What does it feel like to be a genius?

What does it feel like to be a genius?

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It feels like unmitigated contempt for those less intelligent than you

In other words, it's indistinguishable from being a douchebag

Same way it feels to be an accomplished author, except you get to make people toys instead of interesting fiction

It feels alone.

Depends on the person's value system, which drives the type of results and actions they'll seek out and find rewarding.

If I had to say, it'd probably be "frustrating", leading to waves of apathy.

feels like either nothing (ie normal)

or happiness

inteligence or IQ != genius
genius are driven because they want to get gud.

like the intelectual version of Veeky Forums faggots.

If you think of yourself as a genius, you're definitely conceited.

I don't know.

Feels like you're on speed ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Most intelligent people are readily aware they're not quite like those around them, whether they like and accept it or not.

I know that feel braaah I'm smart but crazyyy

being intelligent is not enough for a genius.
you need to help advance a field of knowledge (art, philosophy, science).

Most stupid people are readily aware they're not quite like those around them, whether they like and accept it or not.

It feels great once you find your crew.

Before that it can be a rough slog until your teenage years. But then you'll gravitate to others like yourself and consume similar books and art. After that it will help guide your choice of major in college and your choice of spouse.

Then you'll be happily married and raise your kids using the most current parenting research.

And all of that involves opening up your heart at the right moments. Geniuses think they can analytically solve every problem but that will backfire. You can't solve ...And Justice for All or Pink Floyd. You can't solve your wife or kids. You can't solve your parents or siblings. You can't solve your friends. You can't solve yourself.

The true genius recognizes that heart is as important as brain. You have to drop the analysis and really feel shit. That's when you can experience love and inspiration.

Yes. Don't act like I need to go into the full spectrum of cases when you clearly already understand.

This man is a fully indoctrinated normalfag. Do not listen to what he has to say. He has about as much agency as an ant or a bee.

I love watching ants, they're so goddamn fucking neat. Fuck. Hundreds of tiny little machines doing various tasks.

The other day I was watching this one ant crawling around on some interlocking blades of grass. It would travel their lengths, investigate the ends, turn around, go back. That was it. It was just tracing the edges and wasn't really even keeping much of a map in its nervous system, as it frequently investigated the same route multiple times. Either that or I've misinterpreted what it was trying to do.

Can't complain generally. Every once in a while it gets a little lonely wanting to go balls drop into some esoteric subject that I've been reading up on but the internet can mostly cure that. Sometimes boring too. People don't drink to realize how often they repeat the same things.

Early teens were hell because I played sports, but that kind of made me an outsider to everyone...learned some important lessons about when to shut up and listen (as much of the time as you can) and when to assert myself.

Honestly, the biggest benefit for me is just time. I learn things fast and can do quite a lot of tasks quickly, very quickly. In my late 20s I find a good place for me worth making money against just enjoying myself, so yeah, pretty good. Altogether, I'd say I'd choose it again.

For those out there struggling to find your way, learn to enjoy the process. Learn to not get annoyed, to be patient. Learn to listen. Learn that just because someone might be wrong, it's not your job to correct them. Keep poking and prodding at subjects, you'll find something that makes it worthwhile: And most importantly, never, ever let anyone out work you at something that matters. High innate intelligence is like steroids. You don't get big just taking pills, you still have to go lift the weights. Sharpen your mind and fill it with more useful stuff than trivial stuff. Be kind, but don't be a doormat. Respect others and yourself.

My way don't get you a Nobel prize, but you'll be happy.

Channers are headed to 3 places. The first is animosity towards fellow beings and their destruction which is awful. The second it towards stagnation, which is apparent on most boards. The third is towards integrative change which involves embracing being a channer and a human being.

You want to enshrine agency. That's fine. You know who had agency? Victor Frankl who stayed back in concentration camps to help his fellow man when he had the chance to escape. One could argue that the ones who would escape lacked agency.

Agency is taking a bullet for your loved ones. Agency is dying for what matters. Agency is subsuming yourself for something more important. If not, then bacteria have agency. And I'm not interested in being a parasite.

>One could argue that the ones who would escape lacked agency.
They could but it would be a dumb argument full of faulty embedded assumptions about the nature of agency and human value judgements.

It implies the path of least resistance is equivalent to slavery to base instinct, and therefore implies a lack of agency, then does that gaudy shit where you put heroics and apparent selflessness on a pedestal.

Just stop.

>Agency is taking a bullet for your loved ones. Agency is dying for what matters. Agency is subsuming yourself for something more important.
Taking a bullet for another person is lack of self value and not wanting to be alive to begin with.
Dying for "what matters" is the same. It means you're tired of being alive, and see this "meaningful death" as an out.

Bacteria are machines. Humans are machines. Agency is the appearance of a capacity to self evaluate and make greater choices in accordance with one's true sense of value.

What DOES it feel like to be a genius?

>They could but it would be a dumb argument full of faulty embedded assumptions about the nature of agency and human value judgements.

How about you choose for yourself and let others choose for themselves?

You want everybody to be selfish but you're here sharing information on a public board for free. Maybe you're not so selfish after all.

>It implies the path of least resistance is equivalent to slavery to base instinct, and therefore implies a lack of agency, then does that gaudy shit where you put heroics and apparent selflessness on a pedestal.

Humans are social creatures. Evolution proves that. A lone human is a dead human, historically speaking. You don't think we have selflessness in our genes? You think selflessness got us to the top of the food chain?

When someone on the street asks you for the time or directions, do you tell him to fuck off? You might argue that you help because you don't want to deal with drama but that's untrue. Evolutionary theory shows that we are an extremely cooperative species. We are slow, weak animals. Working together based on social bonds got us this far.

>Taking a bullet for another person is lack of self value and not wanting to be alive to begin with.

Are you high, nucca? If you wouldn't take a bullet for your offspring, you're not just a coward, you're evolutionary unfit to keep going on. I'd take the time to explain it but I shouldn't have to since we're on Veeky Forums.

>Bacteria are machines. Humans are machines. Agency is the appearance of a capacity to self evaluate and make greater choices in accordance with one's true sense of value.

You must be on some serious shit. You know where your "true sense of value" comes from? It comes from language. Which comes from your parents and your community. Animals have no "true sense of value" because they lack language. Your entire "true sense of value" is owed to your community. You didn't invent it. You would have been a feral monkey if your parents didn't raise you

It's the same as saying you have a big dick. Nobody that would ever participate in such a ridiculous conversation would ever believe you.

>concentration camps
HEAUEAHAE

>How about you choose for yourself and let others choose for themselves?
I just did. How? Because I can do nothing else, nor can you.

>You want everybody to be selfish
I want people to realize that they -are- selfish. Even if you actively screw yourself over, you're still getting something out of it. Human experience is multifaceted, you don't have only non-conflicting desires at a time.

>sharing information on a public board for free.
I'm--

Alright, I just skimmed the rest of what you said, and I'm not going to continue. You're really injecting a lot of shit into this that I never even vaguely implied.

People expend energy for many reasons, with many goals. Ideally it's to realize the ideal version of a world, and personal existence, that they want to see. Or create conditions that are seen as valuable for other reasons. It's a complex framework and is not worth talking about, your definition of "selfish" is completely useless and overapplied.

>If you wouldn't take a bullet for your offspring
You said "loved ones", not offspring. Stop changing the subject and acting like you're being more specific than you really are.

>You know where your "true sense of value" comes from? It comes from language.
Logic and language are intertwined, and might well be two sides of the same coin, but that has severe limits to be placed on it. You also don't know shit about other organisms. For all you know, no one else even has emotions, except for yourself.

Fuck off. This rapidly expanding tangential conversation you've created here isn't one I feel like dealing with.

>actually believing in the Holohoax
okay, now I know for sure that you're an indoctrinated sheep.

>Fuck off. This rapidly expanding tangential conversation you've created here isn't one I feel like dealing with.
Dammit, now I feel bad. You sound like some ~18 year old that's just trying to get it figured out, even though he thinks it's all quite clear.

Keep thinking. When you're in your 20's it rapidly begins to become clearer. I'm not sure why that's the threshold, but it is.

>believing that the Holocaust didn't happen

>Fuck off. This rapidly expanding tangential conversation you've created here isn't one I feel like dealing with.

Fair enough. I accept your "Fuck off."

Itt: average people who believe they are geniuses.

It takes serious balls to hang back and help out your comrades when you could just run away. John McCain refused an early release from POW camp when you or I would have shat the bed, sucked cock, and taken any deal.

You know where those balls come from? It comes from bonding with others. You see how animals huddle together, are constantly touching each other, and sleep in close contact? We used to be like that. Now we have our 'personal space' and a myriad disorders to go along with it.

>okay, now I know for sure that you're an indoctrinated sheep.

Sheep don't die on their feet. I hope you find something to believe in that's bigger than yourself because you, and I, are going to eventually die. But I had awesome parents so what do I know...

>You know where those balls come from? It comes from bonding with others.
This isn't true. Beyond my parents to an extent, I've never meaningfully bonded, much less interacted, with another human being in my entire life. The small periods of time I wasn't physically alone, I felt like an outsider that was just alone with others. Now I'm just alone. Yet even I can go out of my way greatly for other people, despite never connecting nor even caring about my own survival.

It seems you didn't understand a word I said above. People's sense of value is complex, and this drives their actions and what roles they're willing to be in. There is no inherent connection between social bonding and "having balls to do x, for y."

I've also walked 45 miles through subzero temperatures, with inadequate clothing, having not slept for 3 days, no water, and no food. I survived, and I had nothing waiting for me. You need to rethink you model of what drives human behavior. You've probably been raised on feel good delusions, power of love, or whatever else, I'm not really sure what your deal is. But you understand one possible facet of humans, time to expand.

Gorilla posters are OP.

Truly inspiring individuals, truly.

Bless your soul OP, for you are my comrade in life.

>Victor Frankl who stayed back in concentration camps

oh, not this shit again

>Yet even I can go out of my way greatly for other people, despite never connecting nor even caring about my own survival.

Well, you're not a psychopath. That's for sure. Your bond with your parents doesn't need to be conscious. The early years before you form memories are crucial for social adaptability.

>It seems you didn't understand a word I said above. People's sense of value is complex, and this drives their actions and what roles they're willing to be in. There is no inherent connection between social bonding and "having balls to do x, for y."

I agree that sense of value is complex but social bonding or relevance is huge. You can derive social relevance from construing how your behavior will help others, but it's still social.

>I've also walked 45 miles through subzero temperatures, with inadequate clothing, having not slept for 3 days, no water, and no food. I survived, and I had nothing waiting for me. You need to rethink you model of what drives human behavior. You've probably been raised on feel good delusions, power of love, or whatever else, I'm not really sure what your deal is. But you understand one possible facet of humans, time to expand.

I agree that I need to expand. You may be an anomaly. But you survived past your infant years solely due to the efforts of other humans. You required daily care, feeding, changing of shitty diapers, and holding. We know what lack of parental warmth does to monkeys (see Harry Harlow's experiments) and it's probably similar in humans.

You sound like a tough cat. I try to go with established psychological research (including stuff that may not be politically correct) for my theories. Humans can struggle through tough encounters, as you did. So I have to ask, What kept you going through those 45 miles?

>The early years before you form memories are crucial for social adaptability.
I'm not certain about social adaptability, but would say that early childhood is important for most aspects of intellectual development, and disposition. As is breastfeeding. My mother quit work and started a daycare to stay home with me. A lack of economic means for maternity leave of at least 5 years, as a society, is a crime against humanity as far as I'm concerned.

Although it fell apart and my parents split at 5. They tried. Eventually I would see my parents showed me much of what it is to be a good parent.

>You can derive social relevance from construing how your behavior will help others, but it's still social.
I have a bit more or a base way of looking at it. I view it no differently than watering your flowers because you want them to survive and continue blooming, because you value their appearance. On a grander scale interacting with people in a certain way has the potential for far reaching implications. Whether viewed on the micro, as in you want them to feel a certain way or to have things be a certain way, and derive a sense of value and positive feelings from thinking that's the case, or the most macro, where you're actively engineering your environment to function with certain dynamics because you think it's better for everyone that way, or you like it better, whatever.

Some is strictly social, some is strictly personal, some overlap. Most is dependent on context and frame of mind.

>You may be an anomaly.
I am. For better and worse.

Nobody knows, the idea of "genius" is mostly Time-magazine tier masturbation for insignificant adults. "Geniuses" are people who recklessly live their lives for one thing, they simply live a different life. But it's nothing innate.

I imagine a genius could look at the word four and then imagine 20 different ways to use it in a couple of minutes.

>What kept you going through those 45 miles?
This is difficult to put into words without giving a lot of context. Split mindedness was a part of it. A sort of apathy was present, as well. Although once your blood sugar has consistently dropped, your core temp is beginning to drop, and you're very tired, your manner of thinking becomes narrowed either way.

People occasionally talk about in states of hypothermia or extreme pain, hearing an "internal voice" urging them to continue. My internal voice however told me I had done enough, seen enough, and had enough. It told me to stop, and that it was okay to die. So I put down my backpack, laid down on it, and I remember looking up at the skeletal trees above, occasionally hearing people say things in my head, then drifting to a sort of half sleep. I woke up, probably not long later. Got up and kept going.

The split mindedness is having no real reason to be alive, yet continuing regardless due to some core irrational basis you don't care about but accept anyway. I suppose in part of my psyche I knew I'd survived years of health problems, chronic pain, all with practically nothing for support structures or external reasons to remain functional. Living in this sort of frame of mind showed me things, by force, other people likely don't have the means to understand or even know exist.

I suppose it just didn't seem quite right a machine that had proved it was possible to function and survive this way, would fizzle out in a ditch beside the road somewhere. My legs felt like they were broken with every step, and I just wanted to get home and eat. I acknowledged before I left that if I died that was just how it would work, but wouldn't necessarily just let it happen.

feels good until you realize that at some point you have to stop relying on your godgiven talent and have to put forth real effort if you want to stay ahead.

The average "genius" is the Hare and the average person is the Tortoise.

Here it's cringeworthy

Thanks for the reply.

You may be the type typified in Gladwell's stories about Davids and Goliaths. A rough childhood combined with enough support so that you aren't a psychopath but you have the grit to push through tough times. There's still much we don't understand fully about different personality types and their histories but we're slowly getting there. I hope you can harness your drive into something that you like and that contributes to our knowledge base. Cheers, user.

It feels euphoric.

Yo, it was a "rapidly" expanding relatively tangential conversation though.

Hmm let's see: 04:04, 04:14, 04:24, 04:34, 04:44, 04:54, 14:04, 14:14, 14:24, 14:34, 14:44, 14:54

That's 24 you tard

What?

This most of the time because it is difficult talking to people when you constantly need to bring them up to speed then their eyes glass over and you've lost them and the conversation.

It is difficult to hold a conversation with normies if you don't know what GoT character you are.

People tend to assume you're a moron who's perpetually confused and doesn't understand anything, because you start some number of steps beyond what they do. So you either have to wait for them to catch up to where you started, or just not try to interface.

I''m not confused, you're just acting like an overconfident moron.

You aren't a genius, piss-brain.

I don't think a genius would care about a title as cheesy as genius.

Someone said Genius isn't defined by solving problems but by finding new ones

Is this an unanswerable question? Can a genius empathize with a non-genius? If not, is sympathy enough to answer this question?

I am not a genius, but sometimes I will have a misunderstanding of something or come up with a problem that I can't find the answer to in regard to mathematics or physics and it will plague my mind for days and even prevent me from sleeping. I imagine that for some brands of genius the same thing happens to a larger degree. This phenomena (which I'm sure plenty if not all of you have experienced) cannot be good for your physical or mental health not to mention your happiness. On the other hand, I would never wish to lose the curiosity or intelligence that leads to this problem.

Fuck if I know.

this

Probably a level above the rest of humanity. I'm not a genius but I think I'm decently smart and when I compare myself to niggers I can understand why smart people can be such douchebags.

With genius you feel a lot less stress. One has more awareness of the world while at the same time having less questions to be answered. Less intelligent people have much more stress due to not being able to be aware of the macro aspect of society to go about life efficiently or just an overall self-assured manner.

The feeling of genius is calm, being more confident about decisions and one's path through life, and tend to think a lot more on macro scales. Example; off-time thinking tends to be not about myself but about society. Where society is leading, what is good for society, and so-on. The lesser intelligent one is the more micro one's thoughts are both due to incompetency to think on a macro scale and that one has more stress in being less able to resolve micro-based issues.

Source: Deemed child prodigy, and tested 156 on Stanford-Binet IQ test.

*fewer questions. I guess you aren't a grammar prodigy.

Even if you are classified as being a genius, it's hard to feel that way when you put that in perspective to the proportion of what you do know, in comparison to what you don't know, can't know, and will never know.

Fewer questions? Hardly. I'd say one should have even MORE questions. If not, you aren't as self aware as you think yourself to be.

Also misspell words here-and-there when doing stream of consciousness. Being genius does not mean an absence of mistakes and an automatic 4.0 GPA. Can assume you're a prodigy at being a jealous faggot.

I flew from NYC to San Francisco and the sun decided to stay up an extra few hours. I then flew back and it decided to go away early.

Another way of explaining is that there are less deemed required questions to be answered. There are thoughts and overall pondering; however, the thinking is on non-emergency aspects. Such as macro-level thinking which is for the purpose of society instead of for the purpose of either egoism or a self-state of need.

Continued: Having more awareness does not cause a reaction of having more questions. Example with the case of infants and their developing brain. They cannot process that when an adult hides behind an object that said adult does not cease to exist. Once the infant grows and has more awareness questions are only answered and not arisen.

It isn't a mistake if you don't know the difference.

I bet everyone is jealous of you all the time. It also must be hard to make friends when everyone you meet has "micro thoughts." How do you hold a conversation when everything anyone else says is of no value to said conversation?

If your rate of learning and curiosity are decreasing due to having fewer questions, aren't you becoming less of a genius by the minute?

I still don't see how one can be that intelligent and not have more questions. The more I learn, the more I want to learn, the more I question. Granted, I am more a thinking person than a human calculator. I guess the two don't go hand-in-hand necessarily.

Fewer is in regards to countable objects while less pertains to say water.

For being upset for mentioning a higher intelligence you sure like to go on pseudo-genius rants. Your micro thoughts right now are probably towards projecting your issues over a message board riddled with shitposting weeaboos.

Learning for my person is a matter of needing to obtain new information more-over than deciphering already given information. Searching for truths is more of a worldly labor regarding effort put in than spending time understand and connecting mental dots.

>How do you hold a conversation when everything anyone else says is of no value to said conversation?

This wasn't an attempt at a burn but an actual question.

I add value to the conversation by introducing interesting subjects the other more than likely does not know about. Going into the implication of having no personal use for socializing with some this goes back to thinking more towards macro. Socializing with deemed less-intelligent individuals is a non-egoism deal.

Well that's a given. Of course there is a want for new information, but to question information that is already given is still extremely important, if not just as important as finding something new. In fact, new information is often wrought out of information that we already possess. And to varying degrees, of course. 99% of new findings have roots in findings of the past.

Babbling aside, I would still like to think one would have even more questions have they any grasp of how much there is to learn. What you will learn in a lifetime is hardly a drop in the bucket in comparison to what there is to know. Even of knowledge we've already discovered, however minuscule or unimportant that information may be.

Granted, I guess there is a line to be drawn between information that holds any value. Knowledge for knowledge's sake isn't necessarily good either.

For understanding on subjects I figure multiple different answers and mentally attach a rough probability to each possibility. Not in an autisticly specific number but a general low/medium/high. The probabilities change as new information is given. This is opposed to common thinking where only one answer is determined by people then either given a 100% or 0% probability. Due to this accumulating more information is more important than pondering on given information looking for a 100% or 0% definition.

I'm with you. I'm interested in math, but the sheer number of mathematical disciplines is daunting. There is not a person alive who could learn all of them and there never will be. That's one subject.

Another question: have you never had difficulty learning something in your life. If so, didn't that bother you?

Why isn't knowledge for knowledge's sake a good thing? You never know how or when that knowledge may be useful.

What is defined as a genius? Is it when someone else calls you a genius? Is it a test you take that gives you an abstract number that supposedly represents your intelligence? What if a person is above average in everything allowing them to function in a cross disciplinary environment easily allowing for genius-like products to be produced by them?

A person may be retarded at math but have a genius level capability to interact with other people the same way someone who is a genius at math can be retarded socially.

I'm guessing being a genius would feel different based on what you were a genius at and the varying levels of ones other attributes more then just the sole fact that they are smart. Being a genius would be hell if you understood linear algebra in grade school but were unable to empathize or talk to people well. However if you were good at empathizing and talking it might be a wonderful experience to analyze their own ideas and attempt to explain them to someone who doesn't have the natural grasp of it. More so it might never even be a problem if the genius were to compartmentalize their existence and never really reveal their powerlevels.

Genius is actually positively correlated with genius in all aspects of intelligence. Said high intelligence is from a ratio of brain size and how well connected (mapped) one's brain is. Not being good at socializing while being genius can be a result of inexperience, lacking confidence, or an ailment within the brain of which may be heavy metal accumulation which is common among autistic children.

This.

Anyone can claim to be a genius. There's a definition, but it can't be quantified. If you claim it can be quantified, then I can claim that I'm different type of genius that can't be captured by your quantification method or I can claim that you just don't understand my genius. Then there's the issue of contribution vs natural talent. If you claim it's contribution, then I can just say that s/he was lucky to discover what s/he did. On the other hand I could claim to be a genius who is lazy and never applied my natural talent.

It's subjective. Nobody is a genius except the poster below. Prove me wrong.

Not really relevant to what I was talking about, but yes. Anyone with a relative grasp on scientific theory knows that nothing, even based in science is 100%. Science is always changing, evolving. And as our tech gets more and more advanced we discover that we don't really know much about a subject we may have thought to have a fair grasp on. And that's how it will always be. Nothing is 100%. I would say there probably EXISTS a 100% answer, but as of now that is not within our capabilities to ascertain.

Of course. No matter how good you get at something, you know you can be better. And when it comes to difficult subjects, that is one of the most frustrating feelings.

Granted, I wouldn't claim to be a genius. I think I am smart. But genius is a loaded word- or maybe I am too sensitive, haha. My IQ is around 152. Pretty decent I guess, but I don't put too much value into an iq number. Too many faucets of intelligence.

Perhaps- But our memory has it's limits. If it isn't something you are actually putting into use, we simply forget it over time. You can always relearn/retrieve something later if it becomes relevant. I'd go into more detail but I am too lazy and too tired. :P

Cont: I see my posts are becoming a bit... babbly. Apologies for that. It's pretty late for me.

>Perhaps- But our memory has it's limits. If it isn't something you are actually putting into use, we simply forget it over time. You can always relearn/retrieve something later if it becomes relevant. I'd go into more detail but I am too lazy and too tired. :P

I thought your point was referring to the knowledge of the entire human race. In terms of the individual, I definitely agree with your point.

Well I'm not a genius, so how would I know?

I just get somewhere between 115-120, every time I take an IQ test, which is hardly genius level.

Purely based off what I've read about actual geniuses like Einstein, not really any different than being a normal person just that you understand and enjoy one or two subjects better than almost everybody else. Given that it's probably compare it to a kid who is better at a sport in highschool then anybody else and breaks a bunch of records but only the people on his team really care or notice.

I can repeat your post replacing socializing with math or science and get the same result. Although I'm unsure where you pulled heavy metal poisoning from unless you are trying to refer to mercury in vaccines and then you are just being silly. I may not be a genius but I went to a school surrounded by geniuses and I can tell you right out that they are not great at everything, that is something completely different. If you are using a definition which implies high cognitive capability in all areas then I would be considered a genius as I am a jack of all trades and master of none. However as stated we can change the goalposts endlessly to the point that almost anyone could be considered a genius.

In my mind at least I am never the smartest person in the room, I may be better at some things but I will always be worse at others even if it's just how to get potatoes cooked just right or the fastest way to clean a room.

It's above average still, a fair number. Besides, as I said before, there are too many aspects of intelligence. I often find myself in envy of people who are more socially capable than myself, and especially of those with more motivation to succeed than I have.

I know I can push myself to have this motivation, but I've yet to muster the will for that initial shove. due to some pesky hormonal imbalances, as the hindrance of having a couple mental disorders.

Honestly you put it much more plainly than I did above. Haha.

Then they aren't completely stupid.

It feels both very good and very bad.

If by genius you mean IQ of >145 (Cattell B III), then it is kind of shitty.

I can't talk to anyone in depth about what I'm interested in and if I do manage to find somebody who's interested, it just turns into me giving a layman friendly lecture.

Plus, people who are interested just seem to enjoy the show I put on when I'm passionate about a topic, regardless of whether they understand everything I'm saying or not.

Also, I joined MENSA and most members seemed like pretentious ignoramuses whose deluded self-image is preventing them from actually learning anything new.

I'm not a fan of high IQ societies and I don't particularly think IQ tests are a good indicator of general scientific awareness and ability, which I see as a superior measure of intelligence.

I lurk about here in the hope that occasionally an intellectually stimulating thread might pop up, but one rarely does.

I spend most of my time on Veeky Forums educating other anons, either through friendly correspondence or an attempt at neutral correction.

However, corrections usually derail into exchanges involving the terms 'faggot', 'pleb' and 'brainlet'.

Oh well.

>I can repeat your post replacing socializing with math or science and get the same result.

Correct

> Although I'm unsure where you pulled heavy metal poisoning from unless you are trying to refer to mercury in vaccines and then you are just being silly

Metals as in several particles that pass the blood-brain barrier. With the mercury one can argue that the amount of grouped vaccines may not cause autism; however, even a speck can alter the brain negatively by attaching to neurons if not any other tissue in the body. Source of relation: jhc.sagepub.com/content/18/11/820.short

>I may not be a genius but I went to a school surrounded by geniuses and I can tell you right out that they are not great at everything

Chances are if you are not intelligent yourself you won't recognize those who legitimately are. Example is a kid who studies 8 hours a day to have a 4.0 GPA yet scores low on IQ tests. To a normal person he may appear to be genius.

>. If you are using a definition which implies high cognitive capability in all areas...

The definition used is the physical physiology of whats creates higher intelligence. In humans the relation is increased brain size and efficient mapping (connections) within one's brain.

>I will always be worse at others even if it's just how to get potatoes cooked just right or the fastest way to clean a room

This is a manner of knowledge rather than a direct relation to intelligence.

This.

Again, put it way better than I could. ffs I am terrible at wording my thoughts.

>I often find myself in envy of people who are more socially capable than myself, and especially of those with more motivation to succeed than I have.

This is probably caused by genetics and environment though.

I am as you say, above average intelligence, but my shitty childhood is still haunting me every day, and I have a completely shattered sense of self.

I doubt anyone of my friends hates themselves as much as I do, and this of course leads to me actually being a worthless idiot who just plays video games all day, because I honestly believe I'll never amount to anything.

I knew a guy in high school who had mercury poisoning. It was really, really bad. He missed an entire year of school and it took them forever to figure out what was wrong with him. They have no idea how he got so much mercury in his system.

>hates self
>intelligent

Why do you hate yourself?

I know a few people exactly like you. Including myself to an extent. It's a deep hole to try and dig myself out of, and when I almost make it out something inevitably knocks me back to square one.

I'd say you should probably try and be a bit less critical of yourself, but that would be rather hypocritical of me. Lol.

There's a lot more to self-worth than intelligence, unfortunately.

Dunno, probably something that happened in my childhood.

My father was a violent drunk, and my mother had advanced paranoid schizophrenia throughout my childhood; though she is healthy now, and lives a happy life, it took a while to get there.

I think I'm doomed to either of their fates myself too. Either becoming mentally ill myself, and committing suicide, or drinking myself to death. The latter seems probable.

>Even a speck can alter the brain negatively by attaching to neurons if not any other tissue in the body.
While interesting and true this lacks any proof or implication that these thing are occurring in people with genius capabilities in a select few subjects yet not in other areas. I can show you several papers pointing to how drug usage can cause brain damage and several more that strongly relate intelligence with the desire to experiment with drugs neither of them can be used to show that drug usage is related to geniuses.
>Chances are if you are not intelligent yourself you won't recognize those who legitimately are.
I may not be a birder but I can recognize a hawk, in 7th grade I had classmates that were bused to the local college because they had finished calc 2 at the nearby high school I think that might count unless you beg to differ? Also as stated before an IQ test isn't exactly reliable when it comes to defining a genius.
>The definition used is the physical physiology of whats creates higher intelligence. In humans the relation is increased brain size and efficient mapping (connections) within one's brain.
This is the definition you use, the definition of genius is "a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect."
>This is a manner of knowledge rather than a direct relation to intelligence.
Not true, a person who is capable of processing, incorporating and acting on large amounts of seemingly unrelated data results in such things. There are genius chefs and musicians who use some form of intuitive mental construct to interrelate information to produce uniquely powerful result. Place Beethoven or Picasso in a school and try to teach them how to be the best at theoretical physics or materials chemistry and I doubt they would do well.

I believe the term you are looking for here is polymath not genius.

>self worth

The self assessment of one's own mate value, made in reference to social status (prestige), dominance, access to (perceived high value) mates and ability to acquire resources, as well as the health of one's kin and social relationships.

You're upset because you feel as though you're not being a good ape, in relation to your genetically and environmentally programmed perceptions of success?

Very intelligent, user.

This.
That's the main difference between a very intelligent individual and a genius.
I'd imagine a genius would feel like the world is full of possibilities that s/he could explore.

You're definitely the opposite of intelligent alright.