9/11

Was it an inside job, Veeky Forums?

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> fuel has a max burning temp
I bet I can get it to burn hotter.

The whole thing was a hoax, the towers are still standing. If you don't think it's possible then here's your reminder that David Copperfield made the statue of liberty disappear, the USG obviously has better resources and better tricks than David Copperfield.

There less energy losses the larger temperature we can get. Fuel burn produce energy not temperature. If it is contain in enough small volume we can reach really great temperature.

Yes, but a more compelling argument can be made outside of all the physics/towers/controlled demolition stuff, which I find difficult to discuss because of how the official story's depiction of the collapses makes intuitive sense to people.

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The Saudis were funding the hijackers, and the three letter agencies knew about it and purposefully did nothing about it. This was in the classified 28 pages of the 9/11 report. So yes, it was an inside job, and yes, jet fuel can melt steel beams.

>Was it an inside job, Veeky Forums?
Probably.
Let's assume it was.
Now I've got to ask: why would the government risk exposing their role in the attack by faking any part of it?

Unverified claim

So like a modern Atlantis, except being vanished to fathoms deep into the sea, it's swept up to the sky? Well, that explains "a fucking"

No.

The government/jews/reptilians/whoever didn't need to be involved to take advantage of it.

Keep antagonizing the Middle East enough and they'll attack you eventually. No need to do a false flag attack when your target is perfectly willing to actually launch the attack.

The attack was carried out at least in part by Middle-Easterners who really did hate America and probably thought they were just carrying out a terrorist attack without any involvement from within the U.S.

Those FBI-backed hijackers who were incapable of piloting the hijacked planes probably had a very limited awareness of the overall scheme.

>Fact #1: Pools of molten steel were found at the WTC site.
How do you know your pictures show molten steel?

You should learn a bit more about metallurgy and fire.

Not saying 9/11 absolutely wasn't an inside job but that argument is fucking retarded.

Maybe the molten steel theory is bullshit dreamt up by the Saudi's to hide their involvement.

Why do all conspiracy theories blame the US government? Why can't it have been someone elses evil scheme.

Every single 9/11 theory has been thoroughly debunked. What happened is now very well understood and easily available public knowledge. All thats left is literal paranoid conspiracy theorists refusing to accept reality because they dont like it

I'm so tired that this made sense in my head for like thirty seconds

>Every single JFK assassination theory has been thoroughly debunked. What happened is now very well understood and easily available public knowledge, Oswald acted alone. All thats left is literal paranoid conspiracy theorists refusing to accept reality because they dont like it

>Every single Reichstag Fire theory has been thoroughly debunked. What happened is now very well understood and easily available public knowledge, Van der Lubbe acted alone. All thats left is literal paranoid conspiracy theorists refusing to accept reality because they dont like it

Debunkers are the biggest cucks imaginable.

#REKT, it's funny how people fall for official story rationalization memes.

>all conspiracy theories are equally valid

>all conspiracy dismissals are the same
ftfy, look the govt provides a plausible explanation, to believe it is the explanation is gullible.

Americans are at fault in that our anti-terrorism network wasn't good enough at the time (though it's far, far too good now), and that we weren't ready to be attacked. The british fucking told us the planes were coming and we disregarded it.

The act was done by Islamic extremists who were funded by very high-ranking portions of Saudi Arabia, the same people who we have extremely lucrative oil deals with.

2000-2020 belongs to the Saudis, plain and simple. They successfully baited the biggest military in the country, using their own people, and still managed to send it off towards and against every single one of their enemies barring the Jews. Israel, by the way, for all its crimes and evil is probably genuinely on our side in this incident. NYC is Jewish, they wouldn't want the towers down.

Not to mention they propped up a campaign to silence anyone who dare criticize them by calling them Islamophobic. And the dumblrinas bit onto it hook, line and sinker. So we only go on about Israel which is benign in comparison to Saudi Arabia.

It was, elements in the government, also the media, the monetary system, the military and of course the spook apparatus.

The government is just the people they say, but nepotism, occult influence, favors, semi secret and secret societies with extreme blood oaths...it was a hell of a job! Whoever planted the micronukes in the basements, remotely controlled the planes, detonated other demolition charges to help it look like a collapse...right to the people who covered it all up, to this day.

That is power! More or less a crypto theocratic corporate military coup in the US that day. The untouchables.

Exactly. Speaking truth, brother.

I saw a YouTube video where a guy put some bricks on a rectangle made of chicken wire. He poured lighter fluid on it, lit it on fire, and claimed that because the chicken wire didn't melt, 9/11 was an inside job.

Makes sense.

Hitting the towers with the planes wouldn't be enough to trow them down?

>every single theory
>debunked

There are many points that have never been adequately addressed, debunkers simply avoid arguments they know they can't win.

Just a few examples:

-It has never been explained how Hani Hanjour, the hijacker who allegedly piloted the plane that hit the Pentagon, executed a complex maneuver which experienced pilots have described as impossible. Hanjour failed flight school and was incapable of flying a single-engine Cessna.

-Said complex maneuver directed the plane into a specific section of the Pentagon that was undergoing renovation and was mostly unoccupied; 125 people in the building were killed, but if the plane hit anywhere else, the casualties would have been many times that.

-There is no released video footage that clearly shows a plane hitting the Pentagon. Something like 80 security cameras, both around the Pentagon and in nearby hotels etc, should have captured the event on tape. These tapes were all confiscated and to date none have been released.

-It has not been explained how structural failure of a few isolated beams caused WTC 7 to collapse in a manner that looks identical to a controlled demolition, where all beams are severed at the same time. NIST's computer simulation of the collapse looks absolutely nothing like the observed collapse, it depicts the outer structure folding/crumpling as if it's made of rubber (pic related).

>Hitting the towers with the planes wouldn't be enough to trow them down?
If impact and fire leading to collapse really wouldn't work, then why didn't they just have terrorists plant bombs in the basement?
Some terrorists actually tried that once.
In general though, why would they attempt any implausible attack if it could expose their involvement?

>Americans are at fault in that our anti-terrorism network wasn't good enough at the time
The CIA warned the Bush administration weeks in advance.
They ignored the warning.
At the same time, GWB's only terrorism advisor quit because he couldn't even get a meeting with the pres for over 8 months.

It's standard operating procedure that when a terrorist activity aligns with the agendas of CIA or FBI they take an approach of just watching and letting it unfold. Monitor the situation but do not intervene. They admitted having knowledge that this attack was going to happen but didn't act on it. This is stated on record. They claimed they didn't act because even tho they had the intel it "fell through the cracks" or they didn't notice it till after the attack.

IMO their intel probably said something along the lines of 3 planes would be hijacked and crashed into the twin towers and building 7. I suspect they didn't realize the 3rd plane was targeted at the pentagon.

Or maybe the Jews did it to attack their enemies.

:v)

>:v)
What happened to your nose????

:^)

Planes were remotely controlled, probably no pilots, passengers were either real and assassinated or synthetically manifested.

The Pentagon plane was apparently a retrofitted A4 Skyhawk, missile/warhead in nose cone and painted like an airliner and again remotely controlled. Why they can't release pics even though the joint is smothered in cameras. FBI confiscated right away.

Forget WTC7 - it's a read herring and obvious controlled demolition, a 9 year old can tell you that - they have no cognitive dissonance yet. Look at WTC 1 and 2 again, realize they mostly disintegrated into microdust. Only one thing can do that, nukes! Micronukes in the basement granite blasted straight up as the tops were collapsed into - well - ground zero! Tritium was detected, only one reason that would happen.

>It has never been explained how Hani Hanjour, the hijacker who allegedly piloted the plane that hit the Pentagon, executed a complex maneuver which experienced pilots have described as impossible.
What complex maneuver?

>Hanjour failed flight school and was incapable of flying a single-engine Cessna.
Lie. He never failed flight school. He earned a commercial pilot certificate in 1999 in Arizona. His application to civil aviation school in Saudi Arabia was rejected the same year. He did practice flights throughout 2001 in New Jersey and Maryland, and knew how to fly as well as navigate modern planes.

>Said complex maneuver directed the plane into a specific section of the Pentagon that was undergoing renovation and was mostly unoccupied; 125 people in the building were killed, but if the plane hit anywhere else, the casualties would have been many times that.
Why does this require explanation?

>There is no released video footage that clearly shows a plane hitting the Pentagon. Something like 80 security cameras, both around the Pentagon and in nearby hotels etc, should have captured the event on tape. These tapes were all confiscated and to date none have been released.
Lie. Most of the tapes this figure comes from have nothing to do with the event. Only one shows the plane hitting the pentagon, and that was released to the public already.
911myths.com/index.php?title=FBI_hides_84_Pentagon_videos

>I suspect they didn't realize the 3rd plane was targeted at the pentagon.
where no one was injuried bc that part of the building was under construction and vacant at the time of the attacks

>It has not been explained how structural failure of a few isolated beams caused WTC 7 to collapse in a manner that looks identical to a controlled demolition, where all beams are severed at the same time. NIST's computer simulation of the collapse looks absolutely nothing like the observed collapse, it depicts the outer structure folding/crumpling as if it's made of rubber (pic related).
LOL, you presume it was exactly like controlled demolition and then demand an explanation of how it could be exactly like a controlled demolition. You're begging the question. It was not like a controlled demolition and the explanation matches what the evidence shows happened.

If you are going to start a list of points by claiming they are unexplained or undebunked, don't make them stupid memes that have been debunked a thousand times already. At least use google to make sure your crackpot claims are original.

Some people were done killed / assassinated. Rumsfeld was in the building on the other side or something. They just happened to be reinforcing that part in case of suicide airplane attack or something, and more amazing coincidences of the elevens of nine!

Micronukes in the basement... Umm... I love a good conspiracy theory but this is dumb. 1 and 2 collapsed from the top down. How can a nuke in the basement cause the top to disinigrate first?

If anything, 7's pulverization progressing at the bottom makes more sense considering micronukes but even that idea is stupid.

Do you know what type of cement they used when constructing the WTC?

:^)

believing plausible explanations instead of implausible explanations is the definition of rationality

>top to disinigrate first?

That was the genius of it. Only the military engineers know how it was done but the tops of 1 and 2 did not disintegrate, they fell into empty space. Everything below the tops was turned into microscopic dust.

Like other people suspect, 1 to 10 kt H bombs planted in the granite base shaped the blast straight up, milliseconds later conventional charges sever the top sections at the points of impact so the intact tops fall into the rising nuke blast. Why so much of the tops were ejected outward but still appear to fall straight down.

In this pic we are seeing the top section disappear into nuke blast in 1, identical to the demolition of building 2. Too much material being ejected upwards and sideways for a free fall demolition.

Also, the molten craters were found under 1,2 and 6. 7 was obviously a conventional demolition, the red herring to draw attention away from the more curious removal of the big towers.

There was not enough material in the rubble of 1 and 2 to imply anything but micronuke disintegration of the bulk of material.

We're breaking the conditioning

Charcoal burns around 400 degrees but it's been melting steel for millennia...

I hope those damn terrorists don't get access to charcoal technology.

It's obviously much more dangerous than thermite and jet fuel.

Please save us Jesus. God bless America.

Maybe the attack on the twin towers wasn't an attack on America.... rather it was an attack on the Jews?

What, no conspiracy theorist retorts to these solid rebuttals?

>jetfuel burns at a maximum of 1800°F under standard temperature and pressure.
>its hotter than standard temperature that day
>when the buildings fell, pressure massively increased
>near molten steel absorbs heat much faster than cold steel
>the steel couldve reached temperature far higher than the melting point
>denial is futile

>steel for millennia
no such thing

>solid rebuttals

nah senpai it was a pretty complex maneuver
330º turn, ending up completely level with the ground at tree top level

even "911myths" references this site, which suggests that the plane would have to be remotely controlled
jpdesm.pagesperso-orange.fr/pentagon/pages-en/trj-appr.html

Yes, actually. Crucible steel technology is right at around 1000 years old.

You keep asking and keep getting the same answer, just stop already.

If it can be picked with a crane like that it's not molten.
Red hot, yes
Molten, no.

>shows molten aluminum
>thinks it's steel

You're being misleading. 911myths references quack sites in order to debunk them. The maneuver is not complex in the sense that it is sophisticated, it's complex in a chaotic way.