No Child Left Behind

>" ....governments should invest in facilities that benefit all societal groups of intelligence level, with highest priority given to the intellectual class, followed by the average ability citizens and the non-intellectual class respectively."

>'This is opposite of what the Dept. of Education has done for decades; spend about 10 times as much on the lowest-performing students than on the highest. And even qualifications for Advanced classes are dumbed down to get racial diversity, leaving the brightest bored, ignored and unchallenged. And universities, as we know, shut out qualified white students because they're not the right color, in favor of less qualified minorities.'

>Study: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000476
>Source of Comment: amren.com/news/2014/05/the-impact-of-low-average-and-high-iq-on-economic-growth-and-technological-progress-do-all-individuals-contribute-equally/

How true is this? Is the success of Germany's scientists due to the Gymnasium system?

Other urls found in this thread:

ukgermanconnection.org/german-school-system
natureindex.com/news-blog/ten-institutions-that-dominated-science-in-twentyfifteen
scientificamerican.com/article/the-worlds-best-countries-science/
npr.org/sections/ed/2016/04/27/475628214/most-high-school-seniors-arent-college-or-career-ready-says-nations-report-card
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Everybody knows it's true, but poor and dumb people far outnumber the rich or the intelligent, so it's a good strategic move as a politician to bone the latter two and get the vote of the former two.

How German schooling works:

ukgermanconnection.org/german-school-system

According to talent regarding intelligence and/or school performance as a child you are put into a certain level of schooling. The less intelligent students take much less schooling and are immediately put into the workforce. Average-talented get slightly more schooling. The highly talented receive much more schooling.

>1) Hauptschule
In the majority of the federal states, students spend five years at the Hauptschule. The main objective of the Hauptschule is to prepare students for their entry into the world of work. Once students have obtained their Hauptschulabschluss (leaving certificate) at the age of 15-16, they can go into vocational training, start entry-level work in the public sector, or attend a Berufsfachschule (full-time vocational school).

>2) Realschule
Students attend the Realschule for 6 years. It gives them a broader general education and expects them to show greater independence. In comparison with the Gymnasium, the pupils are given a more vocationally-oriented education. At the end of Klasse 10 they obtain the Realschulabschluss (leaving certificate), which gives them different options: in-company vocational training, work in the public sector at entry and executive level, or further school-level education at secondary level II or at a Fachhochschule.

>3) Gymnasium
Students attend the Gymnasium for eight or nine years before they take their final examination (Abitur or Hochschulreife). The Gymnasium is designed to provide students with an education which will enable them, once they have passed their Abitur, to study at a German university or equivalent. Students at secondary level II (the last two or three years at the Gymnasium) select two or three Leistungskurse (specialist subjects). Their Abitur mark is based on the assessment of these Leistungskurse and two other subjects.

Wasting time and money of less intelligent people by tricking them into studying while they are not capable of taking significant advantages of it is pretty much scam.

Unfortunately, the allocation of money in an underfunded system is trivial. The actual issue is the fact that quality education for the average or above average student is simply overlooked in the United States

...

I believe that raising the lowest bar higher benefits us all in the long run.

I'd say its more to do with the fact liberals are traitors, and deliberately work to undermine the country

Not this shit again...

>liberal boogeyman
see

This is the European system, it is common practice for the most developed countries except USA.

It is not special it's just USA who have a different approach than the rest of the world.

Umm... Doesn't the US have just about all the brightest minds on the planet, including the vast majority of the best schools in it? Doesn't it output a lot of the most relevant research worldwide, constantly contribute to emergin technologies etc etc?? How is it not working, exactly? I'm not even american.

Two words: Green Card.

Germany has very much in the culture to encourage and regard technology and science highly. Kids think engineer and scientist are cool things to become. It has a high status there. Whereas in other societies other occupations have higher status.

Besides China is slowly overtaking USA.

>Established in 1949 in Beijing, the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) is the world’s largest scientific organisation, comprising 114 institutes and 48,500 researchers. In 2015 its scientists made the largest contribution to high-quality research included in the index, a contribution that’s grown by a compound annual growth rate of 6.8% since 2012.

natureindex.com/news-blog/ten-institutions-that-dominated-science-in-twentyfifteen
scientificamerican.com/article/the-worlds-best-countries-science/

Fuck affirmative action.
>be a nigger
>work hard, obtain fantastic highschool grades
>enroll in a good university
>people assuming I only got in because I'm black
>work hard, top of my year in most courses (doing chemistry)
>land a mad scholarship
>people STILL assuming I only got it because I'm a nigger

I'm fucking tired of having to "prove" that I'm not here on a hand out. This system is atrocious on so many fronts.

Jacob got what he deserved, but i cant help but feel sorry for him.

>muh immigrants
With that logic, Europe should be outperforming North America, South America, Asia, and Oceania.

Technically it is see More than 2/3 of the countries with highest scientific output are from Europe. Only thing is that rest of the civilized world refers to them to as UK, Germany, France, etc...

>quantity is better than quality
Lol ok, this is why your continent and America's is diminishing

>quantity is better than quality
The index measures quality as well FYI

>personal bias in index
wew

am I Jacob? .. is this dream?

They look at not just the amount of research papers and their quality, but how well the research is being used and applied. How many patents are being created for research, meaning how well its's being applied into technology. How well are the countries using it to advance themselves. How it's contributed by government research, university research, but by industry as well, meaning how businesses use it and how countries profit. How many students are educated in science and technology, etc.

This is why affirmative action should stop being for races and start being for social classes.

I see nothing wrong with poor people, regardless of race, getting aid and no rich white boy is ever going to shame a poor person for getting the help he needed to catch on.

In America black people are in average poorer than white people so this would still mostly help them but no one will ever shit on you for being poor because that is just a shitty thing to do.

And rich black people who get into good universities because of affirmative action (look up the billionaire leader of black lives matter) are just the worst kind of people in the world. Having economic privilege was not enough for his bitch ass, he also needed black privilege because he was that much of a dumb fuck when it came to academics.

AND THEN HE STILL MAJORED IN UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING.

>AND THEN HE STILL MAJORED IN UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING.

LOL, I spit my tea out...well I would have had I been drinking, but it's the thought that counts.

Yes, we are Jacob.

It is surprising because he is rich and privileged under affirmative action, so you know he could have gotten the best degree in some kind of high paying engineering field.

>Black professor fails you
Hey take a million dollars and just make it a B, senpai.

>White professor fails you
YOU FUCKING RACIST. IT IS BECAUSE I AM BLACK RIGHT? HOW COME ALL MY BLACK PROFESSORS GIVE ME B'S BUT YOU GIVE ME F. FUCKING RACIST.
#BLACKLIVESMATTER
#BLACKGRADESMATTER

It would be that easy to get the best high paying degree but I guess he knows that regardless of what he majors in, he is still a billionaire so the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't give a fuck.

Well, if he actually got a degree in engineering, or something, wouldn't it be put to the test? I mean why is is going for a diploma then if he's rich? If he got a job as an engineer he would show his incompetence, but you sure can't fail in basket weaving

That is true but honestly in my last post I was just mocking the mentality of that kind of people.

I truly believe it is sad that someone could be born with so much favourable traits and then not using them to bring any good.

I rich person who then becomes an engineer, a doctor, a (good) businessman is a bit admirable (not much because they are rich so they had no way of failing) because then they would open businesses and provide positions for many other people thrive in.

It sucks that someone would instead decide to be a social justice protester and do literally nothing for society... except for killing innocent policemen at their protests. Which we all know, is a good thing right?

Agreed,

Funny the Hispanic people benefiting from affirmative action come from good homes, have white names, and can't speak a word of Spanish.

>wouldn't it be put to the test

Testing his knowledge is racist.

He just wants to suck better cock, so just let it go.

Because we brain drain other countries. Our high school test scores are abysmal.

npr.org/sections/ed/2016/04/27/475628214/most-high-school-seniors-arent-college-or-career-ready-says-nations-report-card

>pure coincidence this study from the Department of Education came out around the same time the government announced it would mandate that schools would have to accommodate transgender bathrooms

>>pure coincidence this study from the Department of Education came out around the same time the government announced it would mandate that schools would have to accommodate transgender bathrooms

Please my man, don't tell me you have something against trans bathrooms.

Let them pee where they want. literally who gives a fuck.

Being part of a "struggle" is how rich non-whites/asians make their political careers.

Who cares about the societal costs when the plebs actually eat your shit up?

>Let them pee where they want. literally who gives a fuck.
Exactly, why waste money on an extra bathroom that could've been spent on something more important just so that one kid can continue feeling like a special snowflake?

I don't you could have missed the point I was making harder if you had tried.

Your vagina's showing.

>be white
>middle class (single parent, 2 younger siblings, mom pulls ~90k)
>work hard, obtain 3.9 GPA, 2300 SAT 35 ACT
>apply for colleges
>get fucking waitlisted or rejected from all but 1 worthwhile state school, only accepted to local CC
>enroll at state school, barely any financial aid

>upper class white kids at my HS all go to best state school
>one upper class white kid goes to MIT b/c he "made" some projects
>both his parents were Intel engineers with PhDs in their fields
>another kid goes to Harvard b/c his parents went
>some people that legitimately worked their asses off and had potential barely made it to an Ivy league
>shit-tier slightly smart kids (1900 SAT, 3.5 GPA) get into a fuckton of Ivy leagues b/c affirmative action
>Asian friends with roughly same stats as me barely get in anywhere b/c AA double-shafts them, assumes they're smarter by default

The problem with affirmative action is that it doesn't address the problem of WHY underrepresented minorities typically score lower, with the exception of East Asians. Typically, the issue is in the schooling and parenting of the child, along with some genetics. Handing out admission tickets to some kid because he looks like he had a shit upbringing is downright insulting.

Skeleton jelly?

Sure wish I had one right about now m8. Instead I'm stuck with my acking balls.

See

>Is the success of Germany's scientists due to the Gymnasium system?
what? german scientists suck. great engineers yes, but science? no. the whole german science system sucks ass.

see

w8 b8

'Liberal' isn't a boogeyman. Neoliberalism is the dominant ideology in the world, and it should be criticized by anyone with a brain because it ain't fucking perfect, I hate to break it to you.

>calling neoliberals liberals instead of neoliberals

I used to go to Texas. The No Child Left Behind act actually does instate a form of gifted education. The problem is no schools take it seriously.

In texas, I went to 2 different highschools. They are required by state to have some sort of "gifted" program for students who excel much beyond their classmates.

The first school I was identified in had a special class period you could choose as an elective. Yes, that's technically a program, but the problem is this; they put us with a stupid teacher, structured us, and made us do boring shit nobody wanted to do. There were only about 4 of us, but still, that's not taking it very seriously.

My second school it wasn't even a class period. It was 2 times they took us off campus for the day during the whole school year. And somehow that classified as a "G.T. program". This school was even smaller than my first one, but somehow they had more G.T. students, indicating that they were loose on testing or they just let anyone who really wanted in. Some of those kids were easily below average, and I could tell. I was really the only actual person who belonged in the program in the whole school (of about 150 students). At my old school, a campus size of 600 and there were only 4 identified. In the campus of 150 students, there were somehow 6 identified.

I've heard rumors about much bigger campuses having class periods where you could tell the teacher whatever you wanted to learn, and they would help you learn it. If that was the case I'd probably be a lot more ahead than I am now.

It might just be a Texas thing, though, seeing as there are a lot of uneducated hicks around here.

is there more of this image? like the pic of what the living room looked like

>>work hard, obtain 3.9 GPA, 2300 SAT 35 ACT
>>get fucking waitlisted or rejected from all but 1 worthwhile state school, only accepted to local CC

I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe you. Unless there was some major unmentioned blemish on your record, or you only applied to Ivy League schools.

My school literally wanted me to skip three grades. Parents decided on only one due to growing up 3 years younger than one's peers would equate to a bad childhood

You should probably learn what the word neoliberal means.

I never even got the ability to skip grades. Only advanced classes in the first school.

I actually had 2 chances for advanced math and squandered them like a little asswipe. I wish I could tell my former self to just do the work. It wasn't even hard it just took a long time and I guess I thought computergame was more important or something.

>boogeyman boogeyman
see

If you're "gifted" by not being a complete tard you can skip grades. There are also private schools if you have a brain and you can SAT into college if you're actually smart.

If I had the opportunity, nobody told me. Plus, I was already pretty outcasted as it was. Going up a grade the biggest challenge would probably be watching my ass in the halls.