GRITS

>Anson Mills

I can verify this is true. I never thought I liked grits because they didn't taste like anything except whatever fat was added to it until I tried theirs. A world of difference.

Grits are historically poor people food, why are you eating that garbage?

I'm from the North and rarely ever see grits. But I was served some on a trip to Tennessee, and figured what the hell, lets try this.
On the table was a bottle of pic related. I almost gagged, what in the fuck is this stuff? Disgusting. Is this meant for grits?
My bowl was ruined. I suppose it would be much better with cheese or butter, but I have not gotten another opportunity.

Forgot pic

>Is this meant for grits?

Hell no. It's just like having packets of sugar, sweet-n-low, splenda, etc, on the table. It's for your coffee or tea. Not for food.

Hmm. It was in Chattanooga, and someone suggested that was there for flavoring the grits. I had never tried either of those things before, so there I go putting a big squirt of it in the bowl and mixing it up.
Did I get trolled? Maybe they just like playing tricks on some Yankees.

The instructions on the package make great grits. Never done the crock pot method, I grew up doing it on the stove and I think it would be less effort.

Yeah like I said, if you want to buy online for grits Anson Mills is probably your best bet. Their Carolina gold rice is a treat as well, speaking of southern food

Maybe that person that you were with used it on his grits for some silly reason? I dunno, I've seen people do some crazy shit with their food and seasoning.

But no, it's intended purpose is for sweetening drinks. It's common in the south because we a like a fuckload of sugar in our iced tea, and that stuff works instantly rather than having to stir a lot to dissolve sugar.

How do ya like ya grits? Regular, creamy, or al dente?

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This is very curious then... I'll have to take a picture of the grits section of the cereal aisle next time i am at publix.

It is an absolute wasteland of instant bullshit.

I think they might have had "lakeside" brand grits but the picture on the front of the box seemed to overly romanticize poor people culture - and fuck that noise.

Thanks for the Anson Mills tip.

>but the picture on the front of the box seemed to overly romanticize poor people culture - and fuck that noise
You mean the picture of the old farmhouse? That brand is pretty old with historical provenance it's safe to assume that's probably something significant in their history.
>Fuck farmers for wanting to show part of their history on a product that they produce and market
>I want a picture of a penthouse so that I feel safe
Lots of people live in houses just like that chief, people that you depend on, fucking deal with it.

>poor people culture
You goofed, mate. This thread was good until that.

This is the trump america narrative that got us where we are.

It's time that some of us started rejecting that bullshit.

Redneckery is what it is, white trash people are disgusting, and poor people are poor because they couldn't adapt in a changing economy.

I don't care if my grits are made in a farm house like they should or shouldn't be. I care about the final taste of the product. Taking a picture of a 18th century farmhouse tells me nothing - other than that the manufacturers of such product are holding onto a time which doesn't exist anymore. Thus the proprietors of those grits are likely to want to #MAGA - and I absolutely love a good grit - but the dude cannot abide by the overt and rancid romaniticization of a time well forgotten.

>Redneckery is what it is, white trash people are disgusting, and poor people are poor because they couldn't adapt in a changing economy.
How about us rednecks stop making food for you Yankees?

Dude, I'm born in New Orleans and raised in Mississippi and Georgia.

I want you to keep making food for me, but if you could get with the times that'd be great. If you don't, we'll replace you with mexicans or robots and we'll still have plenty of great food.

Most of the countries produce comes from the California central valley so go ahead Clayton. Shut down your shitty old mill

regular, i guess

>Clayton

It's Cletus, and don't you'all forget it, you damn no account yankee, you.

>reee le evil doland drumpf
Pull the cock out of your ass for a second and consider how autistic you are.

The owners of a business that makes more money than you'll ever make in your life choose to display part of their history on your packaging and you piss and whine because it offends some moral high ground that you've made up for yourself?

Get the fuck over yourself.

Clayton's shitty old mill was shut down in the 50s and 60s.

All milling these days are done at centralized factory locations, save a few (very expensive) brands that claim to have a superior product because of their artisanal bullshit. The reason the other products are cheaper - is because centralized factory milling with modern technology produces a very high quality product at lower cost.

If you ever come to the south, drive through the parts that are an hour away from the interstate.

It's like everyone just up and died or stopped upgrading their homes and infrastructure in the 1960s. (because everything got centralized and made more efficient by the governments move to factory agriculture)

You'll see houses with 4 different roof colors. You'll see houses with no roof. every car purchased by the entire family sitting on the front lawn for the last 30 years (all 6 domestic pieces of shit). You'd think the lack of an income and basic economy would force them to sell those cars for scrap so they could fix their roof... but there is no talking sense into the people that time forgot. They live in a dream world of romanticized haydays when america was great - never realizing that america has never been greater. Sure they got passed over and left behind - and they want to drag the rest of america backward like no child left behind - but its their own fault for not adapting and working harder to keep up.

Most of the countries economy is in California at this point too... it's as if social programs to help people that need it the most pay off in the long run. SO WEIRD.

But the proud south will continue to stagnate and refuse the help it needs... It's fine. We'll take what little you can give and keep moving on without you.

>pic related must be changed to an image of a sterile factory because this label glorifies vineyard culture which is a time well forgotten

>another instance of blatant pandering to the past here, the cherry blossoms and brush stroke characters truly represent the past, big block letters and no decorations please!

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You seem incredibly butthurt.

I didn't say all of ancient culture was a bad thing.

But the parts of southern culture (lack of education, lack of social support, wrong headed adherence to doing things in ways that weren't economical) that ended in economic disaster for an entire generation of racists shouldn't really be glorified.

Those other labels are glorified because they are success stories. There are entire villages and geographies that are FLUSH with economic success because they stuck to wine production.

Name the part of the country that is doing well because they stuck with grist milling? It doesn't exist. This is an overt romanticization of wrong headedness and a lack of openess to new ideas and better cultures. It's an ode to stagnation.

Great comparison. A+ work.

These people could have, and should have, updated their packaging at any point in time after 1790.

Look at this guy. Autistic as frothy grits, indeed. Need a bit of pepper, yeah?

>an entire generation of racists
lmao at this cunt, it's obvious you don't give a fuck about these people you're pissing and moaning about so why don't you stop pretending you care.

Whether you like it or not a significant portion of people (including some of your favorite liberal buddies) get their rocks off to the image of old shit and it goes literally no further than that. No one sits there thinking about how either society was affected by the agriculture they produced, it's a marketing gimmick that works both to sell products and to make you butthurt. It's not about cultural shift, it's not about the romantic image of the past, it's about a fucking package looking appealing to the eye. Stop having autism.

>my culture is shit, but it's MY culture and so i'm going to stick with it no matter how bad it is for me and my future children
>in fact, i'm going to romanticize it and hold it in high regard as my "heritage"

All I'm saying is, good luck with that. I think people like that should be challenged on their beliefs. If you get upset when challenged by it - in the face of clear evidence that you could be doing much better if you changed - and you don't change because you got upset, then you have the emotional and logical capabilities of a small child and you deserve everything you are getting. It would be wonderful if you stopped shitting all over everything else in the world in the process of getting what's coming to you.

And if you think I'm a bad person for thinking something through on a deeper level then fine. I think you're a shitty person for never having questioned the world around you on more than a superficial level.

>it's about a fucking package looking appealing to the eye

This is anti-intellectualism in a nut shell and should be shunned in our current "post truth world."

This is some high level shitposting, I tell ya hwhut

>>my culture is shit, but it's MY culture
>my culture
>my
Typical "deep thinker" jumping to conclusions, I grew up in metropolitan Minnesota. That doesn't stop me from thinking you're a pretentious twat with an axe to grind looking for a reason to shit on people you disagree with politically.

>All I'm saying is
Except that's not all you're saying you simpering cunt, you casually brush off the fact that those wine merchants who celebrate their heritage in wine got to that position through extensive xenophobia and abuse of what's basically intellectual property law (this wine can only be called this wine if it's made in this region of this country by these people) despite the fact that even professional wine tasters have a hard time differentiating them. So the only thing that differentiates regions who became rich from vineyards to poor areas who were displaced by the industrialization of milling is the former was propped up by more bullshit elitism.

So that's your dividing line in your grand assessment of iconography in packaging? Whether or not the product in question was the result of a couple hundred years of pseudointellectual snobbery and good press? The intrinsic value of your product is defined by how socialites perceive it? Celebrating one culture is okay because they made money but celebrating the other is bad because they're barely clinging on? I guess we're giving those damn mouthwash gargling redskins the boot for good now, out with their old superstitious bullshit and backward ways, you can't make it rain by dancing stupid Indian. How very liberal of you. As I previously said it's clear you don't give a fuck so just stop pretending that you do, you're wielding this phony concern for the well-being of rural America as a cudgel to make them more like you. To colonize them. I'm not fucking blind and I have been to the south, I'm well apprised of the fact that the region is dying as a result of dependence on old industry, let them die.

Let them die on their own terms, not bullied into being liberal democrats until they completely forget who they are, some will leave and get jobs in new industries the same that poor people always have, and it will depend remarkably little on your input you whinging cunt.

>Celebrating one culture is okay because they made money but celebrating the other is bad because they're barely clinging on?

Some people would just call it success and failure.

Look, I know you country ass hick mouthed hillbillies (no matter where you are from) love an underdog because it gives you hope that your people (stupid fucked up incectual people) will somehow one day triumph over their intellectual superiors - but that shit just ain't gonna happen.

Stop pretending like your failures are something to be proud of and just go make something new that you can be proud of. It's what the rest of the successful people are doing. I know you lack confidence and don't think you can compete - i know you'd never admit that - but you're never gonna win if you never even play ball. When you lose, and you will lose, just take your social safety net hand outs that the liberals are nice enough to give you and know your place.

>metropolitan Minnesota

flyover AF

But that will never happen because you pompous pricks would sit by while the whole system collapses.

You talk about social hand outs and making things that you can be proud about, but California is in no better place than the south due to its unsustainable economic practices. When the bubble pops they'll be even worse off than the South which is making an economic recovery with industry that is fleeing the North.

It's not perfect, but the South is far from dead, and has been on an upturn since the stock market crash in 2008.

So you should know your place as well. Because the west coast is failing, and when it entirely fails it will fail hard and no social security program will save you.

>But that will never happen because you pompous pricks would sit by while the whole system collapses.

You don't seem to have a coherent point here and it gives the impression that you don't know what you are talking about.

>It's not perfect, but the South is far from dead, and has been on an upturn since the stock market crash in 2008.

"A rising tide floats all boats" Pretty much all markets and geographies have done well over the last couple years because of policies that Obama and the Federal Reserve put in place.

I wouldn't go patting your kind on the back for doing well recently. Most of the wealth went to the .1% and you just elected one of them to the office of president. Take a guess how thats going to work out for you.

So is Georgia. Everything but NYC and LA is flyover territory.

Except that's not rue in the least bit. The Policies enacted by Obama and the Federal Reserve, just took money that was already in the economy and recirculated it. Which creates a net nothing effect. government stimulus has done nothing but be a stop gap measure at keeping old business models alive without having to innovate or change.

The wealth inequality has not occurred due to the .1%, but due to the continued erosion of the middle class, by enacting programs that stifle new entry businesses and continued propping up of businesses that cannot innovate in the current market (such as education and other subsidized industries).

The reason there was such a large push against Obama and his policies is that full time jobs are decreasing and part time jobs with no benefits are taking their place due to small business and general business regulations that make it less economically feasible to hire full time hires.

The loss of economic power of the middle class due to decreasing jobs and inflation due to economic stimulus has caused this larger divide among the wealthy and the "99%".

So while the South is sitting by and dying it's on a rebound with more industry moving back into the US. The hopes of the middle class are being able to work at low skill full time jobs and provide for their family. But the US was moving to where almost all of the industry, was a nontangible industry. So many people who were low skilled laborers from factories no longer have jobs. So their only options in many cases were to take multiple part time jobs.

I live in Mississippi and I've seen the after effects of many of the leftist policies that are touted for California, but when the bubble pops entire counties can die off within years, but in the same vein racism is very overstated by the media. Because most racism died off when it was no longer economically feasible. It's why Noxubee county was almost entirely destroyed by the racists policies of Democrats.

Add fuckloads of cheese. fuckloads of green chili. and some blueberry sauce

judge me faggots. i dare you.

If you want some good grits there are 2 ways to do it

You can make it like a sweet rice porridge with butter cinnamon and honey

Or nice and savory with some good white cheddar and pepper.

>Because most racism died off when it was no longer economically feasible.

I found the idiot who uses big words to make you think he's not an idiot.

>lives in Mississippi

The state that receives the largest amount of federal dole with the least amount of contribution per capita. The state that until the late 1990's proclaimed their tallest building a fucking casino with 20 stories, Gold Strike, in Tunica County, one of the poorest in the country. The state with crippling poverty, the poorest education, highest illegitimate birthrate, most obese in the nation, an evangelical church every half block, and a legislature that is hellbent on worsening conditions for people.

Thanks, I'll pass on your lecture white trash, and I live in the fucking state.

You can take whatever you want to take form what I said, it makes me no difference.

Racism has killed many rural counties. When local governments wanted to keep blacks from working it destroyed their economies.

And the state may be the poorest, but it does not have the lowest contributions. After all Mississippi fulfills about 25 different military contracts.

But honestly I don't give a damn what you think this has been my observation from growing up with nothing but dirt in the middle of fucking nowhere. The state is better off than it's been in 20 years and that's a good thing. I drove trucks around the nation and have seen many different parts of the US after getting my Degree and pursuing a Masters I think just about everywhere is in deep shit. The south has a good chance of rising out of the economic collapse that fucked them in 2008. The other states do as well if they can get industry and have top down control over the domestic markets, but I doubt it will happen in most places.

>on worsening conditions for people.
>Thanks, I'll pass on your lecture white trash, and I live in the fucking state.

haha

Post grits recipes.

I posted before about the white cheddar and the cinammon and honey. And if you can find them Sciples mill grits are pretty great.

From Business Insider:

>In Mississippi, citizens receive $2.34 in return for every dollar paid in federal income tax, which ranks fourth highest in America. A whopping 43.68% of Mississippi's state revenue is comprised of federal funding, the highest such rate in the country.

Get your head out of the sand, Cletus.

I'm the guy that rekt the right wing MS fag and live in MS but quite frankly I make Polenta when I want a grits like dish.

1 part stone ground cornmeal slowly poured into 3 parts salted boiling water stirring constantly. Reduce heat to low and stir every few minutes for 30 - 40 minutes. Add butter, olive oil or whatever at the end. You have a great "grits" without the stigma of a backwards culture of white trash.

>Rekt

That's a lot of implying. you have done nothing but bring up federal funding which does nothing to even address the points made. You can compare the amount of federal funding received to the amount produced, but in a stat with thousands of people below the poverty line and industry that has been destroyed by government restrictions and huge business cartels it really shows nothing.

It's not suprising at all that those numbers are true. because if you take any other poor state you would see the same trend. you see it in Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana. States with poorer people will very little ability to provide take in more federal funds than they produce.

The point I was making is that with the influx of industry that the South will not just die off. In fact it is more likely that California will suddenly have a collapse due to the tech bubble in the Silicon Valley.

Statistics are nice, but you have to show a reason why they mean something not just post them.

>poorer states listed

Everyone of them controlled by right wing governors and legislatures. Grow up Cletus, it isn't some federal conspiracy against the white trash and poor blacks, it's your own state's rightwing policies that create the hell holes of the poor southern red states. And you feed off the handouts from California and New York while bitching about federal spending. Humorous, if it wasn't so hypocritically pathetic. But you're used to hypocrisy, given you have an evangelical church on every corner.

Detroit
Baltimore
NYC
Atlanta
LA
Portland
Seattle
STL
New Orleans
Cincinnati
and on and on and on with the Dem cities.

You're the one holding on to these conspiracies not me. Haley Barbour and Phil Bryant have done wonders to unfuck this State. Musgrove almost threw us into the fucking deep end. States need Industry. America needs Industry without it we're heading straight for another economic collapse just like with the housing bubble.

It's near impossible to maintain a long term economy without basic industry, and the economy that is based on intangible goods and fiat values will collapse, but tangible goods are what hold value and are used by everyone in the country.

I'm not exactly sure what grits are, but I cook cornmeal in milk and then add a substantial amount of butter while it cooks.

Yeah, Bryant has really brought in a bunch of industry. Where? When? After he signed and stubbornly defended the bill permitting legal religious discrimination, any corporation with a shred of conscience abandoned any plans to move to MS.

These poor white trash and black southern states are failing because they have no educated workforce due to the fact that the education systems are not funded by the state legislature, and no educated employee from another state would be willing to move to such hell holes. Other states grow rapidly with much more regulation than the MS corporate shill legislature has. You want a growing south? Change your philosophy.

Bryant has brought huge amounts of industry back. from steel to tires. Steel Dynamics, Yokohama, And MS still produce the MaxxPro MRAPs under contract. Every economy needs the working class to thrive, because not everyone is destined for a white collar job.

The education system is fucked, but it wasn't fucked by Bryant, It was fucked by Bush and no one stepped up to do anything about it in the 8 years we had the progressive left in office, in fact education subsidies are even higher, and the industry is stagnating with no innovation in site. You have Pearson and McGraw-Hill with defacto monopolies in education and no one can get into the industry to help fix it due to red tape.

>education fucked by the feds

Newsflash: Education is a state responsibility which is why the red states do not have an educated workforce. You blame the feds, disregarding the fact that other states that actually fund education produce an educated workforce. If you think MS is going to rise again from the ashpit of a third world atmosphere, it most certainly will not be on the backs of a blue collar labor force, especially denied the ability to engage in collective bargaining. We might become a sort of Japanese satellite making Yokohama tires and assembling Japanese autos, or sewing Chinese sneakers like Indonesia, where labor is dirt cheap and people can afford to eat for the day for 10 hours of slavery. Oops, that sort of describes MS in a nutshell.

What's the difference between grits, cornmeal and polenta? I mean, ir the grits subject is still relevant to the thread

the coarseness of the grind