ask a guy who works at a frozen vegetable/fruit processing/packaging plant anything.
we primarily do organic vegetables and fruit but sometimes do conventional crops.
ask anything, but I will not reveal company name or location.
>pretty decent job, I get all the frozen veg I want for free
Aaron Walker
why are they always cut so small, thats the main reason i wont buy them, i'm not a child, give me adult sized veggies
Asher Martin
Any bodily fluids from you guys make its way into finished product?
Samuel Green
if the pieces of cut vegetables are too big, it will clog the packaging machine. also just eat more pieces lol who cares if it's not one big piece?
we follow proper food handling procedures so no. however with organic vegetables there is a higher chance for thistles being in your bag of peas for instance, or nightshade berries in your soybeans. since you aren't allowed to use weed killing chemicals on organic fields. we inspect the vegetables after freezing and pick the bad stuff out the best we can, but it's possible a few thistles or nightshade get through. so always inspect your veg before you put the water in the pot to cook them. comes with the organic territory.
Liam Allen
Why do the bags say not to cook it in the microwave? I've done that all my life, just punch some holes on the bag and nuke it for 6 minutes, always came out great, so I'm not sure what's the problem
Justin Jenkins
just to add to that, all the product goes through metal detectors 3 times, once when being processed and frozen, once while being inspected, and a final time as it is being bagged. the metal detectors very very rarely go off. so don't worry about biting into a nail or something.
Leo James
it comes out better on the stove
also microwaving plastic bags is bad
Camden Anderson
tripcoding up for clarity.
thanks for the questions guys, I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested
Jaxson Murphy
I like frozen veggies. Every week when I go to the grocery store I buy a 2kg bag of the same shit that OP has in his pic. I use them for everything, sometimes I eat them as a side dish with a steak, or I toss a few handfuls into a stew or curry. The only other vegetables I buy are potatoes and carrots (I slice the carrots up and snack on them at work)
Jaxon Lee
so any problem with rats lately?
Jacob Allen
the pest control guy comes every Monday to check the traps set up all over the facility, and as far as I know he hasn't caught anything yet.
Sebastian Lewis
yeah frozen veg is bretty gud
it's so nice that now that I have this job, when I go grocery shopping, I cam just walk right past the vegetables because I have more than I can eat for free already. kinda getting sick of veg to be honest. but can't argue with free food. I mix em with rice, throw em in casseroles, soup, whatever.
for family christmas I'm going to bring a huge cooler full of veg and let the senpai pick out whatever they want because my freezer is running out of space haha
Henry Gray
how do you cook this shit so it doesnt become a soggy mess on the stove?
Logan Phillips
>the senpai
lel
I meant the f a m
>pls notice my vegetables senpai
Dominic Morgan
Why isn't there frozen mirepoix?
Why no frozen trinity?
Liam Brooks
follow the directions on the package. don't overcook them. once the water is boiling they are probably already done, depending on what vegetable of course. but for most veg it doesn't take long
Elijah Myers
there probably is but we don't do mirepoix here.
I agree that would be a good idea, I feel like some company somewhere has probably already thought of that.
Samuel Jones
why do the green beans taste like fish
Andrew Clark
Both of these exist at Kroger. I buy them all the time. Great way to get a gumbo or red beans started.
Cameron Wood
Maybe i am idiot but it seems like you only get veg medleys, green beans, peas, spinach, corn, and maybe weird shit like okra, but that's about all my grocery store normally carries in terms of veggie. Never stuff like asparagus or sprouts or beets or anything like that, why?
Christian Davis
if the directions say preboil water and then add veg reduce heat and cook for X minutes then drain do that. directions are there for a reason.
>although I usually just throw the veg in a pot of water put the burner on max heat and check a pea or whatever in 5 minutes and see if it's done, works fine for me
Asher Allen
are your vegetables sold at Costco?
what is your favorite type of frozen vegetable?
How are frozen peppers de-seeded?
Leo Johnson
Yeah, I'm trying to cut down on my rice consumption because beer gut, but a handful of frozen veg tossed into some rice is a great side with any meal.
Isaac Bailey
well we do a lot of stuff
peas, shelled edamame (soybeans), unshelled edamame, carrots (diced, sliced) potatoes (cubes, fries, shredded), corn, green beans (cut, whole), broccoli, mixed veg (peas corn carrrots green beans), spinach (fuck spinach it makes a huge mess), beets, butternut squash, onions, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, cranberries, vegetable soup mix, berry mix, etc.
Jose Ward
Can you touch your bellybutton with the tip of your erect penis while standing up straight?
Jason Ward
try a different brand
Gavin Fisher
Why are the only frozen vegetables worth buying is Peas?
Everything else is inferior to the fresher version
Adrian Taylor
tell me about factory cleanliness procedures used.
no bullshitting. Ive worked in several food factories
Jordan Russell
i pretty much agree frozen tastes like rotten
frozen spinach is throw up tier especially
but fresh is god tier
Joshua Wood
I don't know because I don't shop at Costco
peas
we bag peppers but we don't process them. we buy them from some other company precut and prefrozen and just package them. but most of our stuff we grow and process ourselves. so I don't know how they get the seeds out of peppers, but they do somehow. magic?
Jayden Adams
I bet the frozen pepper company is an awesome place to work.
Adam Perez
does your company produce any generic store branded products, or is everything made there done under your company's own label?
Cooper Hill
well here's what I do when I get to work
>put on labcoat, hardhat, earplugs (machines are loud as fuck) hairnet, beardnet if I have any facial hair that day, plastic booties over my shoes, walk into room, wash hands, put on plastic gloves, walk through a shoe bath mat
also
>UVA lamps over the processing equipment to kill microorganisms
>different color coded shovels/brushes/etc for different things, raw product, frozen product, trash, etc. al has a different color
>equipment is tested for cleanliness and allergens after we clean it
very very clean and we get very good scores on our random food safety audits by the government
Christopher Brown
we do things for other companies but I can't name any names I hope you understand
Christopher Baker
of course. I was just more curious if the store brands got lower quality vegetables.
Ian Phillips
nope we use the same veg for everything we package
the name on the bag is just marketing bullshit haha
Brayden Lopez
frozen vegetables are actually fresher than the fresh vegetables on the shelf. they're frozen moments after being harvested at the peak of ripeness, where your 'fresh' vegetables have to be transported days and then sit in a box for days.
Ethan Cox
frozen peas are great, frozen corn nibbies are great, frozen spinach v. convenient, frozen water chestnuts nice for lazy white man stirffies, frozen potato products quite good
frozen carrots and frozen brocc are trash
Cooper Turner
>adult >uses terms like veggies
Oliver Murphy
i understand this but i still think fresh tastes better for 90% of things
the freezing part makes them all wet and soggy and they lose flavor
and taste disgusting
im sorry but its true even though frozen might be but on ice quicker
Christian Jones
The only reason to ever buy fresh over frozen spinach is if you are eating it raw. Otherwise it still becomes the same wrinkly mess when you cook it.
Connor Anderson
nope even cooked spinach comes out with better texture and flavor when its fresh
something about freezing it im telling you makes it horrendous
Leo Perry
this.
we do get some things from other companies but most of our stuff is grown locally, harvested, and then processed and frozen not even 2 hours after being harvested
it may sit in a freezer for awhile until we have time to bag it but it's as fresh as possible for frozen veg
Kevin Collins
ain't nobody got time to type out "vegetable" repeatedly
Carson Allen
and it ruins the texture and quality you forgot to tell them
froz veg taste like piss
except for like peas and a few others i would buy frozen like the other guy
Anthony Moore
go buy fresh veg then I don't care
Isaac Ross
I guess you're right, if you can't cook or taste shit there's no difference.
Benjamin Mitchell
o ok ur pretty humble about it
w.e this thread kinda boring i dont really have any questions lol
Bentley Gutierrez
actually i do have a question how thoroughly do you wash the vegetables if at all?
because i always wondered if i should be washing my frozen vegetables
Joseph Sullivan
then go start a thread about how frozen veg are piss except for peas and fresh veg master race etc. I'm sure you will get (You)s.
what are you even doing here unless you have come to agree with my love of peas
Ian Thompson
washing is unnecessary for frozen veg. if makes you feel better to wash them, go for it. but we already washed it like 5 times at the factory.
the only advice I have is inspect your food before cooking. but don't be too paranoid, we aren't trying to poison you, because that would be wrong and more importantly the government would ahut us the fuck down. as with anything, our process is very good but not perfect. if you see a brown pea throw it out. no reason to throw the whole bag out though. I promise it will be ok
Brayden Gray
Are you aware, and can explain at all,what happens to the cellular structure of vegetables when they're frozen as compared to when they're fresh?
Parker Jenkins
i was only worried about pesticides
Levi Diaz
There literally isn't, don't try to pull that juvenile "lol u cnt cuk" shit on me, you're the one spending $20 on fresh produce that you can get for $3 if you bought it frozen
Zachary Wood
its really not that much more expensive depending on where you shop
youre exaggerating tremendously
Jayden Price
I wish I could answer that but I am but a humble blue collar working man and not a food scientist.
and I'm not trying to say frozen or fresh vegetables are better or worse than the other. I am not shilling for the frozen food industry. this is just a job for me, and I thought Veeky Forums might be interested. fresh would be ideal, like stuff from your own garden. but frozen are very convenient and stay good longer. there is trade offs between each.
Logan Wilson
Spinach cooks down considerably, so to get the amount that frozen bag yields, you would have to spend close to $20.
Dominic Ross
if it says USDA Organic on the package, there were no pesticides used. pesticides are very strictly not allowed in organic food production.
Easton Cook
OP is correct. I actually work a full time job myself and don't know if I am actually going to have time to cook even on the weekends because things are constantly coming up. More produce has spoiled in my fridge than gone to use. The only fresh produce I buy are onions and potatoes because they stay good longer.
Alexander Cruz
actually if you get 8 oz frozen spinach and you buy 8 oz fresh spinach it weighs the EXACT SAME THING and you get the same amount of spinach for like 1$ more for the fresh
you idiot
in fact you might get less with the frozen because the ice crystals
Oliver Sanchez
>because of ice crystals You realize it's weighed before it's frozen, right? Idiot
Dylan Baker
pls stop arguing about spinach guys
in fact stop buying spinach altogether because it is a shit tier vegetable in my opinion and also frozen spinach is a pain in the ass to make it makes a huge mess and if you stop buying it I won't have to clean it up at work lol
Bentley Myers
>not liking spinach
OP is a faggot
Alexander Cruz
>it is a shit tier vegetable cuz you eat it frozen
Christian Ward
fuck off Popeye I hate you you make my job hell
Bentley Brooks
I'll fuck you right in the stink Olive Oyl
Josiah Thomas
Whats the cheapest easiest meal you can make with frozen veggies and some kind of protein that can be frozen in batches for meals? Preferably something that isnt just veggies + protein cooked.
Ayden Price
go eat your canned spinach and stop making me clean up wet dethawed frozen spinach dust that gets everywhere
Blake Moore
>what's the cheapest meal with veggies and protein that isn't veggies and protein
Looks like we found the retard
Aiden Ward
Anyone that would eat frozen spinach can only be described as "amerifat." There are no other people on earth that would intentionally do that unless faced with starvation.
Jace Reed
casserole my man google the recipies and find one you like
cook a big casserole on the weekend and have leftovers to last you the whole week
Tyler Cox
then go eat your fresh spinach, foreign Popeye
Ryan Cooper
>reading comprehension It means a recipe that isnt just 'cook the veggies, cook the meat. Youre done!'
Parker Nguyen
I would just like to reiterate that spinach eating Popeye motherfuckers can go to hell and I hate you
Logan Gray
you just had to pick the most pain in the ass to make vegetable to like, didn't you?
if you had to freeze the spinach yourself you would see how it is not worth the effort.
you don't even know. the mess. the fucking mess. please if you must eat spinach get fresh or canned. have pity on a poor user.
pparently most frozen veg companies don't even deal with spinach because it's such a pain in the ass. well my boss saw an untapped Popeye market because of that and made us freeze spinach. damn you Popeye
Hudson Reyes
spinach aside thank you guys for the questions and I hope you learned something interesting if you have any more questions I will be monitoring this thread all night so ask away.
>I will not be replying to any more Popeye posts however
Isaiah Anderson
So IQF? If so, fluidized bed? What fluid do you use to freeze?
Josiah Miller
Boy that spinach guy sure triggered you hard
Caleb Nelson
yep IQF organic.
and as far as the freezing process goes, I don't do the maintenance on the machines but all I know is the veg is flash frozen and there is a big ammonia tank hooked up to the freezer that if it explodes we will all be kill.
James Allen
RE: Frozen vegetable texture:
Water expands upon freezing The plant cells of vegetables are full of water As the vegetables are frozen, the water inside the plant cells expands as a result Not only this, but as you can see by looking at ice crystals under a microscope, the ice crystals form sharp piercing spear like structures that puncture the plant's cell walls upon formation Thus, when the vegetable is thawed from a frozen state, the plant cells leak their water out into the plant's intercellular matrix through the punctured cell walls
This accounts for the mushiness and texture differences between frozen and fresh veggies Still, however, frozen veggies are picked at peak ripeness and are therefore more dense in phytonutrients and are the better choice overall
William Johnson
you'd understand if you had to clean up frozen spinach
Caleb Thompson
this guu sounds legit.
as I said, I'm no food scientist or expert on this stuff but I thought Veeky Forums might be interested in the knowledge I do have on frozen veg that most people don't
James Smith
just added frozen peas to some bland rice pilaf and boy am i glad i did that
unlock the hidden treasure that is FROZEN
Jaxson Nguyen
peas are the patrician vegetable my friend
Matthew Ward
I thought boiling vegetables released all of the phytonutrients into the water which is often dumped out or wasted
Jaxon Morales
true story bro also, nice trips
Phytochemical density is important when choosing veggies Organic>frozen organic>frozen conventional>conventional>canned organic>canned conventional
Landon Diaz
True, when boiling vegetables to death you are essentially throwing the baby out with the bath water.
That's why blanching and shock cooling (possibly followed by roasting) is a thing
William Baker
What if you boil the veggies and use a stick blender to make it all into a soup? You'd get all the nutrients then right?
Isaac Martin
I would add that frozen veg gives you the opportunity to taste vegetables and fruit that may not grow well in your area/are out of season in your area
fresh is fresh and obviously ideal but if you can't get fresh, frozen is not a terrible alternative.
Bentley Parker
hey man you can kinkshame me to hell & back, i dont care. the peas are good in the pilaf.
Lincoln Morris
Yes, not including enzymes lost due to heating of course. You should always consume a plethora of raw veggies as well as cooked veggies. Even some antioxidant compounds are lost in the cooking process
Certainly though, vegetable soups are a great way to go in terms of not throwing out valuable phytonutrients such as minerals and other heat resistant compounds Compound blenders and chicken stock are your friends in this regard
Jacob Parker
I think as long as you don't overcook, frozen veg gives you damn near the same nutrients as fresh. any difference is tiny and insignificant.
I mean, vege is vege. fresh, frozen, or canned. better than eating a bag of chips for dinner or something.
Joseph White
I am not sure what kinkshame means sir
did I miss out on a meme?
Christian Brooks
I don't know what I was thinking when I typed "compound blender" I meant immersion blender
Michael Perez
where do the managefags sit their soft fat asses in the factory and how often do you interact
also white/black/spanic breakout of line workers
benefits?
Jaxson Sanchez
I rarely see the company president. he's usually in his office. he's not a bad guy though. but my direct supervisor is a total bro. one of the nicest guys I've ever met. we both play music and we have jam sessions after work sometimes.
currently all white, I think they used to hire Mexicans, possibly illegal, for summer processing back before I started working here. but I know the big boss likes Trump so I doubt that will be happening anymore.
and we have paid time off and pretty good health insurance. not a bad place to work.
Ryder Moore
>eating any vegetables is a bad thing
Only something I would read on an anonymous ethiopian crocheting forum
Austin Garcia
Oregon neonazi detected. if not Oregon you are in Idaho
Ryan Watson
wrong
Caleb Ramirez
also stop trying to guess where I am. told you in the original post. you will never find me. I will never tell you. I know your tactics Veeky Forums. and believe it or not I am not a nazi, neo or otherwise. that's the last I will say on this subject.