Communist crypto thread

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>im le communist guise
>Partakes in unregulated capitalism
Yeah we get it you guys are hypocrites as always

crypto is going to be the end of the US dollar and bring down the united states, well at least up until they ban it soon to save themselves

>decentralization is much more socialist/communist than it is libertarian.

The means justify the ends.
If you sell on top of the pump you take the whales wealth, thereby creating more equality.
Taking wealth back from the rich is already communism.
Selling low is capitalism because it keeps the whales rich.

now thats what i call mental gymnastics!

why wouldn't we want to partake in something that could potentially destroy the banks?

Distributing what coins I have left, first 10 to join get it. Enjoy it commies.

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>My sell orders are magically executed against a particular group of people because of reasons
If you did anything else other than buying BTC at 20 cents you already made some whale's profits by buying at a higher price of what they paid for, anything else you're just cutting profits from your fellow man

You're the perfect kind of useful idiot that keeps the elite in power, good goy

Not how this works at all. Someone bought the amount you sold at the top, and it does not need to come from a whale. It probably didn’t. You’re using pretzel logic to justify the fact you participate in a zero-sum, capitalist game.

You best be NazBol or you get the oven kike.

Because Bolshevism was sponsored by banks to enslave all.

this
low iq communists so gud.

I am a Stalinist. Is that red-pilled enough?

Stop using libertarian to mean capitalism. Libertarianism means one thing and one thing only - minimal or no state. It does not imply an economic system. However, the goal of communists is to establish a stateless society free of (((private property))), which makes commies the true libertarians. Modern libertarians are all hardcore capitalists because they are too dumb to realize that (((private property))) only exists when there is a state to uphold it.

hows it like being this retarded?

How would this even work? Everyone pajeet would buy in with 1 coin and get the same reward. It would eventually devalue the coin to nothing.

Communism doesn't work.

It's a step in the right direction at least.

Can't wait until I can buy you a helicopter ride with RC.

There is just one right direction.. The direction against (((capitalism)))

good luck

Libertarian is associated with communism because free trade is a nearly natural state of man. When our retard ape ancestors traded spear heads for spear shafts they were engaging in free trade. You fucking dumb cunt.

Capitalism*

Pure communism and pure capitalism are two sides of the same shekel. The end result is the same. And curiously, the same ethnic group ends up at the top of both. Everyone's favorite longnosed tribesmen.

Those guys were socialists killed by either capitalists or guys that later became capitalists, lol.

I will just do a Sybil Attack and be fucking le bourgeoisie

How can pure communism possibly be the same thing. Capitalism is where you own the shit you make, communism is where everyone owns everything and everyone ends up killing each other like faggots. Jews end up at the top because they focus on education, working hard and saving money. It's not a conspiracy you lazy autistic fsggots.

I think you should read Stalin's writings on that issue. So far you're acting in the capitalist interests yourself.

You mean an eco friendly proof of work crypto that only pays the government who then pays all of it's citizens an equal share of the profits.

No, Jews end up at the top because they are an incredibly ethnocentric group that always works for their group interest while convincing the goyim around them to treat everyone equally. Without their rampant nepotism and favoritism of other Jews they wouldn't get anywhere.

Actually private property can exist in a stateless scenario when I'm armed to the teeth and stronger than you

>Capitalism is where you own the shit you make

have you had a job? you mean where your corporate master owns the things you make with your labor and rewards you with some scraps

This. Jews just destroy the nepotistic values of other groups via white guilt and then continue to benefit from nepotism within their own tribe.

Communists need to die.

They want to destroy crypto lmao
You can't be a communist and support a DECENTRALIZED CURRENCY.
Fucking brainlets.

Eceryone knows proof of stake is a capitalist concept. Whats an investment durf

What about money skele?

>private property))) only exists when there is a state to uphold it.

LOL
It's incredible how stupid socialists are.
Every example of real anti-statism in history had private property upheld in one form of another.
Medieval Iceland
Medieval Ireland
American midwest in 1800s
Neurtral Moresnet
Hell even the so called "anarchist" areas of somalia today have private property and CURRENCY

Your entire ideology is a joke.

>he still unironically believes in exploitation theory which has been debunked a million times
>he still actually beleives the capitalist controls wage rates magically somehow and there is no such thing as a labour market

Also if the capitalist class gave all of the profits from the firm to the workers and workers went to go spend that money it would simply cause massive price increases because the supply of consumer goods doesn't increase.

Socialism is a fucking religious death cult filled with fallacies.
kys bootlicking kike

Crypto is going to destroy the CENTRAL banks, and the banks that benefit from central banking.

It's destroying anti-capitalist/anti-free market institutions.
It's also going to destroy communism as you faggots will be forced to get high paying jobs in the booming economy when this is all over.

Free trade of that nature is not capitalist, that's just trading your stuff. Capitalism implies (((private property))) not personal property. You are entitled to your spear head so long as you are capable of preventing others from taking it. You can try to rent property to fellow retard apes, but good luck enforcing that. Private property is the most artificial state of being possible.

it's critical support, clearly crypto succeeding would be in our best interests even if some are too short sighted to realize it

>Capitalism implies private property not personal property.
Literally nobody cares about these made up definitions except you fucking losers.
free markets mean private property

>You can try to rent property to fellow retard apes, but good luck enforcing that.
Extremely easy. This is how it worked in countless anti-statist societies, you brainlet.

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>allowing white people to own their own fucking property is (((jewish)))
Nice try moshie.

>clearly crypto succeeding would be in our best interests
No it wouldn't.
lol first off almost all of you are against crypto and your comrades would hate you for using it
also if it succeeds, it means a free market currency succeeds which vindicates libertarianism

Anyone with a gun will have just as much "private property" as you so it won't be able to be utilized in coercive ways like it is today.

Cryptogeouise reporting in.
BTFOing the fiatariats with my new found crypto gains

Stalin did ok because he injected a little nationalism into the Soviet Union and purged some of the most degenerate Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks (Jews) wanted globalist communism where they could prey on their host people undetected as a group.
There is no problem with capitalism within a nation. Competition breeds innovation and having the government try to manage exactly how many pieces of bread every backwater grocery store buys is retarded and way too much overhead. The main problem with pure capitalism is when it goes international. When big multinational corporations are allowed to screw over your people because muh free market. Pure capitalism ends up in a place even more 1984-tier than communism. There are other things that need regulation as well like drugs and porn and such, a hybrid system is best.
Take the third position, capitalism vs. communism is a false dichotomy.

Modern Marxist Communists should be executed.

And this is from someone who grew up in a poor working class town. Fucking rats faking disability, sitting on their asses, ripping off the state, claiming comp, and popping out children for extra dough. All the while sitting in their free houses with 50 inch tv.

Cunts have the audacity to then ask for repairs and free upgrades for their houses. Makes you want to turn libertarian.

Any entity with private property is essentially a state. Private property is that which enables you to control others. Controlling others = a state.

>Anyone with a gun will have just as much "private property" as you so it won't be able to be utilized in coercive ways like it is today.
lol yes it would and always was in anti statist societies

These definitions are so retarded.
I have a house that my family and I live in.
Suddenly I buy some capital and start producing ice cream or something and I hire 2 workers(who voluntary come to my property and begin working).

Suddently this is now "private property"?
This shit is retarded.

>Any entity with private property is essentially a state.
No it's not lmao
Private property successfully existed many times without a state

>Private property is that which enables you to control others. Controlling others = a state.
lmao what the fuck, none of this makes sense
if people voluntarily work on my farm and I pay them, I'm not controlling them, they chose to do this

We also want to destroy the central banks. It's a mutual interest. High paying jobs in a booming economy would be a great short term improvement for the workers and yes, like most liberal ideas, it would serve to delay communism. But the inherent contradictions of capitalism would persist, the relations of production would still be the same and the inevitable would still eventually happen.

Crypto will fund free market helicopter rides for commies.

I can't fucking wait.

> Extremely easy. This is how it worked in countless anti-statist societies, you brainlet.

How was private property upheld in these societies? Private armies? Wouldn't that end up essentially being a state?

>lol first off almost all of you are against crypto and your comrades would hate you for using it

My comrades in DPRK are fine with it

>We also want to destroy the central banks.
Because you want to create your own communist central banks.
Marx supported central banking in the communist manifesto, also all socialist countries created central banks.
Communists love central banks.
Crypto and libertarians want to destroy them.
Look how much of a hypocrite you are.
Almost all of your comrades strongly disagree with you.

>it would serve to delay communism.
Communism isn't inevitable.
Sorry, Jesus isn't coming back.
Your dialectical materialism religion makes no sense.
Communism is in the dustbin of history.

>But the inherent contradictions of capitalism would persist
There are contradictions in capitalism.
Marx's criticism's of capitalism have been debunked millions of times.
Meanwhile there are countless contradictions in marxism.

>relations of production
lmao remember when marx said that wages and conditions for workers would fall down to a subsistence level and this would lead to the communist revolution?
That didn't happen. Poverty rates are declining rapidly worldwide lmao

>All the while sitting in their free houses with 50 inch tv
Amen. Most of these fucks didn't work a single day in their sheltered existence.

>How was private property upheld in these societies? Private armies?
Yes.
Polycentric law.

>Wouldn't that end up essentially being a state?
No, a state is a monopoly on law.
Read a book brainlet.

>My comrades in DPRK are fine with it
North korea is okay with anyone buying and selling crypto?
Nigger please.

>There are contradictions in capitalism.
aren't***

What are you talking about? The Soviet Union was the most innovative country of the 20th century. The first to go into space. Just look up how Stalin modernized and industrialized the country from an agrarian shithole. (((Capitalism))) is purely (((their))) invention, it's driven by dishonesty and greed, and only (((they))) can benefit from it. If you want to take power away from them, you must abolish capitalism, dishonesty and greed. Moreover, you clearly haven't read Stalin's writings on nationalism. Nationalism is a bourgeois concept and you're basically playing into the hands of the ruling elite. "Divide and conquer", the old technique used by capitalists. Only united, the proletariat can overthrow the elites. So far you're clearly acting in (((their))) capitalist interests.

> if people voluntarily work on my farm and I pay them, I'm not controlling them, they chose to do this

Oh they are just doing it for fun?

>The Soviet Union was the most innovative country of the 20th century
No it wasn't.
It was a stagnant shithole that poorly ripped off most inventions from the west.
What do you think happens when people aren't allowed to innovate unless they go through corrupt state bureaucracy?

Not saying there weren't some innovations but it was mostly low hanging fruit compared to what the west did.

>(((Capitalism))) is purely (((their))) invention
No capitalism was created by white people you dumb kike.

>Nationalism is a bourgeois concept and you're basically playing into the hands of the ruling elite.
HAHAHAHA
You are repeating what the jews constantly spew in the media every day.

they actually believe that capitalist wage labor is a voluntary transaction and not something in which people are forced to participate in order to not die

I mean, in our world today we have the USA competing with Russia/China/etc. Isn't that polycentric law?

And what do you do when one private army wins out and monopolizes the society, which will inevitably occur since monopolies are inevitable in unregulated markets?

Stop larping as being a proletarian you marxist piece of shit.

>destroy the banks

There would still be banks. Banks would potentially have more power over the state in a bitcoin world.

They are trading their labour for money.
Nobody is controlling them or forcing them to do this.
They had nothing before, now they are getting something.

>pic related
>which people are forced to participate in order to not die
You have to produce/acquire resources in order not to die you fucking idiot.
Capitalism just makes getting those resources easier.
It's not like capitalism took all of the resources and made it so people have to enslave themselves to get scraps.
I already refute this here but you couldn't respond to me:

>It was a stagnant shithole that poorly ripped off most inventions from the west.
nah, they had a good run until 70s
props must be given for the quick recovery from civil war

Nobody thinks this, not even libertarians. The entire point of it is to eliminate the need for banks. Could you at least explain your reasoning

>I mean, in our world today we have the USA competing with Russia/China/etc. Isn't that polycentric law?
Nope.
Those are individual monopolies on law.
Statism is a monopoly on law in a specific geographic region.
In these areas there is only 1 monopoly in each of these regions.

>And what do you do when one private army wins out and monopolizes the society
Impossible with market competition.

>since monopolies are inevitable in unregulated markets?
They aren't inevitable.
It's free markets that destroys monopolies.

fpbp

>Just look up how American companies under Roosevelt modernized and industrialized the country from an agrarian shithole

>nah
lol yeah
In my everyday life I probably use 0.01% of what the USSR created. Meanwhile almost everything else came from western FREEDOM.

This.
Commies don't even know that american companies is what industrialized the USSR lmao
voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

>implying communists don't want that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

When I started crypto, I thought it was a great money redistribution scheme.

Then I learnt crypto has a ton of market manipulation, scammers and impatient stupid ppl with wishful thinking.
I decided, that it is in no way money redistribution, as rich and smart get richer off the less fortunate ones.

But hey, crypto still offers any person a chance to get even a bit richer, if they decide to play it safe. Im not talking a new house rich, but a car repair richer, a personal tutor richer, one memorable vacction richer.
So I started talking to my friends, telling them, they should give it a try. Do not invest much, I can help you.

But they refused and called it a bubble.
When I doubled, tripled, quadrupled my small 2k investment, their behaviour changed.
They started to expect gimmedats from me. We used to go dutch in pubs, now some of them expect me to give them a 10-20% discount.
I have never expected this from my friends. Never again I am talking to them.

They still have an opportunity to participate, I can help them, teach them what small experience I gained in these months, but no. They want to take zero risk, put in zero money, spend zero research time and then get free money from an acquaintance.

Fuck this commie shit. I earned this money. You just want me to share I put effort into. This effort may look insignificant to you, but still you refused the opportunity to make this effort.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism
I love accelerationist marxists.
I really do.

They support all of my policies thinking it will lead to the fall of capitalism but in reality it will only strengthen it.

Wtf I love capitalism now

Is that why they always vote for parties that decelerate capitalism?

I love anarcho-capitalists
I really do.

They support all of my policies thinking it will lead to the strengthening of capitalism but in reality it will only cause it to fall

If you trade in crypto you are bourgeois as fuck.

Embrace it and laugh at commie nocoiners who will stay inevitably poor waiting for capitalism to "collapse".

you're comparing the necessity of participating in capitalist wage labor to survive under capitalism and the fact that it's a coerced transaction and not voluntary, to the necessity of participating in nature in a hunter-gather society, a laughable false comparison and I remain unconvinced

this is a fun way to kill time while my coins go up though

>communism is about hating groups of people and not the system
No only retards believe that

This is what commies actually believe.

After every single marxist theory gets debunked you still unironically believe in marxist flat earth tier pseudoscience. It's truly hilarious.

Nobody said commies were intelligent.

People would still want to acquire debt and credit. Banks would be institutions that lend money, and the state would no longer control the issuance of money. When the state finances its budget through selling debt, it would be in a fundamentally weaker position. Like Greece in the Eurozone, or Puerto Rico right now. Greece can't create euros, and Puerto Rico can't create dollars. Their creditors are looking at their insolvency and telling them how they need to organize their budgets and programs such that they can continue to finance their debt and not go bankrupt. The United States doesn't have this problem, since they can always pay anybody in dollars.

So if the United States had to borrow bitcoin, it'd be in a similar position. The banks clearly have plenty of power over the state right now, but it is more in corruption.

Mostly ignored by those faggots because it destroys their imaginary concept of crushing fascist germany on their own. They don't like to wake up to the fact that they couldn't have done shit without the supplies of their oh so hated western capitalist pigs.

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best friends forever

>Nobody is controlling them or forcing them to do this.
So they are just doing it for fun?

> It's not like capitalism took all of the resources and made it so people have to enslave themselves to get scraps.
Hahaha. Yes, thats totally not at all what is happening.

If I own private property like a farm, I can force people to work on it because if they don't they will die. I can pay them scraps because its more than they would otherwise have. Hell if it weren't for state regulations I could make them suck my dick for scraps. But according to you they are voluntarily sucking my dick, lmao.

>you're comparing the necessity of participating in capitalist wage labor to survive under capitalism
You don't have to do that in capitalism.
You can go live in the forest if you want to, or you could start your own business.
The hunter gatherer society point makes perfect sense. In nature you have nothing, capitalists providing you a job is actually giving you somewhere where you had nothing before.
How is this coercive?

>coerced transaction and not voluntary
It's not coerced.
Nobody is forcing you to work for anybody.
I don't know why this is so difficult for you brainlet.

>this is a fun way to kill time while my coins go up though
The fact you claim to be a marxist and are still participating in crypto is so fucking hilarious.
Your comrades think you're a traitor, and you truly are.

KEK

>tfw Marx didn't even give a shit about poor people when writing his Manifesto it's literally just an Ultra-Nostradamus tier prediction with meme logic based on 19th century economic observations