Almost finished with this beast...

>Recommends TV shows
>No Catullus or Horus
What a heap of shit!

Horace*

Ah, thanks user. I fucked up.

was the only one on the Veeky Forums wiki under romans :/ got any better charts? TBF it does only recommend them as asides...

>Not proceeding with the phoenicians

Don't have one, user, but there'll be another user who might have one. You'll want Catullus and Horace too (and you'll likely need to know Latin to really get them anyway) and Terence at least.

>Clavdivs
>Clav
>Divs

Robert Graves also wrote some pretty boss translations from that period. The Golden Ass is my fave. The main guy gets turned into a donkey for banging a slave girl.

Its a joke, I understand how latin works. Ive read his name about 500 times throughout the book by now. Its just everytime i look at the cover i cant help reading it as "clavdivs"

spoilers...

Does anyone have any advice on how to start teaching myself latin? I'm mostly monolingual with some understanding of Spanish and French, certainly not fluent in either. I learned both only through high school/uni classes.

hwheel hlock

If you don't learn it at school, your best bet is one of those cambridge GCSE books. They are pretty good, and do a good job with the grammer side too which you'll need - believe me.

Wheellock is easy to find online and pretty OK

Cambridge is OK but bumpy without a teacher

I personally like Shelmerdine because I like when the grammar / logic of the language is really transparent and the book doesn't leave me guessing about it for the sake of not intimidating me (I felt Cambridge did this a bit)

Use whichever you like - in my completely subjective/weird opinion, if I had to do it all over again, I'd do Shelmerdine (for the grammar) alongside Cambridge books 1-4 (for extra supplemental readings and redundancy), but that's maybe expensive

The best advice is just to take it very seriously - it's hard work and you should work hard at it - but don't take it so seriously that you never do it at all. It's not nearly as daunting as it seems, and for every thing you have to work at learning and memorising, you will later find that your brain automatically and unconsciously learned ten other things without you noticing. Eventually it all becomes reflexive, as you sediment it down by reading more and more, and reusing the concepts you've learned - it's the early phase that feels so tough because you don't quite "believe" that this stuff will ever be second nature to you.

A joke is supposed to be funny, user. How Latin 'works' is more than just replacing Us with Vs. Stultus grandus.

its not that deep senpai. cachu bant

That's right, because it's merely a splashing of beer on a bar table.

Well what are you interested in you frutex? There's a lot of Roman lit. If you like poetry, you might as well just go and learn Latin. For prose Sallus is really good, Livy is really good, Cicero is literally god-tier and don't forget his letters, Apuleius is really really good, Varro is very much worth checking out, Caesar is boring as shit but if you have a head for military strategy etc. you might get more out of him than I did, Tacitus of course, Pliny the Younger, Boethius don't forget Boethius, and more. For poetry frankly I've never read any Latin poetry before the 5th century that wasn't worth reading, even the stuff that didn't make it in the canon (Statius, Italicus, Claudian, Prudentius, etc.) is well worth reading. Oh and don't forget the church fathers, at least Lactantius and Augustine. And Plautus, definitely read Plautus, I don't know what translations are good though, go for something more modern and colloquial because Plautus was himself very colloquial. And this post could go on. You have to narrow it down a bit, and if you're just really interested in "the Romans" generally you might as well read it all because it's not an overwhelming amount of lit to begin with.

Memoirs of Hadrian

I think he thought so himself? He said he was writing it only for the money and was kind of disgusted with how much people liked the book.

>How Latin 'works' is more than just replacing Us with Vs

not when translating names you tard

That's a part of how Latin is sometimes represented when written down, not how Latin 'works'. Christ, user, don't go full pleb - it makes the rest of us look bad.

OP here again, yes i read that he only wrote it quickly for the money and the ending is starting to feel a bit a rushed but i dont think its been a problem before now. Never heard he was disgusted by how many people liked it though, source on that?

Thanks for the suggestions, will keep this comment in mind when selecting books, but gonna start the same way the above info graphic recommends i think.

also, how to take a post way too literally 101: starring user

How else should I take a poorly thought out statement, senpai? It's all a metaphor for the battle of Salamis? Get real.