What can we realistically do to fix obesity in the US?
As of March 2017, only 1 in 5 Americans aren't obese.
Only 1 in 8 Americans aren't overweight to some degree.
America single-handedly makes up over 63% of the worlds obese people.
The rate of obesity in American children is 14 times as high as the next highest country.
What can we do to fix this? It's a serious problem.
Dismantle capitalism
Cannibalism. I mean it.
Just import all of Africa so that the percentage of fatties falls in America.
1) Stop letting big business decide what you you can eat (Seriously, so many chemicals are banned in other countries that are prevalent in American food)
2) Decrease portion size, American's just think you're supposed to eat a lot more than you actually need too
3) Make healthier food cheaper. Increase taxes for unhealthy food, use that to decrease healthy food costs
Ban junk shit from EBT
majority of american obesity stats comes from niggers
Get rid of liberals in congress.
Stop eating shit.
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i used to care about obesity. but here i am at 152 lbs with stomach issues. while some fattie can eat w/e
let them be. processed food is the killer
>taxing/subsidizing behavior works!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. But it doesn't. In a perfect world, sure. We should definitely subsidize the cost of healthier foods, but as it is they're still more expensive and all taxing cheaper foods does is hurt the poor idiots who can't figure out how to beans and rice.
Amerrriicaa! Fuck yeah!
Comin again to save the motherfuckin day-yeah!
Prevent foodstamps from being used for ANY food items that isnt a raw, fresh ingredient.
People in line that pay with foodstamps are also always buying nothing but a cart full of frozen trash.
>Stop letting businesses conduct business
>Forcibly reduce the amount somebody can be served
>Force people to pay more for arbitrarily defined "healthier" foods
theres a reason everybody keeps leaving europe that isnt dirt poor
Unhealthy food is already taxed (At least it is in other countries, AMERICA???), and people will still tend towards cheaper food anyway, whether relatively or absolutely.
>America has 63% of worlds obese people
can I have your source for that? i tried searching for that but just got flooded with fattie stats
>just got flooded with fattie stats
lol'd
Found the fatty
all true. niggers are more likely to be on government gibs me dat and be obese
its so stupid they are allowed to buy energy drinks and junk food with ebt, they obviously dont NEED it if they waste it on that. ebt shouldnt even exist. If you really are poor and hungry, cant be on social security, cant get food from a food bank, cant get help from family or friends, or a church, that must mean the society youre in doesnt want to take care of you and shouldnt be forced to. I mean goddamn, is any able bodied person going to fucking STARVE to death because they couldnt get ebt? You dont need much food to make it through the day.
Our underclass is a bunch of obese 80-iq brown people. They're nutritionally illiterate. They think Sunny D is "healthy juice" because it's orange and in the same place at the grocery store.
Systematically, we need to make like the Australians and just take the kids from all the darkies and actually civilize them. In the meantime, drastically re-work the SNAP/EBT system to only cover rice, beans, veggies, flour, eggs, and meats. Let's make childhood obesity into a criminal negligence charge on the parents, as well.
>only 1 in 5 Americans aren't obese.
>Only 1 in 8 Americans aren't overweight to some degree.
Yeah this is complete bullshit. America might have a problem with weight, but these statistics are a crock of shit unless you're defining "obese" differently from everyone else.
Stop glorifying obesity and coddling fat people and their right to be fat.
We as a society shouldn't be afraid to tell someone that it isn't normal when they start going off about their condishuns and how it prevents them from walking to work instead of driving or taking the stairs or why they can't diet.
Nowadays being fat is becoming more and more accepted and people are afraid to call them out on it when they start bullshitting about their medical issues or about how someone called them fat earlier.
Lost on them is that weight is one of the things about your body you can control with effort.
The way things are going fat will soon be a protected class.
Ban shit like HFCS. Unfortunately the corn industry and farmers will fight it tooth and nail and too many in office are on the take.
Better early education. Expectant mothers should be grilled on this shit.
Consider adding obesity to things a parent can be cited for for neglect/endangerment/abuse.
Part of it is lack of school funding, though. Ideally, PE should be brought back, not eliminated from the curriculum. And we should absolutely ban vending machines from schools.
Michelle Obama had the right idea with healthier food in schools. However, the options served at lunch like mystery sludge just makes kids just want to throw it away and stop at McDonalds after school. This doesn't help, even if school lunch was never "good".
However there's no easy way to solve this without thinking about a hard fucking line approach to immigration what with so many kids of illegal immigrants taking resources from the system.
I've known too many people who would trade their EBT card with $100 on it for $80 in cash on hand. Though in fairness a majority of them legitimately needed the cash for rent or gas or bus fare or whatever, not soda or alcohol. Point being restrictions on EBT don't work.
That mush looks no worse than some of the pizzas they serve in school cafeteria.
"you are what you eat"
Denial is the wrong direction
So are false statistics.
Jamie Oliver tried to help Americans eat a better diet but a bunch of fatties got upset and chased him out of the schools and out of the country.
>2014
Denial is the wrong direction, insecure chubbo
Enlighten me then, give me a reputable source for the 2017 statistics.
Americans are some of the most frightened people in the world. Yesterday there was a thread about how people should only name their kids "Bob" and "Mike" because otherwise people might get offended. I wish I was making this up.
I went to the US on holiday for the first time last year. I always thought this was a meme but holy shit. Never seen so many fatties in one place in my entire life. I mean, not even fucking close.
They're EVERYWHERE. And they smell too.
>american mcdonalds.jpg
>signs written in mkhedruli script
>paper tray mat also written in mkhedruli script
I'm gonna venture the guess that this is, in fact, in Tbilisi, and that those children are Kartvelian natives and not Americans because Americans
1) seldom travel outside their safespace and
2) if they did, they wouldn't travel to such a nowhere place as Tbilisi because no one travels to Tbilisi.
Also, those stats are demonstrably false.
Nothing, Burgerfriends just can't stop eating.
Can't blame them either, everything in America is delicious cheesestuffed/friend and supersized. I went there on holidays for one month and gained like 5 kilos without even trying.
It's in Ohio.
make soft drinks illegal.
You managed to pick one of the forty-seven US states with no significant Kartvelian population and therefore no reason to have anything written in Mkhedruli script.
Try again.
Work on your reading comprehension. It's in Ohio.
>As of March 2017, only 1 in 5 Americans aren't obese.
>Only 1 in 8 Americans aren't overweight to some degree.
I can't tell if I live in an area with average sized people, I ignore fat people, or if my perception of what is overweight has been warped by how fucking huge some people are getting.
Anyway I think junk/fast food should get the cigarette treatment.
>Cartwheelian
Georgians in charge of being retarded
It - pronoun used when referring to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified
In - preposition used when referring to a location or thing that is or appears to be enclosed by, surrounded by or found somewhere amidst another thing
Ohio - one of forty-seven US states with no significant Kartvelian population.
Now, if you were referring to 'those stats' rather than 'this McDonald's,' using 'it' is the wrong choice as, again, the word refers to 'a thing' and not 'many things.' 'Those stats' is plural and therefore cannot be referring by the word 'it' so the only thing 'it' could refer to in reference to the post to which it replied is 'this McDonald's,' especially since it was noted that 'this McDonald's' is in Tbilisi (and not Ohio).
Try again.
Georgia is one of the forty-seven US states with no significant Kartvelian population. Georgians are retarded due to the longstanding American southern tradition of cousinfuckin'.
It's in Ohio, triggered fatty.
easiest way is to let the south secede
Wtf, I live in one of the 4 fattest states. No wonder Walmart is always full of whitetrash hamplanets on scooters.
HOW DARE YOU BE SO FATPHOBIC!! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING PLUS SIZED! ACCEPT YOU CURVES HONEY. BONES ARE FOR DOGS ;)
>change definitions for obese
>obese people no longer considered for any health treatment
>fatties die off
>problem solved
Kick out the fuckhead senators from the midwest forcing corn into everything in order to pretend we have a thriving agricultural sector.
Mexicans and niggers make up 85% of the obesity despite being 35% of the population. Georgians and Louisianans are on average 90 pounds overweight.
>What can we realistically do to fix obesity in the US?
Make people pay for their own health expenses.
>preventing people from getting insurance nobody uses until their 30s will stop obesity
Hello /pol/tard
>mfw I live on a planet with both a starvation and an obesity epidemic
>not knowing that Blacks are statistically more obese than Whites in America
hi
Fuck off libertarian trash.
Wrong, white trash.
Black - 47.8%
Latino - 42.5%
White - 32.6%
All adults - 34.9%
>libertarian
>Nazi
pick one
Those kids aint even American. They're fat little Turkish kids or something.
1) Soda Tax. Yes, it works, stop making excuses fatty.
2) Get HFCS out of food. Unless you can suddenly get Bannon and Trump to get Veeky Forums this isn't going to happen quickly so make it like a ten year venture to give farmers plenty of time to diversify their crop yields and let congressmen reshuffle their investments/corruption. Yes, it's shittier than letting the people responsible be shat on by the hammer of justice, but it's better than nothing.
3) Give schools more control over what they do. Lunch ladies should be making food, not just warming up garbage and selling it. Let the kids pack their gullets with chicken breasts and ghoulash if they want to, at least it's better than doing so with pizza and fries.
4) Teach nutrition in school. Make Home Ec a requirement, cut out "Current Events" or whatever garbage sociology they're trying to shove down kids' throats.
5) Fix schools in general.
6) Start moving towards Car-Free cities, start getting rid of large scale Fast Food.
You seem like a big fag stupid homo
No offense
Honestly not sure. Im just glad i live in denver. Aside from the black community people are skinny here.
This. Low income families are the worst. To get on food stamps one should be required to take a cooking class to learn to make cheap healthy meals.
>people are poor because they don't know how to cook
Or maybe it's because organized labor doesn't exist in the service industry, full time jobs with benefits have been phased out, and 3 part time jobs separated by a 40 minute bus ride leaves not a whole lot of time to cook dried beans and render stock out of ham hocks like in your fantasy world?
Also, at my local grocery store there are signs next to some of the fresh ingredients saying food stamps are not allowed to be used for this. You wouldn't know of course, since you've never set foot in a mixed income neighborhood let alone a poor one.
Huh, i guess my dad was right. I AM a pussy.
this nigga knows whats good
>meat tax
>sugar tax
>better physical education
>reform draconian building regulations
>better road education for both drivers and cyclists
>stop subsidizing house ownership
>stop subsidizing auto/gas lobby
>prioritize bike/pedestrian/public transit infrastructure
As a europoor who have lived in the US periodically, I see two solutions to the obesity problem in the US.
1. Put a higher tax on unhealthy food, and in particular, fast food restaurants. Fast food is much, much cheaper in the US compared to most places in Europe.
2. Raise the price of gas. Just like how fast food is much cheaper in the US, gas is ridiculously cheap compared to the rest of the world. I always snicker when one of my american friends complain about how expensive gas have become. Meanwhile you pay one third of the price that the rest of us pay.
This change would force americans to walk, run, and use a fucking bike to get around.
There, I fixed the amerifats.
dude i'm starving here-- food is too expensive.
don't kill me off because i'm too stupid to get job and everyone else around me is fat
How would americans get by without others cooking for them 4-7 days a week?
>What can we realistically do to fix obesity in the US?
Teach people that if you eat more calories than you expend daily you will gain weight, and vice versa to lose weight, regardless of your diet. I didn't know this until I was 20 and I lost 65lbs by the time I turned 21.
Until that happens people will always be fat because of genetics/HCFS/Transfats/big boned/some other bullshit excuse
What about people who can't/shouldn't prepare their own meals due to physical and/or mental disabilities?
Where's that? I've never seen any grocer which accepts SNAP for one fresh ingredient but not another. You must be getting it confused with WIC, because that's how WIC works.
I live in the US now, but my home country has socialised healthcare, as do most places. How are we remaining thin even though our healthcare is socialised?
Who defines what is 'junk shit?' How should 'junk shit' be defined? Half the stuff I see people buy here, I'd categorise as 'junk shit,' like Hamburger Helper and other boxed dinner kits, frozen ready meals and heavily processed foods.
I'm not purist, mind you. I enjoy convenience foods and snack foods as much as the next guy, but I don't kid myself into thinking it's anythng other than junk.
But user, taxes are literally the devil! Also why the fuck hasn't the city fixed all the potholes yet?
>suggesting children eat chicken breast and Bela Lugosi
I refuse to allow my child to eat undead Hungarians, you cad.
Poverty and working 3 jobs is not exclusive to the US. Somehow poverty has led to obesity in the US, while in the rest of the world poverty leads to starvation.
Sure, just let me ride a bike 35 miles to my job, that'll work.
A) take public transit
B) don't live 35 miles away from your job like a retard
jesus christ are you helpless
Was that a serious response to my post?
Motherfucker take the bus.
No public transit, and it's a good job, so no. You really have no idea about how spread out America is, do you?
>Somehow poverty has led to obesity in the US, while in the rest of the world poverty leads to starvation.
Not really, poor people in other countries eat whatever the market demands. In some countries that means a healthy diet, in some countries it means an unhealthy diet.
Whereas poor people in the US eat HFCS and meat slurry because food production is determined by cold-war era earmarks so shitmeat and "corn snacks" are the cheapest possible food even though that makes absolutely no sense from a free market point of view.
We have the ability to make our poor eat healthy food, we just choose not to do so because corruption gets people re-elected.
How would taking a bus help me loose weight? That has absolutely nothing to do with food. How would taking a bus help me with my 35 mile commute besides taking twice as long?
see option B, retard
Then move. If it's such a good job you surely must have money to move.
It's a good, well paying job, and I have a nice house I don't want to sell in a great area. No.
>Get HFCS out of food
It's literally just liquid sugar you soccermom retard. It doesn't magically make you fatter by some science breaking miracle. If you eat 3000 calories a day of HFCS you'll gain as much weight as eating 3000 calories of celery sticks because that's how thermodynamics work you stupid nigger
>loose
The word's lose you fucking retard.
You lose weight, loose is a term pertaining to your mother.
No, taking the bus to your job wont make you thin, but I would bet that whenever you need to go somewhere, to work or otherwise, you take the fucking car. You lazy fuck.
Yeah, just move to satisfy some autist on the internet while uprooting my family. Sound great.
Is there a source OP's numbers? I watch a lot of obesity documentaries and those numbers just seem a little farfetched.
Invest in an electric pressure cooker. Beans cooked from dry, no soaking required, in 45 minutes (5 to reach pressure, 30 to cook and 10 to depressurise).
1lb of dry beans should cost no more than $1 unless you buy fancy, gilded, truffled beans. That provides 8 meal-sized servings. If you pressure cook your dry beans plain, you can add them to dishes to have a variety of bean-based meals taking only 10 minutes to cook rather than eat the same chili for a week.
Also, multitask and make better use of your time. If you have time to check social media or post to Veeky Forums, you have time to prepare meals. For example, I make my own sausages because it's riduculously cheap ($1.19/lb v $4.99/lb for sausages of similar quality). I stuff the casings while sat in front of the TV, watching 12 Monkeys or whatever.
Also, get friends. You think I cook for myself everyday? Nah, dude. I have friends and neighbours round to share meals and, likewise, I go round theirs for dinner as well. You combine socialising with sustenance. Helps a lot with time management if not costs.
you can't have your cake and eat it too
If you want to have a nice rural life that's fine, but don't plan on being able to have your nice city job at the same time
pick one or the other
or spend 4 hours a day in bumper to bumper traffic, that's fine
just don't expect me to subsidize your destructive and degenerate lifestyle, retard
No, that means I make enough money to have the luxury of deciding when,where, and with who I will travel. You are just so mad someone can own a car and not be forced to take non-existent public transportation.
Well it looks like I made a grammatical mistake, so you win this discussion, I suppose.
Ban sugar and high fructose corn syrup.
I don't spend 4 hours a day in traffic, for starters. And you are advocating for exactly that, subsidized public transportation. Public transportation is for poors and coloreds. Which one are you?
>I sit for hours in front of the TV LARPing as a poor person
Look buddy, I like netflix binging and having a lazy weekend cooking incredibly time consuming stuff more than anyone, but that's because I got lucky and my good choices in life and good fortune put me into a nice well paid job after some hard work and study. But I wouldn't lecture a poor person on being stupid and dumb because they don't have a goddamm sausage maker from the Orvis catalog with which to grind primal cuts during their ample spare time.
Grinding your own grains and shit seems relaxing and fun to you because you probably are a student or a white collar employee who doesn't work with his hands. A poor person who works with his hands all day wants nothing to do with more manual labor at home. He wants to open a pre-packaged meal and do nothing. I know because I've worked those kinds of jobs.
>get friends
Holy shit you are condescending, does Gwynyth Paltrow post on Veeky Forums?
>No, that means I make enough money to have the luxury of deciding when,where, and with who I will travel. You are just so mad someone can own a car and not be forced to take non-existent public transportation.
Neger please. I live in one of those "socialist hell holes" in Europe. I have more than enough money to own a car. Why don't I buy one you ask? Because that I can easily just take the bus and subway to work. Not owning a car also forces me to walk, bike and run. That is the exact reason why my people will live longer than your people.
So you are advocating for a option that is non-existent for me, and I'm the retard? As usual, you have no idea about how spread out America is.
So shitskins do make up like 75% of fat fucks thanks for proving him right retard.
People who are more educated tend to live healthier lives. Seeing as how a large percentage of Americans are not college educated and are hilariously retarded it is no wonder they are also fat as shit. This is coming from an American who is disgusted by the slobs who surround him. One of my friends from swedistan told me Europeans learn critical thinking in elementary school. That is only the case in America if you went to a really expensive private school. Americans are too hedonistic and only seek fast and easy pleasure. Thinks like healthy living and educating yourself are too hard for the majority so they opt for fast food and ignorance. Which is key in a consumer driven society/economy. They make perfect sheep. Keeping people fat and uneducated is another way of keeping people insecure and fearful consumers.
healthland.time.com
Rather than your 3000 calorie hyperbole, let's go with something believable: 50 calories.
50 calories of celery is just under a half pound. Ain't nobody gonna sit around, chewing on a half pound of celery, the equivalent of half a sleeve of the stuff.
By contrast, 50 calories of HFCS-sweetened (or sugar sweetened) soft drinks is a half US cup. Or unsweetened fruit juice, for that matter. The problem isn't that HFCS in your diet magically makes you fat, it's that it's easier to consume in extracaloric quantities than are other foods. Even bacon isn't as easy. I dunno about you, but I can't really eat more than a few slices of bacon at a time. One cooked slice is 50 calories and I honestly don't think I've ever eaten more than four in one meal, even at AYCE buffets. Not because I'm avoiding it, but because I just get sick of the taste after that many, even if I like bacon on the whole.
However, I can fuck up the soda machine if it's got free refills. One large soda from most fast food joints is over 300 calories and I'm liable to get a few cups, at least, plus one for the road.
See what the issue is?
All that said, HFCS is not some bogeyman out to make you fat, it's just easier to do it that way.
You can extrapolate it isn't going to be four out of five from that you dense shit.
OT: ban hfcs, soda and serving sizes reduced, more mockery
Cook meals as opposed to heating convenient foods. That's the biggest start right there. Prepackaged convenience foods and fast food are the worst. Fast food has become the norm and it's saturated dining in the states. I'm old and can remember that going to McDonalds etc as a kid was a once in a while treat, not an every day occurrence. These days, adults and children eat there on a weekly sometimes daily basis. It's the norm to eat and drink convenience these days with no regard for health. Look at how many people start their days with a huge plastic cup full of fat and calories at Starbucks.
you're right, this is disgusting degeneracy
look at those cucks taking public transport and walking! ha I bet they live and work in the same community...
