In order to write a love story, must a writer have experienced love?

This thread is just sad Desu

Citizen Kane? I can't help but reply, it's one of my favorites. It really goes to the heart of what it means to be an American, I think. I mean, look at the title. He is a "citizen" above all. A citizen of the United States. Is he an ideal citizen? No. He's not the best citizen ever. He's got his flaws, his failings, but don't we all? That's what makes us human, and what makes Mr. Kane such a human character. The way that Welles shows us how informed our identities by the nation that we are a citizen of, is staggering. He understood more than anyone that the nation is the primary influence in our life, that in the end, we're all citizens, and that there's a little "Kane" in all of us. 5/5

so is my diary

So the answer is no

No, you can write about whatever the fuck you want.

Go ahead.

What if you have been in love but never in a relationship? I've felt very deep love for other people, but I've never been with anyone. I would not feel confident in writing a romantic relationship.

>whereas the vast majority of the adult population does know what it's like to be in love.
I can't even ree anymore

Who

Don't listen to the "experience" meme.
Obviously if you knwo what you are talking about that would make it more realistic but your point of view of loive without having experienced it first is also worth reading, it just would be too romantic or surreal I guess.

I know for a fact that I wrote very stupid, far from reality love stuff before my first girlfriend. If you write it in a way where is a character that has no experience in love that is telling it then you could get away with it.

No, just to have tried to love.

Yes.

what makes you the authority on this subject?
I doubt most authors have lived the experience of their characters even peripherally

source for pic please?

In this particular case I'd say yes.
Because love isn't great and this can only be understood if one has loved and lost :^v)

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just copy bits & pieces from your favorite love stories in lit and tv/film

which sorta counts as experience desu, second-hand experience

As retarded as this may sound: read as many poems written on love by Charles Bukowski as you can. They give you a more realistic portrait of mostly flawed romantic relationships, if you don't have any experience.

So what does love feel like? Salty coins? Bags of sand?

Dude, it wouldn't just seem believable. But if you want to write about non-reciprocated love than you would probably have more success.

It will be useful

>Implying you mustn't have read a love story in order to experience love.
Don't be a meme, dream.

Romantic love could be divided into two feelings. One of those feelings is one you experience in sexual activity/attraction, and the other feeling is vastly dynamic, developed out of loving someone over a long period of time. The latter is not actually a defined emotional state, I guess. It's a developing memory that holds a very distinct emotional power over you. The feeling it conjures is amazing because it comes out every time you see or think of your lover, a person that has probably been stained into your image of the world in a way. What I'm talking about is always different between any two perspectives. Considering that, the power of the love story lies within the attempt to express your personal experience of love. So, if you're writing a narrative that exists solely within the relationship of two lovers, the answer is yes. Of course, love is felt in a lot of other contexts, so you could still write a story about love in some other sense. That's a daunting artistic endeavor though. Hesse did it in Siddhartha, but even that story had to include a romantic relationship to truly bring out the story's themes. Love is really best experienced by lovers.

oh this is good
thanks for your post user

In order to write a rape scene, must a pornographer have experienced rape?

can you define love in the absence of a human female to reciprocate?

technically yes, but you have to strangle a cat in a kevlar reinforced garbage bag

>you have to strangle a cat in a kevlar reinforced garbage bag
well gee thanks for the erection user

You need to have experienced love to write any story my man.

>can you define love in the absence of a human female to reciprocate?
Yea. Homosexual male love.

Literary love is very different from real love. If anything real love just shatters the idealistic view you have beforehand.

It's my gf, faggot. Now, fuck off.

Underrated. Also true.

It depend on what you define love by

Nah, just disappointment.

These

What the fuck are you posting your girlfriend on fucking Veeky Forums. even on reddit or just sending to just friends will be acceptable but fucking Veeky Forums. Disgusting prick.

Nope

Having seen Citizen Kane doesn't make you a film critic either.

I read some of my friend's fantasy book and all of the women characters were astoundingly horribly written, killing any sort of immersion. He does have aspergers, but I'm assuming that because you are asking this question on Veeky Forums.org you aren't too far off, no offense.

I would say that while you don't necessarily have to have experienced deep love, it seems like it would be incredibly important to at least have a grasp of how women think/act. Assuming you want to write about a man/woman sort of love and not a bird/lightbulb type of love or whatever.

is this tho

Real original, Jack Nicholson.

>not living authentically
>not experiencing everything in order to be able to write authentically
>not actively pursuing your Being in the world

fucking plebs in this thread

Do you have one fucking idea you can call your own you sheeply piece of garbage?

>implying you can own ideas

you're owned by ideas and you don't even realize it you poor fool.

>not experiencing everything
Paulo Coelho claims to have been fucked in the ass three times "just to know if [he] liked it"

>Implying ideas can exist without you.
I said call your own, not own. Good job predictably turning this into a dick contest though.

tell your gf that I'm masturbating to her right now

First of all, there really is no such thing as love.

Second of all, if there is, romance as depicted in fiction and films is nothing but a cobbling together of clichés and things that people wish love was. It is anything but an accurate depiction of love (if such a thing exists).

>TL;DR to write a romance, all you need to know is what people want to believe love is, not what it really is.

>>TL;DR to write a romance, all you need to know is what people want to believe love is, not what it really is.

So, you're saying readers don't know what love is?

write about a hooker instead. sounds more interesting.

Love is just chemicalls in your brane.

>brane

You gotta respect that though. Like, dude got fucked twice in the ass already and was like "well maybe I haven't acquired a taste for it yet" and did it a third time to confirm.

Well, in a sense, no they don't know what love is. Ask 200 people on the street what love is and you will get 200 different answers. Love is an abstract concept, and everything has their own unique conception of it.

This tbqh

OP here.

I wanna know what love is.
I want you to show me.

this is good advice
>mfw the only story i've made money on was about non-reciprocated love, and i'll never experience the reel deel ever

you are the ultimate beta

>all of the women characters were astoundingly horribly written, killing any sort of immersion
In what way?

I doubt a girl that good looking is sleeping exclusively with you though.

>whereas the vast majority of the adult population does know what it's like to be in love.

Dubious

>OP here

Fuck off

dang right into my insecurities

I want to suck on your girlfriends milky white titties

Never date smoking hot girls, not worth thew trouble.

as if I ever could :o)

It's easier than you think.

who this?

In order to write about the destruction of ultimate evil, must one have destroyed ultimate evil?

That's what they did when it came out in Italy, or they rewieved it without knowing English (it wasn't dubbed or subbed)

To add to this fellow's critique of pure kane, the film is really a representation of what it means to follow the American Dream. To grow as a citizen and bud like a rose until you are old enough to require a cane, that is what films are about. And the fact fact that it's all in black and white is a stunning reminder of the dreams of the past.

It would certainly not be a requirement to have experienced reciprocated love; depending on the story this could actually be an advantage. I can't think why someone who had never experienced love at all would want to write about love.

Some experience in that area code would help. Yes. So would going outside and avoiding places like Veeky Forums.

Why doesn't my girlfriend have big boobs :/

Only fatties as ops gf have them
the ones that are aesthetically to look at not necessarily too much

>be a complete social retard
>every time i had to write anything for school i had to try and avoid dialogue and somehow construct narratives with only implied human interaction, with no actual characters

They are nice. My GF is a size F and sucking on those titties is manna my friend.

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Every fat girl (250+) I've been with has A or B tits and wore large bras for the larger band size and fat.

what's wrong with her fingers?

hey! i get that reference

best love stories are written by virgins

once you experience something, no matter what it is, you gain new insights, perspectives, and wisdom pertaining to that experience that someone looking in from outside will never be able to gain without experiencing it for himself. So maybe some people can write great love stories without having loved, but those stories would most likely lack the small details of love (that one only notices when in love) throughout the story; how everything looks a bit different, the butterflies in the stomach, and so on.

For example, you can study boxing for years and years, but until you step in the ring you will never know the exhilaration, adrenaline, fear, and pain, that a fighter feels. Since a story, in my opinion, should make the reader feel as if he/she is really there, that lack of detail and perspective would make it really hard for a guy who's never fought to write a book about what it's like to fight.

Consequently, a guy who's never loved, would have a hard time writing a story about what it's like to love; he's never done it himself.

Just my opinion.

>whereas the vast majority of the adult population does know what it's like to be in love.

The only girl I ever loved was a calico cat with bad kidneys

Just come out as gay already

Something equal is lost in the negation of absence. Desire of love after having lost is a different desire to the one formed of pure fantasy without experience. You can't win.

No, but it makes it a whole lot easier. If you haven't been in love, you should at least understand human behavior in the context of a relationship and not try and fake the sentimental stuff that hasn't been experienced firsthand. It's possible to be convincing despite it, but it's very easy to screw it up as well.

>Felicity
I have no idea who you are, but I allready like you.

I am Butterfly.

Loved her in Flashback of a Fool and when she played Miranda from that Tempest film, and really enjoyed Rouge One.
Terribly single now, which only stokes an unreasonable fire in my chest.

One can write much of love, since is emanates from your self. Thought, relationships must be experienced in order to write them convincingly.

>I am Butterfly.

Post feet.