Retarded and stupid food trends

Dude, what? Many things can be harmful to you in extreme amounts, that has absolutely nothing to do with allergies though

Of course not, deniers never have facts to back their stupid claims up. And they especially enjoy throwing out generalized scare terms like
>toxic in high amounts
Nearly everything is toxic in high amounts, including water.

don't forget people who are anti-GMO

You would need to drink 4 cups of olive oil to receive any type of beneficial effect from the low amounts "health benefits" it carries on a daily basis. Other than imparting flavor, it's a shit teir" health" junk food.

>It has opposite macros of olive oil which is universally agreed upon to be one of the healthiest if not the healthiest oils out there.

What amazing, impeccable logic.

I watched Moldylocks masturbate with coconut oil.

Coconut oil is great for making kettle corn

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get bent you miserable autistic misanthrope

why even bother trying to change peoples minds about shit like this trends and misconceptions about foods have probably existed since caveman times where they argue about the validity of the aphrodisiacal properties of ground sabertooth tiger penis

this thread is literally a hissy fit

Aspartame can release methanol into your body as a byproduct of metabolism. More than is safe daily if you consume it with any regularity too.

Agree with everything else

>Hating on coconut oil
>Shilling for olive oil

>Not getting those MCTs for superior brainpower

>veganism is healthy
Veganism is just a meme diet like Atkins or Paleo. Getting protein from beans isn't any healthier than getting protein from beef. Getting fat from avocados or olive oil isnt healthier than getting fat from a chicken. Self control is healthy.

>Vegan baked goods taste EXACTLY like non-vegan baked goods
No they don't.

>Diet soda will help me lose weight
No it won't. Drink unsweeted tea or something.

Unsweetened tea and diet soda are pretty much the same health wise, both much better than full sugar soda

nothing annoys me more than people who make the oversimplification of stuff like

OH THAT HAS CHLORINE IN IT SO ITS DEADLY

Its called a fucking compound.

YEAH BUT IT HAS CHLORINE

So does salt

WOULD YOU CONSUME CHLORINE

>see someone drinking a diet soda
>they are as fat as fatfucks can fat

Every fucking time. I've never once seen a person with a reasonable body mass drinking a diet soda. Ever.

>can't buy msg at grocerystore
>tfw need to wait a week for amazon to deliver it

Bullshit. It's called accent and I have never not seen it at a grocery store.

>not having an anorexic cousin you want to bone, who drinks coke zero by the liter

Uhhh ok? The logic is correct. If you only cooked with coconut oil over a long period vs olive oil you would see a difference health wise. High saturated fat (less desirable) in coconut oil vs high mono and poly unsaturated fats (omega 3, omega 6, etc) in olive oil. I don't expect you faggots to know anything about fats or proteins I only studied it for two years in while getting my degree in chemistry so I guess you guys are smarter than me.

> Getting protein from beans isn't any healthier than getting protein from beef

I mean this is basically just wrong
the issue isn't that the protein from beans is better than the protein from beef
the issue is that beef also has a bunch of saturated fat and cholesterol that comes with that protein whereas beans have virtually none of that stuff

I agree, people are also scared of "chemicals". Scary names like ascorbic acid. Oh wait that's vitamin c. Everything in the universe is made from chemicals.

The problem with getting protein from beans vs beef isn't even the extra fat or cholesterol or any of that. The problem is that beans do not contain "essential" amino acids that our bodies need to be healthy. Essential amino acids can only be found in large quantities in animal protein. Vegan diets don't contain all the essential amino acids and people that follow them often have to take supplements to get those essential proteins otherwise they can get sick.

you don't have to eat meat to get all of the essential amino acids at all though nor do you have to take supplements
if you ate nothing but beans you would but why would you ever do that?
there are a lot of foods that give you essential amino acids

I'm fortunate enough to have had few if any food allergies, but I think I am allergic to MSG. Or something in pork rinds, at any rate. I grabbed a bag on a whim a few months ago and, maybe 5 minutes after finishing them, my body got flushed, my head got light, my lips tingled, my tongue swelled, and it was difficult to breathe. Does that sound like a food allergy?

Takes one more ATP per molecule of fructose though. La de fucking da, but still.

I should have been more clear. Animal protein contains all 9 essentials. Plant based protein is often called incomplete protein because different profiles are found in different plants. Quinoa and soy have the most complete protein profile but you still have to eat a varied diet and think about what you are eating a lot more in order to get all 9 essential aminos. Lots of vegans do take supplements to easily get their aminos. People have weird diets. I for one think being vegan is fucking weird.

You get more methanol from tomato sauce

you are 4/5 but kale is just flat broccoli son

this is true but at the same time if you ate nothing but beef that would still be terrible for you even though it is a complete protein

So it really doesn't matter what diet you have it pretty much has to be varied no matter what otherwise you will run into some kind of nutritional problem

>coconut oil is bad for you because its less healthy than olive oil if you use a ridiculous among of it over the course of "a long time"

What a wasted education.

>the problem is this thing mud cookie eating impoverished people who live in caves might have an issue with

You are a fucking retard

>but at the same time if you ate nothing but beef that would still be terrible for you

No fucking shit, Sherlock. What kind of stupid crap is that to say? If you only ever eat one thing of course it's going to be terrible for you. That's why you're not supposed to just eat one thing.

Goddamn, dude. Come on.

>All sugars break down into the same constituents. There is no difference in health value in HFCS compared to cane sugar. There may be a slight difference in taste, which is a positive but comes at a higher price. The real downside of HFCS is that it is dirt cheap and is added to many cheap processed foods in high amounts unnecessarily.
This is somewhat false, fructolysis is a separate biochemical pathway from glycolysis . Fructose causes your body to create a higher ratio of triglycerides than glucose.

That being said, both cane sugar and HFCS contain both fructose and glucose... HFCS just has more fructose.

Not so much myths but some shit I hate
>I'm on a diet, only going to eat some lean cuisine
>Ah now let me have my soda and cream filled coffee

>I won't eat at Number 7 Chinese food they use MSG! Let's go to (exact clone of Number 7 Chinese food that probably uses MSG and shittier ingredients) instead!

I feel bad for you. You can't think for yourself obviously. Are you 16 years old? People use oil to cook every day. You wouldn't know because you don't cook anything for yourself. Everything in respect to diet happens over a period of time and depends on quantity. Of course you are so educated you concluded that my post meant "a ridiculous amount". Every day usage you fucking idiot.

I have no idea what you are talking about so I'm going to conclude you are a little boy or a fucking idiot. Move to reddit maybe you'll find some friends there crybaby,

I bought coconut oil for specific uses but other than that it's stored at the back of the pantry in place for Olive oil or vegetable oil.

Yes. Get an epipen or see an allergenist. Not kidding, you could die from this

Yes it's not 100% correct but if I explained everything in full detail no one would read the post. i don't think most people who believe these food myths even know what glycolysis is or know about any biological pathways and their small differences in end products. Basically there isn't enough of a difference between sugars to make HFCS the boogeyman of sugar.

Sounds like an allergy but still unlikely to be msg. There's a chance though but a very small one.

>muh made up anecdote proves my garbage opinion
>even though basic thermodynamics proves me wrong

Note that fatties who drink diet pop are also eating 3 big Macs a day

>>All sugars are the same
>>What is glycemic index

>tasteless
I've seen people complain about it being bitter or tasting 'like dirt', but never about it lacking flavor. Either you're buying shit kale or your taste buds are fried.

>tough as shit
Are you eating the lower stems or something? Maybe buying those bags of pre-cut, old kale? Trying to eat mature kale raw in a salad, rather than baby kale? It's should be no tougher than other hardy greens when prepared properly.

>No healthier than any other leafy green
Yeah the people who act like it's a 'superfood' that cures cancer are retards. It is very nutrient dense, but there's probably no reason to choose it over other greens on any health basis.

>toxic in high amounts
I guess you're referring to the goitrogens? The same thing can be said for just about any food. Oxalate in spinach, phytic acid in nuts, etc. It's irrelevant for like 99.99999% of people living in the developed world, despite all the 'health gurus' and fad dieters who obsess over antinutrients. If you don't have thyroid issues and don't do retarded fad diet shit like eating pounds of raw kale every day, there's zero reason to give it any thought.

true, if you want me to start off the post talking about how all sugars have a slightly different effect on blood sugar then I could have done that. It doesn't matter for the sake of argument though because high fructose corn syrup is actually not on the top of the glycemic index. Its actually somewhere in the middle as far as sugars go. Then we can talk about all different pathways and enzymes and this and that but the point is that its a myth that high fructose corn syrup is the devil.

my basic point about kale was that its in style right now but is no different than any other leafy green. People act like it is the end all superfood and want to put it in everything but there are superior greens like swiss chard.

Ana bitches live off the stuff.

Kale has like 3x as much potassium as swiss chard

Stupid fucking idiot, red-shirted ass.

What the fuck are you talking about

What are you talking about? Do you think its smart to choose an oil that has massive saturated fat and low levels of healthy mono and poly unsaturated fats? Or do you just like to swear and act like a little bitch with nothing to back it up?

keep eating kale then if you have a potassium deficiency.

Swiss chard is also like two vegetables in one. Crunchy stems and nice tender leafy greens. The rainbow variety is pretty too.

I'm looking for a youtube video, posted in some Veeky Forums board few days ago about several food facts, honey, fruit juice, others. the guy was scottish or irish (pronouncing honey like hooney). that's all I remember.
does anyone know which video/youtube channel it was?

Glucolysis is a tighter regulated pathway but there really isn't much difference when table sugar is 50-50 and hfcs is 40-60

What's worrying is the level of mercury in sugar processing (cbf to post source, search archive for mercury)

Only relevant to complex carbohydrates, to sweeteners it means fuckall

Potassium chloride salt can be prescribed

Something about free glutamate vs bound glutamate is part of the argument, wish I knew more. As far as cooking oils you want high omega 3 acids and low polymerization, or something. Avocado was good but evoo is fine. Kale is mostly fine.

Steve Jobs believed vinegar and figs would cure his cancer

You definitely deserve a fucking ban for this post you fucking faggot

Oh and HFCS is bad because it runs on (((Big Corn))) subsidies driving corn demand up. I mean corn isn't even a vegetable, it's a sweet starch nutritionally and is technically a grain. Corn is becoming to America what the potato was to the irish. We probably have hundreds of pounds of the shit that gets wasted or turned into ethanol for more subsidy bucks

Tell that to your dentist.

oh shit that's my ex gf
literally consumed almost 3 liters of pepsi max a day

I'm tired of the dozens of Fastfood threads and McDonald ads on this board.

>Another animo acid, a glutamine ion, bonded to a sodium ion. Very rarely is anyone allergic to it contrary to what they commonly report. Used all the time in our bodies and found in high amounts in many other common foods. Parm cheese, tomatoes, anchovies, fish sauce, seaweed etc contain high amounts of MSG.
god you are stupid, no they fucking don't. MSG is salt, its a sodium of glutamate, a natural chemical found in food, people who get reactions from msg are usually idiots or people who don't understand the reaction is that you have too much salt in your system.

I recently moved and all the Chinese take out places near me suck. They all have giant "NO MSG" signs. Literally cucked by liberals.

Do you know not all saturated fats are the same?

Are you really this dumb? Red meat has been linked to colon cancer in hundreds of studies.

>Feel like you're having an allergic reaction
>Contact Veeky Forums for support

I'll never get you people

Yesterday after reading this post I tried rubbing myself with coconut oil.
Thank you user It was nice.

Beans and rice together have all necessary amino acids.

Wheat gluten and soy sauce (I.e., seitan) is a complete protein

Soy (tofu, tempeh, tvp) is a compete protein

>cucked by liberals

Nah, they probably hired a chef who wasn't a lazyass and knew how to cook. They also realized that cucked rightwing troglodytes don't have as much money as liberals.

So, what's the least healthy food? You health nerd faggots probably can't come to a consensus on that, eh?

I'd say anything poisonous and Captain Crunch.

>The problem is that beans do not contain "essential" amino acids
yes, and this is why so many cultures figured out beas and rice or some other building bock diatary combo that works just fine

Aspartame is lethal for people with Phenylketonuria

And I don't know where this coconut oil meme is coming from, they told us to stay away from that shit all the time in the 90s

And in all of those cultures they look at you like you're fucking retarded if you request a vegan meal and refuse to eat any of the meat.

But you were implying that vegans only get protein and essential amino acids from one source, which they don't. You can easily make a vegan meal that provides all essential amino acids.

Uuh... REKT?

Like I said, very rarely. I didn't want to leave that part out because I would get replies from 100 retards saying they are allergic to it.

Yes, but that's a pretty rare condition and they would have to have a special diet anyways to make sure they don't eat any phenylalanine. I remember learning about it in class but I can't remember if it can be treated or you just have to live on a special diet forever.

Yeah kale is mostly fine, nothing wrong with it and it is healthy but it has exploded as a good trend. Probably because kale was a someone unused and cheap ingredient that chefs too advantage of in restaurants. Don't get me wrong kale can taste good if prepared right. Kale chips are really good actually. It's just not the end all superfood stay at home moms think it is.

Acai is another food fad that's pretty much pointless. Destroys the rainforest to cultivate and is pretty much on the same level as blueberries antioxidant wise and doesn't taste any better really,

Yes I actually get kind of pissed when I see Chinese places with no msg signs. I want the msg it makes everything taste better. I actually use it when I cook. Either accent or Chinese chicken soup powder.

Pretty ignorant reply imo. Have you ever heard of the French paradox? They eat tons of butter and fatty foods but still have relatively low instances of heart disease? Part of that is their high consumption of olive oil along with wine and coffee consumption. Greeks are the same way, same with Italians. Olive oil has been known for thousands of years to be very healthy.

good goy

Also it's not shit tier health food or even food in general. Olive oil can be one of the most delicious things on earth. My family lives in Greece and press their own olive oil. It's incredible delicious just with bread dipped in it with nothing else.

I forgot to mention in the main post that the gluten free diet trend is another infuriating fad. It's terrible and it's got people thinking that gluten is bad for you. If you aren't the

Those food trends have not existed since caveman times. They are a complete modern fabrication and liberal indoctrination on food culture.

Anyone who 'diets' without counting calories. Just a complete waste of time and they innevitably fail and blame genetics.

Are you normal?

The healthiest is 0w full synthetic

Bait is generally not fact supported.

Stevia has a great taste, though.

>There is no difference in health value in HFCS compared to cane sugar.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?orig_db=PubMed&cmd=Search&term="The Journal of nutrition"[Jour] AND 2008[pdat] AND Parks[author]
>Our study shows for the first time the surprising speed with which humans make body fat from fructose. Once you start the process of fat synthesis from fructose, it's hard to slow it down. The bottom line of this study is that fructose very quickly gets made into fat in your body.

>>>Coconut oil

What can you use coconut oil for besides making popcorn?

But if you are still having joint problems, I'd Recommend switching to a non-synthetic or blend.