I couldn't make it after 1:23. This is even more embarrassing than Hopsin

tbf trying to make a black man think is like making a fish climb a tree.

>first 2 words are "Albert Einstein"
>isn't about the effectiveness of school
>is about how school is 2 hard :(
>phones changed from 150 years ago to now , cars changed from 150 years ago to now, so why hasn't school changed???????? (slaves were also freed 153 years ago, but why aren't you complaining that hasn't changed?)

I couldn't watch any further, but this is just bait.

thats a big maze
for you

>Show fine products of school system
>School system is shit and needs to be changed

>using "sasuga" like it disproves what he's saying
typical pseudointellectual /pol/fag

isn't that the "TECHNOLOGY IS EVIL *uploaded via Iphone 6*" guy ?

What the one where he's in court is hilarious when the whole jury dabs

Thats the funny thing I noticed. The school system is shit but it doesn't come up with any alternative replacement. Don't even know what the hell it's trying to sell in the end.

"Sure math is important ! But no more than art or dance !"
Is this the dumbest sentence ever formulated ? I love art, visual arts and music are two of my biggest passions, but damn saying it's as important as math is retarded.

And let's not even talk about dance.

uhh those are very important don't trivialize shit just because you don't come off as autistic for being good at it

Actually says Dance is as important as Math.
Liberals actually believe this!!!!
Please dance yourself a fusion power plant!

Liberals are mad at student loans because no one want to pay a Woman's studies major as much as an Engineer.

Standardized education WORKS if the children have a father and a mother who work with them each night and supply a safe stable home environment.

Instead of blaming the school, blame the parents for not giving the child a home environment that supports educations.

Art has had some importance as catalyst for social movements, but how is it as important as the discipline that gave us medicine, computers and energy ?

How to improve the public school system

>Vast majority of teachers and management are fired (the money is moved to making college free)
>Students learn through computerized teachers
>Computerized "Aristotle" that teaches people everything, using sites like Khan Academy for example
>A matching system is used that pairs students within a classroom that would best help each other. They are assigned an assignment of some sort that teaches teamwork and cooperation while also strengthening the core skills involved.

Unlike teachers, a computer works perfectly and is capable of learning to improve. A computer will fit the sensibilities of its student, and will learn how to teach them in the best way possible. As close as possible to an Aristotle and Socrates relationship.
Since everyone is learning at maximum efficiency and effectiveness, everyone will master the core curriculum even faster.
This means high school graduation age can be reduced significantly, down to 15 or 16.
College becomes cheap to free, and the entire country becomes educated as FUCK.
No more retards becoming teachers and torturing every student that has to take the misfortune of being taught by them.

Humanity is saved

Prove me wrong

You can save lives with math, you can't do that with art.

I said maths were more important than art, not the other way around

wrong post, meant for

Veeky Forums, if you were to design a public education system (say, for the time students are in school between the ages of 5 and 17 inclusive), how would you do it and what would be the curriculum?

Give them all computers to browse Veeky Forums all day. Not enough underaged here.

youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-M

>a computer works perfectly

You assume students WANT to learn. The first generation right off the boat WILL want to learn and will study all day.

The third generation inner city welfare child, just wants to get high and fuck. All the free high quality education in the world will NOT make a difference because the child does not care to be educated. Let the child "lean at his own pace" and the kid will use the computer to look at porn and play music videos.

We do NOT need more athletes, or musicians, or actors, or artists, or dancers, we do need more mathematicians, engineers, chemist and physicists .

Liberals ares are fine, BUT only for the extremely gifted in that field. There are WAY too many musicians, when only a few are really any good. We 100% do NOT need more actors!!!

>You assume students WANT to learn
The only reason someone wouldn't want to learn is because the person teaching them is a retard.
Computers aren't retards. I said it clearly:
Computers will fit the sensibilities of the student.

>The only reason someone wouldn't want to learn is because the person teaching them is a retard.

Then every public library in the inner cities should be filled with eager young kids studying the vast store of knowledge contained in them.

NOPE... you can bring a horse to water but you can NOT make it drink. Many Inner city youth actually are anti-intellectual and will REFUSE to learn anything that they can not IMMEDIATELY see as use for.

uhh fights depression, stagnation, builds imagination etc...which BEGETS development in those things

yeah well, unless you live right next to an art gallery and are buddy with your 5 favorites bands you wouldn't have nearly as much access to art as you do now if computers didn't exist, which were made possible by math and its applications.
Looks like autistic mathematicians win again.

>The point of high school is to get students ready for college

>this is what people actually believe

top kek son. High School is a glorified day care facility for teenagers. college level material isn't hard until you get into junior year and any mildly intelligent kid can/should be doing community college by age 15.

high school is literally wasting 2-3 years of your academic life on bullshit. the only relevant counter argument to this is the socialization you get in HS.

yeah youre right

My school in germany tried to solve this problem with a "new" learning system called "SKIL" but they fucked it up badly.

Yeah sounds great except you forget the entire purpose of a teacher which is to ask questions to which generally cannot be found out otherwise from somethibg you didn't understand fully to adifferent application of a system or some new way to think about it. At best you might get some low tier people to answer the question days latter on the internet which never works as well as talking with someone face to face. Also what about labs for classes like biology and chemistry?

Ask anyone who has taken an online class, you never learn nearly as much as in person.

>Yeah sounds great except you forget the entire purpose of a teacher which is to ask questions to which generally cannot be found out otherwise
I honestly feel like a majority of teachers forget this important point as well. Many of them are similar to police officers, they have some authority so they abuse the shit out of it and forget what their real job is: to help the students.

>Ask anyone who has taken an online class, you never learn nearly as much as in person.
I've learned more on my own taking an online class than I do from a retarded teacher. Retarded teachers can actually end up making you dumber, if they are retarded enough. For example, I'm getting A's in all my advanced physics and math classes/labs. Meanwhile I'm getting a B in my stat class because the teacher taught us the wrong procedure and it ended up fucking with my exam grade. Granted, I should have studied through the book on my own, and I take full responsibility for my fuck up, but I'm still utterly shocked that this man is getting my fucking money to teach me incorrect material. And he has the audacity to call himself a mathematician.

>Oh look it's the same exact "education is old, therefore it's bad" sophistry these p̶r̶o̵regressive fucks have been using for over a century now and has been a disaster every single time they've got their way.

The funny thing is school HAS changed. Not sure why he thinks it hasn't

Or make high school skippable by doing a test, students can learn on their own at home using the internet.

He said copy-paste Finland in the video.

And he mentioned the key features:

-Shorter school days
-No homework
-Higher pay for teachers

There are more complicated factors leading to academic success in Finland beyond just those 3 points

Yeah because the solution to school is less school, less practice, and bigger rewards for the people who are the reason schools are shit in the first place.

I'd love to see how that computer would motivate nigger kids to study.
Maybe it would start rapping meth recipes?

School is one of those things where you kind of get out what you get in

If you view it as "indoctrination" and a "test of obedience" and so on, no shit you're not gonna get anything out of it because you're coming in with a predisposition against it and aren't gonna try very hard.

That said, a reformation to be more like Germany's system with apprenticeships and so on would probably be better. But I can see that that also might force people down certain paths that are difficult to leave later in your life.

>School is one of those things where you kind of get out what you get in
Okay, so how will paying teachers more make kids want to put in more effort? In fact, how will shortening school and giving less opportunity to practice the material makes kids want to put in more effort? It seems like these "solutions" only make it easier for kids to put less in. It would probably end up hurting those kids that are putting their all into school too. I never said anything about tests of obedience or anything of that sort, I don't know why you brought that up.

I was agreeing with you and adding my observations of people who push the Finland thing

What are books?

The thing you can't hear music from, and can barely print any faithful representation of a painting in if you don't have a modern printer unless you have an army of really talented monks ?

Segregation. Put the talented students together to make a good learning environment. Not much you can do for the rest.

The problem is that it's next to impossible to have any objective metric to judge young (elementary/early middle school aged) kids as being talented vs. those that are not talented because people just age differently in that group. It's not really fair to a kid who blooms late to punish him for shit at like age 8

>punish
what
>it's not fair
How is giving kids a curriculum crafted to their aptitude any more unfair than the alternative? Hamstringing skilled students is fair?
> it's next to impossible to have any objective metric
It's easy as piss, just go on their results. Doesn't matter what they can do in 5 or 10 years. If they can learn at a more rapid pace at the moment, then of course the material to do so should be offered to them.

Idk how recently you went to school but what you're suggesting is already in place and it doesn't work well

In my area it's called the GATE program

School is nothing more than a kindergarten for teenagers

Glad to hear you fellas have it.

If you have any experience with, or knowledge of, the system and its failings I'd be very interested in hearing it since ability grouping is fucking illegal over here.

The main criticism I've seen is that it's largely based on how good your test scores are at a young age

There is some statistical basis to say generally speaking kids from wealthier backgrounds do better than poorer kids on standardized tests, at least at young ages

Thus basically each school district's GATE program is giving special teachers and other benefits to basically a bunch of rich kids

And I would say herein lies the overall issue in the US: poorer parents generally speaking are going to not develop their kids well in the important first few kids of the child's life at least compared to a general wealthy family kid

This leads to disparities that carry on into adult life. It sounds elitist as hell but I can still see it in my physics program at uni, you talk to some kids and you can just tell that they came from a poor family by how they talk and think about problems. I think the importance of those first few years in the development of a kid are understated

I seriously fucking hate progressives.

Literally the laughing stock of anthropology majors.

I don't think that's true, because of how heredity of IQ changes with age. Sure you can expect some difference in knowledge owing to the time one's spent with quality education, but that's something that should vastly diminish with time.

And I don't see how the proportion of rich kids to poor ones is a problem. Gifted people are a very limited resource, and should be cultivated to be exploited as best possible.

Increasing wages would attract more teachers which would increase competition in the field, schools could pick more good teachers and get rid some bad teachers. In theory.

Partially correct, the problem is that many mainly minority schools want teachers that are also minority. They would rather have a large number of bad minority teachers than a large number of great non-minority teachers. Blame liberals for this.

Isn't contemporary American education based on models from the 1930s that were used to prepare people for factory life? Or is that just a meme that doesn't really apply?

Partially true, but there was MAJOR change after WW2 when Eisenhower pushed changes because he saw how unprepared officers were academically.

Pic related is how you actually fix it.

As for his video, if high school is so difficult for him then why not make a black-only school that pushes kids into blue collar work?

Yeah that and fucking unions stop schools from getting rid of the bad ones. The system is put in place because it seems more "fair" but it's actually only fair to the teachers that aren't doing their jobs correctly, the ones that deserve to be fired. It's the same situation as . The "good" kids are not being allowed to excel because the system wants to be fair to the "bad" kids. The only reason this system is still in place is because the good kids can cope with these setbacks and don't let it stop them from succeeding, whereas the bad kids just bitch and moan for more support. We think it's better for everyone because the ones that it's worse for still end up better off than the ones it's better for.

Yes, but you are missing the point... they do not CARE if the teacher is good or bad as long as they of the the "correct" race. Many liberals firmly believe that a child seeing a teacher of the same race is MORE important for their development then having a good teacher of another race.

You cant live a day without any art medium being in your life though. Try driving a car without any music or not having a tv.

I do not have a tv, and my radio is broken in my car. Claiming art is unimportant is denying an aspect of human expression. What we make, what we think is a form of art.

But claiming that the advancement of humanity has gained more from music, dance, and acting than scientific progress is stupid. If we had rocks we would draw in the dirt and bang them together, but getting better at doing those is tangential to human advancement not a precursor to it. Venice wasn't a place of art and then power it was a moneyed place that attracted artists. Art has always been a symptom of agency and human expression.

Objection, your honor, foundation?

>Standardized education WORKS if the children have a father and a mother who work with them each night and supply a safe stable home environment.

Bullshit. I was an honors student and all my parents ever did was yell at me for getting B+s.

>Prove me wrong

Doing even one mastering physics/chemistry/engineering online homework assignment.

Literally proved his point
Retard

Holy fuck you are deluded and autistic

>Mastering Engineering

ho-lee shit son, nothing gets me saltier than that. can't believe i'm paying an extra 100$ to do online homework.

Looks like the American honours system failed you since you clearly lack reading comprehension

...

>Mastering
My blood is still 90% salt from Mastering Chemistry three years ago.

This is a terrible solution
You'd just end up with maybe 1 in 10 children actually understanding what they were doing.

behold the future of education

>kj/kg
I get triggered when they don't ^-1

>I'm not an idiot because I don't understand basic pre-algebra!

>That's not my kind of "intelligence", I'm an artist, a rapper.

>It's not me, it's the education system! and uh...institutionalized racism and shit

What if the art inspires them to join the one true faith?

I laughed at that part because in Finland majority of the points he mentioned in the video still stand. Especially in primary school where teachers (at least 15 years ago) use literal army tier discipline to keep order. Same commands as well.

At least in higher education things are changing quite frequently and in college some courses' lessons are streamed over the interned and the videos saved so you can study at your own pace whenever you want.

Another neat feature would be the EXAM system where you can reserve a spot in a classroom and complete a course exam there whenever you want. Real useful on courses with hundreds of attendants where it would be really difficult to gather us all in one spot at the same time. Also no need for human interaction at all since everything is automated.

>not getting a degree in mathematics

this is where he messed up. this is where they all mess up.

>why can't i just smoke weed everyday and still get a good paying job that contributes something of substantial value: The Video

>The only reason someone wouldn't want to learn is because the person teaching them is a retard.

You've never heard anyone say "I'm not a computer/tech/math/car/book person" before?

This.

Oh, man, reading isn't for me.
What have I read? Oh, lots. Like To Kill a Mocking Bird and... To Kill a Mocking Bird... and ... Well, at least I know that racism is bad! I also know that reading isn't for me.

>waaahh math's no more important than dance or art
>we should be like finland or singapore!!

lmao dumb nigger

Is there a worse program than Mylab mastering?
>Hey you were supposed to round this but we didn't tell you lol you got it wrong
>No refunds on wrong codes for nearly identical books : ^ )
>Check out our snazzy etext that always starts on chapter 1 instead of a table of contents and takes 30 seconds to load a page

Catholics are a bunch of cannibals. Orthodoxy is the only true step forward

>righteous guy is black
>ebil guys are all whitey

Should I even bother watching the rest of this cringeworthy racial propaganda garbage?

He's right, math is dumb.
We wouldn't need math to develop stuff like medicines or technology or power sorces or war devices if people were more focused on art and dance. People could get along and live peacefully, we shouldn't need math is school. We need to be more like Finland

>Should I even bother watching the rest of this cringeworthy racial propaganda garbage?
No. These fuckers all eithier think it's still 1955, or they're being disingenuous. My guess is the latter.

>MASTERING PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY
>where even if you know the material, know the functions and know how to do it, you so much as fuck up on your rounding and YOU ARE WRONG
>how much energy does this particular substance absorb when exposed to sdagihasiogha
>oh you entered 519kj/mol?, sorry the correct answer was 519.0kj/mol

Damn right he's right!

>you entered 1/3
>sorry the correct answer was 0.33333333333333