Does Veeky Forums have their own homemade pasta sauce recipe? Tips or tricks?
Mine's pretty standard: Italian sausage or veal Crushed tomatoes (canned is fine imo saves a lot of work) Green bell pepper Onion Garlic Sugar Salt Pepper Fresh parsley and basil Bay leafs A bit of tomato paste Italian seasoning
will post recipe if anyone is interested
Gabriel Smith
I usually make the sauce first and then add meat if I feel like it, sometimes I make chicken parmigiana or other shit with the sauce
I usually put in canned or smashed up tomatoes, onions, garlic, finely diced red capsicum, salt, pepper, basil, sage and sometimes a little bit of chilli powder or fresh chopped chilli.
Then I just cook it down until it's thick enough
Andrew Roberts
crushed tomato master race checking in
>no red pepper flake
Angel Davis
what are possible reasons my tomato sauce is slightly bitter?
tried with and without tomato paste tried various canned tomatoes tried more and less olive oil
wtf is it? I beginning to suspect its my aluminium pot, what kind of pot should i use?
Isaac Hernandez
I made chicken parmigiana from scratch last week. Came out great (excuse my paper plate please). Expensive dish to make, real premium cheese is so overpriced. I use a little bit of chili powder too, forgot to put it up.
Are you putting in sugar? You don't add olive oil to the sauce itself. A stainless steel pot should be fine (not sure about aluminum honestly).
Parker Robinson
Capers, anchovies, olives, and a little pepper flakes, but it's not my recipe. I also use canned Italian tomatoes because I assume they're better than American canned tomatoes and supermarket tomatoes are shite really though I make it a little different pretty much every time put in a spoonful of brown sugar homes
Mason Cook
I've put in sugar, and carrots. I simmer for 1 hour. The actual fuck
Isaiah Ortiz
How much sugar?
Ethan Price
A teaspoon and tablespoon on two different tries. for 28oz can
Benjamin Mitchell
Any pot is fine, I personally don't use tomato paste, more tomatoes and more salt gets the same effect as far as I know and it might be the olive oil if you're using extra virgin.
We have a lot of deli's around where I live cause there are a lot of Italians and Greeks around my area, good mozzarella is pretty cheap down at the local deli.
Where are you getting your cheese and why is it so expensive, even at the supermarkets down here in Australia a 500g bag of pre-shredded mozzarella is only $5 and a proper ball of mozzarella is not too much more expensive.
Michael Harris
About 1 TB per 28 oz can of tomatoes.
Asher Nelson
I go by the mantra of simplicity for sauce: Line bottom of sauce pan with about a quarter inch of olive oil. Add three or four minced garlic cloves per tomato. Once garlic is fragrant, add chopped roma tomatoes Add some fresh basil, a pinch of salt, a dash of salt, a dash of black pepper, either minced carrots or a couple tbs of brown sugar and a tablespoon or two of tomato paste. Also like to add some sort of chili, I've been using arbols lately and really think they complement the sauce well. Let simmer a couple hours and it's good to go.
Christian Hill
Why are two of you replying?
1 TB should be enough. Post your entire recipe and I'll see if I can spot what you're doing wrong. If not, it may be the pot.
I've found that tomato paste deepens the flavor, but I suppose a real tomato could do that. I'll have to experiment.
And it's the real Parmigiano-Reggiano really. I don't have a good local deli but I could try better to shop around than just Safeway. About $10 for a wedge of Parmigiano-Reggiano and maybe $6 for the ball.
Cameron Cook
No onions? No meat?
Sebastian Myers
I use a mix of mozzarella and some other type of cheese, whatever I've got on hand, usually a nice cheddar but parmigiano cheese works well too if you don't mind paying extra.
Usually here in Aus our Safeway/Woolworths have a cheese section with some pretty good shit, dunno whether American Safeway has that though.
Lucas Price
1 can (28-oz) crushed tomatoes 2 TBS olive oil 1 onion, diced 1/2 carrot, shredded 4 cloves garlic, finely minced 1 TBS salt 1 TBS sugar 1/2 teaspoon dried Italian herbs pinch of red pepper flakes 1 tablespoon tomato paste 2 tablespoons chopped Italian parsley
I sweat the onions and carrot for like 15 minutes, not browned just softened.
Then add the dried herbs and garlic. Cook for a couple minutes.
Then the tomato paste, cook for a couple minutes to take the raw edge off.
Finally add the tomatoes, simmer for an hour stirring occasionally.
Matthew Moore
What kind of olive oil are you using, extra virgin probably isn't the best choice for cooking the sauce with.
Lincoln Peterson
Yeah we have a gourmet cheese section. It's pretty much the only place to get actual real cheese.
It could be the olive oil. But other than that not sure what it could be. I suppose you could try removing that and using a new pot to rule everything out. If not, just add more sugar. Maybe one of those cans just happens to have a strong taste to it.
Connor Reed
>I simmer for 1 hour LONGER
Jaxon Williams
filippo berio regular olive oil
Gavin Richardson
Why? You should be using olive oil for cooking your veggies and meat. Don't add it by itself to the sauce.
Nathan Lopez
Where do you live man, I'm sure there's gotta be a deli somewhere near you, look around the areas where a lot of Italians live, there's bound to be a deli somewhere around those area's
Josiah Butler
Huh? I use it to sautee the veggies in the very beginning.
Luke Sanders
Ah misunderstood you. Yeah it could be the pot (or not). Not sure. If a new pot doesn't fix the problem just add more sugar. It sucks but what can you do. I can't think out anything given the info you provided.
Ethan Carter
That sucks because I don't know where to get quality pots and pans
Jayden Bell
tfw the first time I made sauce I used sweet onion and it came out so fucking sweet
Caleb Gomez
You don't need a super high quality one. I'm sure your local retail chain has some decent ones.
kek
Samuel Hill
A basic pomodoro sauce doesn't usually have meat. I make meatballs and braciole sometimes, or a nice bolognese, but this is just my basic sauce.
I add onions occasionally too, but the carrots or sugar add enough sweetness. Sometimes I'll replace carrots with sweet onions too, but I've never noticed a real difference in having both.
Josiah Brooks
Not nearly long enough, you want at least three hours on a light simmer
Hunter Cooper
Ingredients: >1kg Mince veal >2 Large onions >1 Green capsicum >1 Red capsicum >2 Carrots >2 Chilli's >3-4 Medium mushrooms >2 Cloves of garlic >sloosh of red wine preferably cab sav >Few leaves of basil >2 Pinches of pepper >Pinch oregano >1 x Tinned tomato pure >2 x Tinned crushed tomatoes >4 x Jars arrabita sauce
Method: >Fine dice and brown off onions/garlic/chilli >Add meat and pepper, cook till sealed >Cut capsicum and carrots into small cubes about 1cm and add >Sploosh some wine in there >Add tomato pure >Cut mushrooms into fine strips then add >Add oregano and basil finely chopped >Add crushed tomatoes and arabitta sauce >Reduce till even thick soup consistency >Serve with any pasta you like and freeze the rest
Austin King
Interesting, no sugar? You don't find it too acidic?
Parker Cooper
nien, doesnt need salt either cause the wine,carrot and arrabbita have enough sugar and salt to go round. Though im sure some american will tell me it needs like 2 tablespoons of sugar for the overall quantity and a tablespoon of salt.
Aaron Sullivan
>doesnt need salt either
Caleb Wood
How the fuck do you make sauce that isnt watery.
Ive tried a can of whole tomatoes, ive tried a can of diced tomatoes, ive tried adding some canned tomatoe sauce to thicken it. Ive simmered it for 6 hours.
No matter what I do it comes out as a watery piece of shit.
Logan Rodriguez
Next you will try and convince me you need to grease a pan before the cooking of bacon and you should touch your penis immediately after the chopping of chillies.
Josiah Morgan
More salt, you don't even need to simmer it for six hours man, just till it's thick enough
-1 onion, 1 carrot, 1 celery stick for mirepoix -sweat it down in butter+oil with a bunch of garlic -brown the meat (usually just ground beef, sometimes i like to add 1/2 ground beef 1/2 ground Italian sausage for a completely different taste) -28oz can tomatoes -6oz (or whatever the tiny can is) of tomato paste -fill the empty tomato paste can with red wine and add that in -salt, pepper, garlic powder, oregano, dry basil, no sugar (it isn't fucking pizza sauce) -simmer a few hours and you're golden
Jeremiah Scott
Do you drain the can of tomatos if it has water in it?
Jackson Evans
Nope. If i use whole canned tomatoes i crush them up/blend them. Usually, though, i use a 28oz can of tomato sauce (literal "tomato sauce," not prego/ragu/etc).
Austin Sanders
What's hard about roasting tomatoes and then sticking then in a blender with garlic and herbs?
Jacob Perez
Too much mess and effort when there are predone products that do it to a consistent quality without too many preservatives, also i dont have a pocket italliano family replete with boss nona cook to do it with.
Nathan Wright
Too much mess and effort?
You literally just toss some tomatoes onto a baking sheet for an hour then shove it in a blender. Cleaning a single item too much for you?
Kevin Jackson
Yeah, I make a basic tomato sauce (with a heavy onion and garlic base with anchovies), and sometimes add meat to it. I occasionally make bolognese, but my family doesn't like it as much because they don't like chicken liver as much as I do.
Jayden Turner
irrelevant. salt is seasoning. having bland food is a sign of a bad cook
Josiah Lopez
Because on an average day after work it's not worth the extra time for barely a noticeable difference.
Liam Wood
my sauce in summer is: >put tomatoes in mixer >strain >heat in pan with salt,pepper,olive oil while pasta is cooking >sauce pasta
in winter i do a classic bolognese 1-2 times and freeze it, one big pot lasts for around 20 meals
Grayson Perry
you can add gelatine or gelatineheavy meat, thats why veal is included in most bolognese sauces. if you do a straight up tomatosauce your mistake is in the saucing, you need to add some pastawater,oil/butter and cheese to the saucepan and put it on high heat when you add the pasta til it reaches the desired consistency over a heavy boil, doesnt take more than 20-30 seconds
Grayson Kelly
"barely noticeable", i also dont roast my own chicken, i prefer buying canned roast chicken, its consistent quality and its not worth the effort for a minor improvement
Carson Young
false equivalency
Nolan Butler
not really, people who rationalize and justify not making their own stock,tomatosauce,mayonaise or any other thing that requires very little work for a much better result than the things you can buy in a store are indifferent to what they eat and shouldnt lurk a cooking board
Josiah Gray
wrong
Jeremiah Barnes
Do you not have a job or something? Who has time to make their own mayonnaise etc all the time? There's nothing wrong with having convenient alternatives. You don't have to make your own mayo every time you make a fucking sandwich m8.
Isaac King
I like capers and anchovy in mine. Just a bit. Lots of garlic. I'll use leftover sauce for meatball sandwiches or whatever else I can think of
Austin Jackson
i know people that can cook are a minority on this board, but buying something jarred that takes literally 2 minutes (including washing the utensils) then justifying your inability and laziness is just stupid. it also keeps 2 days in the fridge, and costs about 1$ for 300ml. Its your life, you can eat literal shit for all i care, but why bring that attitude to a fucking cooking board and be smug about it
Jordan Peterson
It's one fucking ingredient that's jarred you autist. Everything else is fresh, stop being so stupid.
>inability Because roasting tomatoes is hard right?
>2 days in the fridge And?
>$1 Tomatoes don't cost 1 dollar.
There's nobody in this thread except you being this autistic. Do you make your own mustard? Do you make your own honey? Do you make your own olive oil? Ketchup? Soy sauce? Where's the line faggot? Not all of us have the luxury of being jobless neets with mommy's credit card.
Alexander Morales
Roast chicken in a can is full of preservatives and thus rules it out as a viable alternative. Fresh roast store bought chicken from a supermarket deli however is a time save and a justifiable equivalent. the arrabbita sauce already has salt in it you penis ponderer, if you want more salt and higher blood pressure just to satiate your taste buds go the fuck ahead i am not going to impede your way to an earlier grave.
Joseph Hill
And as a matter of fact, if you think a good pasta sauce is nothing but tomatoes garlic and some herbs in a blender I'd say you're the one who doesn't know how to cook.
Brayden Taylor
>le salt is bad for you meme wew lad
Elijah James
You peel em first? I want your-a recipe in more-a detail.
Ayden Wood
I honestly don't think he knows how to cook if he doesn't even bother to saute the garlic first.
Jacob King
you confuse posters, i was specifically replying to your mayo sandwich comment, using canned tomatoes is fine, using storebought sauce is like using storebought mayo. i dont know or care what recipe you posted nor do i care if you use canned tomatoes or roast them yourself
Julian Jones
Canned crushed tomatoes Garlic powder Persillade Salt Dill weed Oregano Chili powder Black pepper Tarragon Basil = Win
Charles Baker
everything is bad for you when it lacks a proper dosage, just like everything is a carcinogen.
Nathaniel James
Stewed and diced tomatoes Tomato paste Crushed tomatoes Mushrooms Green and red pepper Red onions Whole basil leaf Parsley Salt and pepper Red pepper (to taste) Brown and white sugar (to taste) Oregano
Canned for all the tomatoes work fine as OP Said it saves a ton of time. I Sautee the veggies up first then add all the tomatoes, cook it low and slow for a few hours. Funny this was posted, having my bimonthly sauce day tomorrow making enough sauce for a month or so -courtesy of your local neighborhood mob boss
Lincoln Foster
1. sweat a lot of thin onion stripes with concentrated tomato paste and honey 2. add fresh tomatoes, fill up with canned sieved tomatoes 3. add ajvar (bell pepper-eggplant-sauce from the Balkan area, pic related) 4. let reduce until creamy, the longer the better 5. season
Jackson Watson
Chicken parmigiana? Do Italians (not Americans) actually eat this?
Olive oil Garlic Can of San Marzano Tomato (out of season) Roma Tomato (in season) Fresh Basil
Spiralized Zucchini cooked in butter.
Delicious.
Matthew Edwards
ask an italian
Blake Hernandez
1. Open up a jar of ragu 2. Heat and pour over freshly boiled barilla Wa la. Pasta al dante ( thats my name btw)
Chase Hill
8 hour Sicilian gravy(gonna need a rather large pot. At least 9 quarts):
Start with coating the pot with olive oil. Brown mild Italian sausages Brown Pork neck bones Brown beef short ribs Set the meat aside
Sweat the following in same pot: Onions Grated carrots Garlic (any kind works here, fresh, jar of minced, or a tube of paste) Season veggies with salt, white and black pepper, oregano, garlic powder.
After veggies are tender, add some tomato paste and kind of let it "brown."
Deglaze the pan with some beef stock. Then add canned whole San Marzano or plum tomatoes. Crush with a mashed potato masher. Then add all the meats back in the sauce. Add some milk but no more than half a cup. Let simmer for 8 hours. Season to taste along the way.
If you plan on emulsifying about half way through the cooking process, you may want to put the pork neck bones in at the beginning wrapped in cheese cloth since little bits of bones will come off and you don't want that shit getting caught up in your emulsifier.
I don't think I'm leaving anything out but let me know if you have questions. If you have the time and you've never had this style of sauce before, then you are in for a real treat. Best part is freezing the left over sauce and using it in the future. Tastes even better after frozen.
Kayden Cruz
>50/50 pork and beef mince, 1,5-1lbs depending how meaty you want your sauce to be >1 large carrot >1 large yellow onion >2 stalks of celery >4 cloves of garlic >2 cups of vegetable broth >half a cup of red wine >one 28oz can of whole, peeled tomatoes, go for san marzano if you can >two small cans of tomato paste >dash of worchestire >dried parsley, oregano, thyme, marjoram and basil >salt and pepper to taste
Crush the garlic, dice the mirepoix and saute them soft in the olive oil in your dutch oven. Add minced meat, brown it nice and even, add worchestire and tomato paste, stir the paste into the meat and let it start to caramelize. When this happens, add the wine and deglaze. Crush tomatoes in the bowl and add them into the dutch oven. Stir until even, add spices, salt and pepper. Add the vegetable broth, lower your heat to simmer, stir again until the sauce is nice and even, cover the dutch oven and let it simmer for 2 to 3 hours, stirring and tasting the sauce periodically. When it's lost half of it's liquid and it's thick but not too thick, boil your pasta and enjoy it with the rest of the wine you had left over.
Jordan Jones
>seasoning garlic with garlic powder
Asher Torres
1 can tomatoes 1 Onion 2 TBs Butter
That's it really. It's very sweet already. That's the basic one I use when I'm lazy, which is often.
Easton Williams
That's really only if you don't have any garlic on hand. Failed to mention that I guess.
Joseph Parker
t. """""Italian""""""" from NJ. YOU DISGUST YOUR FOREFATHERS
honestly
Tyler Green
>3 medium onions >a bulb of garlic >1kg fresh tomatoes >400g tinned tomatoes >2tbsp red wine vinegar >1tbsp tomato puree >1tsp sugar >olive oil
1) Sweat onions and garlic for 10-15 minutes until soft and tinged 2) add tomatoes, vinegar, puree and sugar - simmer for 40 minutes with lid closed 3) blitz/blend sauce with a blender or food processor