/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

MOOOOAAADD DEEEB

>New powder mage series
Didn't hear anything about that. What is it gonna be about? Powder mage's and savage blood mages's love child going out into the world?

>New butcher book
Which butcher? Dresden, or steampunk?

Stormlight, Lightbringer, mistborn, w/e gri novel that will also be released next year.

Storm you!

>instances of religious zealots oppressing minorities
The church used to oppress their own people... why do you think things have changed?

Were the people who studied science and the accused of witchcraft in church ruled times minorities? You think the inquisition was a dream you had?

>socialism
What do you have against it in fantasy, and how old are you and are you a rich NEET?

Writing ain't free. The creation of the cosmere gotta be litterd with the blood of innocence. Profanity, aka cussing is not to be used. It is the sign of an unbeliever and probably a non-Mormon as well :DD. A book every year and not every 6 ok.
Praise the shards.

goodreads.com/book/show/28811016-sins-of-empire
Seems like it's going to be more about politics and espionage than large scale combat, which I'm totally down for.

Imagine being such a faggot about politics that you can't read books with other point of views.

Fucking Mormons and their aversion to swearing. It's the thing I hate the most about them, other than than their creepy plastered smiles, sinister helpfullness and mindless cheer.

It's not that I can't read it, it's that I'm tired of seeing the same old cliches in everything.

It's the steampunk, but I'm starved for things to read, so I'll take it

Being pro socialism is a cliche?

>the little people bring the uncaring elites to heel
Yes.

I want to read a fantasy book not a feminist ideology handbook + diversity is good open all borders refugees are innocent and need help book with a small touch of fantasy added in

It's fashionable. It's not uncommon to portray capitalist minded characters as greedy and uncaring and just stupid stuff like that. It's not a surprise to see it in fiction since the typical ignorant leftist actually believes it to be true but that doesn't make it any more tolerable.

Even in most socialist minded series that doesn't generally happen.

>more about politics and espionage than large scale combat, which I'm totally down for.
Sounds right up your alley.

>DRESDEN FILES IS NEVER BEING PUBLISHED AGAIN

Just finished reading Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion for the very first time. I feel pretty mixed about it, parts of the story I couldn't put down and there were some genuine feels but I'm also left strangely dissatisfied by the ending, like some things were tied off too neatly while others were left blowing in the wind or happened without explanation. Like, for example I got my head around the Rachel/Moneta timeline fairly easily, but what about the bit where Kassad dreams about teaming up with the Shrike and Moneta against the Ousters and then has sex with her while she turns into the Shrike? Are we not meant to take that literally/see it as a representation of his fears? And, if the Core UI is so intent on wiping out mankind then why agree with future humanity to send Moneta back with the Shrike and give humanity a chance to save itself? Surely it would take every advantage it could get. How does Brawne turn the Shrike into glass? Timey Wimey shit due to carrying Empathy?

Do the Endymion books help clear up some of the things left open after Fall Of? I'm hesitant to dive into them as I heard that the quality of the series takes a nosedive but I'm curious now and am wondering if they'd be worth a read.

>reddit's oh so "le cats run things" novel
>peace talks on hiatus since 2013
Fucking reddit

simmons can't into sequels. see: Illium.

>Do the Endymion books help clear up
No the Endymion books stars an exiled Loli Peace Princess Jesus who strives to spread her message of UNDERSTANDING to reach a new stage in human evolution with heightened mental awareness and instant teleportation.

She is also striving to find portals before the church who is trying to catch her, find her.

Endymion (AKA Gundam Unicorn)
Starring Aenea as Mineva Zabi, Raul Endymion as Banagher Links, the Farcaster Portals as La Place's box (The Story: The McGuffin: The Filler Tier Experience) and The Church as Neo Zeon and a whole host of the old characters that you actually care about as side characters for a bad retconning fanfic tier rendition of the book that you actually cared about.

The only returning major character has been retconned into a soulless one dimensional villain.

How do I become anime?

Become one with the shards

Read this book and it's sequels for literal anime in prose.

Nah I'm more of a /leftypol/ kinda guy

When is the Zybourne Clock novelization coming out again?

It's always some trust fund kid writing the book too.

dirty bourgeois socialists

Find a flaw

While non-shardic manifestations exist, the most powerful manifestations of Investiture in the Cosmere are unsurprisingly the result of Shard intervention, either directly performed by Shards themselves, through powered constructs such as the Highstorms of Roshar (though of course the distinction between Shard and holder, muddy at the best of times, is difficult to draw), or by drawing Investiture from a Shard, either through a Perpendicularity, as on Scadrial, or a framework that Shard has created.

Drawing from a framework requires the proper sDNA identifiers; these may be passed down by mundane means, by simple splicing, (hemalurgy) or more sophisticated work (spren).

it was boring

The author.

it's sexist and mysogynistic

What novels have a Final Fantasy aesthetic?

Pic unrelated?

XIII probably has the best FF aesthetic in the series, just the worst overall presentation. On the other hand, X is celebrated without feeling like FF at all

Is Brent Weeks every going to tell us what Ezra is doing in the forest with all those orbs in the Night Angel Trilogy

But he said name a flaw?

pretentious as fuck, absolute shit prose, mary sue Kellhus, author shills his books here, first year philosophy peddled as deep truths of the universe, wild namedropping peddled as "worldbuilding", GRI for GRI's sake.

Stormlight cause I know it's for sure coming out next year, the others I've given up on.

Its fucking trash anyway.

Goddamit. Why do some authors retcon/fanfic their sequels? Especially if the first book(s) are a success? Seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Wise Man's Fear comes to mind.

>You think the inquisition was a dream you had?
Historical revisionism to prop up proto-fedoras and make them seem better, the inquisition did nothing wrong. The rumors of torture for example are almost pure constructed myth.

While it IS true that the Inquisition's torture practices were largely exaggerated and that they did try every other possible rational solution first before actually accusing somebody of witchcraft, saying that "they did nothing wrong" is moronic in the extreme. You're embarassing yourself, I understand you feel warm and cuddly in your newfound reactionary worldview but nigga please.

There is literally nothing wrong with forciblyremoving kikes and sand niggers from your country. Ask lovecraft, he'll back me up

>"what a complacent, self-assured, egocentric jackass I was in those days! . . . I can the better understand the inert blindness and defiant ignorance of the reactionaries from having been one of them. I know how smugly ignorant I was. . . . It's hard to have done all one's growing up since 33—but that's a damn sight better than not growing up at all."

>HPL in a letter to C. L. Moore, February 7 1937

It's ok user. You're gonna grow up too, someday.

Too much philosophy, and his sane characters are boring. That's about it though.

Good work, user.

Besides the already mentioned Bakker and Sanderson:
Alastair Reynolds's sequel to The Prefect
the sequel to Luna: New Moon
Lies of Locke Lamora book 4

It's required scifi reading. Slog it and boast it.

No it isn't. It's garbage with no redeeming qualities.

It's like Star Wars, I think everyone (even the biggest fans) admit to a certain degree it's pretty shit. But like SW, Dune is extremely well known as most people are recommended it as "entry" into scifi, at least Space Opera. It was a big inspiration for Warhammer 40k, or at least Ive head people say that a lot. If you want to indoctrinate people into reading better scifi, then you'll have to read Dune, just so you can talk to fairly newby fans.

I don't see how any of that is relevant. Yes it's popular. Doesn't mean you can't just recommend a better book from the get go, there is no need to read something bad first to appreciate quality. I got Dune recommended to me, read it and was extremely disappointed and even a little angry. It was influential for its time, and that's it. It doesn't hold up.

Comparing Star Wars and Dune, nigga plz. Star Wars is complete garbage, stuff like muhh desert planet is completely ripped off from Dune.
Now, I agree that reading Dune can be tedious, especially for a modern reader who needs explosions every 3 seconds, or the reader who is used to have morally grey characters and not Mary Sue's like Paul (actually this isn't exactly the case but w/e), but the great things about Dune are the overarching themes of prophecy, destiny, religion and ecology and this is something you don't realize as a reader until like maybe 2/3 in.

>morally grey characters
I miss the times when good characters could just be good without needing some mean streak or edginess.

>but the great things about Dune are the overarching themes of prophecy, destiny, religion and ecology

That sounds exactly like literally every single Fantasy series since the year 1900.

>The Prince of Nothing is a series of three fantasy novels by the Canadian author R. Scott Bakker, first published in 2004, part of a wider series known as "The Second Apocalypse". This trilogy details the emergence of Anasûrimbor Kellhus, a brilliant monastic warrior, as he takes control of a holy war and the hearts and minds of its leaders. Kellhus exhibits incredible powers of prediction and persuasion, which are derived from deep knowledge of rationality, cognitive biases, and causality, as discovered by the Dûnyain, a secret monastic sect. As Kellhus goes from military leader to divine prophet, Drusas Achamian, the sorcerer who mentored Kellhus, comes to realize that his student may well be the harbinger of the Second Apocalypse.

If I didn't know otherwise, I'd believe this is an amateur web novel written after the author got "enlightened" by reading Harry Potter and Methods of Rationality.

I wish fantasy authors put more thought into naming their characters.

>the others I've given up on
Are you talking about locke lamora by chance?

>Harry Potter and Methods of Rationality
What's that about? p.s.: I haven't read the original HP

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I haven't read it, but as far as I'm aware it's a Harry Potter fanfic written as if Harry was fucking autistic and solved all his problems by pointing out the scientific errors in the series' magic system.

Good lord.

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You know that fad with fanfiction writers where they thought if they made their protagonists able to solve problems by being "smart" their stories would be better? It's that.

>I'd believe this is an amateur web novel written after the author got "enlightened" by reading Harry Potter and Methods of Rationality.

But that's exactly what it is.

So like, Wolfe decided that New Sun wasn't heavy handed enough with the Catholic stuff and decided to write Long Sun so he could smash the Catholicism into your face with the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

I see no other explanation.

>So like,

Stopped reading there.

Thanks for the idea. New wolfe meme incoming.

I keenly await this, user.

>thinking Kellhus is the good guy

Wew lad

He literally is

>implying Kellhus is wielding all of humanity as his tool to escape damnation

There is not one example of Kellhus acting out of pure generosity because he's a Dunyain fucking shit. Do not trust dunyain scum

>isn't wielding *

Every time I think "maybe I should read Bakker" I remember that ridiculous prose excerpt that unironically went "I AM THE MOST VIOLENT OF ALL MEN", and stop myself.

>not liking overcompensating gay barbarians

What do you mean by this?

he did spare cnaiur when had no need of him.
he was good boy circumfix and gnosis broke him
>wanting barbarians with purple prose

Not sure why you wouldn't want to read about a little beta bitch getting cucked.That's always a delightful read for me.

bakker's prose is atrocious.

Well we have people here tolerating Wolfe so it isn't that bad in comparison.

Is it an altered version of this pepe, by chance?

>Literal fedora
>everything screams Harry Dresden/John Constantine ripoff

Time for chartposting

Is this the most important list for the fantasy genre?

In Hell, they make you read all of them in a row.

>best ADULT urban fantasy
>It's adult, says so right in the name! Stop calling me a pleb!

I like my fantasy ADULT if you know what I mean...

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What book incorperates the feeling of Ancient Astronaut theories the best?