So, invited this chick out from work on Valentines day. Wined and dined her, cost me nearly 200 bucks...

Dating someone you work with is a bad idea

>paying for it

yeah you really did

Idk. Worked together for a couple of years.
We share same interests, She's good looking and intelligent.
Maybe she won't sell her out too cheap?

Live and learn. If you don't have a lot of disposable income it's probably best to only drop your money on a chick who you're pretty certain is interested in you. If you're not sure you go out for coffee/drinks to find out. The only reason to drop a couple hundred dollars taking some girl out to dinner is because you find that in itself a pleasure. Having expectations beyond that is foolish. If a girl wants to fuck you it doesn't take all that much cajoling to get her to do so. If she doesn't want to fuck you she probably won't, regardless of how much you spend on her. At best you'll get a pity fuck. Totally not worth it if that's your endgame.

This, you dumbass. A co-worker you have to see daily has already friendzoned you. Shes not going to fuck you on a first date, even the kiss was probably awkward as fuck for her, but she knew you spent a lot and felt pressured. She did not consider this a "date" at all, she more likely thought you wanted a friend to keep him from being lonely on Valentine's Day. Sex was not in the plan for her from the very start. And you totally failed to arouse her interests with your boring ass conversation, so she bailed quickly. Now have fun working with this bitch for the rest of your days, you've got 40 hours a week, every week, to be embarrassed around her. You got used.

>If you don't have a lot of disposable income

Because a double standard is the only standard a woman has.

Or maybe she's just using the fact that she has a vagina to get free shit.
But women don't ever do that do they

Was this wittier in your head

Agreed, a lot of companies have rules against people who work in the same store being in a relationship. My friend and her fiancee used to work at the same store but corporate found out they were engaged and made him transfer.

What kind of an idiot goes on a fancy first date on valentine's day?

This is the most accurate post in this thread.

Chances were she was interested in you initially, but that faded when she had to actually get to know you over the meal.

Sorry kiddo.

>women are Nigerian Prince teir scammers.
I am an old man and i have only really figured this out in the last few years.
Its amazing how good thier game is.
Never ever underestimate them.
I wish i had never married or even dated one.
If i had my life to live over it would be prostitutes the entire time.

I actually did once. Some mex-tex dinner, cheap wine. Home, drink a little. Drove to her place.
She wasnt some skank whore looking for a free meal.

Found this out when I started renting a house with them.

"Doing anything tonight?"

"Ya going on a date"

"Sounds nice, whats he like?"

"Mmm, i donno. I dont really like him but its free food soooooo"

LMAO, I can just imagine the conversation. I'll bet they spent the whole time talking about work. And people they know at work.

"So, remember the time the printer jammed? That was SO funny! Bill was clearly upset, haha!"

You fucked up then. After a few missteps as a young romantic I learned how to deal with them. Charm them by getting under their skin. Be as likely to needle them for your own amusement as you are to praise them. Give them attention sometimes, and make them work for your attention other times. Make them realize from the start they have to put some effort into keeping you around, because you have no intention on just doting on anyone. That not only makes her value you more, but it makes her more open to yielding to your will. And you exert that for your own pleasure, rewarding her with attention and actually listening to (and even remembering) the shit she says. Because most of what she wants is validation, and if she thinks your validation is something special and a little hard to get she'll happily trade whatever sexual shit you're into for that. She'll even love doing so.

Everything you wrote just validates the idea that women are horrible and should be avoided.

I had a nice one

No, it shows that you are the sort of person who gives up the moment something seems even slightly challenging.

>feeling like you deserve sex

>being a cynical old bastard

>living with vapid women

I don't know if it's a cultural thing but women are, in my experience, pretty great. I've been cheated on by someone I loved, sure, sucks balls. On the other hand, I've dated some extremely loyal and cool girls, slept with a ton of whom over 80% are genuinely good people and maintain at least half a dozen good relationships with good looking, educated and ethical girls.
I know everyone here is an autistic neckbeard or a poltard simmering with impotent/incel rage so you can just avoid my post and keep circlejerking your "women are evil hores" mantra with the other lonely bastards but you're only shooting yourselves in the feet.

Back to /r9k/.

Yes it's embarrassing to get turned down but it happens to most people. And only someone as autistic as you would obsess over it for the the rest of the time he's working with her.

This user has it.
Expecting anything cause you paid for dinner would turn most people off when you think about it. As well, if she perceives you as a friend from the start then you probably never have a shot.

If you have to wait and warm up to someone before you can gather the confidence to ask them out, they had better be as lacking in confidence as you. They'll either note your lack of confidence which is not attractive; or, alternatively, she feels like an afterthought since you haven't tried asking her out before now (exacerbated by it being Valentines Day).

Better luck next time, OP.

Are you kidding? They're fucking lovely. But like poorly disciplined dogs they can be awful to be around if you don't know how to handle them. You have to set the expectations they live up to. Let it be the other way around and you'll be screwed.

Women worth dating don't put out on the first date, let alone the first couple of outings.

>also, dropping $200 and not getting it wet

You 'don fucked up, faggot.

Have you ever considered killing yourself?

>Women worth dating don't put out on the first date, let alone the first couple of outings.
That's so not true. A chick who is into you will fuck you without even going on a date. But there is something to be said for teasing things out a little bit. They like the dance.

>cost me nearly 200 bucks.

A woman’s courtship value is equal or less than the lowest price she ever gave her pussy away for.

After a woman has had a one-night stand
or given her pussy for free
her courtship value
is 0.
or less than 0.

As why would you want to be the guy
who pays for what others got when it was younger hotter tighter
forty pounds lighter
for freeee?

After a woman passes 25, whence she has generally been buttcocked numerous times and desouled, her courtship value is negative.

Disagree entirely. If she turns your crank and you can maintain the upper hand with her she's worth the time. Getting serious with a woman under 25 is a good path to heartbreak, because most young chicks can't keep focus for very long. They're fun to play with (and completely seductive) but not the best idea to take all that seriously.

tits or gtfo

The women I lived with were fun and not slobs. I didnt give a fuck what they did during there free time.

It might be a cultural thing. I know people in North America tend to manipulate/use people more then other places. Men do this too btw, leading women on by making them think they want a relationship, then dumping them once theyre bored of the sex.

But would you pay $200 on a date when you know she fucked Chad for free when she was younger and hotter?

This user knows what's up. A woman can fail you anytime but a bottle of Jameson never fails.

I have no interest in a partner i must manipulate like some sort of pet.

Sorry, I dont have respect for women who fuck on a first date, let alone no date at all.

That being said I will do everything I can to sleep with a girl on the first date. But if she goes for it there will not be a second.

...

>Jameson
m8, you buy Glenfiddich 18 years with that and still have money for whores

I took my boyfriend out to dinner spend 150 bucks and when we got home he said he was too tired to have sex. WTF that aint right.

So you're a perfect example of the double standard. Fair enough, as it makes biological sense. Whether or not I respect a girl has nothing to do with whether or not I date and sleep with them. It has an effect on how seriously I'll take them, but that's something that happens over time and has nothing to do with dating in my view. I was dating a few different girls when I stumbled across my wife - she just ended up being the one I respected the most over time, so she's the one I kept.

So... what's your complaint?

This post doesn't make sense.

How have you dated many loyal girls? How long did you date them? How could you possibly tell if you weren't together for many years? You even pointed out that you've "slept with a ton".

Sitting in Aldi as cashier, sure you can afford this kind of money?

>tfw girlfriend paid for our date
You guys are weak

I fucking want a kiss on the lips.

>being provided by a woman
>calling other people weak

What difference would it make? We all have our pasts. When I was younger and hotter I fucked chicks that were hotter than what I could probably pull now. But who knows? I've been married for a while, so I really don't have any idea what I could pull these days.

>not taking advantage of the fucked up cultural values of the modern age
get with the times retard. Women earn as much as men and they can pay for dinner sometimes don't be a shitlord.

No one is "entitled" to sex.
And expecting sex in exchange for money spent is called prostitution, son.

I stopped dating altogether a long time ago familia.
Enjoy wasting your time in the hopes of getting subpar pussy.

Wrong board, guys. Go back to your sad containment board.

So you're going to die childless?

It's imorral to no be an antinatalist

Lets hope we all do...

amen

Who's going to take care of you when you're 70 or 80? The government? The taxpayers? Are you going to wageslave until you save enough to have a nursing home take care of you or are you going to try to die while you're young?

Is that the reason you want kids? So someone can wipe your ass and feed you? If i got to the point where i couldnt live without someone helping me i would end it.

Nah. This...

This might imply she's not a whore who will eventually cuck you.

I realize you're probably a misanthrope but that's what a family does. You take care of the old people in your life, you receive their properties and assets when they die, you do what you can to increase your assets in your life and your children will take care of you when you die so you can leave your stuff to them. That's how families become wealthy. Are you a nonwhite?

A woman giving sex early in the relationship is a massive red flag. You're clearly deluded or maybe just a whore.

I'm not going to take care of my parents. And I expect the inheritance I get from them to help me ride out my later years.

Shameful. Imagine if your dad heard those words from your mouth. Your post in a word: degenerate.

Shaming tactics don't work on the internet, haven't you read memo?

If you were my son, and hear you say that i would beat the living fuck out of you
Just sayin

>massive red flag.
For what? Like I said, it's just sex and dating. Whether or not you decide to take any particular girl you're having sex with seriously is something that you decide over time. And you can take your time with that. That will allow you to assess actual red flags instead of penalizing a chick for finding you attractive, which is silly.

I'm not trying to convince you anymore. I think you realize how what you're doing is unsustainable. Like it said, you're probably misanthropic. Other families will outlive your bloodline. You're a hedonist who just wants to play video games and watch anime until you die, or something like that. What is your purpose?

My father has gone over his finances with me in great detail so when he kicks I know exactly what to do with them. He's pretty much taken it as a given that a chunk of his wealth is going to end up with his offspring, and is quite proud of that.

I dont't expect anyone to help me if I cant take of myself and having kids for the purpose of having someone who will take care of you is fucked

That's nice but he probably expects something from you. Like I don't know, you to take care of him so he's not out on the street dying from disease and hunger.

So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.

Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.

Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.

>having someone who will take care of you is fucked
Having a family has many benefits. This is just one of them, and an important one. Social security, pensions and retirement are relatively new concepts to the human race that didn't exist until a hundred years ago and they might not exist when you reach old age. Having a family guarantees you won't die of hunger when you're 80, if you raise them right and instill good values in them, which clearly your parents didn't do.

boo hoo african tribes still practice cannibalism and arabs are pedophiles who sell their sons for loaves of bread. White men have advanced beyond that because we believe in things, like family. I'm getting too /pol/ here.

Or you say fuck it, enjoy your life, and like the guy with the bullet said, make sure you're not a burden when it finally comes that time. Do not resuscitate order, call it a life.

Kids are a drain on your life and shouldn't just be had so you have an insurance policy.

You're completely fucking stupid for taking a girl on a first date on VALENTINE'S DAY, that works with you, and dropping anything more than $50 on a first date.

The amount of money you spend =/= getting laid.

That was a quote from the bible

The last thing he'd want would be to be a burden on anyone other than my mother. I keep in close touch with them and visit often. But they would never ask for more than that. They've got more than enough money to get through whatever life has left in store for them.

Jews mutilate their children's penises.

Sorry you live in poverty and have to clean up your grandmothers shit, but Im not worried about going hungry

I don't hate Small Horse Show (fashionslut a best), but you seriously worry me.

Sounds like your father put alot of hard work and effort into life so he wouldnt become a burden on his children's lives when he got older. Seems like a pretty good dad to me.

At the height of his powers dude was a fucking lion. I am well aware of how fucking lucky I am to have a father like that. Big part of the reason I move through the world without fear.

I don't work. I really like aldi though, wish there were some nearby, but the ppl that work there are always in a bad mood.

parents change their attitudes a lot when they get old enough to need you. Hopefully you are also a better person by then.

It's already been said but, why didn't you just go to a hooker dummy?

If he needed anything from me I'd be there. When mom fucked up her back last year I was with them for a week. That's not the point. The point is they have substantially more money than they'll ever manage to spend, and when they're gone a chunk of that goes to me. I've lived my entire life with that knowledge.

Father was a "lion" at the hieght of his power who build up a bunch of wealth and influence to pass on to his children thus continuing his legacy.

All that work is for nothing because his selfish son only wants to spend it all on himself instead of growing it and passing it on to the next generation.

So basically rich boy who doesn't work was trying to lecture a real person on the values of family. Kek this thread man...

Oh, give it a fucking rest. People don't have a goddamned "legacy." Do you remember your great grandfather? Can you tell me a story about him? I can barely tell you jack shit about mine besides he was an alcoholic and a stern man.

The same little shit you pop out is likely gonna go do the same fucking thing all of his peers do. Spend 18 years in education, graduate, and go work in middle management, maybe a slightly better position.

We're all going to die in some apocalyptic event anyways. We're no different than slightly more important animals.

You will be forgotten. Act like an adult and deal with it.

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

It bought me a great life, and my sister gave them grandkids, so it's all good. He's a fucking happy old man now.

>We're all going to die in some apocalyptic event anyways. We're no different than slightly more important animals.
Have fun with that mentality. Some people think humanity means more than your animalistic instincts. Your way of thinking doesn't make you an adult.

>Some people think humanity means more than your animalistic instincts.
That's called hubris.