Why is it that women don't major in STEM related fields?

Because STEM is for humans not leeches.
I swear, women should be classified as parasites.

then i'll correct myself. women loath challenges that dont get them immediate recognition.

You're a classical jerk that makes all men look like douche

>women loath challenges that dont get them immediate recognition.
this is true for most men as well

because STEM classes dont take place in the kitchen

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Personality
women complain about climbing a mountain
but men admire the mountain

>d) Are men smarter in logic based fields than women?
Id go with this. Its not that we are "smarter", but we do have the required mind set, or way of thinking, that allows us to excel. In my experience, females tend to be the absolute worst (chasing publications, attention, fame, not understanding shit, "i am science, also i am girl, so i am special", etc..)

That being said, I also believe this is only a temporary phenomenon and the playing fields will eventually equalize once more women enter the field and sufficient time passes.

GOT EM

I see your point user.

I would say its purely biological but not in the sense, that women are incapable of stem in terms of intelligence, but rather that they tend to be more social than men and prefer to work with people than with things.

For example my sister and i both always excelled at mathematics in school and i went on to double major in math and physics and she took an administrativ job in local government even though she was constantly encouraged to go into stem and i never was.

In our lifetime, there will be more women in STEM fields than men

First of all, that image is cancer.

Second of all, all of you faggots going on about: "Their psychology is due to social construct." No, there are marked differences in the neurology of the TWO different genders.

Three, Asperger's has been described as a 'hyper-masculine brain', that being, the male brain tends to be more logical than the female brain and Asperger's is an exaggeration of that.

Four, IQ differences. Male IQs tend to fall between two posts: high and average/low. Whereas female IQ tends to fall between two posts: low, average; gifted and high. In other words, because the male population is so polarised there are more 'high IQ' men than women.

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>Liberal faggots BTFO.

>Totalist detected***

Next!

>prefer to work with people than with things
I've noticed its actually the women who secure positions in the field that stifle other women joining. I know women tend to have this vicious hate thing going on with each other at times, but its incredible to see it in reals with professors and students at the graduate level in academia.

I don't believe ((((((((((YOU))))))))))

>Why is it that women don't major in STEM related fields?

Because they don't want to?

It's because women are TOO STUPID.

and no need to either.

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>Why is it that women don't major in STEM related fields?

Because the right side of the very IQ bell curve is almost all dominated by men

>c) Is is just plain sexism?
It's definetly not this.
Growing up I saw constant promotion and ads to spark interest to girls to get them into STEM, to the point I'd wonder if guys were even welcome.

They still barely enter the field.
There might be plenty of sexists around, but they'd never know, even as they are damn near begged to join

well, its pretty obvious

females have higher iq level for emotional intelligence scale that let them think out of box

they are aware that math is in fact completly make up abstraction and it was from beginning made up by males (aristoteles, maya people etc.)

While in fact math is pure abstraction that do not exist.

There is no 1, 2 and especially no i in real world.

ITs all made up, no existance.

It a waste of time for them.

Right on partner

I can't say for all but most of my female friends say shit like
>ew, boring
>Can you get a job out of that?
>So, you are going to fix cars and stuffs?
>I know you are smart user, can you fix my computer?
When I told them I am doing STEM. Honestly, why even bother? Of course I have female friends in my engineer classes to, but most of them are manlier than me.

>science is sexist, we need more women only scholarships
>more women enter stem
>"why isn't there more african americans"? Science must be racist and sexist. We need scholarships only for african americans
> more african americans join stem
>"why aren't more trans people in science" science must be racist sexist and transmisogynistic. We need more scholarships for trans*

Is it fair to say that to be good at science, math, comp sci,... you need some level of monastic devotion to what you are studying to get good at it?

No, no, I still won.

Because they hear horror stories of STEM-major women drowning in spaghetti released from the pockets of the sperglords that are their male counterparts.

Simon Baron-Cohen has done a lot of work in male vs female brains and came up with a systemising/empathising quotient of which he states man are naturally born with systematic cognitive abilities and women tend to have emphasising cognitive abilities. Studies by Beilock et al. (and others) also show that female teachers who are anxious in stem fields will pass on that anxiety to their female students only, which may explain the grand difference. Did this for my MA

This is exactly what I mean, males tend to be better suited to STEM. The same reason we were the sex who founded it, even when women had comparative freedom.

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>emotional intelligence
Kill yourself, you dumb popsci fuck.
Drown in your own piss and die.

Because women are not human beings. They're incubators at best and therefore complete idiots only good for breeding.

>All these posts saying women are shit.

Of course they don't want to fucking hang out with you assholes. You guys should all be hanged.

>I know this one girl and she's a shit.

Anecdote, and again only a woman who really fucked their life up would hang out with you raging faggots.

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In the countries where gender equality is higher, there are less women in stem than in ones where equality is shit. This could be bc these countries a usually rich and somewhat socialist (sweden, norway etc), soone doesn't have to necessarly earn a lot. Wheras in poorer countries women go for engineering jobs so they can support their family.

>Three, Asperger's has been described as a 'hyper-masculine brain', that being, the male brain tends to be more logical than the female brain and Asperger's is an exaggeration of that.
Autism doesn't necessarly mean someone is good at math.
This meme needs to die

You image perfectly answers your question

>Is it fair to say that to be good at science, math, comp sci,... you need some level of monastic devotion to what you are studying to get good at it?
I suspect this is the closest we'll get to the correct answer in this thread.

High School teacher here.

I think it starts as soon as the students hit high school where their hormones are running wild. Most teenagers are generally too busy to give a fuck about maths and science, and obviously don't find the classes interesting compared to something like PE or home ec.

The fact that maths has virtually no hands on activities to do with it, makes it boring as fuck to learn. Not to mention how poorly written text books are. So I can understand students when they say that they hate mathematics, even though I majored in it at university.

Science, is a bit different because you get the change with laboratory work to do hands on activities. However students are going to engage with the subject for entirely different reasons. Some students will engage because they want good grades and to impress their parents with the difficult subject that they're studying. Others will study it because they know that their university course in the future requires some science.

Boys will study it because they're nerds and feel like they don't belong in PE and think of home ec as a girls subject, etc. Girls think of biology as icky, chemistry as potions, and physics as too technical, and are quickly to give up in class time when they become stuck on a problem and then gossip to their friends about whatever the fuck they did on the weekend. Boys however, will just to solve the problem.

Aside from the general differences in the sexes and their interests. Most students simply don't care about school and would rather rebel, where maths and science as subjects are probably the heaviest lecture-style classes that you can be in as a high school student.

Even now, it's 2016 and going to 2017 soon... In high schools now... There are a fuck ton of subjects that we didn't have back in the early 2000's. Why would any student want to do maths? This issue as to why girls don't study maths and science as much as boys simply can't be reduced.

Go back to your hugbox

Yeah I have a friend with aspergers and he admittedly has trouble with math. Not all autists have superpowers

Because they rather hang out and bang with future chad businessmen/doctors/lawyers. Those who couldnt score one eventually get themselves a stem-sperglord as provider.

because the only way to get recognition in STEM is to spend the rest of your life studying and writing papers.

intellectually incapable
sadly true, I wish it wasn't but it is

So what about the women that are in STEM? If that were true, wouldn't there be absolutely zero women?

He's not saying every single woman has the exact same intellectual capacity.

OMG!

Nicely formulated user

It might be b.
My girlfriend was a high ranking member of the chess society in high school for her state, aced all of her math and science courses and was on pace to have a bunch of stem AP credits in place for college, and literally dropped it on a whim to focus on sociology because she wanted to be a sociology major.

It literally didn't make sense to me, but she enjoys where she is now and she does have steady employment so its whatever I guess.

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>It literally didn't make sense to me

Like others said here women always choose the path of least resistance and the vast majority of them are afraid to fail.

Annon get off this website, it's making stupid.

>it's impossible for people to have different interests than me and everyone who claims to is just weak or lazy!
kek enjoy your virginity faggot

You are taking what I said way too personal. It's deeply sad and pathetic imo

news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/04/women-preferred-21-over-men-stem-faculty-positions
I would say more so that if society is having any affect on women, it's that it reduces the amount of women in stem fields

just look at how many women major in gender studies and think they will actually be fine

Thanks for complaining rather than providing any decent input
Judging from your post, you work at a really shit hs, so whatever is the case at your high school bears little relevance on this topic, since I doubt ANY kids from your school are going into advanced stem fields, much less women.

your opinion is whats deeply sad and pathetic faggot

Are you ok user? You seem to be having a meltdown. Does a random anonymous opinion really throw you into this much of a hysterical fit?

yeah you know not being interested in STEM and having someone tell me that i actually am im just lazy really triggers my autism

If a few words can set you off into a raging temper tantrum you probably don't belong STEM imo. You also take random opinions as deeply personal offences which makes you look unhinged and broken.

desu the fact that you are responding in such detail to my zero effort trolling says a lot more about your mental health than about mine

im just up late shitposting cuz i didnt get laid tonight

>>im just up late shitposting cuz i didnt get laid tonight
it is natural for men like you to crave the validation of their existence and get depressed if they fail to feel relevant, responsible, dutiful.
The best way for a man to cater his need for approval is to serve some woman (and some of her children) through emotional&financial support, which he sees as ''a childish useless submissive woman'' [or whore and he feels betrayed by her]
Men are pleased to contribute to someone else life, to support their family.

Why women are a good way to feel relevant? Because women love to be provided for and each woman will always find a man ready to please her.
[for most men, the best feeling of feeling real is when the girl moans from your cock in her pussy, or for the most impotent, their tongue in the pussy]

THe problem for men is that they are disposable in the eyes of each woman, since all men wish to serve the few women who talk to them.
Men must thus invent several ways to please women, invention and creativity which strengthen their feeling of being worthy, relevant, in touch with reality.
Men are too impotent to find other way to feel real.
Once that the a woman replaces a man by another provider, the man gets very upset and depressed.
THis leads men to think that they are better than women, stronger, smarter and that they must built a life outside women. Some men manage to indeed built an empire, but they will always loose it for some women.
Women give meaning to men and betas, no matter how successful outside women, will always give up everything for some relationship with some woman who claim to fancy them.

Because they don't want to

>Is this even something that can be proven scientifically?

Yes.

>Is this even something that can be recognized politically correctly?

No.

Working part-time as programmer while completing my degree. There's this female co-worker of mine which majored in gender studies.

>"Well, I don't know about this."
>"Well, it doesn't matter. I never studied CS or math."
>dodges all technical topics and is just in IT for the dosh
>I asked once when she ranted about the lack of females in the tech sector "Why didn't you major back then? Generally, why do you think there are so few girls compared to guys here?"
>"It's because the girls are getting bullied in University for this. I'm not discussing this topic."
>she never enrolled in a STEM program in the first place
>mfw she really thinks it's because girls are getting bullied

It's the same principle why there's a lack of male nurses. It's all about preferences.

I am a female and I love math and science. From my experience, I think men are more inclined to like logical subjects like math and science while females, typically being more emotional, like art and humanities. This does not mean it's impossible for women to like STEM, it's just less likely...sort of like how males like video games and cars at a young age while girls like dolls.

Serious question here:

Did anyone EVER see a black woman physicist?

Because women and men are different
Have you ever watched this documentary?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask
pretty simple

He has a point, the stereotype wouldn't exist if it wasn't overwhelming more true than not.

>I am a female
prove with tits

>prove with tits
this doesn't even qualify as a valid indicator of sex anymore.

shut the fuck up stupid bitch and do what he says

I'm not femanon.

then you better flash us that boipuccy faggot

Haha dream on

Speechless

Why do women like biology and psychology so much?

They know better than to submit to the autistic grind that is STEM

>the right side of the very IQ bell curve is almost all dominated by men
Not by this man, however.

Sure smells like r9k in here. Truly the most pathetic board on this entire wretched site.

Or the stereotype exists because permavirgins keep parroting it. Certainly one or the other.

Lol I teach at the best public high school in my state. That's the general truth with what I posted for public schools. We have 60% of the students at the school go onto tertiary study in university, where majority are girls. Most boys go into TAFE to learn a trade because they see more value in that.

Yeah, the high school might be shit compared to the private schools here, but it's not horrible.

Girls and boys pick different subjects for a myriad of reasons and to reduce it down to simple answer is ridiculous.

Yes, my subconscious lust for mommy's cunt is what made me go into STEM.

I did but I live in a black majority country

Questions such as these, pertaining to the human condition, are impossible to answer simply. The human mind and emergent behavior is mysterious and not elegantly quantifiable like us STEM faggots like to think it is. Each and every person is different, the statistical truth that more men pursue STEM is emergent from many, many different factors that we can merely speculate on.

This won't stop me from talking out of my ass though and giving my 2 cents.

-For whatever reason, testosterone exposure in utero is correlated to a lot of "male" centric behavior (obviously) but also cognitive preferences for logical pursuits over emotional ones. (Pic related are some well-studied correlations). For whatever reason, the resultant neurological architecture from testosterone bathing in the womb favors logical processing -- as well as aggression, decreased emotional response, etc.

-During our evolution, women needed to be emotionally "intelligent" to raise socially adept children and care for their emotional needs. Men needed to make calculated decisions, based on logic, such as where to move the group during winter or the best way to avoid danger. Fathers spent less time with offspring, if at all, than women did so there was no nagging evolutionary need for male emotional ability.

-STEM jobs are more lucrative, and males feel a greater pressure (again due to evolution) to provide resources for spouses/offspring. Men are more likely to forgo personal interest in favor of a career that generates more revenue. Women are more likely to pursue something they actually want to and their career path is less contingent on earnings.

And most importantly:
-Being "smart" adds inches to your dick.

*To clarify:

Low digit ratio = high testosterone exposure in utero

High digit ratio = low testosterone exposure in utero.

Would also need a male control but the problem is there would be too many geetic differences between the subject unless we engineered them in vitro

I know people would see that as morally objectible but if you birthed a human being with a clear purpose would it really be much different to building a machine?

thanks senpai

I want /pol/ to leave

*blows himself up*

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>>It literally didn't make sense to me
>Like others said here women always choose the path of least resistance and the vast majority of them are afraid to fail.

This is true for everyone. It is literally the way our brains work.
I would argue that women are raised to accept this way more than men, it is kind of expected of men not only to rise to a challenge but also to overcome it.

*literal online platforms for recruiting violent terrorists*

*still not as bad as a law-abiding group of people i wish didn't have a voice*