Hey Veeky Forums

Hey Veeky Forums

I'm 23, I've had shitty jobs, where I've been paid little to nothing, I can't even fucking find the motivation to study, literally in life I've always had 100% effort, 5% return, it's been fucking shit and I'm fucking tired. I'm really fucking tired of putting effort into shit for nothing.

I want to see return.

I have no fucking idea what to do, or how to make money, but I really, really want to start making money.


Help me make money Veeky Forums.....
What can I do, with no funds, no particular skills other than a sharp brain, no motivation AS OF YET, and a tired fucking mind ?

I think, seeing some returns for my efforts would be a huge source of motivation for me, what do you suggest I do?

I will be forever grateful to whomever can help me with this, at 23, I'm starting to really hate my life, and life in general, it really sucks to see no returns for your efforts in such a long time guys

find it in your heart to help

and maybe I'll seem like a half assed lazy asshole to some of you, because I know that most people just assume things about other people, and reflect their own insecurities and shortcomings, whilst instead they should ask questions and give people the benefit of the doubt,

but these people can suck major dick.

Other urls found in this thread:

link.smartcontract.com/whitepaper
medium.com/@sergeynazarov/chainlink-an-overview-and-our-focus-14f03335b803
reddit.com/r/LINKTrader/comments/7pqo5t/anyone_know_if_link_is_involved_in_the_europes/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

awome titty.

>I can't even fucking find the motivation to study
sounds like depression op. Go get some fun pills and feel better. OR, get off your ass and go do something, like anything. Meet people, youre young as fuck (reminded how young 23 is last night at the bar). Returns will come but basically since you don't have any experience, nobody is going to pay much. If in fact you are working 100%, then it's going to work out or you need to find a new boss that recognizes your work becuase only about 5% of people actually work 100%.

Buy the coin in pic related. Hodl it like pic related. Keep working, and buying and holding pic related. Stop when pic related is $1000.

I REALLY would like to make money now. Yeah I have depression but I'm not afraid to get out of it.

I don't like drunk people so I'll skip on the bar... and yeah I have troubles getting to like people sometimes... so forget that, and forget the happy pill, I've seen the results on some former friends of mine, and I've seen them go through withdrawals... if you're talking about antidepressants.

if you're talking about drugs I've been there, and I despise the world of narcotics, possibly because I didn't find the right crowd to do them with, but still, no.

I REALLY want returns now... honestly I'm tired of waiting... or saying I have to work for tot years to have a shitty ass return that just allows me to live... why the fuck do I have to put in years to have experience without anything given back to me just to have the possibility of having a fucking living.


fuucjkd. you cant fucking tell me this is fucking right man.

I do work 100%, and I quit my job. I quit everything, I can't stand the people. most bosses dont recognize shit, and most people pay 0% honestly the world of work is fucking shit. I need to learn how to make money ON MY OWN, I really need some help dude, not some perspective.

will you tell me how to make some cash now?

Does this constitute as porn

care to elaborate?

you're saying I should invest 1k into this coin and then I should be good?

reasons? I'm intrested

your mentality is all wrong mate. screenshot what you've just said and look at it in a year. it's ridiculous.

DYOR on coins below 10$ and choose the best 3. at least try to earn your gains so you feel good about YOURSELF otherwise you'll just kill yourself.

>reddit spacing
>long as fuck
go back we don't care

so you're again suggesting investing on crypto currencies? is it seriously that good? you're the second recomendation.

how is my mentality wrong, I live in italy and this has been my experience, everybody asking, nobody giving, believe me when I say I'm fucking exhausted...

I'd love to earn my gains, that's what I'm talking about, I can't depend on people here for income or fair retribution so Ill take things into my own hands now.

and yea killing myself has always been an option. I mean at this point.....

zcl, nigga.

>I know that most people just assume things about other people, and reflect their own insecurities and shortcomings,

>but these people can suck major dick.

here's your tl;dr

was in this situation when I was 23, all I can say is it doesn't get easier. 25 now and all I got is unhealthy methods of coping and those feelings still right under the rug. crypto is helping a lil but recent "dip" and US tax fud got me back in my despresso

I can't tell if that face swap is the most horrifying fucking thing I've ever seen or the most hilarious thing I've seen.

shit bro, stick in the thread we might get some useful information out of this.
BTW for the rest of you, I have no fucking idea about anything, this is my first time on this board even, is investing in coins seriously that big of a deal? it seems like a scam-ish type of bullshit to me.... is it a high success rate type of deal?

seems intresting, wish I bought some when it was 1 dollar though. fuuuuuuck what a return that would've been...

lol you're on biz, 99% of advice you're gonna get will be crypto.
i wouldn't say it's a scam, it's highly speculative. some would say this tech would change the world. look into it, as easy gains ur going to get. expect to lose every penny you put in though so don't go crazy.

OP buy FUN, ICE is the sixth ride the wave buy the dip

would you suggest any other place to ask for help/advice on and/or would you suggest other means of gains, or do you agree with crypto currencies are my best shot?


if the answer's yes what would you say is a good ammount to invest?

>ICE

>FUN

I'm going to need some links to a website that's going to allow me to do that, forgive me I'm fucking new

It's a trap. Don't buy cripple.

Dude, throw whatever money you have to spare at chainlink; you'll thank me later. In the meantime, if you really want to start working for yourself I think you should look into learning web development and getting into making websites for local businesses, it should be quick to learn with big returns if you can become skilled at doing it. In the same boat here, keep your head up user.

Society doesn't allow people far down the dominance hierarchy to be successful. You can study all you want but nobody will ever allow you to work a real job where you're actually going to learn the skills necessary to find stability. It's very difficult to fake it in today's world unless you're able to fake social media profiles with years worth of fake postings and most people would kill themselves before doing that.

That's why everyone here is just riding the reverse funnel schemes known as crypto. It's the only way a white male without a pedigree of looks, status or money to make more than slave money barring crazy luck.

>this
>or try /b/,
Veeky Forums isn't the place you should be posting this larp bullshit, now fuck off back to whence you came, a thread died for this gay shit

Getting rimmed/give anal for crypto?

This is your first time on Veeky Forums huh?

Nearly all of us are crypto investors.

Right now the market is in a slump so it's a good time to get in. We are in an accumulation phase waiting for the next bull run.

There's alot of info here, some of it is excellent, some of it is terrible, and some of it is outright scams.

So be weary. This is a good thread started today:

A whale is paying for tips on the market. This is good info. DYOR and only invest in projects that make sense to you. Even XRP if you believe in it, but I wouldn't let my money touch cRipple.

>this was to the faggot OP, not you based user

love your vibes, love the idea.

what returns are we talking about here? and isn't it supposed to be really complicated?

also why would I only invest in chainlink?

i agree it's the best way. i'm a poorfag from london, england. fell ill at university so had to drop out and been doing manual labour since. i can't see any other way to make it. crypto or bust.

Difficult for me to tell you how much to put in when i don't know ur financial situation. i've put in about a months pay. if i lose every penny then it's no biggie.

Look into the following coins:

VEN
ICX
ENG
REQ
XRB

my advice would be put the money in and just forget about it. look back in a year. then a year after that. in the meantime take other steps to try and make money. any gains is a bonus.

maybe do some ongoing research and put 50 euro into a new coin every couple of months. keep the amount low.

sounds really helpful mate

How do I distinguish garbage information from good information?

what kind of projects make money and what kind of projects are scams?

Yeah I'm completely new, but I appreciate the advice, and I appreciate the time.

you're making a lot of sense here man.

Keep grinding dude. Next time you have a job, try to work for a company with big profits. Billion dollar companies are literally everywhere your eyeballs look. But they’ll give you best chance on getting promoted and working your way up. I was in similar situation when I was your age, I was working two dead end jobs. Now I’m at one, full time pulling $30+ an hour and life couldn’t be better. But. I was in a rough spot for years, til I was 25 or 26. Also I am American, I feel we may have more opportunities here but don’t know much about Italy other than the unsustainable culture of welfare on that continent.

I'm a poorfag from italy, I've helped everyone in my path and received nothing for it, now I realized that I sacrificed the most part of my life, childhood included working, for fuckall.
hope you make it though bro.
so crypto is a long term investment type of deal, or are you suggesting that I treat it like so?

I could spare a hundred euros or two for investment, but only in a couple of weeks, I'm currently broke as fuck, will these names hold by then?

step 1 is to chill out and approach the situation rationally. the biggest hole in poorfags lives is the "sunk cost fallacy" - always thinking about the past, lost opportunities, stuff like that. "because I wasted x amount of time/effort, I suck" - these types of thoughts. that doesn't help you - just live now and move on...

I'm not too sure about Italy since I'm from the US, but I know that you can charge anywhere between 40-100 USD an hour for web development based on how skilled you are. You absolutely need to be able to sell yourself to businesses which is actually pretty easy to do when you've got a few finished websites under your belt. Main three things you should be able to do in your sleep: HTML5, CSS3, Javascript. Once you have those three down you can start learning all the other meme libraries. I highly recommend checking out the web development general over on /g/ for some more resources to help you learn.

Don't listen to anyone else on here about this because they have no fucking clue what they're talking about: Chainlink is going to be the next big innovation in crypto. It essentially connects real world information to the crypto world, more importantly smart contracts which haven't been fully realized yet because they need real world data to work. Do your own research on this project, it's currently 0.80 USD/token right now and I could see it shooting to at least 300 USD/token in the next couple of years. I can't stress how important it is to look into this one user, it will change your life if you do your own research.

everything's dead here, and I'm not exagerating, I really need to self employ, company life is borderline slavery, and promotion, is for those who can act well enough, to convince their bosses they would suck their company's dicks harder than they'd suck their own.
I honestly despise this level of bullshittery, I worked for a major insurance company for a while, I just couldn't stand the people, I couldn't stand the atmosphere, I guess I had a chance, if I see it in the right light, but I hate that kind of life.
I need to self employ, I need to do my intrests, I despise corporate life.

I would recommend only buying Robinhood coins for relatively quick and easy gains. I'm not personally buying DOGE/XRP(I only buy ETH) but I wouldn't be surprised if they mooned due to normie per unit bias.

Jesus Christ screenshot this post like the other user said. This is legitimately pathetic

You don’t get anything worth anything NOW. It takes work and patience

thank you man. you too. yes, long term thing for sure. especially with your capital. don't bother trying to trade on a day by day basis. it can go wrong very quickly. it takes one bad trade to fuck up a good month lol.

you'll be fine in a couple of weeks.

Can you code OP?

true, that has got more to do with self improvement though, and will do exactly jack shit for me finantially.
it's a transition from a state of "pain body" and normality, I can do this, it's not the concern, however I live in the shitty situation, it's not the past only, hence pain body becomes a real issue that needs to be dealt with as a real problem, rather than a change of heart and mind.

also stop fucking generalizing and associating poorness and thought patterns, it makes you an assuming faggot, and nobody, NOBODY in their right mind likes that, so re-think your own mind aswell buddy.

you sound like such a fucking bro. I want to believe. I will research this, and maybe one day I will thank you.

I can sell myself well, and the pay sounds aaaawesome, even just the web development advice is worth this thread.

will I have to learn three different programming languages though??? I tried learning C# once, and it was so fucking complicated.... I believe it might take me a long time to learn three different kinds...

I can not code, and I disagree with you. if you think life has a scheme of how things work, and how things should work, then you are delusional. Life is what life contains: everything, and everything is possible and doable. People like you who stick to one routine and one truth are the real pathetic ones, and the chances are that you are just projecting what you really see in yourself.

considering the good ammount of contribution in this thread, I honestly don't even know why I replied to you .

I seriously appreciate the good vibes. thank you for your time man

Same user here, posting from my PC now because my phone died.

HTML5 and CSS3 are fairly easy to learn, they're technically different languages but they're both so simple to pick up that it's like learning the basics of a language like C#. The only remotely difficult thing to learn is Javascript, but it's not too bad either since there's so many resources you can find online if you find yourself stuck. A big part of web development is knowing how to google problems you run into and figuring things out as you go, you really don't need to know how to code in order to know how to make websites.

I'm putting so much effort into helping you out here because I see myself in your posts. I've been in so many dark places in the past couple of years for many of the same reasons as you, but I managed to pull myself out recently and I think you have a very bright future ahead of you user. Don't ever fucking work for free.

literally brings tears to my eyes.

dude thank you.

Last question, where will I find work on the internet as a web developer? I'm already on the websites to learn HTML5, and I'm just thinking ahead at this point.

is there a marketplace for this kind of thing?

There's websites like what you're describing out there (Upwork, Freelancer, Fiverr, Elance), but most of them are filled with shitty jobs; some good ones hidden in there too though. Here's what I'd recommend you do: using google maps go into street view in your local area and find businesses that either have crappy websites that need updating or ones that don't have websites listed at all, make sure to write down their emails if they have one listed. Keep a list of potential clients that you've built this way and send out a mass email to everyone on that list, maybe visit some of these businesses in person and give them an offer as well. You'd be surprised at how many people are willing to pay you for a quality website.

Web Designer as of the last year or so, can recommend that this advice is solid. Also, a majority of websites (around 20-40% I believe) are powered on WordPress. WordPress basically makes it so you don't have to code, all you have to do basically is buy a theme builder and drag and drop elements. Everything is labeled and it makes it super easy to design websites. I charge a grand per website and usually spend 20-40 hours arranging all the elements. It's a good move if you don't want to work dead end jobs but it takes a lot of willpower to push yourself to do the work daily and find clients.

Glad you pulled through your harsh times, so you could be here to help out today.
I appreciate everything man, I really do, and I wish you a great life, whilst I work on mine.

Good luck, god bless you, for real.

I will definitely check into this aswell, what's the difference between HTML5 CSS3, Java and WordPress quality-wise, and work-wise?

WordPress makes it so you don't have to learn ANY code at all, though its important to be familiar so you can set the elements functionality to be what you want in the CSS if your theme builder doesnt support, but most modern theme builders are VERY easy to use and make great looking websites. Check out Aveda or BeTheme.. All you do is install WP, upload the theme and you are good to go. It's all drag and drop website creation so you are just dragging elements into columns specified by you. WordPress is the easiest as it requires ZERO coding, start there and learn the languages on the side. Programming makes you hella lot more flexible and eventually you can custom code your own themes or websites. Check out HackerRank (website) to learn programming and score possible programming jobs.

Sounds like a great plan, together with the previous user, you've given me a lot of hope man.

I'm already onto the code learning, I'll check out your website as soon as I'm done with my current one.

anything else to add to this?

here's the plan so far:

>1) Practice WordPress to make some websites that I am satisfied with
>2) Learn code on the side, little by little everyday
>3) Make a couple of awesome websites on the cheap on sites like freelancer, upwork or elance so I have something to show for as my work
>4) Look for companies and businesses through the internet and through people I know to find potential customers
>5) Invest at least 1000 euros in ChainLink whilst this is happening, little by little

sounds good to y'all?
I'd say it sounds like a plan.

Sound good dude, better than before you made this thread. Wordpress is good learn too, just make sure you're understanding the fundamentals of web dev and you'll be solid. I recommend adding "build website from scratch" to your list as well. Might be a good idea to get your clients to sign a contract or something just to protect yourself from bullshit, there's plenty of templates you can find online; worry about that later though. Buying chainlink is the second smartest decision you'll ever make next to working for yourself, just buy it and forget you did for a few years and you'll be amazed.

Glad I could help you out, man. I wish you luck in the future and believe you can make something great happen, keep believing in yourself.

Yeah, my dude. That sounds pretty solid. Also do some research on this board and look into other coins to hold. It's totally preference what your portfolio is, but try to keep track of what people talk about here and on other websites or news resources. If you keep seeing a coin being talked about positively, throw some money into it. You have to do some deep digging to find the >$10 investments that can make you a lot but it's a very high risk trading this way. Long term holds as an investment, and just save a % of your web dev. earnings. Think of Crypto earning you free profits through your capital, and web dev. producing initial capital for you to invest and have fun with. I am in the same boat as you where I do not see many returns, but am working hard to change that. I agree with the previous poster in terms of having your clients sign a contract (a basic agreement saying they are paying you to make a website) and possibly securing a small percentage of the total cost as a deposit before even starting.

Italian companies need competent English translation

Places like Rome are absolutely stuffed with Rich tourists, thinking maybe a local guide might pay off well, especially if you can take them out to the countryside

this is what makes me love this website, thanks guys, I've saved all your messages, you've been the family I never had, just for this thread.

love you anons, you make me believe in the internet love machine.

Let's do this shit!!!

>5) Invest at least 1000 euros in ChainLink whilst this is happening, little by little
Fratè, non son sicuro di come ti abbiano convinto ma questa è una cazzata clamorosa a meno che ti escano soldi dal culo

Loro hanno contribuito in modo costruttivo al thread, dando buoni spunti e buoni consigli non solo su questo investimento, che fra l'altro ricercando la compagnia sembra essere buono veramente, ma anche sul coding.

cosa hai contro chainlink?

e soprattutto perchè ti esprimi come se avessi 16 anni?

e scusa se sono offensivo, voglio seriamente capire le tue ragioni, per dire quello che dici, se ti va di condividerle io sono qua per ribaltare una situazione economica disastrosa, ed una vita praticamente persa... l'ultima cosa che voglio è cadere in un altro buco senza fondo

Semplicemente perché, per quanto il problema tecnico affrontato da LINK sia sensato - fornire "oracoli" decentralizzati per garantire l'affidabilità da dati esterni da usare come input per i cosiddetti "contratti intelligenti", non è affatto detto che sarà la loro soluzione ad essere adottata. Investire su LINK resta un grande azzardo che non sono sicuro sia saggio prendere per te.

Come regola generale per gli investimenti in crypto token, occorre diversificare, non puntare solo su LINK.

Sappi inoltre che il periodo dei guadagni facili è passato, e qui è pieno di gente che sparge pessimi consigli per puro fine personale (ad esempio, convincere gente a comprare i propri token...)

Su LINK inoltre, in particolare, si è spesso notato come sia stranamente elogiato così tanto su Veeky Forums, ed insomma, io ci andrei cauto prima di investire buona parte dei miei risparmi.

Ci sono scelte molto meno rischiose, come semplicemente "puntare" su Ethereum, che però evidentemente non ti cambieranno la vita, soprattutto partendo da soli 1000 euro.

Se proprio vuoi fidarti di chi ti ha parlato di LINK e andare all-in, ti consiglio almeno di "dimenticarti" dell'investimento per almeno un anno, perché si tratta di un progetto moooolto a lungo termine: piuttosto che vendere in perdita fra 6 mesi meglio avere pazienza.

Ora una domanda: saresti disposto a trasferirti all'estero per lavoro o c'è qualcosa che ti trattiene in Italia?

Capisco, mi trovo in accordo con ogni cosa che hai detto apparte il modo di esprimersi molto categorico, non ero assolutamente a conoscenza del fatto che Link fosse molto conosciuta e gonfiata su questo sito.

Guardando le criptovalute ho pensato giusto questo: Il periodo è finito, ora sicuramente arrivano solo i coglioni in cerca di guadagno facile senza avere capito che l'occasione è finita, tuttavia non mi dispiace avere un investimento a lungotermine, se può fruttare molto, anche se come dici tu, potrebbe essere un fallimento colossale, l'user in particolare che me l'ha consigliato mi ispira moltissimo

Purtroppo i 1000 euro sarebbero accumulati nell'arco di qualche settimana/mese

non ho assolutamente nulla contro il trasferirmi all'estero, non posso farlo ora perchè non ho soldi, e non ho intenzione di fare un tuffo nel vuoto senza alcuna opportunità buona già nel posto

aiutami ad uscire da questo letamaio di approfittatori ed ipocriti bastardi

Sì, si fa spesso ironia sul fanatismo per LINK che puoi trovare qui dentro. La realtà è che si tratta di un progetto che non viene aggiornato da tempo, senza grandi collaborazioni, con tante promesse ma pochi motivi forti per crederci. E' un progetto su cui magari punti un 10-15% del tuo investimento iniziale, non il 100%.

D'altro canto, dato che i 1000 euro comunque non sarebbero pronti adesso, LINK ha come vantaggio il fatto che non esploderà - ammesso che lo faccia a un certo punto - a breve, quindi hai tutto il tempo di iniziare ad accumulare. Magari metti qualcosa adesso, così inizi ad "ambientarti".

Per me la cosa più importante è informarsi il più possibile, scegliere progetti "seri" ed avere pazienza.

Insomma, si possono ancora fare soldi con le criptovalute, e non pochi, ma bisogna sforzarsi molto di più di prima ed avere anche un pizzico di fortuna.

Detto questo, ti ho chiesto riguardo all'estero perché sono tornato da poco in Italia dopo 10 anni fuori in vari paesi. Pensavo di "stabilizzare" la mia vita tornando nel mio paese natale ma quel che ho trovato mi ha amareggiato. Dopo sei mesi volevo già andare via ma purtroppo questa scelta di carriera mi ha un po' spezzato le gambe. Ma quel che voglio dire è che ti capisco su quanto dici riguardo all'Italia. Io qui faccio il consulente legale, guadagno anche abbastanza bene, ma certe cose mi fanno vomitare, e temo che a lungo andare andrei a finire per essere "come loro".

Tornare a studiare per poi concludere all'estero lo escluderesti?

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esattamente quello che dici, spesso mi sento di stare resistendo l'influenza di ciò che mi circonda, perchè l'italia è un postaccio in quanto ad influenze... mai dire mai, fare un salto nel buio se hai un capitale che può permettertelo può essere una ottima scelta piuttosto che rimanere bloccato qua, ricorda che trovare scuse per non fare nulla è una cosa troppo da italiano medio...

capisco benissimo quello che mi dici, vorrei davvero avere un mentore o comunque qualcuno che mi spiegasse bene cosa cercare nelle criptovalute, e come investire bene, ora che mi hai spiegato bene questo investimento ad esempio mi sento assolutamente disilluso, e te ne sono grato.

se dovessi tornare a studiare, tornerei a studiare Filosofia all'università, e non parliamo di grandi sbocchi lavorativi... quindi sì, lo escluderei, e soprattutto non è ciò che sto cercando, ovvero un riscontro economico... credimi ho lavorato già abbastanza da averne pieni i coglioni, voglio iniziare a fare soldi davvero, ma qua mi sento in una gabbia con quattro opportunità, quasi tutte che rasentano la schavitù.

io sono stato via per un anno, stessa cosa, sono tornato perchè infondo pensavo che casa mia mi mancasse... ma io dopo due giorni me ne sono pentito, neanche sei mesi, due giorni.

ora sono passati circa 3 anni, e sono alle ultime goccie

>abloo ablooo my country sucks
>doesn't go away because mom's spaghetti

cucchi del cazzo

>posti stronzate che non aiutano e ti senti meglio degli altri
>in segreto quello che ti sta sul cazzo non sono io, sei tu stesso

ma vediamo chi è il cucco, che i coglioni come te li fanno con lo stampino.

fabiovolo/10

benvenuto nel mondo di chi non è nato col babbo ricco, mo tirati su le braghe, asciugati il moccio e lavora

mi fai sorridere :) pensi di essere divertente? pensi che freghi a qualcuno delle stronzate che scrivi?

user, quanti anni hai? rispondimi

vedi che ti ho dato pure la risposta? :) sei contento?

Hey man, saw your thread was still up and noticed some other anons were giving some more suggestions which is good. Since most of these new posts were in italian I had to use google translate which might have caused some confusion.

I still highly recommend that you, at the very least, do some research on the project yourself before either investing in it or dismissing it. When you get the chance, give these a read:

>link.smartcontract.com/whitepaper
>medium.com/@sergeynazarov/chainlink-an-overview-and-our-focus-14f03335b803
>reddit.com/r/LINKTrader/comments/7pqo5t/anyone_know_if_link_is_involved_in_the_europes/

I noticed one criticism that was brought up was that there's little communication from those working on the project, but this isn't true. Most of the communication by the team happens in their slack channel instead of on twitter like most projects. The team seems to care more about actually getting their product working rather than creating false hype surrounding it like most other crypto projects do.

Anyways, just make sure to do your own research if you're interested, I think that's the smartest thing you could do here. I also forgot to mention that if you're looking to learn HTML and CSS that W3schools is a good resource for a beginner, goodluck dude.

Io sto facendo di tutto per tornare nel Paese dov'ero ma non è facile, la competizione è molto alta. Facevo un lavoro che mi piaceva molto di più ma era meno stabile di quel che faccio ora.

Ora ho stabilità ed ho scoperto che non è quello che voglio.

Tornando alle criptovalute, dato che il tuo capitale iniziale è relativamente limitato, dovresti informarti su come investire su ICO promettenti, ed andare avanti così per un po'.

Per quanto riguarda modi per mettere da parte un po' di soldi facilmente, ti consiglio di informarti sul matched betting se non ne hai mai sentito parlare.

Però non so, sarà l'umore di oggi, ma mi sento pessimista e ti consiglierei più che altro di trovare un lavoro che possa piacerti, o almeno imparare skills utili nel mondo del lavoro anche fuori, ad esempio linguaggi di programmazione.

hey man, yeah I'll browse this thread till it dies, I'm always up for some input.

obviously I'll do my own research don't worry about that, but it's intresting to have some inputs, and definitely intresting if the other user followed up with the advice, but for us italians I think it's a little harder to relate to one another, so I think he gave up.

good info on the website, I'm saving this message too for further research, don't worry I haven't dismissed anything.

>I noticed one criticism that was brought up was that there's little communication from those working on the project, but this isn't true. Most of the communication by the team happens in their slack channel instead of on twitter like most projects.
That was me, and yeah, I didn't know about their slack channel.

The thing is, still, I wouldn't go 100% all in on any project... Anyway, I gotta say their white paper is one of the most professionally written

riassumiamo
>studiavi filosofia
>meme studies
>non sai fare un cazzo
>hai quittato lavori perchè muh preso male frate che brutta questa vita
>vi prego fatemi fare soldi ora
>voglio un mentore che mi faccia fare soldi
>rispondi passivo aggressivo come una checca a tutti quelli che ti danno del coione
>btw è colpa dell'italia non mia
>:)

guarda user, c'hai 6 anni in meno di me, quasi 7: di merda ne hai ancora da ingoiare un bel po', quindi prepare your anus. questa fase è la babby's first crisi dei mid-20.

buono che hai già capito l'andazzo, male che pensi che le soluzioni te le possano servire gli altri su un piatto d'argento.

lavora. su tutto. su te stesso, sulle tue conoscenze e sui soldi perchè non esistono tendenzialmente scappatoie rapide. esistono però cose che ti faranno sentire vivo e ti attiveranno il cervello.

il tuo piano fa acqua perchè non è frutto di quello che vuoi fare te o di quella che è la tua indole.

>muh wordpress
>muh coding

ti piace almeno sta roba? perchè sennò ti infilerai in un mercato competitivo e saturato, pieno di gente che c'ha dedicato la vita perchè son dei power autistici che amano stringhe di codice più della figa.

da gente come me non hai da temere un cazzo.
dai liscissimi figli di puttana che ti sorridono e ti consigliano modi per fare soldi rapidi invece riceverai dei gran bei dildoni.

>ocio

Bravo batman , questa m è piaciuta assai

It's all good, their slack can be hard to find. They're definitely an interesting team for sure, that's why I'm so optimistic about it. I probably wouldn't recommend going all in on a project especially for someone in OP's situation, but I think chainlink is an exception here. I've never felt so sure about any other crypto project based on everything I've researched about it.

>ti piace almeno sta roba? perchè sennò ti infilerai in un mercato competitivo e saturato, pieno di gente che c'ha dedicato la vita perchè son dei power autistici che amano stringhe di codice più della figa.
fondamentale
Well, you convinced me looking more into it. By the way, what do you think about REQ?

Req is another solid project, I'm holding some of it as well. Bought in back when it was around 0.04 USD.

+ mi dispiace sentirti pessimista oggi, mi interessa molto quello che hai detto, mi sono informato brevemente sul matched betting e mi sembra una cosa da provare per lo meno, meglio spendere soldi per provare ad uscire da sta situazione, che spenderli per qualsiasi altra cosa.

sarebbe bello trovare un lavoro che possa piacermi, credo che quello sia il sogno di tutti, purtroppo non ho avuto questa fortuna fino ad ora, anzi le esperienze che ho avuto mi hanno portato a pensare che la soluzione migliore è quella di lavorare per me stesso.


questo thread mi ha dato molti spunti buoni sui quali iniziare una ricerca, anche se mentre monitoro il thread... sto imparando HTML5

ma mi salvo il tuo messaggio come spunto da cercare per iniziare a giocare con le criptovalute, apprezzo molto il tuo input e ti ringrazio infinitamente.

ogni consiglio è oro, spero veramente di riuscire, user.

Bot not the vanilla LINK. The shadowforks are way more profitable.

Good meme lad

You dont even need to code when using wordpress. Pirate the avada theme and practice with it on localhost. The code you will use are code snippets and theyre basic & easy. For advanced sites knowledge of coding is required.

Get em before thy hit the big echanges.

>non sai nulla di me... e stai postando solo per sentirti meglio, riguardo ad un ego che con ESTREMA probabilità si sente fragile, in quanto il tuo approccio consiste nello sminuire la posizione degli altri per essere in grado di inserirsi nel gruppo.

>ripeto... non sai un cazzo di me, ma soprattutto degli altri, e parli di fiducia per esperienze personali negative che ti hanno segnato personalmente più di quanto tu non voglia ammettere, e per questo ti senti in dovere di intervenire provando agli altri quanto tu sappia di più, in un thread dove i tuoi post sono più tossici che costruttivi, non avendo considerazione, eppure aspettandoti che ti ascolti.

non penso che tu sia maturo abbastanza per renderti conto delle contraddizioni e di quanto sia stupido quello che scrivi...

è dalla gente che dice che non devi avere paura di loro, invece che devi guardarti le spalle

sei probabilmente in un momentaccio in questo momento, e ti sei sentito di fare questo post

ok

ti senti meglio ora?

Wasted like a mufugg

se lo dici tu

>la soluzione migliore è quella di lavorare per me stesso
Sei ancora giovane e hai i mezzi per provarci, impegnati al massimo e vedi come va. Trova qualcosa che ti appassiona e cerca di trasformarlo in una fonte di reddito.

Detto questo, non per scoraggiarti, ma la maggior parte della gente è costretta a trovare soddisfazioni fuori dal lavoro, ho lavorato in tanti paesi e in tanti contesti diversi e volendo c'è sempre qualcosa di cui lamentarsi. Non avere un capo è una gran cosa, ma d'altro canto può essere molto stressante.

Ad ogni modo, l'importante è che t'impegni, datti da fare ed i risultati arriveranno. In bocca al lupo e buonanotte.

) Invest at least 1000 euros in ChainLink whilst this is happening, little by little
Chainlink wont take off for a long while, user. Do your own research and find other coins with quicker profit rate.

ma veramente sei te che stai a fare lo psicologo di cioè, io ho elencato i fatti:

>non sai fare un cazzo
>sei disperato
>non ne uscirai domani

brutto sentirselo dire? grazie al cazzo. ma se manco riesci a sopportare una voce anonima su Veeky Forums, spiegami come farai a sopportare tutte le tonnellate di merda che ti dovrai sorbire nel mondo del lavoro. non dico solo aziendale, che hai già sperimentato, ma anche freelance.

vuoi un piano più reale?
1) trovati un lavoro. non dico il lavoro della vita, ma na roba semi-decente che ti permetta di vivere senza miseria economica o spirituale

2) resisti

3) mentre che resisti, trovati la tua nicchia d'interessi che ti faccia sentire vivo e che possa essere, si spera un'abilità monetizzabile un giorno

3b) wordpress o un linguaggio di codice vanno bene, ma è roba che è in giro da anni e ripeto il mercato è già bello che definito. le cryptovalute sono ancora in uno stato di semi wild west. è per questo che qui ci sguazziamo tutti

4) resisti

5) coi soldi che hai messo da parte ingoiando merda (o se il tuo interesse è decollato) ora puoi iniziare il tuo business ed essere indipendente

6) sennò resisti, riprovaci o ammazzati

si la qualità dei consigli si sta abbassando :) è un grande clichè dire di trovare qualcosa che ti appassiona, in realtà si trova la passione in quello che si fa.

figurati, ho i miei buoni motivi per volere cercare lavoro senza avere un capo, e penso che ne valga lo sforzo...

notte user!

Severo ma giusto. OP, quel che ti manca è la voglia di lavorare.

You definitely have ADHD, get some Adderall nigga.

He's just lazy

ascolta, che faccia lo psicologo di cioè o meno, non cambia il fatto che ancora le tue frasi si basano su una manica di supposizioni(lo so perchè ne hai cannate parecchie), per questo è abbastanza ovvio per me, 1 che sei ignaro di te stesso, 2 che quello che scrivi ha più a che fare con te stesso, che con me. è semplice psicologia di base(che ho studiato fra l'altro ;) vedi, qualcosa la so fare), stai proiettando.

ora cosa vuol dire questo?

in primo luogo, che non mi tocca minimamente quello che scrivi, ma mi diverte.

in secondo luogo, non avendo di meglio da fare, mi dai qualcosa da scrivere, e mi aiuti a liberare la mente fra una nozione di HTML5 e l'altra, altrimenti scoppio.

quindi ti ringrazio

al diavolo, comunque si è fatta l'ora, vado a dormire anche io, buona notte


thank you to everybody that contributed to this,
you've been a real bro, I'm going to bed now, goodnight :)

classica spiegazione italiana, ad uno a cui il sistema non va bene, lavoro da quando ho 10 anni, prima nel ristorante di famiglia con i debiti, poi per "amici di famiglia" poi per i cazzi miei, sei marcio amico, per piacere cambia tu, non provare a cambiare gli altri, nessuno dovrebbe essere come te.

buona notte

No matter what you choose to do, have a plan and a backup plan.
Do not invest what you're not ready to lose and most of all DYOR.

>studia html5 da un'ora e mezza massimo
>scoppia

kek buona fortuna negro
fai pure qualche corso di reading comprehension magari :^)

Ne ho visti tanti come te, fate tutti la stessa fine. Ti annoierai in una settimana. Va a dormire che è meglio.

Kek