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>Let's embrace bread lines just because we're not getting rich with out imaginary coins!

Hey look, it's the two most retarded political ideologies that have consistently low iq (and equally irritating) followings.

I love how you weasels come out of the woodwork right when things get bad

Veddit or bait
YOU decide

back to your containment website you fucking kike

> unironically supporting communism/fascism
> thinking life would be any different under the two for 99% of people

I know it's hard for you to critically think, but read a book sometime you absolute brainlet

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good, during massive economic crashes we can get more Fascists and Commies fighting and gaining power

As an anarcho-communist I gave up on expecting people to read anything years ago. I understand my position, I've read Berkman, Kropotkin and god forbid even Marx--fuck Marx, he's an authoritarian.

I've also read Ayn Rand and Mein Kampf in order to better understand my opposition. All movements need intellectuals user, it is our job to guide the fuckers towards a better future regardless of our ideology.

As to all you other faggots, read up on your positions, their criticisms and actually put yourself in your opponents shoes. Otherwise you're just another brainlet lemming.

National socialism. It is rebranded socialism, seriously that is all it is, a socialist government with even more authoritarian power. If you support natsoc you are just as much a socialist as a bernie supporter.

Basically the argument is, do you want an all powerful government or not? Communism and natsoc are both systems that give the government godlike powers, completely authoritarian. If you spoke out against either the Reich or the Soviet govt as a citizen you would be executed, no ifs ands or buts.

Can Communism and fascism be successful? Of course! The ussr was immensely powerful. But both ideologies lack free trade and free speech, both of which are necessary for economic and technological proliferation. What we can see from history is that free trade and free speech (romans, usa, brits, currently the japs, etc) is the best form of government.

Libertarianism and capitalism are the natural human forms of society. Any form of collectivism is a cancer.

>anarcho-communist

Of course. I'm a Conservative Libertarian.
>tfw no small government with an emphasis on civil liberties and free trade

A man can dream

you don't have a fucking clue, Marx said the state would wither away, so why don't you read him

What's this called but also as an ethnostate with strong outside threat deterrents.

>tfw no small government with an emphasis on civil liberties and free trade

literally only existed when the country was anglo

>so why don't you read him
yeah 2,5k pages of crazy ramblings, have fun with that

I'm ok with an entirely white country 2bh

fucking sauce

QUICK STOCKS ARE TANKING

WE GOTTA START A FAMINE. BRING THE COMMUNISTS

>dude why read what I want to criticize when I can make shit up

Libertarians are consistently the lowest IQ ideologues

mr potato party I think

1900s english to difficult four mee

>socialism is when the government does stuff

>Anarcho communist
>An authoritarian state where noone is in charge?

For Commies to hang?

Finally.

I disagree, the nazis called themselves socialists to appeal to the German working class and once they gained power purged all the actual socialists.

Fascism in Nazi Germany saw increased privatization and power to corporations. Hitler himself often had to appeal to corporate interests to complete his wartime production goals. Fascism is an authoritarian form of capitalism, but it sure as hell isin't socialism, which would see the end of private ownership.

Socialism is a transitional phase in between capitalism and communism, where communism would "theoretically" take the form of a stateless, moneyless and classes society. All true communists are anarchists in this regard, all others are fucking counterevolutionaries but just won't admit it. (How do you magically expect the state to wither away again you tankie fucks?)

The U.S.S.R was not a communist country, in fact it could be argued it was never truly socialist either once the Bolsheviks took control. Not asking you to become a communist or anything, but fucking educate yourself because the amount of bullshit spewing from your mouth is unbelievable.

By the way, I understand that lefties like me have not actually figured out how to create that ideal society, although that won't stop me from trying.

If it blows your mind that there exist communists that support gun rights, denounce the U.S.S.R and want to abolish government than maybe you don't actually know what communism is.

>Marx said the state would wither away
which never works, and this is exactly the crux why communism doesn't and will never work

It's based on the state giving up power on its own which will literally never happen

fuck you both thanks

buy the dip
strong support... haha at f-f-f-ive k

> wanting an ethnostate
> thinking an ethnostate is even possible, especially in the modern world

The vast majority of the world has mixed dna on some level. How would you enforce an ethnostate? What country would want to do business with a country that saw them as subhumans? Who is truly white? According to a lot of poltards even most Europeans aren't truly white, the nazis even thought slavs were subhuman since they had mongol rape blood in them. An ethnostate cannot and will not ever exist, if you looked into history you'd see why it is not possible especially in the modern world

>The U.S.S.R was not a communist country,
yes, it was, and those that say it wasn't a liberal cowards who care about optics.

worker coops are not communism.

>be leftist anarchist
>get kill by marxist leninists
Will you people ever learn?

Look, just choose whether you're part of the hydra or the man. That's it.

>calls Nationalsocialism:
>nazim (kike invented term)
>fascism (nope)
>socialism (implying it means economics and is of the leftist type, both of which are totally wrong)

Retard spotted.

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this is also what i think of commies and reichfags

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Nice argument, brainlet. You're too low iq to counter the argument cause you realize now that your ethnostate fantasy is a pipe dream that will never happen or ever be supported by a government, university, or business. Neck yourself

>put yourself in your opponents shoes
I'm not a communist faggot, so I'm not putting on their AIDs infected anything retard

even some afrocentrist website is more coherent than this shit

>we wuzzzz socialism n shit not uu

>What we can see from history is that free trade and free speech (romans, usa, brits, currently the japs, etc) is the best form of government.

EXTREMELY low iq post

> Being this retarded

Nazism is socialism you fucking retard, it is a form of state enforced collectivism, end of story. You might as well put up bernie signs, the only difference between bernie and Hitler is that bernie wants to collectivize everyone and Hitler wanted to only collectivize his brand of whites

ARISE YE WORKERS FROM YOUR SLUMBER!
ARISE YE PRISONERS OF WANT!
FOR REASON IN REVOLT NOW THUNDERS
AND AT LAST ENDS THE AGE OF CANT!

AWAY WITH ALL YOUR SUPERSTITIONS
SERVILE MASSES ARISE! ARISE!
WE'LL CHANGE HENCEFORTH THE OLD TRADTIONS,
AND SPURN THE DUST TO WIN THE PRIZE!

SO COMRADES COME RALLY,
AND THE LAST FIGHT LET US FACE!
THE INTERNATIONALE
UNITES THE HUMAN RACE!

>Thinking an ethnostate is even possible
THere are tonnes of ethnostates, you just don't acknowledge them as such because none of them are white an no non white people could EVER be so racist as to have an ethnostate right??.

And where is the Reich then? If fascism and Nazism are so great, how come Italy got embarrassed, and how come Berlin got taken? If nazis were so great how come the entire male population got slaughtered and the women all raped by slavs? There's a reason the USA survived and the shit states like Germany and ussr crumbled. Cause capitalism and libertarianism are the truth

I never said worker coops were retard. Communism has been around long before Marx joined the scene. See the diggers -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggers

By definition communist societies must be stateless. The U.S.S.R had a totalitarian state, literally the polar opposite.

It must be moneyless, once again the opposite, the ruskies had money.

It must be classless, Stalin and his cohorts were the ruling class, any historian will agree with me on that.

In conclusion. you're fucking retarded.

As a communist I recognize that, that's why all true communists must also be anarchists. Any other position is logically inconsistent. The other user up there clearly can't read 2 fucking paragraphs. I mentioned reading Marx and maintain that his theory has been proven wrong by history.

Give me an example instead of making shit up. Name 1 country in this world that expressly forbids white people by law. Go ahead.

>if x system works why did it fail in 1 instance

If liberalism works why are wh*Te subhumans failing to breed above replacement rate and are getting BTFO by reactionary arabs and hispanics?

>huge populated country abutted by 1 disjointed shithole and 1 huge expanse of land with 5 cities in it is comparable to a state in the middle of other polities facing three industrial superpowers at once

>If it's not expressly forbidden by law it's not an ethnostate.
Haha yeah you're right, I'm totally free as a white man to go to Somalia. I'd probably be killed on the street but I'm still free to go there, therefore it is not an ethnostate. Thanks for setting me straight user, I'm trying to book plane tickets now but for some reason most airlines don't seem to want to fly there.

>As a communist I recognize that, that's why all true communists must also be anarchists.
wrong, retard. In communism everybody owns everything in common, in anarchism ownership is determined by usage.

In anarchism, the mill is owned by the people who work at the mill, in communism the mill is owned by everybody regardless of where they work.

Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican. And what you just described isn't the fault of the Government, no one is forcing white people to stop making babies, that is happening by their own choice. Your argument is so fucking shit it's hilarious. I can pretty much guarantee you didn't do anything after high school

>Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican.

Do you know any history outside of the US or before 1914?

>that is happening by their own choice.

Exactly. Liberal countries allow liberal people not to breed, killing out liberalism in the long run because authoritarian people breed. If liberalism is so great why can't it last?

alright mr. anarchy in an anarchist society whats to stop me from getting some of the pissed off lads down at the pub together, forming a militia, conquering a piece of land with violent force and declaring myself king and the boys nobles? What prevents me from making you a serf?

>libertarianism
not him but what's libertarianism's plan for the hordes of shitskins looking to get in for free gibs and subversive leftists trying to achieve that.

Somalia isn't an ethnostate you brainlet. It's a poor shit country, if you went there you'd be robbed cause you're from the first world not inherently cause you're white. No country in the world right now is an ethnostate by law. That was my argument and it's true. You lost. It's ok, maybe study a bit next time

Another epic über retard. Nationalsocialsm does not mean "nationalism + socialism" -- if you believe THAT is what it means, then you're a fucking brainwashed retard. You're just as retarded as Antifa and Hillary supporters.

First off, it's not "Nazism" -- It's Nationalsocialism. HUGE difference.

And Nationalsocialism is 1 word: it's not "nationalistischer sozialismus" -- "nationalistic socialism". For fucks sake, try to understand this, it's not difficult.

Nationalsocialism simply means "being social about your nation/ethnicity/blood and soil" -- in other words; Natsoc makes nationalism; blood and soil; the people; the soul of the land; into a social movement. Think of it as "social"-ism, instead of "socialism". It soaks/drenches/colors/infuses the entire social structure and society itself IN all of that mentioned above. It's about the People and the Nation and Culture and Tradition. And removing all foreign/alien/hostile elements which doesn't belong in your culture, in your land.

THAT'S IT! It has absolutely nothing to do with "socialist economics" or the government being "socialist"

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pic is from the "Day of German Art" in Munich.

>I'm totally free as a white man to go to Somalia. I'd probably be killed on the street but I'm still free to go there, therefore it is not an ethnostate.

I mean, you'd probably get killed on the street regardless of your skin color. Yay colonialism for basically sponsoring people on shit countries killing each other.

you are so fucking stupid you can't even copy and paste your shit right.

>Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican.
read a fucking book Liberalism doesn't mean democrats its a fucking ideology that includes any party that supports western style democracy and capitalism

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>Thinks he & the lads can run an effective fiefdom
>Thinks he & the lads won't starve shortly after they realize that they don't have any viable skills & no one wants to extend the offer of mutual aid to a 16 year-old warlord.

if you're an anarchist just call yourself an anarchist. drop the communist branding.

i think some kind of organization aka government is inevitable. it's best to keep it decentralized and communism always centralizes power through "the peoples" government.

the founding fathers of the united states knew the dangers of centralization. should just reboot that plan and follow the constitution. but whatever gets done obviously whats going on now isnt sustainable

You should be sterilized for your low iq.

Socialism, noun: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

A system that advocates distribution of resources for the whole... that is natsoc you absolute autist, the only difference is that the "whole" is the German ethnic "whole". It is socialism that is meant for a specific ethnic group, that is it. By the very dictionary definition you are wrong, natsoc is socialism just for a very specific community.

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ayy im not saying me and the lads would be good kings all im saying is that a few pissed off drunk guys with guns could completely overthrow an anarchist society.

(you)

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>But both ideologies lack free trade and free speech, both of which are necessary for economic and technological proliferation.

If this is true then why was Germany the most technologically advanced country at the start of WW2? Even after the war their scientific advancements were used as the foundation of the space race.

why would a village allow a bunch of pissed off drunk guys to wreck their shit? and why would neighboring villages tolerate it? and why wouldn't we send your pictures to villages, towns, and cities across the country to avoid doing business with you. what then mr smarty pants.

This is not true, by all accounts the US was the most advanced nation by the start of WW2

Completely incorrect. People would defend their respective properties and villages, brainlet.

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That's assuming:

1. You're the only ones with guns.
2. You have a monopoly on ammo and it's production, which would be pretty difficult to secure in a society predicated on the abolition of property.

The only non-retard in this thread

>every single person in the village older than 12 knows how to handle a firearm and defend themselves
>everyone over the age of 16 owns a firearm
>every male over the age of 18 is tasked with defending the village

have fun trying to take out 2 dozen well armed, determined and trained men defending their homes and families. you'd need double their number or armoured vehicles to get the job done

Army with hierarchy > unruly anarchist mob
Did you people learn nothing from getting absolutely BTFO in the Spanish civil war by both the nationalists and your own tankie allies?

Commies can't meme for the life of them. Just give up

theoretically everyone on an anarchist society would also wield guns as a means of deterrence

alas, i fail to understand why wouldn't the guy with the larger number of guns wouldn't rule the land

no anarchist has ever explained how they would avoid from someone invariably attempting to fill in the vacuum of power left by the lack of state-sponsored violence.

i mean i guess you have to assume that you would have a way to get those guns in the first place, but not being able to secure a means to do so on such a society just sounds like turtles all the way down to me.

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>anarcho communist
This literally doesn't exist. How do you make sure there's no private ownership, everyone gets everything they need while contributing however they can, and the means of production are seized without an authoritarian power? You don't expect everyone to just contribute out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? What about psychopaths? At least one out of every hundred people would not take part in the scheme and keep everything to himself. And there would be no state or authority to stop them.

T.permabulk

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