Ketogenic Diet/Ketosis

Red pill me on the Keto diet. It sounds unhealthy and impractical.

>Fiber?

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it's a meme to get you to consume less calories. just watch your calorie intake instead

Just count calories for losing weight. Ketosis will fucking wreck your insides. And the meat shits are nothing to scoff at.

There's a mounting pile of evidence that it works really well for weight loss and is possibly health for you in other ways.

That said, it's restrictive as fuck, with a long list of foods you can't eat, a very low tolerance for messing up, and thus requires you to put a lot of planning and discipline into your daily eating.

Personally I say not worth it. You can lose weight eating normal food if you watch the calories and practice moderation with regards to macros (don't go all protein/all carb/all fat/etc.. just get a variety of everything). Takes time but it works.

I did the weight loss thing (5'6 270 pounds down to 140 pounds now).. and yeah, my reaction to keto was basically "fuck that shit.. I'd rather be fat".

If I was gonna subscribe to any fad diet, it would probably be paleo... which also has a lot of evidence of actually being effective but isn't quite as restrictive. Unfortunately most of my favorite foods are loaded with cards, so again, fuck that.

Ultimately I ended up just using myfitnesspal to keep track of my calories and getting more exercise (mostly just walking at first, then jogging..).

I did start eating a lot healthier over time, but I didn't switch to an all kelp diet or similar nonsense. Mostly just switching to whole grains, cutting back on sugar, eliminating pop and generally not drinking my calories, etc.

Really, "eat better and get more exercise" is all you need to do... you just need to be able to stick with it for a year or so.

Ive been in ketosis for 6 months i havent had any problems and im in better shape then what i was

I lost 5kgs while on keto diet over about 2 months. From 85 to 78ish kgs. Have to admit though that about half the time I wasn't even dieting cause I have shit willpower and the diet is pretty restrictive and would just break me. I'm still glad I did it cause I lost that weight pretty effortlessly.

I'm gonna start on it again soon or just watch my calories instead. On keto it's easier for me to watch what I ate cause I just cut out carbs and eat anything else I wanted

keto is fantastic, the food restriction wasnt a problem for me and it helped me not slip up even once. if your someone who really enjoys meat and cheeses then its very easy, but im pretty sure you can get low carb breads now which widens your options some

>cheeses

Isn't cheese non-keto?

A ketogenic diet is a diet that lacks any kind of carbohidrate.

What it actually happens is that your body needs sugar to live, his main biochemical routes used the subproducts of sugar to get ATP,GTP, NADH and FADH which in turn uses to build more molecules and in general stay alive.

When there are no carbohidrates you don't generate oxalacetate(which is like a swiss knife molecule since its transformed easily into other molecules for aminoacids or nucleotids or energy) normally.

So in turn your body switches to consuming your fats, since the body has this alternative route just in case there is no sugar left or no sugar intake for a while, the problem of extracting energy from fat molecules is that these molecules can't be disolved in water so you need to transform them into something that can be moved from a A part of your body to a B part of your body without causing embolism and fast.

The solution is to condensate the result of fat processing(acetyl-CoA->Malonyl------>D-beta-Hydroxybutirate+acetone+CO2) into something that can go into the blood stream and be taken directly from the blood cells and the tissues like the brain or muscles.

Now, ketogenic bodies are just a transport system, what they are not is the main form of energy distribution in the body: The Ketogenic bodies are acid by definition so even though your blood can compensate for pH drops there is still some very minor and acumulative damage also ketogenic diets are not as direct and efficient as normal diets it takes longer for the body to process the fat and your sugar "procesing" machine reduces itself if the diet persists.

Ketogenic diets are for people who have health problems, like diabetes and wouldn't last long anyway.

If you want to build muscle or just lose fat measure your calories and nutrients like any normal person would do, but if you still feel the need to go on a ketogenic diet talk to a specialist and take medical checks often.

Why do you Veeky Forums fags shit up this board so much?

What you want us Biochemistry not cooking. Eat some carbs ffa they are delicious.

>Red pill me on the Keto diet.
If you can't control your appetite, meaning you need to fill your stomach up each and every meal, you can (at first) feel undeprived of really luscious foods like a pound of bacon, slab of ribs, big steak, etc.
>>Fiber?
Most people take a fiber supplement and do experience some issues with constipation without it.
> It sounds unhealthy and impractical.
It can be impractical for the first 3 weeks, barely any dining out unless you really know what you're doing. There are keto strips to pee on to make sure you in ketosis and not doing the opposite, packing on calories. After that, it can be almost normal, esp in the low carb kind options most restaurant chains provide now. As far as healthy goes? Atkins died of heart disease, take that as you will as proof or just bad genes or a late start in life on it, or issues with inflammation. There's a good amount of negatives, such as kidney failure, kidney stones, and even blood sugar issues in people already compromised, pre-diabetic. However, it can be a good way to drop fa from the belly first, which is a mid-life complaint, and known to be the worst kind of fat for heart disease risk.

Go ahead and try something very easily followed such as South Beach. Go to the library, check out the books (don't even buy them!) and give it 3 weeks to see if you can stick to that one. It's on and off again as you need for the life maintaining part. If you are a TOTAL diet newbie, the best thing you can do, of course, is Weight Watchers, with all the people you can chat with at meetings, or online, or just follow AHA guidelines and food group sensibilities once you get good at tracking your total day's intake.

Went away for me after the first week or two. Been fine for last 5 months.

nope

>keto thread
>pic of cold cuts

You're doing it wrong.

Those all have sugar, cured or uncured.

I lost 20 lbs on keto over a 5 month period and find it easy to follow. You're allowed to eat a lot more things on keto than you can on other diets. Quick list of some of the things in my fridge now:
>spinach
>bacon
>ground meat
>eggs
>cheese
>eggplant
>cucumbers
>avocado
>shirataki noodles

Eating out is more simple than it seems, salad with a protein is usually just fine, as is ordering a burger with toppings and just taking the bun off. I find that tex-mex is usually keto friendly. Soft taco tortillas and hard taco shells are usually around 7 grams of carbs per piece, so you can eat up to 2 of those a day with no problem. Of course you can also just get a bowl instead and avoid the shell/tortilla altogether.

Fiber isn't a huge issue for me, I get enough of it from the vegetables I'm allowed to eat. My poop frequency actually increased. I poop 3-4x a week now opposed to 1x a week pre-keto (I have a terrible metabolism, I know.). I ate more fiber back then too. All the other carbs I used to eat weighed my poop down too much and just rendered the fiber ineffective.

Shirataki noodles are a decent enough pasta substitute that if you cook them CORRECTLY, you get all of the full flavor of any pasta dish and the carb-y feeling of being bursting full after without any actual carbs. They're 0 calories, and are just straight up insoluble fiber. It takes a while to learn how to cook them correctly, but definitely worth it if you find yourself missing pasta.

Memeshit endlessly shilled by people trying to sell books and bullshit supplements in a pyramid scheme like operation

It's a meme to get people on Veeky Forums to kill themselves. It IS extremely unhealthy. It's an attempt to lose weight fast, but there are way healthier ways to do that, and more effectively. A friend of mine swore by the ketogenic diet, was only moderately overweight, did the ketogenic diet, immediately after put on a ridiculous amount of weight and is now morbidly obese, with liver issues and his bones are literally disappearing from all the acid in the ketogenic diet, oh, and he has pre-diabetes now.

I lose a lb every other day on keto what the fuck are you doing where you're only losing 20 in five months

this is not a joke, Iweighed myself every day to make sure.

When I say literally disappearing - he can't walk for more than ten minutes because his ankles have fractured as a result and it's extremely painful for him. He also has gout to top it off.

Don't fall for the ketogenic diet meme. You will severely regret it.

do this and you win at life instantly

This. I tried the ketogenic diet and it made me the sickest I've ever been in my life. Just eat primarily fruits and veggies, limit calories, and you'll lose weight and feel healthier. Don't torture yourself through the ketogenic diet. It's not worth it at all. You'll lose the same amount of weight just eating minimum fat and more veggies and fruits. And you'll feel great instead of like dying.

I wasn't overweight to begin with. (Went from 24 BMI to 21.) Also I'm short and was already eating relatively healthy.

>just eating minimum fat

confirmed blue pilled
you need fats theyre essential and they dont make you fat

fat is the greatest food group.

limiting calories is also a meme

if you eat natural plant based foods and drink water you dont care about calories

i just ate a entire head of cauliflower it was a few pounds of food in a big bowl and it was like 100 calories

I said minimum fat for a reason. I mean olive oil and fats like those are high calorie and unnecessary. Avocados, nuts, seeds, those are great. But you don't need a huge amount of fat. Fat in large amounts does make you fat.

HCLF is the ultimate redpill

if you get a high quality olive oil or fresh olives i dont think its bad
olives are GREAT source of fat

its not UNNECESSARY , fats are essential and nobody can maintain a vegan diet without getting their fats in.

they will quit and give up because they will go loopy.

carbohydrates are a non essential food group

high carb is blue pilled

you want diabetes? your body doesnt like starches and sugars entering your blood stream it likes a low stable blood sugar

Vegan diets actually reverse diabetes lol. A healthy vegan diet is the most effective in treating and reversing diabetes... Do your research. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

And carbohydrates are very essential, especially for brain function. Which we can clearly see demonstrated here.

i am on a raw vegan HIGH FAT LOW CARB and i have diabetes because of my extremely high carb diet i was on last year

your body can convert protein into glucose if you ever need any

you want to eat as little carbohydrates as you possibly can in your life you do not need them. your body doesnt need them

blue pilled new vegans think high carb is the way to go , because they like the taste of starchy grains and bananas and rice and potatoes and thats all garbage

grains and potatoes should be 0% of your diet that shit hits your blood stream like no other

thats why you feel sedated after eating those things "comfort foods"

which is not actually good for you

>Thinking I'd believe for one second you were actually a vegan and not just trying to confuse people to the point they kill themselves.

no consider what i have said truly
your diet should be coconuts and avocados and olives and chia seeds and flax seeds and raw nuts and raw seeds and all sources of high fat plant products, and you eat that until you feel full and you have enough energy to go about your day on.

and then if you want to snack and make some real meals you eat raw vegetables of any kind and prepare them however you want, and then the fruits are the desert products not too much and not a staple

grains and animal products have no place in the human diet, those are the shit tier

>And carbohydrates are very essential, especially for brain function. Which we can clearly see demonstrated here.
>carbohydrates
>very essential
>the one macro nutrient which is not actually essential
>very essential

wew lad

Carbs do not inherently equal diabetes dummy. You'd have to be doing that Durianrider memeshit where you'd be eating actual table sugar with every meal

with the way the modern world works and the way people are eating YES carbs are basically toxic

you will run a constant blood sugar high every single day if youre eating bread and pasta and potatoes and rice

millions of people living in a pre-diabetic state with low energy that dont even know it

20 grams of sugar in a banana to a caveman who was just running around for 10 hours would be good for him

but an average person needing a fucking 20 gram shot of sugar just as a simple snack for no reason under no good circumstances? and then theres vegans USING 8 OF THEM IN THEIR SMOOTHIES?

You're making very stupid blanket statements

If you want to say white rice, white potatoes, added sugars, fruit juices, and non-whole grains in general are bad, then yes, there is basis for that, that's fine. Oats, sweet potatoes, whole fruits and vegetables are all extremely healthy. This is no different from me encompassing high fat low carb as shoveling margarine and olive oil down your throat

Our ancestor cavemen ate a lot of fruits and vegetables, a lot of carbohydrates

>8 of them in their smoothies
Durianrider shit. That's not even so much the issue as it is him adding pure raw sugar to them. And usually guzzling it down pretty fast. But then again he does an almost inhuman amount of exercise

Oats and sweet potatoes and "whole grains" are all just as bad for you

oats arent even digested , sweet potatoes have the highest glycemic index in the world of any food, and whole grains are just carbs and theyre still not healthy just because its brown rice instead of white rice

its not spinach its not brocolli lmao its rice

>This is no different from me encompassing high fat low carb as shoveling margarine and olive oil down your throat

that would be bad because margarine isnt a natural food first of all its poison

and theres nothing wrong with drinking fresh pressed extra virgin olive oil which is just the juice of the olive. but it wouldnt work and you would be deficient because you also need protein and fiber and minerals and other things that you cant get from olive oil which is just a bottle of fat

nobody can eat just fruits and vegetables and make it, you wont get enough fat and protein

you have to have the nuts and the seeds parts as well

i know this because ive been doing this for a while now

people who are on a animal product diet are ALWAYS EATING FAT AND PROTEIN ALL THE TIME, and when you go vegan and you eliminate that? it doesnt work... you have to replace it with these other plant sources

>oats arent even digested

Stopped reading right there. You're insane.

Guess what? When you make things up or see nonsense on somebodies youtube or blog, it doesn't make it real. Why on earth you choose to believe patently nonsensical assertions is beyond the capacity for a rational mind to comprehend.

>oats and sweet potatoes are all just as bad for you

You're a verifiable moron

>oats arent even digested

durrrrrr

>carbs arent healthy because GI which isn't even inherently the issue

You're a fucking moron

>fresh pressed extra virgin olive oil

Other than the artery clogging and endothelial cell crippling things, sure!

>you wont get enough fat and protein

Nuts and avocados have fat and/or protein. Your claim that you need as much as you do is almost unfounded

>i know this

You know shit.

no its just like any grain really, its bad for the digestive tract and has phytic acid

its a nutritionally dead food especially when you cook it and causes you to have to break it down and your body has to work really hard to do it

and has high carbohydrates and if youre not an olympic running you probably dont need a long acting carb in your body

GI is an issue
you should eat as low GI as you possibly can every single day and give your pancreas a break

you will feel better and you will have a better immune system and everything works better when you are not in a sugar coma with a high blood sugar

or you can be like me and lose your pancreas beta cells totally because you ate too many carbs

and now i have to take 5 shots a day

>Nuts and avocados have fat and/or protein

thats what ive been saying those are great sources of fat and protein that you need

straight olive oil isnt the best way to get ur fat but its definitely a start if ur transitioning and want to get off animal products

>artery clogging

good oils like extra virgin olive oil and virgin coconut oil have been proven to be beneficial to the heart

animal fat is what causes the clogging including the butter and the meat and the eggs

You still havent demonstrated a single thing to prove any of your claims. Like not only does the science not back you up to begin with. You've demonstrated nothing

>has phytic acid

Which has loads of anti-cancer properties, yes there is risk of it decreasing iron absorption but that's why you eat a variety of foods and get stuff like Vitamin C, garlic, and onions in your diet to increase iron absorption

i forget the exact explanation and the video i watched it was a scientific explanation of how oats interact in the gun but it should not be a staple food you should be eating

its dead food its cooked
most people cook their oats

if youre going to do oats , they only might be healthy if you soaked them and ate them raw

people eat oats because theyre like i said high carb comfort food and theyre cheap

theyre not scientifically a healthy food why wouldnt you eat spinach for breakfast why would you choose oatmeal

might as well eat white rice its the same thing

why not eat a vegetable for breakfast because people want to get high on cheap easy feel good foods

Unless you're eating an entire sweet potato pie to yourself you will be fine, they are complex carbs with plenty of fiber and have been shown to be fine. Moderation is key. Don't overeat them

>have been proven to be beneficial to the heart

The exact opposite.

>i forget any actual evidence relating to any single point im making

>its dead food its cooked

That's stupid raw food wordplay. It means absolutely nothing. You get more nutrition from lightly cooking many foods than raw

>theyre not a scientifically healthy food

According to who? You?

>might as well eat white rice its the same thing

No it isn't you idiot

you will be fine eating a chocolate cake as a healthy person every once in a while it doesnt make it a smart thing to do

foods contain enzymes that break down foods

when you cook things you kill the enzymes and now you got a bunch of matter in ur body thats gonna get stuck and undigested and poke holes in ur gut and then u get infected by a virus

>sweet potatoes are chocolate cakes

Now you're just being intentionally obtuse because you're running out of invalid typified diarrhea to spew out

>when you cook things you kill the enzymes

More pseudoscience

Thanks for playing

If you gently cook food it breaks it down in a way your body is unable to do, and you actually get more nutrients.

Yes raw food contains more nutrients, but your body is able to absorb less of it overall.

m8 cook food nutrients are altered and theyre not even interactive

all dietary advice is pseudoscience people all believe their own thing when it comes to dieting deal with it

due to the fact that its scientifically proven that certain nutrients and antioxidants are destroyed when heat is applied, i see no reason why i should ever cook anything unless i wanted to feel good and eat a baked potato and sit on the couch and basque in a sugar coma and be killing myself

>when heat is applied

Too much heat, aka frying it up or burning the ever loving shit out of it. Even then it's not the worst thing in the world

>all dietary is advice is pseudoscience

So you admit what you're saying is completely unverified and fraudulent. Thanks

>i see no reason why i should ever cook anything

Because in many cases, cooking stuff (lightly) like broccoli increases the bio-availability of the nutrients and makes it easier to digest.

no steaming vegetables is the beginner stage when youre transitioning to raw foods

people want their food hot and they want it soft. theres nothing beneficial about killing your nutrients and enzymes with heat and decay. its all about this bizarre human feel good therapy on your food when you actually step back and look at what youre doing

you want as fresh as possible picked from the field and eaten raw

all the time just like all the animals in nature

This is the crazy people thread! Why do I like reading these so much?

Every single one of your claims are bizarre unscientific based on "feel good" aspirations

You are ENHANCING nutritional content and not killing enzymes when you lightly cook many foods.

>just like all the animals in nature

Go ahead and graze like a cow, do you, don't be a moron and claim this is the only true way to do it when it clearly isn't

lightly cooking things is called a dehydrator under 120 degrees and even that isnt recommended to do too often in the raw foods community

if you admit the scientific fact that lightly cooking is healthier then why not all the way raw?

it has to do with the cooked foods giving you a better taste and texture and heat and more palletable

but if you can overcome all that then you would eat raw all the time

theres also little micro-organisms that live on every raw food that you get a little bit of probiotic each time you eat that are not present in cooked foods

>even that isnt recommended to do too often in the raw foods community

Nobody gives a fuck what you moronic squirrels think.

>then why not all the way raw

Do you know how to read, bird brains?

>theres also little micro-organisms that live on every raw food

Utterly false

Is the Earth Flat too?

>Is the Earth Flat too?

yes actually
antarctica is off limits and it encompasses the earth and nobody has been to the outer rim yet

...

>theres also little micro-organisms that live on every raw food
>Utterly false
You think foods aren't covered in microorganisms?

Aw, dang. Some of the crazyposts got snipped. That shit was funny. Well played, moderator, you glorious censoring bastard!

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My parents are distributors for a company that sells some kind of nutritional powder that apparently induces ketosis without any kind of dietary change. Apparently you can even do a urine test to verify that you're in ketosis and everything.

Maybe look into something like that? I've heard that ketosis diets are really intense and strict.

Aaaayyyyy someone else took metabolic biochem too

I'm not shilling for keto here, it's been about 2 years since I did it, I just want to know what's wrong with it. When I had the willpower to do it, I was ALWAYS more alert, I felt like I had had triple the sleep, and I'm generally a pretty gloomy sleepy guy. I also had way more energy and strength to do things throughout the day, and really kicked ass in my fitness classes. I lost weight very quickly with minimal gains, became more fit than I have ever been in the rest of my life within 6 months. As soon as I started eating carbs again I felt a drop in everything.

literal meme diet

Am I kawaii user-san?

You still can't spell "than"

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The keto diet is a reboot of the Atkins diet of the 90s. They are both desperate attempts by the animal food products industries to stay relevant as more and more people look towards the science and find that animal products are terrible for your health whereas fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans are excellent for your health.
The keto cult is built on an empire of lies, starting with the notion that Americans eat a lot of carbohydrates. Of course even a cursory glance at the evidence will reveal that Americans have one of the lowest carb intakes in the world. Keto is a kind of post-ironic response to 2 decades of nutritional ignorance and mass obesity where people have somehow convinced themselves that the unhealthy part about a bacon double cheeseburger is the bread.

>They are both desperate attempts by the animal food products industries to stay relevant as more and more people look towards the science and find that animal products are terrible for your health whereas fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans are excellent for your health.
/paranoia
/conspiracy theorist
>empire of lies
woah, can't you make your point without sounding like a total nutjob? The "science" is the ketosis itself, and a workaround to careful calorie counting, and nothing more than that. There was no egg council or pork council lobbyists passing money to Dr. Atkins under the table. Not even the opposing thinkers on man-created global warning are in cahoots. Scientists don't work like that. They list sources, and each individual person can use their own critical thinking skills to tear apart or simply look on with skepticism, and they attack the scientific process, and whether it is repeatably true, in order to attack the scientist.

The issue with vegans who talk about their choices is poor scientific understandings. Using absolute words like "terrible" and "excellent" to sum up the food group choices is asinine.

Is ketosis itself dangerous/damaging, or is it just ketoacidosis that one must be concerned about?

Hes not writing a scientific paper, he's posting on an atlantean flood warning board and raises a valid point. Plenty of nutritional information or food science is completely unusable considering how deeply embedded corporations are in the field. Id like to see more stable analysis but a cursory glance at the data doesnt seem to suggest that fatter countries eat more carbs.

I personally did keto for about 18 months, I did an entire years with probably only 1-2 cheat days. Went from obese to bordering underweight (over 110lbs lost), over a year ago I started eating normal again and gained maybe 10lbs back within the first months until it stabilized. My blood work looks excellent, my previous heightened liver stats all went back to normal and needless to say physical health improved.

I can't tell you if it all in the diet but I can promise you that within the first month your entire shopping routine will change drastically, it was like there was no candy or microwave food aisle.

Well this is a lie if I've ever seen one. Many members of my family have tried a ketogenic for long periods of time and they only felt extremely lethargic and angry all the time. And aside from temporary weight loss they suffered a long list of health problems because of it, some of which required hospitalization.

Stop trying to get people on Veeky Forums to kill themselves.

This.

So I started keto a few days ago, supplemented weights daily and aerobics every off day, and what I take away from this threads is people who have never done keto say its awful, while the people that actually did it love it, and say it works.

Does that sum it up?

Probably although I can't confirm the whole "energized" effect that people mention pretty often.

Also it is not a 0carb diet, most people stay in ketosis if they eat less than 30-50g per day; 100g fresh strawberries have 6g carbs, watermelon like 8g even a roll or a piece of cake is okay once in a while.
Sweets and soda are the only things you should put permanently off.

>140 POUNDS

FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN. THATS GOD DAMN RIDICULOUS.S

Yes. Seems like that's about it.

I'm one of the few people I know irl who has done it. I started out with a BMI of 25.5 with high cholesterol, high blood pressure, elevated heart rate and A1c. I was tired often. Now all my stats are normal to better than average. I am 5'11", 185 lbs, 10% BF. I nearly have the strength and endurance of a professional athlete (I work out with 50 lb dumbbells and jog 5 miles easily every other day), but I am just a regular person. In other words: a complete physical reversal. When friends and family comment on how healthy I look they ask what I did. That's when they become skeptical and bring up all the second and third-hand horror stories and misconceptions about the diet and how unsound it is medically, though after a while they stop doubting me. A lot of people think it's a meat-heavy diet. It isn't. Essentially, I don't buy anything in the middle aisles of the grocery store. I'm pretty certain that similar results could be had by everyone if they never ate any overly processed prepackaged foodstuffs (refined sugars and carbohydrates, trans-fat laced vegetable fats), and focused on eating more fresh fruits and vegetables. It works, but you have to do it right. There's no cheating or fad diet mind tricks. You just don't eat fucking junk food, adjust the macros correctly, and don't eat more calories than you need. Totally sounds like I'm shilling so I don't really talk about it much. I don't care, don't try it. They can do their thing and I'll do mine. Fuck them. Good luck with your new lifestyle.

Ah, shit. I take it back. I do venture into the middle aisles of the grocery store for a few things like coffee, extra virgin olive oil and spices.

He's 5'6" you fucking retard

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TRYING TO DEFEND HIS BULLSHIT WEIGHT? HOW MANY COCKS DO YOU TAKE ON A DAILY BASIS?

No, because I've done keto and felt like I was dying... And know many people who have done it even longer who now are literally dying.

Awesome. Thanks mate, I aim to live your life style. I appreciate that story and support!

Oh, and I'm actually kind of excited about this health metric. I can currently do 5 consecutive, good-form pull ups, whereas 1 year ago I could not do even one. Not bad for a 185 lbs man who has never used steroids. Thanks keto.

I am 5'11 135lbs :-)

HOLY HELL. HOW ARE YOU STILL ALIVE? DO YOU GET LAID REGULARLY? I MUST KNOW MORE SKELETON

It is not even underweight, what is wrong with you?

>A ketogenic diet is a diet that lacks any kind of carbohidrate
>your body needs sugar to live
Stopped reading there.

>i work out with 50lb dumbells
>strength
Tip jij m8

keto is great for PCOS. i had amenorrhea and within a month of ketosis my cycle came back. it also lowered my blood sugar a lot.

I don't use steroids, dingleberry. This is Veeky Forums not Veeky Forums. Besides the fact that curling 50lb dumbbells as a training weight is respectable for a regular man (which I am), the point was to illustrate a general healthiness possible with this kind of diet. I appreciate that it is not the only diet that can lead to health, strength and longevity, but it works for me. People can do whatever the hell they want.

>I jog five miles everyday
you are going to get heart failure even if your bad cholesteral is low as fuck.

Every other day. I don't see how moderate aerobic exercise for less than two hours every other day is a risk for heart failure in any way. Nice troll, goober.

Go on Veeky Forums.

Read sticky.

Ignore barely contained homolust.

Ignore homoerotic shitposting about Scoob, rippletits and zyzz (then shitpost later).

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Acquire gains and health.

Ketoacidosis is the complete starvation response. Literally the "I haven't eaten in weeks" response that your body does to give you slightly more energy to find real food.

Ketosis is a body response that's similar but not caused by starvation mode. Ketosis is also longer lasting and more stable but as mentioned can have health concerns the longer you're on it.

You do realize that humans are biologically engineered to be GOD TIER in two things right?

Running and throwing.

No animal comes close to endurance running like we do and you think only 5 miles every other day is a lot?

Your ancestors laugh at you.

It take extra effort to do this shit america where almost everything is contaminated with corn syrup.

I know you are supposed to be eating healthy fat but I am too lazy and just eat hot links and mayo. Probably get cancer anyway but at least I am not hungry all the time.

The only fad diet I don't hate is the caveman one. Whatever it was called. My only problem with it, is that it is disingenuous to claim the human body hasn't changed in 10 thousand years. We know it has. It is a good idea to not eat too much refined sugar and manufactured food.

hores

>No animal comes close to endurance running like we do
Retard.