In situations like this your can make more money when BTC crashing than you can chasing moon missions if you know what you're doing, just by trading BTC, no need to touch altcoins. Why are you missing out on these gains? BitMEX (the "mex" stands for Mercatile Exchange) is the only crypto exchange in the world that offers 100X leverage (but it's not because you can that you must, go small and work your way up). Let me explain what this means. So lets say you were to have shorted (placed a sell order) for BTC at $10 000. Let's also say you only have .1 BTC to trade with, or $1 000 worth. With .1 BTC at x10 leverage you can sell 1 BTC. Then for every dollar BTC goes down, your position is worth $1 more. Say BTC goes to $8 000, if you close your position you then get the difference which is $2 000 in profit paid to you in BTC, that's a 200% profit I would suggest you learn TA before you start trading. You can train using their testnet (free). You want a moon mission? BitMEX is your moon mission. Euros and others can sign up but US users are banned (just sign up with a proxy and then you can login from a US IP with no questions asked). If you're going to sign up use my reference code, using a reference code gives you a %10 discount in fees. May not sound like much but it's saved me hundred of dollars in the past weeks: bitmex.com/register/toYHiE
- Interface is amazing with professional grade advanced order types - Liquidity it offers is completely unmatched, it's the biggest exchange volume wise: coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/no-fees/ - BTC deposits take less than 10 minutes: just 1 confirmation from the network needed - Never down, no shady flash crashes caused by website being down like Poloniex does - IT HAS INTEGRATION INTO NINJATRADER bitmex.com/app/ninjaTraderIntegration
>dont invest on exchanges, use this gambling website where you can lose everything in a flash
Oliver Garcia
it's alright, someone has to pay fees for others.
Carter Robinson
i wonder how many people killed themselves after getting liquidated
Jose Watson
Strong support at 11k generational low
Jeremiah Moore
>buy $100 at x100 leverage >sell $100 at x100 leverage >both at same time
One gets liquidated, other gives you mad gains far greater than the initial $200 you've invested. What's the problem with this strategy?
Adam Lewis
pls try this
Leo Kelly
x100 is for poor people trading a dollar at a time, or fucking idiots.
Pick one.
NEETs, stay away from margin trading. You'll lose your money faster than in a casino. I see people who know what they're doing saying they've gambled away 2, 3, or more bitcoins in the last week on this shit.
Jose Campbell
Now here are my advices if you want to stay safe, or/and if you don't want to use Tether
0. x100 leverage is pure gamble I can not stress this enough, use lower leverage
1. Read the docs and make sure you understand exactly how the contracts work (both futures and swap), profit/loss calculation and how liquidation works. Make sure you understand the difference between mark price and index price.
2. x1 shorts are way to cash out without using the Tether time bomb or Fiat: Say you have 1 BTC which is worth 10 000$ at a given time in bear market and you think it's doing to dip further you short sell 10 000$ worth of contracts which will cost 1 BTC A few months latter BTC @ 5 000$ and is bullish again, you decide to go long again so you buy back/close your short position you still have 10 000$ worth of contracts so you have now 2 BTC. You can even get paid funding rates for holding your position + makers fee for going short bitmex.com/app/perpetualContractsGuide#funding If you're "cashing out" long term and you don't want to pay funding fees use futures contracts (XBTH18, XBTM18) not the swap contract (XBTUSD)
3. The interface may seem a bit complex to some, don't let that discourage you, it has very advanced order types and you can practice with testnet BTC (get some from a faucet) on BitMEX's testnet. Make some trades on the testnet to confirm your understanding of the contracts and the site in general.
4. I prefer trading on Cross. It's very important to not trade too many contracts, I trade 1 contract at a time. I strongly recommend not to trade so many contracts that your are more than 2x leveraged. Ideally less than 1x, at least in the beginning.
5. Don't forget to set a stop loss, plan your trades and trade your plans.
Trading with above x5 leverage is a lot harder than most people think. By far most traders on there lose money because they use too much leverage, those that trade with x100 leverage lose all their money, so don't use that.
Tyler Howard
Shut the fuck up you degenerate gambling retard. This is about EU rumors not meme magic and tard lines you fucking imbecile.
Leo Hall
Thanks, man. I really do need to start doing this. I'm not sure why I've been putting it off. This is the BTC chart I've been using, and it's been pretty spot. I made this one on 1-19.
The 1-30 line was the predicted start of the dip, and the 2-10 line was the predicted start of the small bounce back. You can see it struggling to get above the downtrend line now. I'd short it under 10797 and close at 7751. I'd repeat that if it were still unable to break that DT line after hitting 7751 with a short at whatever value it struggles with at the DT and a close at 5585.
Thanks for reminding me about this. (I'm not totally sure it was you who posted about this a week or so ago, but your writing style is similar enough to make me wonder.) If so, I really do plan on signing up for this, and I'll use the link you provided.
Lucas Perez
Why would they kill themselves? Oh, right, you're a clueless dumbass. Listen up, dummy: people don't store their entire stack on that site. They deposit what they're going to gamble with. Bitmex can only take from your balance, to pay off the account. If you have enough to cover being liquidated, they're fine. If not, their balance goes to 0. That's all. They can either reload, or walk away. Most people are betting in dollars, not hundreds of thousands. Idiots margin trade with that much, or "whales". If you put more than $100 on the table in the kind of market it is right now, you're either a degenerate gambler, or a fucking moron.
Hunter Reed
Please see:
Kevin Torres
You can't do both at the same time on one account. Some people do something like what you're talking about, but have two accounts.
It's possible, but it's more likely it won't work. Plus, I don't like that site, they have stability issues, with trade orders not going through when it gets busy. They say that infrastructure improvements are coming, so I personally have 0 interest in trading there until they fix it, and show they can be reliable.
Adam Peterson
It takes a while to quit exclusively holding and start trading, but if you're really into this stuff, then you'll get there eventually.
Thomas King
If you have the info/hedge you can make huge profits with no need of retarded high leverage, stay poor
Chase Bell
so many newfags will try this and kill themselfs. thanks user for getting stupid money out
Logan Jenkins
lol srs?
I don't even draw meme lines and I've doubled since I started bitmexing.
Wyatt Flores
Neck yourself degenerate gambler
Luke Barnes
haha I feel like that kind of is worth pointing out. Like...for real, do not mess with this kind of stuff out of the gate.
Ayden Adams
DARKTRIP MAKING $$ SHORTING 30X HAHA
Gavin Garcia
I didnt say anything about magic and tard lines, you fucking asslick.
Levi Barnes
he said holding the most volatile asset class of the decade
Jaxson Parker
zoom out retards
Jacob Morgan
>"zoom out" >1W bwahahaha
Brayden Garcia
here's my prediction with today's close
Josiah Cook
True, But crypto is like drugs
Sure, coke(BTC) is king but altcoins are good investments too. People still like weed, X, Acid, etc
Henry Long
I didn't say it was impossible, but the majority of the NEETs and austists here will lose their money, guaranteed. Margin trading is the most riskiest form of gambling you can do, but the autists here see pretty colors and "big candles hurrrrrr" and flock to that site like retarded moths. You see them in the chat all day, sperging out Veeky Forums memes and just making the place intolerable.
Matthew Edwards
referrals are against global rules. besides, your copypasta that every pajeet uses and replaces their referral is misleading. 100x margin increases 100x the commission so the mexicans eat your starting capital way quicker than you can stop them climbing a wall
Chase Bennett
That's legit
Jackson Ross
desu i wanted 4k, but after a lot of simulations the best i get is a double bottom (6-8k)
Josiah Cox
Solution for brainlets/rookies is x1 shorts/longs as explained here
Jose Stewart
>It's possible, but it's more likely it won't work Why? You don't have to do this on bitmex with crypto. You can do it with x400 leverage on regular forex at other exchanges.
Juan Reyes
On forex won't you owe money in case of flash crash? bitmex just has your email.
Aiden Fisher
that's a real shitty analogy
Samuel Murphy
I think it's still possible, but I'm kind of with you on that. The trend chart I posted matches up pretty nicely with you sim chart, so I'm kind of thinking it may wick on the day chart around 5855 again.
Gabriel Cruz
Can't ask to much off junkies
Robert Bailey
You don't owe shit. You get liquidated just like everywhere else and that's that.
Jordan Reed
actually my chart is pretty inaccurate with the daily closes, but it capture correctly the weekly trends
Colton Ross
referrals are against global rules.
instead of taking risks himself, OP receives a commission whenever someone gains or loses, which is pretty deceptive with regards to his intentions
it's recommended that everyone report this thread
Landon Perry
I was looking mainly at your future projection, and I feel like you could take that, scale it, and put it right where the data ends on my chart. It looks like it would match the trends pretty closely.
Nicholas Jackson
can confirm. first time i tried dicking around with margin trading, went long eth, got liquidated. feels bad man
Adrian Hughes
i can't see it dipping past 8k, that 6k bounce was insane.
Jordan Sanders
You happen to have one on ETH? It hit a nice buy-in spot today, and I'm guessing that it'll hit its next gain in sync with this next BTC drop.
Chase Moore
Actually I think I know why. It's very likely that both your positions would get liquidated due to swings before you broke even. The strategy is flawed because it assumes direction will not change.
Angel Foster
i agree desu, i'll keep the chart updated with daily closes. what's sure is that i'll keep my short open for the whole week
eth/btc or eth/usd? i can retrain the network for any shitcoin
Carson Bailey
global rule 11
Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.
Chase Scott
Let's go ETH/BTC if you don't mind. My script picked it as a buy at 14:00:00 CST, and it's always a little eyebrow raising when it picks one of the big timers.
Daniel Murphy
grabbed the daily close, let me quickly retrain the network and i'll post results