In a thread about important scientific issues that aren't being worked on...

extenders and pumps actually work though, they're just extremely inconvenient and you risk damaging your dick

>implying that orgies aren't biased towards guys with huge peckers

> citation needed

>extenders
is it the same as jelqing or something like that

yeah pretty much, except there's ones you can wear under your clothes so it's not as time consuming

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25809129
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20868389
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18990153

small Ns and modest results - I doubt people would be willing to pay much for an extra cm or two.

Given how many people have very small penises (if the BJUI study is accurate, there are perhaps ~1.44bn men with an erect size of 5" or less - including ~180m with at most around 4") it seems that a method that provides substantial enlargement (multiple inches) is necessary.

source?

>orgies
>self-selected for (at least) average size or above

Maybe some med/bio people can speak up but has the process for natural penis enlargement been explained. At birth penises are small, during puberty they extend in length and girth under the influx of testosterone. However, when a male takes testosterone after puberty similar effects are seen in weight and muscle but not height and growth. What is the missing ingredient?

No homo, but I know a lot about dicks

First, I should mention that the proper measurement (what is done for most studies) is taken standing up, at the top of your dick, with it directed parallel to the floor, and pushing to the bone. A measurement means nothing without a consistent procedure. Doing otherwise is a different measurement. Also, don't trust anyone's numbers; on top of all the bias, *everyone* is notoriously terrible at measuring dicks. That said, the average numbers I see do make me wonder sometimes; but I'd trust the statistics over anyone's cute little hand measurements any day.

Second, length doesn't really matter that much, and can even be a problem (much stimulation just comes from clit stimulation which is harder to do if you're too long to insert all the way and grind pelvises). That said, girth does affect things a fair bit. That sideways stretch feels much better than that cervical punched-in-the-kidneys feel for most girls.

Penis pumps do work to some extent, but the gains are largely temporary. It can be a fun way to mix things up though.

I haven't tried myself, but after poring over the penis enlargement forums for some time - no homo - there seems to be a surprising case for such routines (stretching, "jelqing", and such). That said, it seems there's a lot of work involved (think every day for a year), and you shouldn't expect too much. It might be worth a shot though if you're really below average and *need* that extra little bit.

At any rate, I don't see anything really profitable in this. It's like good nutrition; there's not much room for a middle man. And even if you could come up with some quick effective operation or some "method" to sell, there's a shit ton of inherent liability issues (same reason we don't see many studies about penis enlargement techniques). You could build a thousand thundercocks, but if you fuck one dick, it's over; you'll be known as the guy who fucked that dick.

And finally, to reiterate: no homo.