So Veeky Forums what kind of work will the first few Astronauts once they land on Mars?
I know the main point will be to prove Humans being able to land / take off, but they'll still perform scientific work.
I'm thinking seismological experiments to try and get a better idea of the interior of Mars. Maybe also try and get geological samples to research the magnetism on Mars.
We currently and in the future have data have data from Rovers, but I'm assuming it's limited compared to what astronauts would be able to gather.
>> seismological experiments Can be done (better) by robots
They will mostly hunt for rocks, plant flags, look good on TV, and leave.
Rovers are getting better. We might even be able to do the same stuff humans could do sans photo-ops with telerobots. You put humans in orbit around Mars and have them control robots on the surface. It makes doing a Mars mission a lot cheaper
Parker Lopez
I agree, I think they'd be doing a lot of geology and chemistry, as well as set up some seismometers. I think something else they should experiment with is biology, like testing how microbes act in the low gravity and low pressure environment. I have a feeling that because the intensity of the sun is less, the photosynthetic process may be effected. Maybe since it's less energy, plants wont produce as much sugar as we expect and this could cause trouble for civilization there. They should also experiment with sending/receiving signals. Like I'm curious to know if Martians can watch Earth television?
Kevin Sullivan
Looking for fossils would be the best/coolest/optimal thing human would do on mars better than robots imo. A matter of rock manipulation and visual recognition in situ than no explorer would do on its own.
Landon Baker
We can do low gravity biology experiments in space. Dumping microbes on Mars violates the outer space treaty.
With deep learning we can train robots on every fossil we have photographed
Eli Wilson
>Dumping microbes on Mars violates the outer space treaty. sending a person to mars is already dumping microbes there. You don't have to bring anything extra, literally breath on a petri dish and you'll have your experiment. Also, do you really think that fucking treaty is going to last? >With deep learning we can train robots on every fossil we have photographed Martian fossils may not look anything like Earth fossils.
James Perez
And why wouldn't the outer space treaty last?
>> martian fossils may not look anything like earth fossils Then human geologists might not recognize them either
Samuel Russell
Way to ignore the main point of my post: >sending a person to mars is already dumping microbes there. The outer space treaty won't last precisely because of this. The human body can't survive without bacteria, and humanity isn't going to not send people to space just because of a treaty signed in the '60s. Besides, even if it does last, how will it be enforced? These are all political discussions anyway, and this is Veeky Forums not /pol/.
>Then human geologists might not recognize them either They still have a better chance than robots do. And that's the point.
Aiden Jenkins
Look for cool rocks
Camden Collins
>Dumping microbes on Mars violates the outer space treaty. What? How would experiments on microbes violate the Outer Space Treaty? Which section prohibits it?
Jacob Perez
I dont know in which way it is prohibited but the reason is that we might never know if there actually was life on mars if we contaminate it
Angel Lee
Unrelated question but how can people claim that reusable rockets will not be profitable?
Is that just handwaving because they can't/won't do it?
Gabriel Stewart
>What will the first astronauts do on Mars? Fuck, mostly. Just like the first ones on the moon.
They fuck, they pick up some rocks, they fuck again, they play a little golf, they fuck some more...
Nicholas Stewart
Probably croquet.
Kayden Sanchez
Looking for a good water source since regolith extraction is energy intensive. Building minor infrastructure for following missions. Running a shitload of experiments that they brought with them. Driving and walking around looking for interesting things
Tyler Ward
Science the shit out of it.
Nolan Hill
>What will the first astronauts do on Mars?
Die
Andrew Wilson
Use their selfie sticks.
Noah Gutierrez
How many times did you save this?
Lucas Roberts
Fight pic related
Carson Reed
Probably just live there for a while, really not much else to do on mars, we can't check the water for life as that'd risk contamination
Cameron Carter
You can do experiments on microbes or send people to Mars so long as you don't contaminate Mars. So you have to keep microbes inside a special container and sterilize it afterwards.
For humans, COSPAR does not currently have any guidelines for human missions to Mars, but has said they are not going to relax planetary protection requirements.
Most likely, for humans it's gonna be stay inside spacesuit while on Mars, maybe bleach it before going outside, burn all your shit, and stay the fuck away from anywhere on Mars with the potential for liquid water.
>> which section Article IX of the Outer Space treaty.
Adam Foster
>So Veeky Forums what kind of work will the first few Astronauts once they land on Mars?
realistically? Science experiments. Probably plant cultivation since that requires the most human handiwork.
Levi Scott
play basketball and do 360 windmill dunks
Hunter Martin
Acting.
Justin Rogers
>With deep learning we can train robots on every fossil we have photographed So the robot will be excellent at searching for ... Earth based fossils. A human, on the other hand, has this funny quality called curiosity that leads to unexpected discoveries.
Camden Kelly
Oh that's quite funny because we have artificial curiousity now: youtu.be/1zMz4JQKgIU
Geologists certainly aren't trained on martian fossils, they will be looking for stuff that resembles Earth based fossils.
Easton Hernandez
>Muh AI
Yeah fuck off. Human master race will always be above you fucking WEEB
Jackson Johnson
Aeiou
Alexander Ortiz
Joking? Or did you watch just a few seconds of that video? The "interest" was rather random and we got hardly anything to explain how level of interest was determined.
Your comment on geologists suggest you are not familiar with research and the way scientists work.
Christian Evans
Is it true that because of the tiny gravity of Mars, the human colonists will eventually have trouble returning to Earth because of decreased bone density and muscle strength? Won't the colonists' offspring eventually grow lankier and weaker as the generations progress?
Ayden Sanchez
Who claims this? Because the most intelligent people on earth don't think so. SpaceX, etc....
Dominic Foster
I don't understand this considering the atmosphere of Mars is less than 1% of the Earth, making it impossible for life? Essentially, its atmosphere IS a decontaminator?
Landon Jones
we'll never walk on mars.
we'll be stuck here fighting civil wars and checking our privilages.
Blake Barnes
>Is it true that because of the tiny gravity of Mars, the human colonists will eventually have trouble returning to Earth because of decreased bone density and muscle strength? Yes, though there would also be health effects while they're on Mars. It's something we need to learn more about and get better at treating.
>Won't the colonists' offspring eventually grow lankier and weaker as the generations progress? Maybe? That would require a large population living permanently on Mars for a very long time.
>I don't understand this considering the atmosphere of Mars is less than 1% of the Earth, making it impossible for life? The atmosphere isn't suitable for human life. "Life" in general is pretty tough though.
Zachary Parker
Sending rovers in to settle planets is like sending robots in to wars for your country. Where's the conviction to stake your own life in the pursuit of a life of peace back home, or in this case, of new understanding and scientific progress?
Jace Peterson
>Make "manned" Mars mission >It's really just a rover stuffed with weed and astronaut suits >It lands >Locate alien base >Get them to dress up as astronauts and shoot some video >Spielberg directing via Skype >Hand over the weed as per the arrangement >Rover returns to Earth >FinalCutPro >Release to the sheep >Collect $100 billion for another "mission"
Thomas Bennett
Get cancer from all the radiation they are exposed to
Jackson Anderson
They'll fuck and make little Martian babies
Jose Mitchell
Determine if it's viable to mine/live on. If not, collect some shit and data and go back to earth. But I'm sure robots will eventually determine that before we even land on Mars.
Gavin Reed
>we'll never walk on mars. >we'll be stuck here fighting civil wars and checking our privilages.
If SJW like us win then what you say its true
if german nazis win then we will surely get to mars cause those guys are much better at rocketry than anyone else
me being a dirty nigger am screwed either way
Jaxson Walker
BOOTS ON GROUND OR BUST
Jaxson Jones
Public speaking, photography, and golf, duh.
Jaxon Phillips
JOHN MADDEN
Andrew Flores
watch anime
Ryder Ortiz
There are places on Earth that look an awful lot like Mars.
Mason Powell
Designated shitting planet
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Anthony Williams
Musk is going to declare himself Emperor of Mars. Then unpack his Tesla Rover and go for a drive.
Christian Reed
I sure hope they do lots of digging. Maybe they could find piles of gold under the surface of Mars, then space exploration will take off because it will be extremely profitable.
Charles Jones
Impressive, managing to be a consipracy theorist for an event that hasn't even happened yet!