When I first heard about this, the answer was obvious to me: he was no more Satoshi than a random spammer was a Nigerian Prince. That was how a sane, rational man would react to overly bold claims by a person with a trickster face. But now, after doing some research and reading this, I have my doubts: steemit.com/bitcoin/@belerophon/in-defense-of-craig-wright-part-1
Craig is an autist, just like Satoshi was, and he is verifiable among the very first people engaged in bitcoin. In the end, we still don't know the truth
real satoshi is Hal Finney, he was helped by Dave Kleiman with the code
Craig was promised 10 000 BTC by Dave Kleiman for helping with the project.
Dave died, BTC key is on an encrypted usd stick. Craig is salty because he actually reserved the money.
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Justin Hill
I heard some serious arguments against that by professional programmers who reviewed the source code. Hal Finney was a Unix veteran, while Satoshi was a Windows desktop programmer. The way they code is different on too many levels.
Nolan Phillips
What about Dave Kleiman, there's is evidence he was connected with Craig before the bitcoin paper was released
Brayden Sanders
It is him, but his alpha-cunt persona doesn't fit crypto's idea of what a genius nerd should look like.
Imagine he looked like Vitalik instead. Age aside, no one would have doubted Vitalik to be Satoshi. Ah, the skelly look. The sickly pale skin. Smell the high IQ.
Liam Baker
Hal and Dorian. Dorian birthed the idea, Hal implemented it. Szabo and Wright joined later.
Leo Martin
I used to think he was a hoaxer but watching his talks on YouTube I realized the guy is genuinely autistic and he obviously thinks about crypto and economics a lot. As you all know, autists can't lie.
Elijah Cox
Satoshi is a bloke named Ian, last name unknown. You will never find him.
Joshua Gutierrez
Nope.
Jaxon Robinson
The real Satoshi Nakamoto is a woman.
Andrew Howard
Hal and Szabo. Szabo is Satoshi.
Angel Taylor
He may have been involved.
Daniel Hernandez
No, it's a black woman named Shateeka.
James Kelly
testing
Leo Bennett
Sounds like a lesbian so I believe it.
Austin Murphy
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Christopher Clark
The real Satoshi has been dead for a long long time already
John Myers
>Hal implemented it Hal was a Unix veteran, Satoshi was a Windows programmer from the 90s era. Their code is fundamentally different. All professional programmers who reviewed the code point out this drastic, striking difference.
>Wright joined later However, there is evidence that Wright was closely familiar with Dave Kleiman BEFORE the actual release of the bitcoin paper, which means he must be at the very roots of it
>Dorian This guy actually seems interesting as a back-up candidate, we don't know the truth anyway
Matthew Taylor
>he was helped by Dave Kleiman with the code what about that part.
Isaac Bennett
Answered in the second post
Asher Cruz
ahh my b missed that.
Logan Parker
I can never get over the fact that Hal Finney lived two blocks from Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto, the only person living in the US with that name.
Hal Finney was the first one besides Satoshi to Bitcoin mine.
He is 100% connected. There's no way it could be a coincidence that he lived two blocks from someone with that name, and was the second person to mine Bitcoin.
Jason Flores
Is it possible they both worked for a government agency and were involved in a secret project?
Gavin White
Of course it's possible. But we'll likely never know.
Hal Finney could be the real Satoshi, and it would make sense because those coins have never been touched (he died in 2014)
Cameron Murphy
but why did he want to suddenly prove that he's satoshi and why did he choose to only prove it to one person exclusively which we have to believe now if he could easily taken a route where he undeniably had proven the whole world that it was him?
Brayden Myers
so Hal was talking to himself all that time on the mailing list pretending not to be satoshi?
Ethan Morris
As much as I agree with him about some of the tech questions, he's obviously a fraudster opportunist, and likely knew the real SN was Kleiman, who died in 2013 and whom he knew couldn't call him a liar, and forged the ridiculous "tulip trust" so he could have a claim on Kleiman's coins. He also never provided any crypto proof for being SN and even patented many blockchain technologies.
Luis Brooks
Does no one read the article. The article states that Craig Wright was the main creator of Bitcoin, like a CEO, and Dan Kleiman was his editor. There were multiple other people involved, at least half a dozen if not more.
Eli Taylor
He did not "suddenly want", he was doxxed and threatened by extortionists. When the media hard-pressed him, there was apparently some hesitation on his part about what to do, and he retreated in the end.
Elijah Nelson
That means he was running a full node. Hal was the second person to a run a full node. If he had access to the coins of Satoshi he would have sold them to pay for his hospital treatments, but he didn't.
Zachary Carter
top fucking kek, they were worth dogshit at the time
David Rodriguez
>Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto, the only person living in the US with that name. I'm pretty sure when I read the article claiming Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto was the real Satoshi they said there were 57 Satoshi Nakamoto's in the U.S.
Parker Johnson
Hal actually sold most of his bitcoins for like 100$ to pay his medical bills.
Henry Sanchez
>Hal Finney could be the real Satoshi, and it would make sense because those coins have never been touched (he died in 2014) No it doesn't make sense. If you are dying of a terrible disease you would withdraw that money to attempt to save your life.
Joseph Hill
>He also never provided any crypto proof for being SN Why would he? If Satoshi went through all that work to stay anonymous it only makes sense that the real Satoshi would balk at proving who he was. What Craig did fits the narrative of Satoshi.
Connor Ramirez
Hal died in 2014. The price of Bitcoin was worth $1000 before he died. That means he was a billionaire if he had access to those coins you fucking retard. Can you not do multiplication? Satoshi was not Hal. A billionaire doesn't let himself die without paying money for hospital treatments.
>He also never provided any crypto proof for being SN He doesn't want anyone to think he's SN, that's the entire fucking point. He made himself look like a fraud.
Alexander Myers
f&f = friends and family ATO = Australian Taxation Office
Thomas Stewart
no, my dad works for Satoshi can confirm it is not CW
Justin Long
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Cameron Fisher
Szabo is a big block corecuck shill, he doesn't even have any Bitcoin or at most has a very insignificant amount - which is why he sucks the cum out of blockstream's arse.
Levi Lopez
obviously
Nathan Ross
Also: my dad and Satoshi at tanagra work at bitcoin. AMA
Asher Morales
If he is, BTC is even more screwed than it otherwise would be and probably on a shorter timeline.
Levi Gray
its not that he doesnt look like a genius, its that he looks like a retard
Brayden Ross
If CW is satoshi, then why in the world would he post a forged signature?
Here are a few reasons why he wouldn't do that if he was satoshi:
-He was dying from a degenerative brain disease. Even with an infinite amount of money directed towards his health and research into his disease, he almost certainly still would not be with us today.
-Satoshi's address is the most watched cryptocurrency address in existence, and the coins in it are basically considered "out of circulation" by investors. Therefore, if he tried to transfer them to an exchange, the price of bitcoin would absolutely tank before they even arrived.
-With both of those factors considered, also consider that he has other interests than his own life, such as his legacy, the legacy of the tech he worked on, and the well being of his family.
Not saying he is Satoshi... the fact that BTC targeted Windows first is really strange.
Easton Robinson
also this is the real satoshi
Christian Wright
He did everything he could to prove he was SN except releasing publicly his signed message.
But there are far too many things which really make him look like a fraud, plus there's absolutely no fucking evidence which he couldn't have easily forged himself in order to make shekels from this - hell he even sold the rights on the SN story.
As much as I support the bch fork CW is a blemish on it.
Jacob Sanchez
of course he is satoshi. He has proven it to Gavin, he's proven it to Calvin Ayre and now Craig is running nChain with practically unlimited funding.
Ayden Edwards
Are you dumb? He "proven" it on his own laptop after giving a stupid excuse, and Gavin himself later changed his mind about CW.
Ian Phillips
>the fact that BTC targeted Windows first is really strange This is actually what points towards Dorian being the true Satoshi imo. People like to pretend Bitcoin's code was some sort of next-level genius programming. In reality, the first few releases of bitcoin were buggy and flawed programming of a brilliant idea. It wasn't until others like Szabo and Finney started lending their talents that it shaped into a working product.
Xavier Lee
> there are 7 billion people in the world > be one of them > be satoshi nakamoto > want to stay anonymous > try to convince people I'm satoshi nakamoto > use every measure except for actual proof > reverse_psychology.bin
Brandon Anderson
Core cucks hate him cause he's a cashie, to bad for core coin as they have so many faults they won't survive this year
Isaiah Wood
Fun fact: first ever release included a casino software and a marketplace.
Samuel White
He probably fully understands Rick and Morty... Damn him.
Elijah Ortiz
>try to convince people I'm satoshi nakamoto Have you ever researched what happened to Craig you fucking idiot. He had an extortionist dox him and threaten to release his information to the press and tax authorities if he didn't pay a ransom. Craig didn't pay, the extortionist released his info to tax authorities and the press. Craig didn't try to out himself as Satoshi, others did. DYOR.
Dylan Cooper
the far left = BCH if it ever took over
the middle = BTC with LN
the right = neither, because SHA-256 mining is centralizing
>Dorian
I hope you're meming... only evidence is that they have the same last name.
Hudson Mitchell
The real Satoshi would be able to prove it irrefutably in a moment. I'm not going to entertain attention whores who won't do that. They can't simultaneously claim they're afraid of the government while they try to take credit for what Satoshi did.
Gabriel Brooks
that is true for most open source projects, as logn as the code is public its ok
Jackson Wood
>Fun fact: first ever release included a casino software and a marketplace. And Craig is well connected in the gambling world. Coincidence?
Jaxon Baker
>the far left = BCH if it ever took over This makes no fucking sense, have you ever heard Craig or Roger Ver or Jihan Wu talk? They are extreme capitalists. The far left is the soyboys in Bitcoin, of course its not the far left for the normal world, but the far right including the original Bitcoin AnCaps are all in BCH.
Jack Price
The Tulip Trust that controls Craig's coins gets to keep the coins if he outs himself. Read the articles posted. I know you won't because you're a Segwit soyboy.
Eli Anderson
AI created bitcoin.
The allure of money in exchange for the Ai to grow its hardware power.
Julian Collins
>now Craig is running nChain with practically unlimited funding.
This is the point most people miss. nChain has fucking unlimited funding from 'private investors', aka Craig is funding the entire business with corecoins
Owen Reed
I think he's talking about the image.
Hunter Wilson
I got a copy of Ohh LaLa with some book full of some nerdy fucking numbers when I was in the future. I created your butthead coins also I attempted raping some spazzy thot in the back of my ride when I was at school AMA
Christopher Evans
This is self-evident to anyone with half a brain. Veeky Forums is clearly full of retards with no understanding of cypherpunk history.
Craig Wright is a conman, nothing more.
Brody Miller
>This is the point most people miss. nChain has fucking unlimited funding from 'private investors', aka Craig is funding the entire business with corecoins The other point they miss is that because the trust was founded back when Bitcoin was first founded the coins under its control operate under the laws at the time. Meaning he has basically complete freedom with them. So he doesn't have to do reporting, pay taxes, etc. The trust was made as a way of making him a literal king, he is untouchable.
Daniel Lewis
> He had an extortionist dox him and threaten to release his information to the press and tax authorities if he didn't pay a ransom
He supposedly was doxxed, no proof that actually happened.
Then he publicly claimed he was SN.
Then he provided a fake signed message.
Then when people verified it was fake (which is trivial if you have SN's public key...) he said he was going to provide more proof on his blog.
Then the next day after saying that he was going to provide proof on his blog, he deleted all his blog posts.
> hes totally satoshi!!!!
John King
Nakamoto and Finney created bitcoin
duh
Jayden Wright
>This is self-evident to anyone with half a brain. Veeky Forums is clearly full of retards with no understanding of cypherpunk history.
Isaiah Moore
Any person that has done some serious research would come to what is the most likely scenario, and that is Craig Wright is truly could be Satoshi. nothing is for sure, but it he is by and far the most likely of the people that have been suspected. You can find Craigs old emails on the cypherpunk mailing list on github from 1996. he is a very, very smart guy, he knew people wouldnt follow his persona. But despite what fuking idiots on twitter think, he is a genius
James Robinson
Szabo created Bitcoin and is the undisputed prodigal son of the cypherpunk movement. Also he's not a big blocker you fucking retard.
Dylan Ross
save this picture to finish this argument quickly in the future.
Henry James
>You can find Craigs old emails on the cypherpunk mailing list on github from 1996
No such thing exists.
Adam Sanders
>Then he provided a fake signed message. complementarycurrency.org/jean-paul-sartre-signing-and-significance/ This is what Craig posted with the signed message. He was clearly saying he would never prove he was Satoshi. Read it and then try and tell me again that this is an attempt to prove he was Satoshi. His post ends with "Satoshi is dead. But this is only the beginning." The rest is the news site's article. He literally says in the post he doesn't want to be known as Satoshi and yet you brainlets say it was him trying to prove he was Satoshi. Can you not read?
Thomas Richardson
god you shit cashies are soooo fucking desperate
Logan Hill
> b-b-but szabo cant be satoshi because he doesn't like my shitcoin!!
Owen Torres
>Then when people verified it was fake (which is trivial if you have SN's public key...) he said he was going to provide more proof on his blog. No he did not. He provided proof to Gavin Andresen and Jon Matonis then when people said he was a fraud he said he would come out in the next few days with proof. Then he posted the Jean Paul Sartre text, which I gave in the link before, in which he stated he would never prove he was Satoshi. He never again did anything to prove he was Satoshi. Quit changing the timeline to fit your narrative. Also read the article's OP posted which have members of the Tulip Trust telling Craig through interviews that if he moved the coins he would be stripped of his rights to access them. There is a lot more going on than you think and you need to read these articles to understand. Unfortunately some of the articles are over 50 pages long and you idiots can't read so you'll never understand.
Pretty sure serious cypher punks cover their tracks pretty eloquently. Changing patterns, messaging themselves to throw people off , but sending the maiden tx is something a programmer would always be sending themselves to test. It could always look like they sent it to somebody else anyway. Don't know programmers who send the first text to anybody else. Too impatient.... Also makes sense that cypher punks would pay respect by letting Hal die in peace. Whatever the arguments are I think this is my satoshi and always will be until he comes back...which won't happen
Lincoln Sullivan
What a surprise! The Segwit Soyboys are making shit up to defend their broken coin with a broken protocol. Who would have guessed?
Jayden Perez
wrightc[at]opennet.net.au was one of many on the list from craig wright. you can search his old replies
OP linked it. That's what I mean, no one reads what is linked by OP and then they post on it like the brainlets they are. This other articlee is 50 pages or more because its actually a book.
its long as fuck but theres a paywall like half way through. You can sign up for free day trial i think.
Jeremiah Morales
Search Hal Finney - Extropy He cryogenic froze himself. He was a transhumanist. Quotes from the Extropy forum include "can't wait to talk to you when you wake up Hal"
Thomas Wilson
Hi Craig
Joshua Brooks
Nick Szabo the main lead with the other guys mentioned in the circle with him. Together they made it happen. Lots of financial and technological input. Satoshi is a made up anonymous name to hide the identity. Bitcoin is peer to peer electronic currency that hides the identity of the person. Will Craig and co. work together for the people? Or are they working for the government and preparing for a fiat to crypto change.
David Taylor
complementarycurrency.org/jean-paul-sartre-signing-and-significance/ He purposefully signed a transaction that wouldn't prove he was Satoshi and posted it with this text saying he wouldn't prove he was Satoshi. Everyone knows the signed message meant nothing. That was the point. Again read the text he posted with that signed message and it becomes clear he was saying to the world "I will never prove I am Satoshi." You keep on avoiding what I'm saying because you either know you are wrong, or never read the text posted with his signed message.
David Foster
Sorry I meant to say a small blocker and a ball sucker. He is absolutely not Satoshi, suggesting he is is fucking moronic.
He's balls deep in Blockstream's arse, he shills for them because he gets paid by them - thats why he doesn't have any money, he doesn't own any Bitcoin.
Any stupid fuck who wants to take transactions off the blockchain is obviously not fucking satoshi.
Isaac Garcia
Segwit is toast with losing market share and all holders will lose everything, once they pull a 51% attack and short the market its over boys.
Joshua Reyes
archive.is/kjuLi I'm pretty sure this link is the whole article with no paywall.
Kevin Rodriguez
when lando
Ayden Smith
Actually, Satoshi directly referred to Szabo's works in his posts
Ryder Richardson
The text I read opened with him claiming that he's satoshi, with an inexplicable signature thrown in. Enough to throw fuel on the on going trash fire that was CW's SN claim, but ambiguous enough to where he could go back later and say "No, I wasn't _deliberately_ misleading people!!!!!"
Then brainlets like yourself can go back and wash the post of any context and pretend like he was just providing a basic explanation of how to sign and verify messages, that he just so happens to open by claiming hes satoshi teehee