ITT Actual American citizens dispel myths about our food propagated by jealous Europeans

Harsh, user.
Have you had a Snickers bar today?

Retarded thread but I do get peeved by the sugary bread assertion. Real bread has long outnumbered sugary white bread in the standard market, since the early 90s. At this point it's just a big dick contest over who's the multigraniest, or trying to imitate Italian breads.

No one here has any real love for McDonald's, people mostly just eat it because it's what they know

Iceland has a higher obesity rate than America

Europe BTFO

sage
>We make real cheese, too. We also have all the fancy European cheeses because we import shit

No you don't, raw milk is illegal.

Friend of the family moved to the states (Florida I think it was) and tried to hire a babysitter, asked her if she knew how to cook and she replied that she knew how to microwave shit.
Is even microwaving shit so rare among Americans? Afraid to ask about cooking what with your fast food culture

>Real bread has long outnumbered sugary white bread in the standard market, since the early 90s.
You're using the term "real bread" very loosely. Most bread sold in American supermarkets is mediocre at best. If you don't live near a good bakery finding bread that the Germans or the French would consider real bread is nearly impossible. Because most people making real bread on a commercial scale aren't selling it to supermarkets, they're selling it to upscale restaurants.

Even the upscale supermarket breads are full of all kinds of crap like sugar, mono- and diglycerides, calcium propionate and soy lecithin. Finding good bread made from nothing more than flour, yeast, water and salt is a challenge here.

Apparently it's a federal/state thing and in the end it's legal almost everywhere.

Is tipping like OP acceptable in the US? That's how I tip in France, where waiters are not slaves.

>Afraid to ask about cooking what with your fast food culture
Fast and convenience food is so cheap here than many Americans, especially poor ones do not do much if any actual cooking. Among those who do cook they tend to fall into two camps: those who buy ingredients and cook with them, and those who go for more of a semi-homemade direction, using various canned products and premade mixes for convenience's sake. A lot of folks are in that latter camp because there are a lot of harried parents who want to throw something together to feed in kids without more than a half hour spent doing do. Sadly. Our supermarkets are loaded with heat and eat shit.

What compelled you to type out all this bait?

No european country is higher than the 12th fattest nation, the US. Iceland isn't even in the top 29. Of course you won't even recognize the names of the top 11, and will probably cower in fright when you heard foreign sounding syllables of them. Keep worshiping what's bad about our country - it's the only way to improve!

worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-in-the-world.html

Sprouts is the place I mentioned with 4 ingredient bread. There's two right by my house. Good selection of bread, beer, and cheese. I only mention these because they're the foods that Europeans mention a lot.
Anyway, hit up Sprouts if you live by one and want good, wholesome bread.

>Fast and convenience food is so cheap here than many Americans
Fast and convenience food I thought is by definition cheap and accessible. I was just surprised that a person would ever think it necessary to mention that they knew how to use a microwave.

On a second thought, on a trip to Netherlands I found out that their national food is french fries, which they buy in paper cones on the street and have them for lunch, so I just might throw Americans a deep fried bone.

No, you literally eat shit. Not quite as bad as the Britbongs, but close....And in greater quantity, hence your obeseness.

I'm lucky enough to be married to a baker who mills her own grain and runs a small artisan baking business. I'm fucking spoiled as hell. Even bread from a good bakery is a couple steps down from the bread I just have lying around the house. If the supermarket were my only source for bread I'd just stop eating bread altogether.

>Europeans jealous
No one gives a shit tinytears.

>Netherlands
As an American who has been lucky enough to travel through most of Europe this is one of the few places where the food was a let down even by American standards. Even English food is better.

>OP tries to add tipping in there like it's an acceptable thing

It's not just a small niche, if you go to any city of reasonable size in the US you can find good quality local food. There are only a handful of cities and thousands of cletus bumpkin towns, sure, but the population is like 90% in the cities. So most people have access to good stuff here.

Don't eat hot food from a vending machine.

Shitty food is cheaper than good food or the ingredients to make it, nobody knows how to budget, there's stores everywhere, food culture, many fats were raised that way since an early age for multiple reasons and know no other life

Non-whites mostly. The white American obesity rate is in line with the rest of the Western world

Oh yeah. You learn that FEBO sucks on day one.

I don't care what a stupid ass European thinks. You're assuming they are rational anyways, they aren't. So fuck em.

kek, shitposting Europeans are pathetic. it's so obvious that they're seething and angry about something else.

You're in denial. Obesity rate for whites in US is 32.6, total adults in US is 34.9 putting us at 12th fattest. If you use only the white only percent of 32.6 it puts us at 19th. Learn not to be ignorant.

The fact that you think European cheese is "fancy" undermines your entire argument.

>propagated by jealous Europeans.
>caring about what jealous Europeans think

>you can only find good food if you're not a flyover
Retarded meme.
Sure you're probably not gunna find a great vietnamese place in Troy Alabama, but implying you can't find quality ingredients or restaurants just because it's not NYC is ridiculous.

>I wanna get trashed tonight
>Lets see...$9 for a 6 pack of high quality craft beer
>Or $6 for a 6 pack of tallboy bud
>Bud it is!
And now you know why so much of it gets sold.

HFCS. Seriously soda is like $1 for a 2L and you don't any sense of hunger satisfaction for it, so people chug it like water.

It's because we made white bread. That's literally all it is.

We havent known how to cook since WW2, honestly. All the women were working jobs because all the men were out getting shot, so they didn't learn to cook. Then the men came home and made them wives and they would make meatloaf and casseroles every day. Then convenience food came out and jello and shit, and we got real fucking weird with it because we still didnt know how to cook but goddamn we were sick of meatloaf. Fast forward to now and eating nothing but convenience food is the norm because it's gotten so good and cheap.

>Most bread sold in American supermarkets is mediocre at best
The prepackaged and sliced stuff, yes.
Almost every supermarket in America has a dedicated bakery where you can buy freshly made, high quality bread though, so that's a moot point.

>Is tipping like OP acceptable in the US?
I wouldn't do it at a place you regularly patronize because you'll get a rep with the staff and get shit service, because they're whiny and entitled. It's acceptable at higher-end establishments though.

>just a generalization.
Reality check

>2009-2010
>35.9
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#Caucasian
>The obesity rate for Caucasian adults (over 30 BMI) in the US in 2010 was 26.8%

>35.9% and rising
>le cherry picked white people
>Still 26.9%
>this was seven years ago
>gor both numbers
You do the math

And for our progenitor, the United Kingdom, it's 28.1%.

USA. Sub par everything and is racist as fuck. Never go. Come to Canada instead.

What's with the spike between 1980 and 2000

>Almost every supermarket in America has a dedicated bakery where you can buy freshly made, high quality bread though
This is exactly what I was talking about. Our standards for bread are so low that the shitty bread the supermarket's in house bakery turns out seems like it's high quality by comparison. It isn't.

Good answers, that give a solid picture of American obesity when taken together.

Shit answers from cucks.

The switch from Sugar to HFCS as a result of corn subsidies.

>Combining data from 2013 through 2015, non-Hispanic blacks had the highest prevalence of self-reported obesity (38.1%), followed by Hispanics (31.9%) and non-Hispanic whites (27.6%).
>non-hispanic whites 27.6%

This Plus everybody still thought that fat was bad. Many products had fat replaced with sugar and were then marketed as ''healthy low fat''.

A few factors coming together.
First is a public education system that basically panders to the lowest common denominator, and curriculums decided by elected officials. The end result is a nutritionally innumerate underclass.
We also have really cheap staples, and a long-standind tradition of excess since the turn of the century. People got off the boats and went "holy crap everything's way cheaper than in the Old Country" and went bonkers, but were still stingy and made their kids clean their plates. Huge servings became commonplace, even after everyone wasn't working in a field for 12 hours a day.
So people don't know what calories are, they just know they like huge meals, and then the government helps those shit decisions by letting the "poor" blow their food stamps on family size chips and other shit.
Also, it's way more socially acceptable. People who would get shit on in fitter societies when they're younger get protected by their hammy parents.

>self-reported
It's mostly just poors. Poor people are stupid and don't understand nutrition.

Raw milk is illegal to sell commercially, you stupid nigger. And for obvious reasons. You can still process shit from it since you're not selling the milk but the final product.

You fuckers are pathetic attempting to massage data to deny our horrid levels of adult obesity among every american ethnic group except Asians. You don't improve our nation by ignoring problems and pretending whites aren't fat as fuck, too. Use real data fuckstick. 2016 data from the CDC:

"Non-Hispanic blacks have the highest age-adjusted rates of obesity (48.1%) followed by Hispanics (42.5%), non-Hispanic whites (34.5%), and non-Hispanic Asians (11.7%)."

cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

>filling a sink with shit-tier mac & cheese
The quality and quantity both horrify me.

>ITT Actual American citizens

'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!

>'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!

The Lipid Hypothesis, jump started with a falsified study, that linked cholesterol with heart disease was believed to be fact as of the early 1980s. Thus everyone started eating less fats and thus ate more carbs.

And then in 1998 the NIH decided that BMI was how we determine obesity: 25+ being overweight and 30+ being obese. Some charts will use the old definitions for earlier years, which results in bigger jumps.

>Huge servings became commonplace, even after everyone wasn't working in a field for 12 hours a day.
This is part of it for sure, especially in places that were agricultural at the start of last century. Huge meals were part of the culture there for generations, which was completely fitting for people who burned up to 4000 calories in a day. Here's a quote from an Indiana homemaker in the early part of the century:

"A pie was a pie and we ate it and didn't think a thing about it. We worked, we didn't have to worry about calories."

When that changed but the relationship to food didn't you get obesity.

>'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!

Are Americans really this easily upset?

>'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!!

>Are Americans really this easily upset?

FUCK YOU RACIST PIECE OF SHIT EUROPOOR!!! STOP POSTING IN MY COUNTRY!

>'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!

LOOK EVERYBODY I GOT ONE

A bread that costs $0.57 in Europe will be at least $3 in the U.S.

Sprouts sourdough is shit though. I had it shilled to me before as the best thing ever, but it was flat out disappointment. On top of that, it's not baked fresh but brought in from somewhere and held in a fucking freezer, so it always ends up with soggy patches and prone to mold from condensation after they put it on shelves.

1.5 year in Murica and still haven't found one easily available good quality bread, and trust me I did search high and low. Too bad I don't really have time to bake my own.

t. Polak in Murica

>1.5 year in Murica and still haven't found one easily available good quality bread
You usually want to look for small family owned places. We get ours from a greek deli a few blocks away.

Why are you buying bread of all things from Greeks? Greeks wouldn't kow how to bake proper bread if their life depended on it!

t. German

>Are Americans annoyed when Europeans post four or more threads every single day on Veeky Forums just to shit on them?

I pass by a in and out burger every day and I never had one

Might as well get one to have the experience. For fast food, it's very good.

>A bread that costs $0.57 in Europe
Is a very very small bread

A normal size baguette. The same size as $3 baguette in the U.S.

Sometimes it's closer to $1. $1.50 for sourdough.

>le watery American beer meme
It's not our fault that you ignored all of our delicious craft beer and bought fucking Bud Light.
>le sugary processed American bread meme
Once again, you bought the wrong bread. Go to the bakery (most supermarkets have one) and get a freshly baked loaf. Whole OR pre-sliced. I know for sure that one local market's bread uses only flour, water, yeast, and salt.
>muh plastic cheese meme
We make real cheese, too. We also have all the fancy European cheeses because we import shit. Who'd've thunk it?

The problem with all of your responses is that you are acting as if americans actually use the high quality alternatives presented. Yeah you have high quality bread, cheese and beer... but 95% of the time americans eat the low quality shit, who cares if there are a few gems in a sea of shit? As for the tipping thing... just stop, I couldn't give a fuck if you think good service deserves additional payment, waiters shouldn't have to be subsidized by the customer, its the employers job to pay their staff, end of fucking story.

America does a lot of things well, but food really isn't one of them.

>The same size as a $3 baguette in the US
The fuck do you live that you're buying $3 baguettes, they cost a buck at most in my experience, normally more like 50 cents.

>Waiters work hard, they deserve it.
And yet they don't get paid a living wage and have to rely on gratuity.
Lol okay.

>thinks a baguette is a walmart bakery "french" loaf.

*crickets*
flags when

Cream of mushroom soup and tater tots are not quality ingredients

>MUH MICROBREWERIES

>Provides proof that burgers are lardasses.
>Kek hehe nice shitpost.

someone is drunk

also, as an educted european i agree with your "myths list" in general without even reading it.
t. man

you wouldn't feel a need to overeat if the land was really free.

that was rude. posting facts isn't fair.

Everyone makes bread and cheese, sweetie.

So all of the high quality options don't count because they're not the unanimous choice regardless of one's location, financial status and personal taste.

This is some phenomenal retard logic, there's some pretty shitty food and ingredients in poundland but you don't see me claiming all of Europe eats only from there because of it, and even if that was the case, it wouldn't change the fact that the option still exists.

Non westaboo american here.
>watery american beer
Real. The most popular beers in america are light beers as a holdover from prohibition -- americans tend to think light beers are less alcoholic or something. The only people who drink craft beers are hipsters, and they drink IPAs with maximum bitterness for beer peen cred or something.

>sugary processed american bread
Real. Actual bakeries are a more recent development again caused by hipsters. Previously most bread was shit like wonder bread and other things that shipped easily to supermarkets across the country.

>plastic cheese meme
You didn't even bother negating this. America has barely any cheese of it's own to speak of. Most of it is either imported, from a select few hipster creameries, or is some kind of weak ass cheddar. And plus, the meme is that Americans only /like/ plastic cheese, which is true -- its all they grew up eating. Eating blue cheese is considered weird unless you put it in a dressing or some shit.

>what about tipping?
Unless you're an asshole you still need to tip in a lot of places. Most places pay their employees minimum wage and expect them to make up the rest through tips.

>no one knows how to cook
Accurate. Except for a handful of nerds, no one knows how to cook, or is afraid of stoves. From what I can tell, some more people "learn" how to cook by mixing shit together when they get to college.

Generally speaking, parents don't know how to cook, so they buy their kids takeout. Fastfood is the cheapest and fastest option when you're coming home from a 9-5 and both parents are working. Alternatively they get microwave dinners. As a result, kids are used to eating fastfood. Fastfood is also highly addictive because it activates the sugar, salt, and grease centres of your brain. As a result of this mess, everyone is obese. Now on top of this, SJWs want to push fat acceptance to make it "okay" to be morbidly obese so it will become even more of the norm

you're a moron. Macrobrews are the most popular by a long shot but micros are not limited to hipsters or IPAs at all.

OBSESSED

>OMG EUROPEANS DON'T THINK WE'RE AMAZING
>I BETTER GO TO Veeky Forums AND CORRECT THEM!

Why do you think people care about you?

Maybe my opinions are a bit biased because I'm a college student, but its all I've seen.

>and they drink IPAs with maximum bitterness for beer peen cred or something.

Yes, hipsters totally invented enjoying bitter drinks, and nothing bitter existed before IPAs, like Campari, Fernet, Lillet, tonic water...Angostura BITTERS

>Artisan baking and cheesemaking, ancient professions practiced the world over are somehow hipster
>HERP DERP SJW BOOGIEMEN KEK NORMIES REEEEEEEEE

Fuck off kid

>americans tend to think light beers are less alcoholic or something
Because typically they are. The most popular beers sold here are called pisswater for a reason, they range from 3-4.5% ABV whereas most craft beers are 5.5%+ typically.

>The only people who drink craft beers are hipsters
Where the fuck do you live, North Dakota?

> Yes, hipsters totally invented enjoying bitter drinks, and nothing bitter existed before IPAs, like Campari, Fernet, Lillet, tonic water...Angostura BITTERS
Those are European. Campari and Fernet are Italian. Tonic water was invented as a malaria remedy in Europe. Angostura bitters also originate in Europe.

> >Artisan baking and cheesemaking, ancient professions practiced the world over are somehow hipster
> Fuck off kid
They're hipster in america.

This thread is about america, not Europe, are you confused?

Why are you O B S E S S E D?

> >The only people who drink craft beers are hipsters
> Where the fuck do you live, North Dakota?
California actually.
That said, I'm in college so people usually drink the cheapest shit they can find.

Yeah once you turn 21 you can casually order and drink a pint of something good.
Also you're an idiot.

My only point was that historically bitter has been a flavor people drank for enjoyment and it's nothing new and not something hipsters invented. Also, what are Americans but Europeans that were butthurt about having to pay taxes and not being able to force puritanism on people?