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>barefoot
There are some alright cheap wines, and that definitely isn't one of them

What would you recommend? Looking to get into wine but don't have much experience other than Welch's wine I made when incredibly poor and underage.

I like the Merlot. For £5, its decent and consistent. It has a fun, full flavour which i really like to drink when i finish a shift and want to just listen to music and watch porno

>people actually buy Cabernet Sauvignon
fuck it's like drinking liquid Roquefort cheese, why would anyone drink that shit?

No shit it's terrible. I only get it from Costco for use as a cooking wine. That's ALL it's good for.

>"Grape Jews"
kek

It's an almost bottom shelf Californian red blend, what the fuck were you expecting?

>Eurodumbs

Do you prefer sweeter wine or drier wine?

If you really like sweet booze, then you could always go for a dessert wine like cream sherry.

Drier wine that competes with European basics on a budget, I'm a fan of the Cabs and Merlots that Chateau Ste. Michelle puts out along with Columbia Crest H3.

La Crema puts out a good $20 Pinot Noir, but Pinot Noir in general is expensive. Meiomi if you like it sweeter but less true-to-style.

>La Crema
>Meiomi

I can't give geographically specific recommendations, so of course it's going to be some bait brands when I throw out nationally distributed wines.

Whats the meme-est wine for us memeboys?

Box wine

Pretty sure ABC is available nationwide, may not be to everyone's taste but at least it's real pinot and not "mega purple labeled for people who read somewhere that it's cool to like pinot noir"

you are in the wrong part of California, if you want good wine go to Baja

There is NOTHING wrong wine out of a box.

Was never a fan of sweet drinks so dry, I guess.

Also looking to start cooking with wine so something I don't want to worry too much about throwing in a pan would be preferable. I live in NY so I dunno what that would tell you. Meme foods and trends everywhere.

Already been chewed?

Never heard of their pinot, only their chardonnay is in stock at my local wine shop.

Probably the only American pinot noir available nationwide in the $20 range

Although in NY State, Dr. Konstantin Frank makes a good one in the same price range, you won't find it far beyond our borders though

box wine is superior to bottled

Sorry meant to say that ABC is "the only *drinkable* American pinot noir available nationwide in the price range"
The chardonnay is good too

It's shit

Pleb

Thanks for the rec, I'll have to drive 20 miles to get their pinot noir...

Is Pinot Noir the best dry red or just the standard? I really don't understand much about wines...

It's more fruity, acidic, and less cottony so it works better with a wider range of foods.

There is no such thing as "the best dry red" and you should never listen to anyone who even suggests that there is such a thing

It's a delicious medium bodied red wine that happens to be associated with some of the most prestigious wines in the world. Unfortunately this means that a lot of people want to drink "pinot noir" and so there is a ton of crap out there with "pinot noir" printed on the bottle, see It's best to treat all pinot noir with skepticism if you don't know too much about wine, and avoid "bargains" because there won't be any.

There are many delicious red wines in all kinds of styles, you should drink as many as possible and be prepared to not like some, and to love others. Your tastes will also change over time as your palate develops.

Okay, by cotton you mean the tannin content?

What would be the second recommendation? I'm not sure getting one specific brand of wine for the sake of Pinot Noir is for me.

I understand that, I guess I'm just used to passable spirits being avaliable at most price ranges and am wary of the wine culture as much as the actual wine. I don't have friends to impress so I can live with anons on Veeky Forums calling me a poorfag.

>it's another wine lovers think different brands and ages taste different thread

>guess I'm just used to passable spirits being avaliable at most price ranges
Here's the thing about cheap wine. It's completely determined by marketing and by that I mean what makes the wine stand out and appeal to people who drink cheap wine.

People who drink cheap wine aren't necessarily interested in "understanding" wine. For example: they don't give a shit that Meiomi doesn't taste like pinot noir. They may not even want to know what pinot noir tastes like. They want something that is maybe pleasing to an inexperienced palate, with a bottle that looks suitably respectable (because they may not drink much wine, but when they do, it's because it's a special occasion that "deserves something classy" i.e., wine)

That being said, when you hear wine fans bashing a certain cheap wine, it's usually because it doesn't have the characteristics that the words on the label would traditionally imply. See for example: Meiomi pinot noir, California chablis, etc. They may taste perfectly fine (many will argue with me on this but I'll stand by my claim that winemaking technology can work miracles with shit quality raw materials), but they are not what wine fans expect when they buy chablis, or pinot noir, and this is on a certain level insulting to the consumer, and also sets a bad trend where you no longer know what you're getting. Who cares if it's only 51% of that grape? A wine fan might care a lot, but as long as the other 49% is still grapes, a lot of other people probably don't give a shit.

But at the end of the day the butthurt on this stuff is more about consumer's rights and politics than about whether it's objectively good or bad. If you aren't interested in learning wine trivia, and just want some grape juice that gets you drunk, it doesn't matter.

I like it, but then again I'm a cheapass wine-o.

Why is Merlot the best wine to get girls soaking wet and the rest are just flavoured versions of white wines?

Because you're 16

2 buck chuck

Im 27 yeras old, soon to be 28, i will have you know.

Sorry to hear that

s'awright

Dr. Konstantin Frank is pretty good. I have had their Gewurtztraminer and Reisling and both were good. I need to find/try thier Pinot Noir. I love lighter reds like Pinot Noir.

The riesling is honestly not that great, NYS riesling in general is somewhat overrated. I mean it's better than most of the shit the new world cranks out but it doesn't hold a candle to mosel