I'll start: >Falcon 9 will fly in 2008 >Falcon Heavy will fly in 2013 >Dragon 2 will fly humans in 2015 >Red Dragon will fly to Mars in 2018 >ITS will launch unmanned to Mars in 2022 >SpaceX will build launch 4000 satellites by 2020 >30 MPA chamber pressure engine "design goal" >reliability through simplicity >commodification through high flight rate >"ULA is finished" >Musk literally said "I am here and you are dead" to some Arianespace people in 2004
Benjamin Lee
>What SpaceX is doing with stage recovery is an order of magnitude harder than what Blue Origin is doing. Come back when SpaceX has re-flown a stage 4 times, and landed a stage after an in-flight abort, and then we'll talk.
>So you acknowledge that SpaceX is moving faster? Did I ever deny that they are moving faster? Like I said before, they're reckless and are failing hard because of it.
>The actual company advancing the final frontier I don't see any SpaceX rockets launching right now, do you? China is objectively advancing the frontier more than SpaceX right now.
James Morgan
>g forces from descent and heating, both of which were more extreme for Blue Origin landings What are you basing that on? The Falcon 9 is going so much faster that it needs a braking burn when re-entering the atmosphere.
You know, I used to think the persistent anti-SpaceX people with their bullshit arguments and stubborn idiocy were just trolls, but this is looking more and more like some 50 Cent Army / Correct The Record type astroturf work.
Benjamin Nelson
Are you 12 years old?
Steeper suborbital trajectories always have higher g's
Compare Alan Shepard's experience to that of orbital Mercury flights.
Carson Butler
>I don't see any SpaceX rockets launching right now, do you? They launched 8 times already this year. Even if they don't launch any more until next year, that's quite a respectable rate and ranks them among the major players. They should launch again in under a month.
Elijah Nelson
SpaceX won't be able to compete with New Glenn. >single stick with the same capability as block 1 SLS >methane fuel makes recovery and reuse simple >higher efficiency engines > higher stage 1 separation velocity means that payloads can reach high-energy orbits much easier than with falcon 9 >more than enough capacity to make stage 2 reusable >developing a 20+ person capsule for orbital and Lunar flights and tourism >on-site manufacturing will make spacex shipping across the country look archaic >optional hydrolox 3rd stage, completely outstripping anything SpaceX has >back-order customers for falcon 9 and fh will start jumping ship for New Glenn almost immediately New Glenn vs Falcon Heavy is like Saturn V vs N1 One is high performance greatness and the other is unsafe inefficient garbage >but muh ITS literally will not fly until the 2030s at the earliest I'd put money on New Armstrong flying sooner than ITS
Benjamin Sullivan
China will fly 3 times that many rockets by year's end on a similar budget and nobody will bat an eye.
Alexander Lewis
>Steeper suborbital trajectories always have higher g's Not when they're moving at different speeds, dimwit.
New Shepard goes straight up and down, shuts off its engine at 40 km, and barely coasts up to 100 km altitude.
The Falcon 9 lower stage doesn't just boost the upper stage into space, it also blasts it to about a 2 km/s horizontal speed before separating.
If you take the upper stage and payload off of it, the Falcon 9 lower stage could fly itself to orbit. Even if you take the capsule off of New Shepard, it could still not come close to flying the trajectory of the loaded Falcon 9 booster. It's like a little toy by comparison.
Grayson Russell
I already ended the discussion, you're talking to yourself now, but maybe that's your thing, because you're autistic? I don't know and quite frankly I don't care. Maybe you'll get the point eventually in a few years time, for autistic people it takes time I understand to get the point and bear in mind you're one of the lucky ones, some autists never actually get the point, which may be your case, I hope not, because I really want from you to get the point, but I doubt you will, because your autism is severe by the looks of it.
Robert Gray
because the most important technology for human kind is achieving negligible senescence