Does this generation have a voice? What should it shout about?

Does this generation have a voice? What should it shout about?

I think that any book that tries to describe the current times should at least attept to ELEGANTLY merge the unexpored long-term effects of the new technologies, with the social upheaval (specially issues fueled by the left), like:

>increased vapidity and shallowness due to social media
>porn addiction in young males, and virginity
>promiscuity
>extended adolescence and unemployment
>lack of attention span
>consumerism
>obsession with identity politics and gender/race issues
>refugees and inmigration crisis

At the same time, it should NOT get too edgy or pessimistic. It should have a positive outlook, but be a wake up call all the same.

I'm probably forgetting important topics, and I'm only mentioning the "bad stuff," but anyways.

What do you guys think it should be about?

Presenting the voice of our generation....

Brandon Wardell

>Does this generation have a voice?
zizek on the left
duterte and trump on the right
hilary for the establishment

Come on nigger

Sure is convenient that all those issues are the fault of people who you disagree with

Rolling Stone certified OP.

>porn addiction is the fault of someone I disagree with

>a bunch of old fucks
no

I was just referring to the obsession with identity politics. And I've never said it was anyones fault. Just that it's fueled by the left.

I guess you also have the reaction, ie Trump, Brexit, Le Pen etc

I'm not sure what you mean by "having the reaction."

But instead of discussing this, why don't you answer the original question? ie what the next generational book should be about

Yes. Sam Hyde is the voice of our generation.

Kanye West

Voices of our generation (broadly speaking)
Brandon Wardell
Sam Hyde
Kanye West
Laurie Penny
Owen Jones
Taylor Swift
Halsey
Lena Dunham
Anons who run meme pages
Troye Sivan
Bo Burnham

It'll be a series of tweets and Instagram posts saved as highly compressed JPEGs and passed around various websites for several months until they're finally published in a small paperback containing the disclaimer that, rather than actually reading the book, you should burn it in a public space.

You forgot Tao Lin...

How about Johan van Foy?

Whatever it is it will be meme tier and will feature drug use, vaporwave, the alt right, BLM, wikileaks/hacking, trans rights, snapchat etc etc etc

>wah wah wah, masty horrible mean-spirited identity politics!!

Big words from snotty fucks who don't have to deal with living in an enemy country.

That's the real question. Is there anything that can represent our generation that will not end up being meme tier?

You know who it is. Published author soon too.

Well...

FAGGOT

What about Houellebecq?

Finding out what makes a person who they are

The limits of language

We all know it will be some random from tumblr.

KEK

What did he mean by this?

he isn't "this generation", but I would say that he's right about a lot of things.

damn...

You are all a meme generation.

you forgot the biggest one of them all

Would a book named "the meme generation" succeed?

Yo The Who is MY SHIT!

This generation´s voice would probably be a black man speaking as the stereotype says, with an over exaggerated laugh and those crying emojis.

FUCKING
A
WHITE
MALE

i miss when she was cute

why do hispanics have to look like 50 year olds at age 25

>What should it shout about?

Same thing as always: what should be the function of government, and the type of people who end up running governments, not all these social issues which are used to divide and conquer the masses.

any other examples?

its a very high pitched, grating voice with a lot of vocal fry

I had this thought the other day that if there was truly a book of our generation it'd end with a different beginning than it started with. Such is the way we appropriate and change the context of every fucking thing these days.

Gotta keep the memes flying high.

So, pewdipie.

>Zizek
>The voice of the left
A man can dream. But the majority of "leftists" think he's a shitlord. He's more of a chance appealing to the alt-right crowd to try and turn them to the other side.

I wrote an essay about this in my last year of high school and got full marks

What has this faggot done exactly?

Why are people claiming he's a Nietzschean Uebermensch? As far as I know he's just a hip-hop artist.

He is a a good consumerist whore.

The following are selections from my high school essay "On Kanye " which attempt to answer this question. See if you can guess which essay by which member of the meme trilogy I'd just read:

"What most people have difficulty with (and what often stops them from listening to one of his albums) is his public persona. Very few celebrities conduct themselves with the bizarre egotism and lack of self-awareness that Kanye West achieves. Leaving a trail of controversies in the press, West seems more often a caricature of celebrity than a flesh and blood human being."

"There are cynical souls out there who believe the way Mr West carries himself in the public sphere is nothing more than publicity. And they’re no doubt correct to some extent. His now famous “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” comment, given seemingly off the cuff during a live charity telethon for victims of Hurricane Katrina (a moment which Bush would later refer to as the “worst moment of his presidency”, the other, more obvious “worst moment of his presidency” perhaps having slipped his mind), came within a week of the release of his second album. But, if that’s the case, it’s not a particularly good method of gaining publicity, since it turns far more people away from his music than it attracts."

"Those who lack self-awareness are mocked, while those who have it are praised. From the hyper-analysis of the way politician eat to the endless layers of parody found in modern comedy, where schmaltz and sentiment are crucified, we are a culture obsessed with how we come across. And it makes sense, considering how submerged we are in the apparatus of self-viewing, especially now, in the internet age, with social networks which invite the subject to take part in the construction of their image as if that’s all we amount to: images. And I don’t know about you, but I’m hesitant to outright proclaim that they’re wrong. This field of reflexive self-awareness is pretty much inescapable."

"Now our particular brand of au fait seen-it-all-before self-awareness has been in the making since the 1950s (Pop Art’s irreverence towards form and tradition and the metafictional shtick of Vladimir Nabokov’s charming paedophile and Thomas Pynchon’s cartoonish depiction of war showcases just this obsession with how we come across). Its purpose was initially as a defence mechanism. As people felt less and less in touch with any sense of authenticity, they realized that it was possible to manipulate their image, to appear knowing, intelligent, on top of things. Initially, they could pretend they were able to live without the aspects of the old world which had been lost. In fact, Rock and Roll culture celebrates this loss."

(1/2)

(2/2)

"As I said earlier, the field of self-viewing, of self-awareness, is inescapable. Even those who cut themselves off from the world to live in the woods haven’t escaped fully, since nothing is more affected and self-conscious than this extreme rejection of the modern world. Mostly, these smaller, half-escapes take the form of concessions. A good example is the romantic-comedy. We are willing to indulge in one of the ideas put under suspicion by the four thinkers listed above, but only if we can distance ourselves from it. And we do this by framing it in comedy, something that acknowledges itself as a kind of fantasy, too good to be true."

"But Kanye does something different. It’s not a wholesale rejection of modern world’s self-consciousness (because this would be false and affected too), but more a wilful ignorance of it. He surrounds himself in the techniques of the 20th century—the pastiche of sampling, the synthetic quality of the music, the free discussion of taboo subject matter—while completely rejecting its ethics. He acts in a way which very deliberately eschews self-consciousness."

"First, it’s important to clarify just what a genius is. Wolfe cottons onto the fact that genius is intricately linked to history, to the extent that geniuses, in the sense that Wolfe means, represent and respond to their eras, and are inseparable from their time in history. So, a genius clarifies the issues of their time and solves them."

"Does this describe West? He certainly says so often enough, constantly referring to himself as a genius in interviews. He doesn’t fit the mould of what we would regard as genius; he lacks the reserve and the premeditation that we expect."

"But maybe Kanye West is a genius in the same way Don Quixote is a knight. On the one hand, obviously, Don Quixote does not measure up to the tales of chivalry he attempts to imitate. But on the other hand, the arch-irony of the book, that those who interpret it as straight satire miss, is that Don Quixote, by virtue of his heroic inadequacy, embodies the chivalric ideals better than most knights. What makes Cervantes great is this reversal: he manages to take a ridiculous character, an absolute vacuum of self-awareness, with no clue how much disdain and mockery is directed towards him by the other, less naïve characters, and dignifies him, by showing the emptiness and impoverishment of their worldview in comparison to Don Quixote’s. And if Kanye West does anything, it's show up, in a subtle but powerful way, the vapidity of the self-viewers, the real narcissists, whose constant self-consciousness, projected onto others, provides our culture with its desire to dissect how people come across, and our suspicion of any kind of sincerity and authenticity."

>And I don’t know about you,

But I don't know about you user?

There's not really one voice because this generation isn't unified in any way. There's independent black lives matter movement, the lgbt movement, the "we're repressed christians" and retarded tea party movement, the xenophobic isolationist movement, the anti-establishment movement, etc. and since it's so unstructured there's not really any figures who stand out as representative of each group. It's not like everyone is rallying against mandatory conscription together like during the Vietnam war.

In her case, extreme substance abuse. She's literally fried on benzos 24/7 due to being too much of a pussy for existence.

The voice of a generation only becomes apparent 10 - 20 years on when people finally figure out what the fuck was going on and put it into some kind of context.

I think there's also the fact that we're only 16 years into the centuey. Ask the literati in 1916 what they thought the dominant paradigm of their century was gonna be and you'd have got very different answers from if you'd asked them in 1926 (i.e post-waste land and ulysses, post-ww1 etc.)

>What should it shout about?
Alienation. We will probably get another Kafka.

I'm not even meming when I say this but its almost certainly Chris Poole

I agree with this. But, of course, portraying alienation in the early 21st century would be very different from alienation in the early 20th century.

That's true. In the late sixties youth were more or less unified on a single cause (against Vietnam war). Still, there were different issues: drugs, hippie movement and counterculture in general, Black Panthers, second-wave feminism, cold war, space race, etc. Those were crazy times, way more crazy that what we are living now. Some people were rebelling just for the sake of it.

I understand what you say, yet, at the same time, there has to be an contemporary account of the times. Even if there hasn't been enough time to reflect on what was going on, I believe that a shout in the air while events are unfolding holds a lot of value. At least, in order to capture the spirit of the decade.

something like
>begins with an evil white male protagonist but somewhere along the lines it becomed clear that it was a black opressed female all along, and thus all wrongdoing is pardoned

...

Try discussing this with pol

Nope, this thread belongs here. It's about translating issues to literature

>way more crazy that what we are living now

barely. our time had wars too,both of which are basically failures, and the worst economist recession in a minute that extends into now through slow growth and unrecovered employment rate, blacks are uprising like they are getting ready for a race war, and feminism is infiltrating institutions with very radical ideology. also, most of the youth have thousands of dollars of debt before they have even got out of their 25s.

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wtf I hate (((them))) now

For once, can this board just not reply to /pol/turds? We have report and hide features, you know.

This reminds me of an essay I wrote in high school as well. I talked about "awareness" levels and how intelligence is seen as a mark of what awareness level you're on. Interesting stuff.

Everyone is their own voice due to shit like twitter, tumblr, and comment sections. No one needs a book written for them to express how they feel. They just do that on the internet now

who is this?

>What should it shout about?
Your greentexted complaints read like a list of observations that are frequently leveled AT millennials, not observations made BY millennials and not necessarily accurate observations made of millennials.

Millennials have less sex, can be quite generous in time and gift, and value bartering and experience more than consumerism. A 'lack of an attention span' is interesting because brains do get rewired by multitasking, unlimited information access, etc., and scientists are studying this. The state of the economy and how that influences reliance on family and employment issues. How we relate to other cohorts, how we are influenced by information, and polarizing topics (are we growing less accepting or are we the most accepting generation), etc. etc. etc. There are a lot of assumptions and accusations, but it's interesting how a lot of assumptions are being proven wrong when the environment is accurately studied and reported on.

>tl;dr: if you wanna be a bitter old fart, get some better assumptions