I've been researching the Tether/Bitfinex shadiness since December and the week they printed 100M day after day, I decided to exit the market with around $10k in profit.
Until now, I thought it might take at least a few months before shit hits the fan but I think it's going to happen faster. I was watching the market the whole night yesterday and today and I saw bitcoin dropping to $10,000, another 100M USD-T issued, and an immediate hike in price.
I want to know what your thoughts are for re-entry. I want to be prepared to buy back in once the market crashes. Do you guys think coinbase would still be operational amidst all the panic? Should I deposit fiat onto GDAX and keep it or might they put their services offline? What are the chances they're going to pull some shady shit to buy cheap coins for themselves?
>I've been researching since December Since December? Really?
Fuck off newcoiner and stay out of the market
Easton Parker
This this man right here seems like a very honest and rational person tether is completely legitimate everyone make sure to go get a 2nd mortgage on your house and take it to bitmex and go 100x margin long at market value
Andrew Turner
You are a newfag and you dont know what you are talking about.
So Tether has the power to "instantly" increase BTC price after printing, despite it takin up to 10 hours to actually go into circulation divided among each exchange?
fucking moron.
all you faggots need a reason why you wont make it, thats your problem
Carson Rodriguez
We're in for one more bull corrective wave before the final push down.
Easton Ramirez
This you're all being incredibly irrational conspiracy theorists! How dare you think tether is propping up the market, do you know how CRAZY that makes you sound??
Luis Sanchez
USDT is single handedly propping the market.It was also responsible for the BTC run to 20k and the subsequent alt bull market. Anyone who wishes it's collapse is a blind self hating retard. We as a community should turn a blind eye to the desert people's shenanigans.
Isaiah Martin
BitFinex is also manipulating order books so that BTC sell price can't go below a certain threshold. So the number of sell orders appears to be lower than it is. Demand > supply so BTC has been pushed up.
Tether/BitFinex is artificially manipulating the price from falling below $10k USD in the hopes of a bank run when/if BTC falls too low. They are also printing tether out of thin air, and then getting btc for free to sheep.
So by pumping BTC price they are able to flip the coins they got for free, as well as maintain their fraud.
Remember that the owners of BitFinex are sketchy people. One is a convicted criminal who was involved in the 90s of selling pirated software (not saying it's the worst thing but shows you the type of scumbags they are).
Bitfinex is likely insolvent from the hacks that have occurred.
They refuse to allow 3rd party audits as well.
And yeah, I'm out in fiat too if the crash happens. But Bitfinex is trying hard to prevent that from happening.
Watch: twitter.com/tetherprinter to follow whenever they print tether. It happens whenever BTC prices dips at $10k or so and they're hoping that they can jump start another bull run for February/stir FOMO/avoid a bank run on tether.
They might succeed, or they might, but if they fail at holding this support the market, I can see tether/bitfinex imploding and causing a prolonged bear market. Everyone can see that bitcoin has been on a downward trend/correction for the last month or so. We also know that they pumped the price of BTC a lot in November/December by creating more tether to pump into the market.
I would not be in alts right now. Stick with USD or go 50/50 on BTC/USD to weather a fall.
Nolan Hughes
Been in bitcoin for 4 years. Seen the Mt. Gox crash. Sorry bud.
Nolan Cox
Tether is used for arbritage and for consolidation.
It used to create buy pressure back when BTC was around 1,500 dollars. these days its funny to think it create buy pressure.
i remember going though this bull shit in september when people actually had a point. Now its just silly newfags who are crying over something to blame their losses on or give themselves a reason to take profits and get out.
Will JNT replace tether and revolutionize the market?
Daniel Long
think you are the only one? I lost 12.7 BTC in mt Gox. that was more than half of what i owned.
The market today does not resemble the market back then what so ever, and anyone that insinuates that is a fucking larper who wasn't around back then.
Alexander Scott
You are actually correct OP.
I pray to the crypto gods that the crash won't happen but I am getting nervous
Aiden Fisher
I bought the dip. Why does no one listen to Veeky Forums?
Adrian Carter
>a 500b global crypto market surely cant gather 1.5b in USD to support tether
Zachary Peterson
>Catching falling knives Hasn't your lizard brain not realised we have lower lows and lower highs. Zoom out retard.
Jaxon Sanders
>deposited 3k into coinbase 10 days ago >still not available >removed from bank account 10 days ago
I hate this site. Still says pending.
Samuel Allen
>price of bitcoin drops >large institutions start fomoing at the mouth >no easy entry to market for large sums of money >ring up tether >ask for your account to be credited tens of millions of tether and you will wire over money the next day Why is this so hard to believe? If you sell out now you are going to regret it for the rest of your fucking life.
Aiden Davis
Yeah, I'm done FUDing it. I know it will crash the market eventually, but there's enough other shit to worry about. I've cashed out plenty, hedged in gold and silver, got some guns, games and a new laptop. The money I have in now I'm fine with crashing to zero. I will go down with this ship, but hopefully I can pay off my house first. In fact, I'm going to start a narrative about how Tether is legit, they have just been moving dirty mob money into crypto. Even the mob wants some BTCs, lol
Andrew Baker
>I decided to exit the market with around $10k in profit.
What's even the point in taking peanuts off the table?
You we're 1/200th of the way to making it.
Cameron Phillips
This is false, you don't need a lot of money to pump BTC price. At any given moment all you need is to inject a few dozen BTC to prop up the price since bitcoin markets are nowhere near as liquid as others like stock/gold/futurese/etc.
False. It actually does. Wiley bot pumped BTC from $100 to $1,000. Bitfinex is manipulating price again to prevent selling at certain prices, and maintaining the support at $10k.
There's a lot of FUD in this thread by people who want or need a bull run to happen. I'm not saying it won't happen, but the $750 million that was injected the last 3-4 weeks has only stalled the downward trend (they are hoping to create conditions for a bullish reversal), but the buy pressure/demand is not there.
Maybe it'll dip again a big more, but it's actually stabilizing, we haven't hit the first low since the initial crash happened.
Adam Johnson
>price of bitcoin drops >people want to buy btc >they print more tether
Christopher Harris
>Maybe it'll dip again a big more, but it's actually stabilizing, we haven't hit the first low since the initial crash happened.
Because bitfinex is propping it up every time it hits $10,000 and momentum slows down.
The stabilizing is artificial. They may succeed at doing it if they can hold it until late January/February, and if they succeed the crash will just be harder.
James Sanders
Anyone denying the tether scam has a LOT of money involved. Keep that in mind.
Liam Diaz
Where's the proof of that?
Hudson Edwards
> shit, i want to buy BTC, i have millions to invest, but none of the fiat exchanges are good for transferring that much, and i dont really trust them. its not efficient as a business either for me to do it like that. Damn BTC is so cheap right now as CME futures has shorted it too.
> Oh wait, theres that USDT thing. let me phone them. "oh, you will credit my account with 20m USDT tomorrow if i send you the funds today?"
not fucking hard faggot. thats why its being printed every day lately.
Mason Evans
>credit
Precisely.
Josiah Scott
Has none, just what he reads on reddit.
Thomas Thompson
Mtgox was 80% of global volume Bitfinex is like less than 10% if you take into account the fee less and Korean exchanges
Youre an idiot Shut up
Angel Rogers
Bitcoin is clearly being used as a tool by globalists to weaken America's influence on the world. It's run by the same people who are anti-Trump. Basically, they're idiots who always fail at whatever they do. It's quite sad.
Michael Cox
Ad hominems. How deep are you in your BTC position?
There are many exchanges, and virtually non covers the whole world (Japan, US and EU for licensing, China for local banking). Korea has no major exchange, yet the (fake) news of a bitcoin ban caused quite an effect on BTC price.
So yes, Bitfinex having 10% or even 5% of daily volume is more than enough to shake BTC price significantly. Markets are a lot more irrational than autists give credit.
Angel Brooks
Its a self fulfilling prophecy People see tether being printed -> omg this must mean price pump -> they buy because of this -> this then leads to an actual price increase
Jaxson Adams
The salty TA fags who sold early (they didn't factor in Finex pumps to their meme lines) and sheep who blatantly repeat popular statements are the ones wasting their energy on it. And these doomsday scenario these fucks fantasize about is years if not decades away Who the fuck said I'm selling out. Learn to use the quote system newfag. >Being this deluded If you can read an order book and volume you'll notice. There is nothing holding BTC up at its current price except Finex. I said this once and I always tell you fools. BTCs real price is about 6k. Anything else is artificial. I told the folks buying at 14k, 13k, 12k, 11k, 10k not to and that it'll dip further , but they called me a faggot larper. Look up my trip.
Kayden Martin
Who said only Finex will fall? Why are you calling others idiots yet you are mostly uninformed. Any exchange which has USDT pairings will exit scam. Wex Bitfinex Bittrex Binance Poloniex Cryptopia Anything that touches USDT is doomed.
Jeremiah Reyes
I know of a secret bitcoin exchange that isn't even listed on google
Josiah Reyes
There are people from WhalePool in here who have a vested interest in keeping BTC price above $10k. Don't worry, your reasoning is sound. Smart money exited a while ago. Hell, even BitConnect exited before it entirely collapsed because they see the correction happening shortly.
Thomas Wilson
>Been in bitcoin for 4 years >I decided to exit the market with around $10k in profit.
Angel Torres
W-What's ETH's real price? Don't care about BTC.
Evan Garcia
You talking about the kraken darkpool? I know it too For ETHs vision and what it's supposed to achieve, massively overvalued and expensive to run. But for speculation, what it is currently used for, largely undervalued. So choose according to your game plan.
Connor Hill
And he's only been "researching tether" since December.. Another newcoiner psued who thinks they know the market inside out
Luke Young
I think it will overtake BTC this year, as more and more realize it has a better use of a currency than BTC and about the same number of pairings. We'll see.
Jeremiah Sanchez
ETH will NEVER overtake BTC. BTC will never be overtaken. What kind of comment is that?
Thomas Diaz
Haha. I loled too and stopped reading.
Whales spend 10k on transaction fees.
Luis Murphy
Change is a law of the world, user.
Cooper Foster
Have any proof that bitfinex has 2billion usd somewhere?
Robert Collins
Some things don't change. Bitcoin will always stay at the top. That's the way of the crypto world, user.
Ian Nelson
I agree, Bitcoin cash cannot be stopped
Luis Edwards
WIKIPEDIA HAS CALLED IT
Robert Sanders
i dunno about the others. But huobi is in china, wont they get executed for this?
also bittrex is in america, so everyone will just end up in rape me in the ass prison if they tried to steal from their customers.
Juan Richardson
You can nitpick on little details. I've been in crypto for 4 years. I mainly mine. Sorry, long.
That's from an original amount of $700 since late November that became $10,000. I mainly mine. My net worth from crypto, and other holdings are far higher than that. Not that it means anything. Ideas matter more than stupidly gaining and then losing funds. Your loss though.
Bitfinex refuses to do a 3rd party audit. It's not rocket science why.
Julian Rodriguez
No, how would I have that? I'm not trying to prove anything, the conspiracyposter was. So please fuck off having me try to prove a negative.
Jack Mitchell
I prepared for crash but don't think it must be tether crash. Just natural decline to 6k or so.
Since I dont think I will be able to time the bottom Im DCA buying for the next 100 days.
t. sold at 17k
Andrew Myers
>I've been researching the Tether/Bitfinex shadiness since December >researching since December >since December >December wew lad
Anthony Murphy
Oh and yes I think the big actual regulated exchanges will be somewhat safe to park fiat waiting to buy. Even if tether collapses.
Brayden Gomez
so how can you be so sure is not a scam? Its weird how bitfinex have to send their shills to defend them instead of defending themselves.
Ian Gonzalez
Are you retarded? Bitcoin can easily be replaced, it has already lost most of the market share.
Liam Smith
>Bitcoin can easily be replaced
>Has never been replaced
Jacob Richardson
If they have nothing to hide, why do they refuse to do 3rd party audit?
Nobody even knows the fuckin physical address of a tether based exchange. They all ride on reputation from the old days. And being the smart risk takers the folks who run these exchanges are, they'll disapear first thing they sniff out trouble. This is why I always refer newbie relatives to kraken only. How new are you? A November fag you are?
Bitfinex refuses to do a 3rd party audit? Why would any private company let random autists on reddit dig through all their information?
Aiden Lewis
>in the couple of years that Bitcoin exists it has not been replaced
Are you like 12?
Andrew Parker
I didn't claim anything, was. Do they have to?
Caleb Foster
>people buy into tether >tether tokens increase over a dollar >tether prints more to meet demand to stay 1 dollar >conspiracy Ok you genuinely intelligent specimen of a man
Alexander Morris
I bought my first Bitcoins in 2013 you fucking retard
William Miller
because that wouldn't be good for business and a waste of time you dimwit
Nicholas Morgan
How much does bitfinexed pay you? I'm amazed he still has any money left after selling all of his bitcoin at $1000
Easton Reed
bitfinex shills have invaded biz.
Jayden Bennett
full audits of businesses with a few hundred people take under a month with like 4 people.
Elijah Cooper
>S&P 500 has been dictating the NYSE for the past 60 years >When will Tesla replace this shit stock?
This is how stupid you sound
Christopher Wilson
What? Bitcoin has always been #1 in market cap. What the fuck are you going on about?
Annoying.
Aiden Turner
Bitfinexed paid pajeets have been invading the board since around the time of China fud crash and it always ramps up when the entire market is red Go figure
Ethan Ramirez
they probably do have something to hide just not what this tinfoil hat wearer thinks
Carter Russell
If they succeed in maintaining the $10k level support a while/much longer. Weeks/months/or more. As more people FOMO in, lightning implemented, bitcoin can be become "too big to fail."
The hope would be that no one notices what they are doing on the rise up to $15-20k+.
If BTC falls below to lower levels, Bitfinex's fear is that more people will try to deposit their tether for USD.
It is only beneficial to Bitfinex if they prop up the price for multiple reasons: 1) They print valueless tether to scoop up BTC valued at about $10,500. They then flip it at higher prices for easy/ profit. 2) Less people will deposit tether if they see BTC rising, & hoping to capture profit. 3) Hoping they can regain solvency in tether in a bull market.
All frauds/ponzis work in a bull market. All of them collapse in bear markets.
There's a reason why BitConnect exited when they saw the signs of the bear market a week ago. They are not stupid. Crooks, but not stupid.
Benjamin Jenkins
Well pajeet, im still waiting for proof that bitfinex has 2 billion sitting in richard basement.
Luke Cooper
You are being paid to post here.
Justin Reyes
It's market share dominance is crumbling from over 85% to 36% in a year. Prep your butthole bb
James Smith
The crypto market is young and Bitcoin has been losing more and more share. How fucking young are you that you think just because something has been that way it can never change?
Colton Butler
>create hundreds and hundreds of shit coins with a billion supply >shit coins have daily volume of $10,000 but marketcap of 100m+ plus >HUUR BITCOIN IS LOSING MARKET DOMINANCE ITS DYING HUUR Holy fuck so many dumb cunts
Nicholas Ward
Gemini, Coinbase are regularly audited.
Your argument that auditing is neither needed, or required of an exchange in this day and age shows your position. Everyone knows that an audit is necessary for a multibillion dollar exchange. You are fooling no one.
Correct.
Yes.
The Bitfinex shills are now making the argument that audits are neither needed or necessary. You underestimate the intelligence of the average /biztard on here. Try harder.
Luis Bailey
Oh sweetie. If BTC goes everything goes. Even [insert altcoin you alled in here] goes along with it. Except maybe XMR. Degenerates love it. How dense you are then
Owen Watson
You implied in your last response that bitcoin has been replaced, yet it hasn't. So now you're avoiding all of that by saying its been losing market share...
Obviously it has been, but it will never be overtaken. That isn't how this works. Remember this post.
Daniel Powell
>Going to place camera on every corner of your home. Going to anally probe you when I please in the case you are hiding illegal substances. You bank accounts audited and all transactions you do I will report to the IRS.
>Nothing to hide.
Bentley Green
You have so many holes in your story OP, you have zero credibility
Connor Butler
I'm considering cashing out at least a fraction of my crypto in the next couple of weeks because I do think BTC will continue its downward trend, though there may be anothert bull run left in it. The thing the market is waiting for is for the alts to decouple themselves from BTC, which is going extinct, and for ETH to take over. My question to you OP is do you think alts that have pairings with ETH will have a better chance of surviving than those that are only paired with BTC? And at what point will BTC stop bringing everything else down (namely ETH) with it?
Brody Parker
AtlasRand1 my man
John Wilson
This. It will happen.
Ryder Mitchell
jesus that's weak
Joseph Garcia
>You implied in your last response that bitcoin has been replaced,
No I didn't you fucking imbecile, I emphasized how your logic doesn't make sense because it exists for only a couple of years. You should just get out you absolute brainlet, you are gonna lose everything.
Levi Walker
Stop using this argument it's retarded. You're saying that the tether is unbacked this way.
Grayson Lopez
Increasingly nervous man
Thomas Reyes
>How dense you are then
Holy shit you are retarded. You think just because something didn't happen in the past it cannot happen?
Blake Thomas
Obviously you dumb faggot, ideally btc trades sideways forever and we all prosper. BTC is litterally cancer, it tanks it drags the whole market down. it pumps the rest of the market dumps and it is functionally USELESS.
Nicholas Scott
You can go ahead and remember this, too. You're completely wrong you fucking brainlet. Since you started using name-calling.