I'm assuming that the answers to the first question will be something like "our representation of our innate understanding of spacetime." So, it seems to me like there is probably some pretty important shit we're missing. For instance, we assume that quantity exists-- but why? All quantification is rounding, all things are comprised of other things. The "things" we're differentiating and quantifying are not things at all, but compositions. tl;dr if there isn't really differentiation in nature, isn't our conception of mathematics basically flawed?
Mathematics is definitely not an understanding our space time. I have to ask, how much math do you actually know?
Jeremiah Butler
A lot of people think that's what math is.
Alright genius, if that's not what it is, what is it?
Grayson Morgan
Math is the application of logic to certain axioms dealing with values
Brody Morgan
Logic being our innate understanding of spacetime
Nolan Russell
>Logic being our innate understanding of spacetime No, not at all. Logic is the rigid application of rules, the rules dont have to based on anything real
Jason Baker
Shut the fuck up. I wish there was a /phi/ board.
Matthew Hernandez
Why, math is Rap Music of course.
Practically everything in the observable universe can be reduced to rap.
Christian Young
stop the load of nonsense with the shitty attitude you fucking highschooler
math is symbolic manipulation that corresponds to rules that fit our "intuition". it's as vague as it sounds. the idea is that by using very basic assumptions and rules we can prove that many, many things are true.
Jack Martin
You are being an ass. You don't have to know the answer to know something is wrong. I dont know what 32405239*429105 is off the top of my head but I know it isn't less than 32405239. You didn't answer my question; how much math do you know?
Jack Flores
This is helpful
Right. This is what I'm looking for.
Basic assumptions like... numbers correspond to things that exist.
How can we assume that? How did we get there?
Brayden Fisher
>numbers correspond to things that exist how the FUCK is that an assumption? how much math do you actually know?
I took calc in highschool and some bullshit in college
Juan Lee
to elaborate, I think you're mixing up science and math
what science does is making brittle models that seem to correspond to reality as far as we can see. this means, in essence, that if they were wrong, we would quickly notice. once you got a model set up, you can assume it works and use mathematical tools on it
Ryder Hill
Math is a numerical method of modelling systems.
Math is limited by error.
You are on the path to being correct.
Christian Morales
math and science are one singular entity.
rap music = math, so therefore rap music = science too.
it isn't hard, son.
Blake Clark
It's extreme for me to say it's an assumption, but my point is that in order for quantities to exist, there has to be differentiation. How do we assume differentiation-- why can we assume differentiation? It's a tendency we have as humans, but we know that it's arbitrary. What do we experience that is a 1, what basis do we have for saying that anything is separate from anything else?
Oliver Wilson
We percieve all sorts of different things that are simple to bundle together into conceptual units that are distinct from other conceptual units
Jayden Miller
I understand that science is imprecise and that math is limited by error. I'm asking-- what if our basis for quantification is false? I know it's unlikely based on our propensity for predictions.
Blake Carter
Exactamundo
We conceptually bundle them together-- arbitrarily. If these arbitrary bundles are our basis for quantity, what does that mean? Doesn't that imply imprecision/flaw in the most basic math?
Jaxson Allen
okay, to help you clarify what you're asking, you aren't asking anything about math, which is symbolic manipulation via inference rules, and you aren't asking anything about science, which is the making of mathematical models that seem to work
what you are asking about is philosophy, particularly epistemology, which asks about knowledge. whether it's arbitrary, whether there's any basis for believing the world "is" as it seems to us, etc, those all have pretty lengthy and complicated treatments. it's a very murky subject and you won't gain anything talking about it here except for idiots pretending to know about it after they skimmed wikipedia.
Jayden Robinson
No, math is entirely made up. It is not in principle based in any way at all on reality. Math is what happens when you invent a bunch of rules and then follow them and see what happens
Adam Gutierrez
>math is made up
then how do space shuttles exist?
Evan Wood
if math not real then who was phone?
Isaiah Bell
biggie smals
Dylan Miller
"math isn't real"
-user 2016
Jayden Sullivan
Because certain kinds of math are very useful for modelling reality
Zachary Peterson
yes, such as rap music .
Easton Perry
All math is rap music
Joseph Martinez
tru
Ryder Lopez
do you even physics motherfucker?
Lucas Hill
fight me faggot shitposting highschooler
Jackson Bennett
this dude gets it
Brandon Cox
I detect a rap battle brewing!
David Watson
I'll fight you with my neutrinos.
Kevin Baker
I'll destroy you with my hot lyrics, bitch ass.
Grayson Cooper
Don't worry they usually just pass on through.
Nolan Lopez
You know its unlikely because we take a slow and methodical approach to falsification, which I can agree that our vetting system needs work. However, I think the way things are and continue to improve is good as well.
It seems like over human history, we either continue to improve or shake the system enough to see the flaws and correct. Unfortunately, a lot of our leadership is ignorant of history, which is making progress slow and more encumbered than it needs to be.
Joseph Johnson
Did I mention my mixtape is made of dark matter?
Brody Smith
shit son, a lot of material and no content
Leo Hughes
So is your skin, nig-nog.
Landon Davis
I don't entirely get the rap shit going on here. Like, is it supposed to be funny or just an annoying kid shitposting?
Charles Price
lurk moar
Evan Martinez
>He doesn't know
William Nelson
Except for this is new shit someone is trying to force or I've avoided this meme for 6 fucking years.
