So god damn sick of getting charge backs from transactions completed months ago, all you get in return for being a nice honest guy that gives good deals is a fat charge back from a one time trade you did 2 months ago, why on earth does paypal allow up to 180 days to file a dispute?
Sigh.
Brandon Howard
Use eBay Still risky but at least the buyer has only one chance to cry
Nicholas Martinez
If you use PayPal in 2014+ you deserve to lose your money
Carter Martin
I sell software, so I just have a script autoban chargerbackers and if I log into paypal while the case is open I just send in screenshot proof of their ip and shit.
Ethan Rodriguez
I need 2k by monday I will post an ad in grailed or something and get that cash but not send any product, paypal refunds him and i go negative balance How long before they send debt collectors after me?
Oliver Hernandez
So they get the item and a refund with no consequence at all?
How
Kevin Peterson
What kind of shit customers do you have?
I run a online store and I've done a little over 2k transactions from Paypal, I've had 2 disputes, one of which I won. I am doing physical products but I don't see why you'd have such an issue. Have proof of the customer receiving the software access, them using it if possible, the software being exactly as described, etc.
Austin Carter
he's probably selling bots or game hacks. some community with a lot scammers.
Luke Robinson
I sell game items... so its kinda different to traditional uses I guess, idk what to do about it
Logan Murphy
I can't believe people pay money for virtual items, how do i get in on this business?
What are you selling, give me a vague idea. Like runescape armor or something like that?
Andrew Walker
Use Request Network faggot. Mainnet this month.
Jaxson Peterson
I've only sold 1 digital item before and they charged me back on it. I was a reputable seller and I also had proof that the buyer had a history of doing it, so I won that claim easily.
Maybe you could check his history and see if he also has a record. Then upload it to the PayPal case.
Eli Clark
Neither could I, yes basically selling rune scape gold / items just common stuff like this, there actually is a market for it surprisingly, but I guess the buyers are toxic..
The thing is its not realistic documenting every damn case cause I go through so many transactions i'd just blow up my pc with the amount of space id need with video proof / pics all this shit is so time consuming getting dirt on my buyer, I fucking hate this, paypal shouldn't be able to just take my money without any proof. I hate how they can just fucking dispute as "unauthorized transaction" why is this even allowed, if you get hacked its your problem.
Nathaniel Thompson
How do you obtain this "runescape gold" yourself? Do you pay chinks in the philipines a few bucks to grind for gold?
I'm getting ideas now
Jaxson Murphy
You can't go on the marketplace where you sold it and check for that specific buyer?
If not, then I don't know.
Dominic Bell
Just to add, maybe you should just take crypto payments in the future.
Thomas Ramirez
Last I checked, PayPal offers zero seller protection for intangible items.
Matthew Murphy
BitBay doesn't have this problem.
Michael Bennett
Wow, I do the same thing, rwt mmo vidya items as well. Chargebacks are fucking cancer. The only thing I've been able to do is search their ip/email/username through a db search site and try to destroy as many of their accounts as possible.
Jaxon Powell
I've also sold RS gp in past, really simple workaround is to have a main PayPal account that is actually hooked up to ur bank, and the make a 'fake paypal' using a empty visa gift card. Once I've sold like $200 worth or so, I transfer money to real PayPal and close the fake one and just reopen another one.
Brayden Ramirez
Some people bot them or grind for them, myself I find exploits and thus generate infinite gold etc..
I dont use ebay or anything I advertise myself but all transactions are done person to person via me sending an invoice
So why would it default to them winning the case? I dont get it...
I do report them but it probably does nothing in all honesty
Crypto is too much of a problem converting into fiat for my country also all the fees and stuff moving from place to place isnt worth it
Michael Adams
Yep.
You also miss out on about 70% profit. If you don't accept paypal, you reject a massive amount of customers. If you can't accept credit cards directly either, that's another near 30% of customers you're turning away. If you only accept crypto then you'll get almost nobody. Customers won't trust you unless you have an already built up reputation.
Once you start paying paypal tens of thousands of dollars in FEES then you start winning more chargebacks. Speaking from experience.
Thomas Taylor
Pretty sure thats against the ToS and if they ever do find out your real acc will be limited and what not, too much effort (I deal more than $200, so I cant be bothered making like an account for every transaction)
Nathan Baker
>I dont use ebay or anything I advertise myself but all transactions are done person to person via me sending an invoice Yeah, sorry but I don't think you'll get your money back.
That kind of thing gives you no leverage when shit hits the fan.
David Martinez
Do you have a website or do you sell through forums?
Ryan Gray
>Once you start paying paypal tens of thousands of dollars in FEES then you start winning more chargebacks. Speaking from experience.
Damn not surprised to say the least. Do you also issue out personal invoices as payment? Or do you have a business acc or something.
Nope no such website, but I use websites and make a thread under the trading section and such to advertise, its good enough and better than making my own website which no one would probably trust/use