So I see Substratum being shilled here quite often but I also see Skycoin being shilled here often. They both want to achieve a decentralised internet, yet I see that skycoin receives far more criticism on this and substratum far less. I guess most people are in SUB because its more known in the crypto community and Skycoin is somewhat more obscure.
What is the difference between these two? And why would you invest in one over the other?
Substratum is shit compared to Skycoin but the fud campaign against sky is so much more prominent. Basically Skycoin has Skynet which is its own internet, entirely seperate from current ISPs. The problem with Substratum is that its just an overlay of current internet, which makes no fucking sense cause we already have Tor. So basically Substratum can be shut off if ISPs shut down your node that is running over their internet service.
T. Sky bagholder
Grayson Collins
I also heard from some people that with Substratum you can setup nodes, the more people that use your node the more SUB tokens you get paid, but someone mentioned that you could just make a botnet to spam your nodes and earn a lot of Substratum? But shouldn't those bots then be the ones paying you or do you get them from somewhere else? If the bots you setup aren't paying you and the tokens come from somehwere else than thats kinda fucked up anyone could just spam their own node and dump tokens on the market.
Kevin Barnes
SUB holders, what is your opinion? Why are you in SUB and not Skycoin? I'm curious in why some people invest in Sky and others in SUB, love to hear opinions from the ''other side''
Adrian Richardson
OP not graphs on the left are decentralized. Decentralized means that you can remove any node without partitioning the system. Distributed systems however can be both Centralized or decentralized as distributed in CS only means running on several computers without common memory, clock and communication by message passing
Noah Carter
>Skynet he never watched terminator it did not work out so good for poor John Conner
Connor Williams
>Decentralised internet But it's already decentralized.
Jacob Wood
only the ignorant fall for the sub scam
Dominic Murphy
i sold my substratum when i found out 'they' can censor the subnet (yes that is what i am calling it). does skycoin have the ability to censor? if they do is it by a network vote? defo not interested in a pedo network either....
Ryder Campbell
>They both want to achieve a decentralised internet WHAT DOES THAT FUCKING MEANS
The internet is as decentralized as it gets. It's pretty cheap to run your own website that no one can shut down.
Carter Edwards
Skycoin wants uncensored internet, I don't think they can censor based on consensus
Grayson Smith
A decentralised internet means independence from ISP(Internet Service providers) In the USA this is a big problem as they charge ridiculous amounts to the point where lots of peopel can't afford internet.
Elijah Harris
so how do they intend on stopping kiddy porn? if you can answer me that i will read the white paper and invest
Jeremiah Wilson
dude idc if you invest or read the whitepaper so for that reason I'm not going to answer. If you think i'm desperate for people to buy in so the price rises, i'm not. I'm just curious what the opposing parties think between SUB and SKY.
Hunter Hughes
>Nobody can shut down
wew. ask the Daily Stormer if that's true.
Isaac Jenkins
Sounds very interesting, but I don't think it's possible without hardware solutions (i.e. satellite internet)
Adam Thomas
So, if it's all about white supremacist & child pornography websites, I don't think it's really a mass problem
Ian Gonzalez
I think Skycoin uses physical infrastructure to realise their goals and also talks about launching a sattelite, but i'm not here to advocate SKY I want to hear what substratum token holders have to say for their project versus Skycoin and Skycoin holders versus substratum holders.
Caleb Harris
Independent nodes can blacklist other nodes or clusters from routing through their nodes.
Jayden Morris
cool thx for the answer user!
Christian Morales
IMO most user have no idea whats the difference between the 2 other then the huge price difference $11 Sky and $0.58 sub
Cooper Smith
What bothers me is that the idea of a blockchain-based internet is a bit off.. I mean, when you store a chain of financial transations, that is one thing, but when you store the whole chain of internet content, why would that be necessary at all?
Brayden Young
if sunstratum is decetralized and doesn't cencor then why would they cencor child porn or illigeal shit? Its supposed to be free and not be controlled
Nathan Flores
idk, you can achieve decentralisation trough blockchain though?
Parker Harris
Maybe you can in theory, but to use an immutable blockchain for non-critical data (i.e. not financial operations and smart contracts, but rather regular content) is very redundant, non-practical and even distopian. I mean, why would you hoard all the deleted content? It makes sense with electronic money. It doesn't make sense with content.
Keep in mind that the current internet model is already extremely decentralized, it's just the ISPs the are the bottleneck.