Google is working on a flying car

>I'm leaving Veeky Forums, goodbye, forever, I'll find a better forum, you guys don't understand my genius

you're a fucking joke. if you're still going to shit up this place at least remain anonymous so we can't spot you and start vomiting profusely

Having witnessed your transformation from user into namefag, I have completely changed my stance on namefags. Go fuck yourself, attention-whore.

The problem with flying cars is regulatory

How hard would it be to make a plane that can take off/land at 80-100 kmh, and be only as wide as a traffic lane...

Flying Cars will never happen. The regulatory and liability hurdles are currently too high.

you can't even fly an ultralight helicopter anywhere resembling civilization or controlled air space.

>The regulatory and liability hurdles are currently too high.

Something which could be changed in an instant if you had a successful product, and a couple politicians supporting you
Liability is something that has needed to be fixed in the USA for a long fucking time

not hard. You can even get the landing and take off distances down to hundreds of feet.

youtube.com/watch?v=YKSH2E5lNV8

I tripped this OP precisely to rustle you and boy did I succeed
This. If the automation works the legislation will bend. Legislation exists to cater to what is currently capable, it doesn't ignore new developments in aircraft control.

By hundreds of feet you mean like 50 huh?
But you don't care about stopping, its just transitioning from flying to roadway travel on your way home. Or roads could have designated "landing" lanes, similar to designated turning lanes.

I think you are shooting yourself in the foot trying to insist on vtol, vtol is dogshit.

VTOL can be improved.

>I think you are shooting yourself in the foot trying to insist on vtol, vtol is dogshit.
If the same pedestrians that are crashing cars every day are piloting these things, VTOL is required because they are too fucking stupid to pull off a runway landing.

Assuming some ideal like self-flying cars, maybe.

I think more realistic concerns are accidents and domestic terrorism (wait, all terrorism is brown people, my bad).

super short take off and landing airplanes are basically the aeronautical equivalent of motorcycles.

You want something that can carry 3 passengers, driver, and some luggage? You need more space.

Can somebody help me out a simple but unrelated problem? There's no stupid questions thread

VTOL is limited by basic physics
You can't change physics

Nobody is piloting anything, as Musk said flying cars will only work if they are fully automatic
Or a more powerful engine
Fuck off

>Fuck off
You first.

That was a pretty dumb question.
The answer is no.

>"waaah we can't go to the moon, we're limited by basic physics!"
The military made the V-22 work when all other VTOLs had failed. It was hard and expensive but they got it done because they weren't limp wristed faggots.

You can't dismiss a technology without trying. mini-VTOL has never really been done seriously, just some military tests of standing on a giant fan and Moller's foolishness.

I think you might wanna hear it first.

Helicopters are the BEST you can do for VTOL, and it only gets worse from there

The osprey is an example of how any piece of shit can be made to work if you throw enough billions at it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey#Specifications_.28MV-22B.29
Look at its lift.
33,000 lbs empty
add 15,000 lbs of fuel
and its only capable of 5,000 lbs payload in a vertical lift at sea level.
Give it a full sized runway, and it can take off with 13,000+ lbs

Thats physics, you can't change that.
It is normal practice to use forward lift to take off with larger payloads in the military.

So whats the point of VTOL? A false belief that its easier to automate?

Osprey is basically a fancy STOL cargo plane.

This looks wide, how will this work on a road ?

Flying cars could happen pretty soon, considering all vehicles are going to be driven by AI in no more than 10-20 years

The question is if they have any advantage over regular means of transportation, and I think they don't.

>flying car

Oh you mean a helicopter?

Pretty awesome.

...

Of course. Did you ever think that car lobby allow you to fly?

>A: Here it is!
>B: Oh this looks fucking cool!
>A: Yeah just finished designed it! Everything is sleek and low weight!
>B: Yeah, I see that! What is it powered by?
>A: Those are electric motors.
>B: Awesome, like 90% efficient or more right?
>A: Fucking A! LOL It will fly for hours too!
>B: So, where are the batteries stored?
>A: Ah......uh........shit......
>B: You forgot to design a place for the batteries?
>A: .......
>B: How many batteries does it take?
>A: .................
>B: ....Okay, with batteries, how long is the flight time?
>A: ....um 15-20 mins.
>B: Ok...then what happens does it glide down when the power cuts out?
>A: .........
>B: Frank, I know you have 2 hours a day, to work on your own projects here at Google, but the offices on floor 7 still need cleaned since yesterday.

This is something that has always puzzled me. Why is it that a helicopter can easily attain lift while it is rare for a jetfighter to produce a ration of thrust/weight much more than 1?

cnet.com/news/a-i-controlled-helicopter-seriously-need-i-say-more/

It really depends on what you want to do with them, but they will never completely take over manual driving/piloting simply because people want to do those things for themselves.

That is "Lift Efficiency/Disk loading."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_loading

I tried that page on my T1 T2 and T3 lines, and it crashes on all of them.
Bloomberg is now officially trash.
It drives me nuts how shitty websites are now; with shitty java/flash.
Just stuck with HTML5 or fuck off already.

It is crashing your browser. There's some shitty code on the page that hangs Firefox for me. After a few moments it returns to normal. I think it is the overlay advertisement for their site or whatever that thing is that pops up. Well, it only freezes when that pops up at least.

Back in the day when people hand coded websites this shit happened less. Now any monkey with PC access can use shitty website builder programs with shitty layouts, bells, and whistles.

thx

You know, that helicopters can glide in a sort of way, at least land with no engine. Though this thing looks like it has no control over it's propeles, except for speed control

helicopters can autorotate
quad copters or tilt rotors cannot

We will get to a point where human driving is illegal everywhere except in controlled environments, for recreational purposes.

Not ever gonna happen.

nice NURBs bb

Why has everyone just completely forgotten about the autogyro?

To clarify, thrust comes from the propeller at the back while the rotor at the top is not powered at all, but rather works like a sort of wing using the same principle as autorotation in helicopters.

Because it's not autonomous and not even VTOL

They must have had a reason to prefer it over a helicopter. I think it's faster.

>(you)

I agree. I also happen to not see past my nose.

They can be made autonomous just like everything, obviously.
They can do vtol, sort of
youtube.com/watch?v=9ISIlgMcb-U
youtube.com/watch?v=nWjBTROfLMQ
But it requires at least some drive on the top rotor I think. Though I don't think vtol is at all essential for a flying car.

Of course but it would be harder to automate and hence too costly to sell to the plebs.

Why would it be harder to automate? Seems significantly easier than a quad rotor platform or something like that, actually.

Swashplates are more complex than just directly varying voltage to a quad motor. You would need precise repeatable fast actuator control and if you know anything about robotics this is hard. Also you have to sync it with the rudder. With quads absolutely everything is controlled by the prop speed and nothing else.

I want to start a flying car research group. Who wants to join? It will be lots of fun, trying to stand on various giant drones, maybe a BBQ after

How much are you paying?

It's voluntary but if an actual business grows out of it you can be a salaried employee. Think Steve Jobs' garage circa 1979. The local kids who didn't take part are probably kicking themselves now. Don't be that kid.

For the BBQ bring your own meat and beer

You can just use the meat from one of the unlucky fellows to fall into a giant quadcopter's rotor blades.

Indeed, you're an idiot if you think manual driving will be made illegal. you are an idiot if you think humanity will ever reach the point of automated vehicles everywhere to the point where such a law would be considered. you're an idiot if you think humanity will ever last that long in the first place.

>Of course but it would be harder to automate

fucking moron

?
You expect global nuclear war within 10 years?

I expect insurance companies to offer big discounts for auto-driving or at least built in crash-prevention systems
Followed by governments mandating it in every car
Followed by the government mandating cars be automatically driven on all government roads

You a tinfoil hatter? Civilization doesn't need nuclear war to be fucked over and decline, which has been happening slowly for the past 15-20 years. I guess you'd not know that since you're probably underage.

Why label them A and B if you are going to give one a name?

civilization ain't going to magically disappear even if whites die off
asians will continue, and they will invent autocars

Except their countries are all overpopulated and are going to implode, creating a super-massive cultural black hole.

how about you drop the tripcode retarded idiot

eat shit tripfag

That isn't what was said. Decline =/= disappear.

>What is chicken wire?

really fucking heavy.
Have you never worked a day in your life?

>What is carbon fibre chicken wire?

really expensive
Why would you waste carbon fiber on chickens?

Patricians will spend the money

quadcopters have redundancy

So now on top of using a completely shit form of lift, which is small electric powered rotors, you are keeping a 25%+ margin at all times.

For what purpose?

except when the battery dies

and? They've already sold off boston dynamics and probably have already given up on making a self driving car

Google is a software company, not a manufacturer. They aren't going to be taking Cessna, Bell or Piper on because there is no room to do so.

Not dying.

But it doesn't work that way.