Stocks and long term investment

Before you ask, I already have some crypto, but diversification is the name of the game. What are some promising industries or companies to invest in that will provide long term gains? I may not have tons of liquid cash (at the moment) but I do have large amounts of time on my hands.

>TL:DR - what are some good stocks a 20-something can invest in for upwards of 50 years?

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Ethereum and NEO.

If you find a company that can effectively and cheaply reproduce graphene then throw every single fucking cent into it. Think lithium big but 10000x bigger.
Thank me later

Canadian weed companies.

Bazinga

Also Hydrogels

30 y US treasury bonds

youre too late, it's already priced in. most of the big companies are multibillion market caps

the correct answer is canadian blockchain companies

for example

healthspace data systems

UBNT taking over Cisco's market share buy making competitive products for a quarter of the price, better software, better support, and can be bought on Amazon for even some of their best products.

Petrofac.

I bought $ALLY last year and am up almost 40%. Regret not buying more. My play is banking on the future of millennials being way more comfortable doing all their banking online and Ally having first-to-market advantage in the online-only market of consumer banking. I would have put more money into it but at the time they were pretty much only making money on auto loans. Since then, they've diversified; they're offering home loans (good long term play to diversify away from auto, which is a lot riskier), credit cards, and they bought an investment brokerage so they'll have some commission money coming in from that too. They have rising rates and deregulation as secular tailwinds as well. Their market cap is fast growing, fairly sure they're positioned to be added to the S&P 500 in the next year or so which also will be a boost.

Disclosure: I'm a happy customer and shareholder of Ally.

> long term gains

just put your money in the lowest-cost index fund you can find

get in on the green train. Canadian weed stocks are already booming and will probably hit peak around june/july when recreational use becomes legal. TSX:WEED (seriously) is the big one now. Also Aurora Cannabis. HVST is undervalued as well, and cheap.

>priced in

Emerging markets/China stocks/etfs. BABA.

Robotics etfs that mainly emphaisize Japan (BOTZ).

Canadian Weed stocks.

This, OP.

Unless you have a lot of capital and time, you're better off throwing a little bit of your paycheck into index funds / ETFs.

Obviously I can see the potential for investing in marijuana in the 5-10 year term (current US administration is not so hot on pot). However, who is to say that big tobacco names like Phillip Morris won't be able to Walmart-ize the industry, and that they aren't already preparing to do so? These companies have huge cash flows to invest into MJ and a mature supply infrastructure for a nearly identical product (from an industrial standpoint).

Invest in Intel while stocks are down. Since China banned mining, more rigs will be coming to the US. The government will get involved to control prices, and will mine.

AMD is a shitty short-term buy but a good long-term buy. The new server CPU EPYC will take market share especially considering they're on track with 7nm.

>However, who is to say that big tobacco names like Phillip Morris won't be able to Walmart-ize the industry, and that they aren't already preparing to do so? These companies have huge cash flows to invest into MJ and a mature supply infrastructure for a nearly identical product (from an industrial standpoint).

If they do that, then invest in them too.

why would a company with such shitty fundamentals be "a good long-term buy?" they still haven't figured out how to make a profit

Any Pharmaceutical company, especially the ones focusing on "life style caused diseases".
The average BMI in most of the developing world, will go to the moon.
Urbanization in the developing world will cause more people to live in air-polluted areas - Astma.

If you are coy, then any weapons manufactor that develop drones for military purposes, would also be a good bet.

Forgot the hard ageing demographic in the West and in East Asia.. Lots of old age diseases - diabetes etc.

Because of a recent event Sirius will receive an influx of new revenue and subscriptions would could raise the price anywhere from 25-100% by q2

All stocks that profit from ecommerce such as:
Alibaba
PayPal
Amazon
Google
Salesforce
DHL
UPS

Which companies do you follow/own in pharma? I'm looking at Merck & Celgene equal positions each for stability and growth, respectively.

canadian pot or gtfo

I am from Denmark, we have a couple of large one.. So I mainly follow them i.e. Novo Nordisk, Lundbeck, Novozymes, Leo pharma.

Molybdenum prices are going up for the first time in like 10 years. Moly mining is gonna be hot as fuck for like the next decade. Buy GMO General Moly.

OMG - XRB - ETH - NEO - LINK

You will thank me later

I would personally look for dividend payout, I know of one American pharma company that had an unusual high payout - and have had it for +20 years.
But that is my personally preference..

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it depends on if you believe in the turn-around. for AMD to make profit they need to get market share in the server-space. EPYC is competetive so this will not be a problem. yoy revenue they're up 26% so they're moving in the right direction as well. the overall product portfolio is competitive and the road-map looks good. it also helps that Intel is a massive fuck-up and keeps delaying their 10nm products.

Was thinking of investing in IBM in-case quantum computing becomes a thing in 2020. Good idea?

Water, Lithium, Healthcare REITs. Pharma thru mutual funds.

Anyone who doesn't know this doesn't deserve to make unholy gains, but cheap graphene is way off

Invest in the fixed income market of Brazil or other emerging countries. You can get a basically 0-risk 10%+ yearly profit .

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and the money goes right to yer bank acct

>for AMD to make profit they need to get market share in the server-space

no, for AMD to make a profit they need expenses to be less than their income. it's just basic math at this point. what good is selling more product if expenses increase too?

This.
Emerald Health Therapeutics, for instance.

What's your thoughts on $EMB? Emerging markets bond ETF. I can buy it commission free at my brokerage which is very attractive.

Do you play individual bonds or ETFs? How do you play duration?

It's impossible to make real money on the stockmarket, you will get your money stolen by whales with their insider info and trading algorithms. Crypto is your only chance

XXII baybeee

This is true. They use advanced AI tech to trade. You'll never outsmart them.

literally facebook

its going to be a 1000

Lockheed Martin, Amazon

>LMT
Okay, but you're buying quite high.

>AMZN
Too late. PE ratios in the 300's need not apply.

what are some graphene companies to look into?

I'm also looking at $FALN in the fixed income sector. It's a bond ETF that holds companies who had their credit rating slip below IG. So you're getting the performance of high yield debt, but from well established former IG companies. Almost no physical retail exposure in its holdings either. Almost 6% yield and pays a monthly dividend.

Can we start calling the blockchain/cryptospace for another kind of stockmarket? As long as it becomes legit, i can see it being nice.

These might not be the most exciting picks but are absolutely solid and not going anywhere. They have also appreciated a lot for me in the last 2 years so I am obviously biased but anyway.

Facebook. Seriously, it is already huge but it is making moves to get into literally everything tech based.

Amazon. Expanding everywhere, utilizing automation, taking market share from everyone else, expanding into various industries.

Google. What can I say?

Tesla. A little riskier, but seems to be getting its shit together. The one you really want to invest in is SpaceX but sadly isn't public yet.

Think 20 years in the future. Can you see any of these companies losing value?
I can only see them exploding really.

Don't get into stocks. Crypto is like stocks but everyone is on a somewhat equal playing field. In stocks you have NO chance against the big boys and the bots.

Also the only stocks worth investing is in weed stocks before a democrat president.

Get some US total market ETFs. They made 21% last year. If the US economy fails, the world economy fails.

I wish US companies would issue stock in the form of cryptocurrencies. Imagine buying, for example, 1 "XOMcoin" which would be 1 share of ExxonMobil that you could purchase partial shares of, print and store in a safe, transfer directly to another person, or do a ratio based direct exchange/swap for say, "CVXcoin".

The companies could pay their dividends as their coins directly (rather than pay you in cash (triggering a taxable event), then your brokerage having to execute a purchase order.

I would LOVE to see established US company stocks issued as cryptocurrency.

Get into a low-cost index fund. 99% of independent investors perform worse than the market index. If you are asking for investment advice on here, then you are likely not the 1% to perform better than a low-cost index fund.

index funds or sector funds
amazon is being partially moved out of the technology sector so idk, but tech is fucking solid for me

Why get ETFs instead of directly investing into the funds?

risk

your index fund is an etf
literally just tracks market cap and buys/sells accordingly

I mean, for example, why would I buy Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI), instead of just directly investing into Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)? I thought the ETFs were just the tradable form of the mutual funds for people who want to actively trade the funds? If I'm investing long term, I would just go into VTSAX, yet I see people on here often suggesting ETF instead of just the index fund.

>VTSAX
The only difference I suppose would be the automatic buy-back of dividends.

I have the institutional vanguard fund for my 401K, and VTI/VGT for my IRA. I don't see why I couldn't do VTSAX but I take my dividends and invest them in VGT.

VTSAX has a minimum investment of $10k if you look under fees and minimums.

VTSMX is the smaller buy in equivalent

are you thinking about long-term or short-term investment?
are you investing from a retirement account?

VTI has no minimum and has a lower expense ratio.

Not personally considering. I already have an independent brokerage and a retirement 401k accounts with Vanguard.
I'm just puzzled why people reply with "index fund ETF" instead of just "index mutual funds" whenever somebody asks about investment alternatives.

lindacoin. It's gonna blow the entire stockmarket out of the water. Screenshot this. Thank me later.

You have to buy during business hours though? Tbh I'm too lazy to deal with that.

I'm guessing the advantage of ETFs is that they are easier to trade (a disadvantage for long-term investors) and they may have tax advantages (doesn't really apply to retirement accounts). downside is that they're traded constantly by big banks so its technically possible for an ETF to trade at less than its asset value.

Wow, nice gainz user.

In summary from these posts and some research;

ETFs don't have required minimum buy ins. You can day trade them (but this greatly increases volatility) and DRIP (dividend reinvestment plan).

Many brokerages offer a selection of commission free or no transaction fee ETFs and mutual funds so that's a plus to both if you're using a big boy brokerage.

Not sure if this applies to other brokerages, but Fidelity will actually let you route direct deposits into a mutual fund which is an advantage to mutual funds.

In a retirement account, if you plan to long hold and DRIP, I think an ETF is probably less hassle. Especially in a Roth IRA. In a taxable account, I don't know. Then again, conventional opinion on DRIP is changing, as brokerages recently became required to track all DRIP activity in terms of cost basis; making it significantly easier for retail investors when it comes time to file their taxes.

I work at an investment firm and I've never heard any of our portfolio managers use the term "index fund ETF" or "index mutual fund". General terminology is to just say "ETF" or "index fund". 99% of ETFs track an index.

Here are the pros and cons: investor.vanguard.com/etf/etf-vs-mutual-fund?WT.srch=1&cmpgn=PS:RE

I already touched on minimums. Most mutual funds have them. ETFs don't.

One big one is that the ETF updates in real-time in my Fidelity brokerage account and I can buy/sell during the day. Some mutual funds in my Roth IRA do not update till after the market closes.

Mutual funds you can make automatic investments into. ETFs you can't. Mutual Funds are better for automatic investment into retirement accounts.

thanks for the summary. do you happen to work on the IT side of an investment firm? i would really like to break into the industry and leverage some of my big data skills for something like risk management

So you're talking about diversification as in investing in the stock market and not other crypto's?

This long term list is what every long termer should have if you ask me.
1. Apple
2. Alibaba
2. PayPal
3. McDonald’s
4. Boeing
5. Lockheed Martin
6. Diageo plc
7. Amazon
8. Celanese
9. Waste Management

These are 9 stocks I have held for a long time.
Solid, safe and won't go away anytime soon.

>2. Alibaba
>held for a long time.

your long-term hold had an IPO in 2014? the absolute state of this board

You had to be extremely picky with that statement, huh?
I included Alibaba in this list because it's an extremely legit long termer now that will grow way faster than a majority of the western companies.

Get the fuck out of here, what a useless reply. The state of this board indeed.

Buy blue chip stocks (eg. 3M, JNJ, Coca Cola)

They've been around for a hundred years, and will for a hundred more.

Yes, I majored in CompSci and I do full stack software development writing apps for stock and bond traders. The work itself is not too difficult and the pay is fantastic. They even paid for me to take a bunch of financial certifications classes so I can better communicate requirements and such with the business folks. This is a great perk because obviously I can use that financial knowledge to manage my own portfolio. The only downsides is that there are a lot of compliance restrictions and the workforce in this particular branch of IT is a lot older and stodgier. You won't have the "work in your pajamas" meme like a tech startup. I count that as a plus tho, as being young (read: adaptable and open to new tech/frameworks) will make you look like a superstar compared to your older peers.

My advice to you:
Once you've got the education background (be it a degree or certifications) is to research and apply at insurance companies. As you may or may not know, insurance companies make the lion's share of their profits with their investment portfolios. Because insurance is very much a legacy industry, and not exactly a glamorous place to work, they are as a whole very much lacking in young talent, especially in IT. Insurance also has locations all over the country. All of this makes it a lot easier to break into than your typical "Wall Street" memes in NYC.

Hope this helps. Best of luck to you.

Also, just because some technological yippediyappedi comes around, doesn't mean that the company who either produces it or sells it will be a good long term hold. Take airline stock for example. It's a terrible business to be invested in, even though they make a lot of money.
Stay away from shit and shillers like this

thanks for the great advice! i will start looking at insurance companies too

I second this....acbff is a good solid company for going long

Forgot to add:

I was hired at $65k salary + 8% 401k matching straight out of college at 22. I am now 25 and make $85k.

I was initially fairly bored with the job, but gaining a bunch of financial knowledge has helped me to appreciate what I do and made it a lot more enjoyable. Being that you're browsing a stock & bond thread on Veeky Forums you probably already have sparked that interest in finance so it will probably enjoyable to you right off the bat.

Now, get to work user, we're all gonna make it.

sounds great, but did you have to relocate somewhere with a high cost of living?