn't enough of us.

girlDog
girlDog

If it isn't important chapter like first founding or second founding it's dead

farquit
farquit

Chapters can come back from near extinction, it just takes them a few decades to come back to full strength as long as they still have geneseed.

Like the Lamentors, I think they were nearly completely wiped out except for a single Marine that was doing a tour for the deathwatch, and the Lamentors got primaris reinforcement.

Salamanders are almost always under strength due to high casualty rate and they still get sent out all the time for deployment.

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Eh, there are a lot of issues my autistic ass sees, they really gotta spend some more time in after effects.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

err no because they already have Lokhir Fellheart, who wears a cursed not-Chulthu mask. Along with dark elf corsairs, a fleetmaster, and that dual kit for a sea hydra thing. everyone thought theyd be doing the same thing they did for witch elves, but for corsairs.

But instead they said fuck that. lets make high elves under the sea.

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TreeEater
TreeEater

Vect isn't space marines

Snarelure
Snarelure

Okay name 2 or 3 colors.

Skullbone
Skullbone

But armour and wounds represent that instead of a toughness value :^^^^^^^^)
There is exactly no defense of the AoS To-wound system, and I will never understand anyone who tries. That's like advocating that Hitler was actually trying to be nice to Jews. It makes no logical sense in any way imaginable.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Try white mask(so you can highlight it) and make bowl(I dont know the word) blakish like corset on that last image. This way you will have dark inside and light outside with head and limbs.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Literally AOS getting rid of all their fantasy range and the need to build whole new ranges make little space for anything else beyond a few characters and Imperium

fuck chapter house for making GW go full retard and force AOS upon us

StonedTime
StonedTime

Green, purple, and blue.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Shit, I played Dark Elves, and I thought everyone was gonna be a Deep One styled angler fish, but I got that one helmet, so I'm pretty happy about that

DeathDog
DeathDog

Where did you get info abou Lamenters reduced to 1 guy?

TechHater
TechHater

Because the stuff that needs -1 to hit to be viable isn't on your amazing list of eldar shit.

I'm not fond of stacking and I've said myself that -1 is strong. But its reasonable to have.

And honestly the "I'm eldar and I have no problem playing this way" is the same as the ork player that laughs at orks that want to shoot.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

very few chapters have less than 50 members now after the primaris were rolled out.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

there are a lot of issues my autistic ass sees
Im drinking right now so maybe Im not seeing well but what are on your mind exacly? I think they are well made and much better than we had couple years ago.

viagrandad
viagrandad

no, you need a non-relic slot for each relic slot used. So if you want to take 2 relic contemptors, you are going to need 2 other elites in that detachment. Like vanguard and sternguard squad, or 2 squads of reivers.

relic rule stipulates you cant have more relic than non-relic units in a detachment.

hairygrape
hairygrape

You know that carnosaur and skink have different save values?

Playboyize
Playboyize

let me correct that
cant have more relic than non-relic units of the same slot in a detachment.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Reasonable to have
No it isn't. If it was, every faction in the game would have access to it. Also, the -1 to hit to be viable doesn't solve the unit itself, how about instead of just band-aiding things with traits and strats, we just fucking fix them?
Oh, they're absolutely well made, but I can see some artifacts left over from their image overlays, I'm butchering the terminology, but if they spent a little more time clearing things on the edges up, they'd be way better. Same for their release trailers they "animate" by moving the images, just a little more time with the puppet rig could do fucking wonders.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Why did you paint her thighs the same colour as her greaves? Looks weird.

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

the chance to a negate a wound is the same thing as the chance to wound
Sigmar players everyone

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Gotcha, thanks.

MPmaster
MPmaster

tfw huge backlog
Help, what dark eldar unit should I paint next?

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Like this Doc?

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happy_sad
happy_sad

It's unfluffy and a big loss of granularity and unit differentiation.

Playboyize
Playboyize

do you have HQs?

paint them.

Methshot
Methshot

Do a HQ! Also, fuck Benny

Emberfire
Emberfire

I believe literally crimson fists

Evilember
Evilember

I could forgive chapterhouse for that, but I'll never forgive them for making Jes Goodwin sad.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I just feel like the d6 system in general is too restrictive. A d10 or d12 (or larger) would be infintely better because you could actually represent the differences in units.

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

but I'll never forgive them for making Jes Goodwin sad.
What? How?

JunkTop
JunkTop

How did they make him sad?
This desu. The -1 to hit is too big on a d6.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Kill Team can't come soon enough.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

HQ's>vehicles>elites>heavy support>troops

Nojokur
Nojokur

1 painted Archon, Hearmy and Succubus but I got one unpainted one.
I wanted to upgrade my converted Succubus to the Offical model because its bigger and looks more regal...

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Think there's a specific term for it but lets say "neck guard" or "collar"
End result of that one looks like this
I'm contemplating between A. Black tits & collar or B. Armour coloured tits & collar (collar possibly still black)
Mostly because on the minis I see, on Celestine as well, the tits are armour coloured.
Still indecisive on the mask
Oh you, user

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girlDog
girlDog

Holy shit the value of the Betrayal at Calth box.

Is this real?

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

What else do you have to paint?

Bidwell
Bidwell

I would say paint the helm and thighs black, but keep the ornamentation on the helm white.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Think there's a specific term for it but lets say "neck guard" or "collar"

Gorget? If that's the thing you're talking about.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

No it isn't. If it was, every faction in the game would have access to it
The fuck is that logic. Are berserkers ovet powered because not every army has them?

Also, the -1 to hit to be viable doesn't solve the unit itself, how about instead of just band-aiding things with traits and strats, we just fucking fix them?

Because its a unique ability to them instead of simply making them cheaper or tougher.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

He used to take his sketch books a long to events to let fans look through and chat to him about them, but then chapter house based some models off his unused sketches so he doesn't do it anymore.

He's just always come across as a cool guy who loves his job and loves the fact other people enjoy what he produces, but they spoiled that for him.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

paint some wracks or a haemy in flayed skin mode.

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TechHater
TechHater

You could have the mask part be purple or gold to match the other accents in the armour.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Indeed it would. I wish AoS, the fanmade 9th edition of Warhammer fantasy, or 40k, would just start using that shit instead but
Muh d6 is more common
We are buying plastic for thousands, I am sure people can manage to shell out a bit for some d10s.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I can't have two grav leviathans unless I take two blizzard shield dreadnoughts
OK

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Help anons, I've been doing as much as possible to keep all my armies very aesthetically different, but with SOB coming out next year, I fear my available choice of primary colours is running low.

This is what I've done so far:
Drukhari: main colour black, with bright yellow highlights
Guard: (steel legion) main colour desert beige, with grey pants and black flak
Thousand Sons: Blue and gold/Red and gold(mix of pre- and post-heresy)
Genestealer cult: grey mining suits, black carapace, purple robes and skin
and I'm planning to do harlequins
moot green and very pale purple

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I wouldn't be surprised if Kill Team is Games Workshop actually testing how well a d10 system works for 40k.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

How big that guy's helmet is compared to a marine one? Because I see some conversion ideas.

cum2soon
cum2soon

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w8t4u
w8t4u

So Coven of Twelve.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Can you advance on the same turn you deepstrike?

Techpill
Techpill

The price would also come down for them if players bought them more often.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Tiny, it's a face mask about 5mm tall 3mm wide

Emberburn
Emberburn

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SniperGod
SniperGod

fix all the rule abuses from the Adepticon playtest "tournament

Alaitoc's trait becomes Always in Cover
1 Hive Tyrant per Detachment
Supreme Command detachment deleted

Anything else?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I'm still disappointed they didn't use 8th as a chance to move to a D10 system, the game would have been so much better for it

RumChicken
RumChicken

all Coven of the Dark Creed units reduce Ld of units <6" by 1 AND it's cumulative to 3
robots making loud noises & space marines with spooky skull bandanas reduce Ld of units <3" by 1
flayed ones reduce Ld of units <1" by 1 but only if they slew a model in combat & it only lasts until the end of that turn
What did my fashion statement boys do so wrong?

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Not unless specified.

JunkTop
JunkTop

use it or lose it.

if they want to go 10 years between ork and deldar, or 20 years between sisters and aspect warriors, then fuck them

someone else will make them

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Word of warning from a long time sisters player, I'd be careful about trying a different colour chest piece, as most of the models are holding their guns across their chests and being one piece metal models there's no space behind them to paint.

It could very easily just look unfinished.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Kill team is D10? If so, that's amazing.
Though at such a small level, D20 might be better

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Not enough blue yet. 6/10, clash harder.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

T'au commanders price increase so having multiple FoC wouldn't matter

5mileys
5mileys

deepstrike happens at the end of the movement phase after all models have moved.

so...no, unless their deepstrike rule specifically says so.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Making them is one thing, but just lifting it straight from some else's concepts without crediting them is straight up theft.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

tactical marines
value

Techpill
Techpill

mortars and pox walker? maybe dark reapers.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

NEW THREAD WHEN!!

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

They haven't outright stated it, but some of the images they've shown off have a d10 die in them.

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Evilember
Evilember

So, I'm gonna start painting my necron army today. This'll be my first painted stuff, and I figure I'll do a test model or two before I commit to a colour scheme. They're primed black, but I was thinking about going over that with a coat of leadbelcher, followed by doing a tiny bit of druuchi violet in all of the cracks and stuff on their body armour. I'm gonna do the joints in either retributor armor or dark reaper. Do you guys think this'll look decent? Do I need more colors than that? Should I shade the main body with nuln oil or something before I do the purple bits?

SniperGod
SniperGod

The doom is a lot like old one eye, the red terror, and the deathleaper, he's a beta test cranked up to 11, the fleet devotes a ton of time and resources to making these adaptations as ludicrous as possible as a proof of concept, and afterwards will decide weather or not the biomorph adaptations are worth streamlining or not.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I'll never understand the arguement about how they cost too much.
If anything, the problem with D10 would be rolling them en masse. Though that's hardly enough to make them not worth it compared to the benefits

SniperWish
SniperWish

they go with the iconic D20 to try and appeal to a wider audience
It's just like D&D, but with guns!

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I know Chyron (a dread) is permanently attached to a deathwatch outpost.

Malakim Phoros (Lamentors chapter master) is in the 8th edition Blood Angels codex.

only 2 Named Lamentors alive in the lore that arent Primaris.

FastChef
FastChef

This looks like shit.
Gotta look at it again.
No, I didnt mean neckguard, I think its ok if you leave it pale, I meant that other mart of helmet, not face guard, but part that covers the skull.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Using D20 as a means to appeal to a wider audience would be full retard.
If were being real honest, Kill team would best be served by being D100, like inquisitor was. But too many players are fags for that to happen

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Okay, but how are Guard gunna roll 32 D12s at once? Is everyone gunna need GW-approved tiny D12s every time they fire a twin assault cannon? Because most third party D12s I see are at least 2 centimeters wide.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Oh, that's it? That hardly seems restrictive at all.

I always thought that a single "relic" unit counted as your relic for that army, and that you could buy more with the strat, as normal, if you wanted up to 3.

Spamalot
Spamalot

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

user you know plastic sisters have been confirmed for 2019 right?

farquit
farquit

are melta deep strike command scions worse than plasma deep strike command scions?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Same user

I think this scheme looks nice too.

Methshot
Methshot

Yes because melta is just 1 shot at str 8 ap4d6 damage after a deep strike whereas plasma is 2 at 8/-3/2. Technically it can do more damage but vs almost anything that isn't a tank I doubt it will. Mathhammer will tell you when, if ever, its better.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Time to keep going deeper I suppose
Yeah thats the one, I kept coming up with "girdle" and thats.. different.
Well here's what that would look like, on the leftmost one
Pictured on the second girl from the left. I quite like the gold mask actually, right now its between white & gold (haven't settled on a shade of gold just yet however)
Point taken, cap'n.
Oh well then, this is that in the middle

The two rightmost ones are my personal combinations of the suggestions

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JunkTop
JunkTop

cant have more relic than non-relic units of the same slot in a detachment.
so if you want to take 3 relic elites, you have to take 3 non relic elite in that same detachment. Also, including a relic unit in your army gives you a special strategem.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

yeah, but they are specifically for tanks.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Fix on the middle one in case you meant the actual full helmet itself lol

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viagrandad
viagrandad

make the neckguard and the trim around the corset white, like lace.

cum2soon
cum2soon

That left one looks good, but visualizing it next to the one one to the right, maybe gold for the helm ornament would be better, but otherwise I really like that far left one.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Too be fair, actually falling in love would probably be considered disgusting by Commorrite society.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Baneblades triple in cost or fellblades cost almost halved

Emberburn
Emberburn

Space marauder, no contest

Illusionz
Illusionz

Space marauder. The real tempestus Scionanon was either drive away or completely drowned out by shitposts in his name.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Whats wrong with supreme command detachments if they limit super HQs?

Skullbone
Skullbone

yeah m8, easy 1000pts
Not building Veterans or Devastators

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

A scarce handful of chapters have ever recovered from only having 50 living members. It really depends who they are, where they are, and how much geneseed they have banked.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Do own have a vacuum cleaner by any chance...?

The foam that covers the parts is the perfect shape to fit a Ghost/Annihilation Ark, Triarch Stalker and Annihilation/Command barge. I am not even kidding

idontknow
idontknow

Way to be a colossal faggot, user!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

So, how is it reasonable to have, if you can just cherry pick it in each faction it's in, while having it be the best trait at the same time? Also, unique ability to them? There are more than just the Eldar that get that, and making something cheaper or tougher doesn't fundamentally fix what's wrong with the unit in the first place.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

delicious brown elf army
UNF

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

*laughs in Heavy 8 S8 AP-1 D2, hitting on 2+*

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viagrandad
viagrandad

...Go on

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

No joke I thought that was a still from The Last Jedi...

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

that pic

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hairygrape
hairygrape

i painted them with red skin so they must be coven of twelve
no they just have flayed skin

Supergrass
Supergrass

Anyone got a link to Carcharodons: Outer Dark yet?

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