Cant wait to stack up enough to reach 4% withdrawal rate. Couldnt care less about a career. I just wanna live spartan, read, take long walks, cook slow food, do yoga, travel by bike, mediate and get away from stressful big city and pollution. Wanna be able to turn my phone off for days.
Who else is working towards the permanent portfolio 4% solution?
i don't know what fucking gay meme your talking about, I'm just making as much money as I can
Isaac Hall
Good goyim. Keep running for them shekels. Too much is never enough.
Kevin Roberts
why are you posting here if you're doing anything different?
Daniel Jenkins
Don't know what you even mean.
John Butler
What the fuck is a permanent portfolio. That sounds like some really heavy bags.
Camden Garcia
4%'s only tested for a 30 year timeframe. 3-3.5% is what you'd need for retiring earlier than that without lifting a finger ever again.
Julian Phillips
>do yoga >instead of lifting weights what the fuck?
Parker Robinson
great to hear. But also depends on inflation.
Justin Long
What coin is this ?
Jack Gonzalez
3% of what?
Jackson Foster
I have $300,000 and I'm 21. i'm thinking about doing this. Is this enough? How much do I need?
Jackson Nguyen
I'm quoting figures from the Trinity Study (and the researcher who did it), which used a 60/40 stock index fund/bond portfolio from like the 1870s to the present day. For every $100,000, you could withdraw $3-$3.5k in constant real value per year without having to touch the principle.
James Gutierrez
Need a bit more. I just hit $420k, 31, and you'll take your yearly expense and divide it by 3.5%. So for me living in bumfuck no where, $20k/yr. expenses at 3.5% is about $571k. That is living on a tight budget but if you pick up odd jobs and shit, the freedom is worth it.
Oliver Ortiz
So this coin is proof of stake
Zachary Rogers
I am ! Harry B ftw ! :)
600k for 3k a month is my goal
Jaxson Butler
How much do you make a year? How much are you able to save/invest?
I want to do this so badly. I will never be content until I have "fuck you money" or enough to retire whenever
Jordan Phillips
Put together a spreadsheet where each row is a year of your age, then add columns for salary (previous year's salary + whatever raise), expenses (previous year's expenses + whatever inflation), savings (salary - expenses), investment (savings + previous year's investment * rate of return), and retirement income (investment * 0.035 or whatever).
Then drag the rows down and badda bing badda boom, you're done.
Jordan Roberts
So I'd need 10 million dollars to withdraw $100k a year?
Dylan Adams
How did you calculate that? more like 3 million for 100k before tax
John Perez
Oops I meant 3 million. I guess I need 6 million due to taxes.
Landon Walker
Thats my goal as well. Didnt realize how bad I wanted to retire until this year, but I do. Since then its all been amount accumulating and saving. Its all I think about now.
Jackson Roberts
I'm gonna make it simple for you goys
Unless you want to live like a poor fella you're gonna need 1.7M at roughly 25 (adjust depending on your age)
3M lets you lively quite nicely
5M very nicely, in terms of living expenses you probably wont need above this to cover it
10M+ you'll probably just end up spending that money in other investments
Henry Richardson
If somehow you are taxed 50% on $100k worth of non-employment income (bond interest + long term capital gains), then yes.
You'd also be in some sort of socialist hellhole like California, so I recommend moving.
I'm hoping referrals will be my passive income for this year.
Blake Ward
See? Us wagies can "10x" too. In only twenty years!
Nathan Baker
this. the brackets dont work like that, don't really know for burger but at a rough estimate would clear 85 off 100
Caleb Butler
I'd be taxed 25%. How much do I need to take home $100k per year?
Mason Allen
something like 135... why would you be taxed 25% flat though?
Carson Cruz
1) Where the fuck do you live?
2) Do you understand how tax brackets work? Protip: You can never "lose" money by earning more money that puts you in a higher bracket.
Ethan Cook
Half of the top tax bracket which is around 50%
Cameron Davis
Ok so I'll need 4.5 million. I think I can do that with Crypto plus wages. And that's leaving the whole 4.5 million to my family when I die. If I want to leave nothing it would be less.
Thomas Mitchell
I guess so, if you've worked the brackets out properly, I'm not sure that you have
Jeremiah Jackson
Inb4 30 year Japanese-Style bear market hits.
Gavin Bailey
Couldn't the "stocks" portion of the portfolio just be internationally diversified? Then that sort of risk drops to basically 0.
Jace Peterson
mostly this, but it's still not really ideal to just income too much and eat a high rate for no reason
Nathaniel Sanders
it better be. Otherwise, one would be like these 20-something enthusiastic Japanese people who started investing in the late 80's and now that they are 60 have literally no return to show for.
Nolan Cooper
how is this sustainable or reliable in an environment like crypto?
Nathan Murphy
Japan just has an autistic home country bias. Note: Burgers investing in a purely "domestic" S&P 500 end up getting some international exposure by default due to multinationals and shit.
Nathaniel Long
Just turned 19 and got 800k saved up. Is this enough?
John Garcia
Japanese save like 50% of their paycheck in a savings account. Stocks are too risky.
Logan Miller
Can't answer that without more info.
Where do you want to live? Use Padmapper or Zillow to lookup rent & house prices, then cost of living calculators for other shit. That should give you a ballpark figure for expenses living on your own.
Logan Barnes
but what exactly do you do with that money? how much does that mean annually?
Anthony Morales
because their fucking wives blew it up going all in
Anthony Cox
look up 2008
Brandon King
Yes, look at it in OP's picture...
Lucas Gonzalez
>what is inflation
Anthony Martin
about half a percent in japan
Isaac Taylor
I know how to make a spreadsheet, I spend probably an hour messing around in excel every day.
I'm not employed, I just got discharged from the army about a week ago and university doesn't begin until fall. Makes it hard to calculate a savings, let alone salary..
Anyway, anyone /frugal/ here? How much do you manage to put away every month?
Liam Ortiz
Crypto (high risk/high return) is where you make the bank roll. Keep some play money in crypto but you have to build a permanent portfolio outside crypto for it to actually work
Isaac Adams
I was shilling pfr and prl here for you on /biz since both were 0.07 and 0.01 respectively. Get profit on egas and make me (and you) rich. Take a look@ coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethgas/