How ethical is it to pay entirely in change at fast food places by handing piles of coins to the cashier and having...

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Weebs need gassing.

I imagine they would sabotage your food the next time you got a meal there.

>OMG wtf he's paying in cash??
>Who the hell does he think he is ?? like OH MY GOD

Nope. It's legal tender for *debts*. A store can set any rule for a purchase you haven't made yet, but has to take any legal tender for a debt you've already incurred, like a waited table where you pay after eating.

When people do this I count even slower just so people get pissed
If they ask me to hurry up or make some kind of pissed off noise I start all over
Take that shit to the bank goddamn

based anons

Yeah, I'm sure you're gonna do that when you have 10 people in line behind me.

I'm too drunk right now yo findbthe -alck/ thread lol

Oh you bet I will nigga
Complain to my boss? Put those complaints up your ass I don't give a fuck

whatever makes you feel better about your minimum wage dead end job kid

i can't believe you're larping about being mean to customers when their time are obviously worth more than yours since they're paying for the convenience of eating fast food rather than eating home prepared shit on their lunch break

Here you go

That's not strictly true.

In many countries coinage and sometimes certain coinage are not considered legal tender if the purchase is over a certain amount. It's at the sellers discretion to accept the coins.

It's a dick move, that's for sure. At least you could roll them into neat little even stacks.

You're an asshole

Anybody but a protected class (race, religion, national origin) can be refused service for any reason. They don't have to take your pennies. But the OP is a troll anyways, so who cares.

Also, states have passed laws AGAINST refusing service to LGBT people. The default is that they can be discriminated against.

Hmm, it's even worse than that. According to the US Treasury FAQ site, it's a legal "offer" of payment for debts, services or goods, but a public business has the right to refuse it and demand another form of payment. Who woulda' thought I could learn something on a Sicilian counterfeit plate engraving board.

treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx

>The default is that they can be discriminated against

Then why did MS, for example, pass a "religious freedom" law recently that allows business owners to deny service to LGBT if it's the default that a business owner can already do that?

Because conservative lawmakers want to virtue signal to their base.

>admit to spending $7 in one trip to starbucks
>immediately afterwards, shit on people for going to starbucks

top kek

unless you have that specifically posted, you just violated the legal tender law.

>Because conservative lawmakers want to virtue signal to their base

They hardly need to do that in MS since they haven't even had anyone further left than a Bush style conservative run for office except in the "metropolitan" areas where it was impossible to nullify the nignog vote by gerrymandering.

theres this old crazy hobo dude that walks around town everyday in a full santa outfit year round (110 degrees and rising right now) with an empty shopping cart.
I got a 5gallon water jug thats about half full with pennies... i bet i could get him to wheel that jug into starbucks in his shopping cart and buy a bunch of small coffees in the midle of the 8AM rush. i guarantee he smells like shit too!
think $20 and a couple tacos would be enough to get him on board...?

You're mY hero op

Pathetic wagecuck

You could at least count them before hand and separate them into nice stacks of 25 or so cents as not to be a complete dick.

Sure they do. You think that they just don't care once they have a solid electoral hold?

I just send idiots like OP to WalMart across the street so he can consolidate his coins. It's so nice to have that 'We deserve the right to refuse anyone' sign.

You weren't in the wrong. Fuck customers of fast food eateries.

This never happened. They'd decline the sale because the time spent counting the money would cost them more money than they'd be making on that sale.

Wrong

I hope you end up homeless you unempathetic shit. A lot of those guys are vets who fell in lockstep line with the (((patriotism))) to risk death and maming to protect the top 5%. And they were fucking discarded as soon as they showed up exhibiting the symptoms of the disease of late stage capitalism.

Don't worry bud next time you bring your change in ill make sure to let everyone know they should go to another line since its going to take a while

>it was the middle of the addict rush
youre my hero OP

Fuck off clean shirt, i'd get out of my way to annoy cunts like you that think they're superior to others.

You're an asshat but we should really be angry at the fact that our currency system even allows asshats like you to exist.

It doesn't. This isn't a real scenario as your order would get cancelled if you refuse to pay in a reasonable way.

Those 10 people are going to beat the shit out of you.

>Some bitch gave me $10 in nickles and dimes for gas.
>They pumped 2 bucks and came back for change.
>Gave her back $8 in her nickles and dimes.
>A customer laughed at her.

False. You can refuse payment. Establishments are allowed to refuse service at their discretion so long as it's not racially motivated. I refuse coin payments on a regular basis unless it's bank wrapped

To make it more difficult for laws which would counter that to pass. For someone to be punished for not serving gays the law would have to be repealed. It's basically a proactive move to establish a fallback when the issue inevitably comes up.

You can refuse payment but not debt. If the customer already has the product then you either need to accept payment or let them go. Obviously this only applies for things you consume, holding a lamp isn't the same as taking a few sips from a frappuchino.

There's one video where a guy gets his car from an impound lot with pennies, which they legally need to accept since they're hitting him with a debt.

Yes but no place of business should be allowing their employees to hand over merchandise without payment. Even then if they were to actually try and take you to court any judge that isn't a cunt is going throw your ass out with a frivolous lawsuit charge

Bank loan?
Plumber service?
Restaurant (full service)
Water bill?
Car repair?
Tax bill?

All debts incurred due to receipt of service or product received prior to payment.

Very common. Thus the specification of legal tender for all debts.

Cont.

There simply is no FEDERAL statute that requires businesses to accept coins/currency as a form of payment. There may be state requirements.

Starbucks would be perfectly justified in refusing his coin money in large amounts. They could demand payment in cowrie shells as long as they demand it from everyone, equally. The fact that the Dept. of the Treasury would fine the crap out of them for trespass of Federal prerogative probably discourages that.

Still, OP is a dick.

Fast food slave here.
It depends on how many people are waiting. If it's a huge crowd or a long line, then it's a dick move. If it's quiet, no one will care. Also, it's more your problem than the cashiers. I don't really give a shit if things are moving slowly, but the other customers will start giving you shit for sure and I won't defend you.

You can refuse service to niggers if you want. You just can't say that's the reason you're doing it. Thankfully niggers tend to give you enough reasons to refuse them service anyway

Based

Dude, if you're working fast food you already hate your job and your life, why make it worse for them?

Just go to some self service machine at a supermarket to get rid of change

Because fuck capitalist pigs.

its fine, is money is it not?

[x] Starbucks
[x] Anime
[x] Holding up the line
[x] Bashing coffee
[x] Everyone is stupid except me
[x] Pretending to be oblivious to social mores
[x] Beating up on minimum wagers

Pretty good combo, but you missed an opportunity to bring up

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[ ] Flyovers
[ ] Race baiting
[ ] Europe vs America
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[ ] Tipping

>supermarket
>go to self checkout
>buy a $1 coffee or something
>dump $14 of change into the machine
>get a $10 bill and 3 singles back as change

Alternatively, go to a bank.

I personally wouldn't care if someone payed in all coins. I'm getting out of there at the same time regardless of what shit the customers do to me or how many customers I serve.
I wouldn't care if I had to count a few coins

where i live legal tender for loose change has an upper limit
i believe it coincides with a roll, so like $25 in quarters, but i'm not entirely sure

I drink at this bar where I'm well known for paying with coins. I just put a pile of coins on the bar and the bar staff know it's mine, when I order a beer they just take the amount out of the pile of coins and put it in the register.
The manager likes it because they eventually run out of coins if people keep paying with notes.

>Work in an air conditioned kiosk.
>Customers are outside in the summer heat, generally mad.
>Some fuckhead shows up and dumps a literal bag of coins in my money tray to pay for gas.
>Start to count coins, slowly.
>Hear people outside getting fucking pissed at this douche for making them wait out in the 100+ heat while I count coins in my 65 degree kiosk trying not to smile.
>The douche gets mad and asks me if i'm done yet.
>Look up at him.
>Look back at the change.
>Start over again.
>People are starting to crowd around the window to see what is going on, see all the change and soon there is a mob of pissed off people at this dude.
>Input the amount so he can go pump.
>Short change him a dime.

>finally done sir sorry about that
> wait I think I counted wrong better start all over again just to be sure

Every tuesday I goto Taco Johns strictly with my change.....its gotten to the point I know what 3 hardshell tacos total and hand it to the same girl behind the counter.....she basically doesnt even count it anymore......that cute blondie

Money is money.

Longtime cashier. If it takes an asshole three minutes to count $7 in pennies it's his fault for being an asshole.

I mean it sucks, but it's not even counting it when you give it to me that sucks, it's storing that change and sorting it all later. But it's money and the cashier has an easy enough job as it is.

Just give them the money in stacks.
"Here's 5 stacks of 10 plus 2 extra"
If they still start counting them then you need to stop going to a restaurant which employs retards.

>How ethical
If you have to ask, it's not ethical.

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

Also, I don't know about where you are, but here the stores will generally keep stacks of 50 or 100 in special paper tubes which they just crack open into the register if they need more change.
I personally just request some of those tubes every once in a while and fill them up with change, they have both a set length and the weight of a full tube written on them so they can just check either of them if they want to make sure you're not trying to bamboozle them.

They actually love the coins here because it saves them from getting company money and going to the bank to trade for coins.
A good idea is to get coin rolls free at the bank and wrap your shit up, most cashiers won't recount it.

Weighing systems don't work because of material changes in coins. I would use calipers myself to measure the coin stacks because fuck paying coinstar 14% and fuck counting.

>Weighing systems don't work because of material changes in coins.
Only if you live in one of those stupid places which keep the old coins valid after introducing the changed ones.
Someplace like the United states probably does that.

Yeah a couple of years they replaced penny centers with tin and every 4th penny weighs differently. Some half dollars have silver 90% or 40%, some don't.
They missed the opportunity for a great shortcut weighing tons of coins by scale when they changed materials.

They missed another opportunity when people were melting down pennies for the raw metals because they were worth more as raw copper than their face value, taking the penny out of circulation voluntarily, but they cracked down on that and doubled down on penny production out of a shit unsellable alloy.

I'm not sure why this surprises people.

Yeah, it's easy parrot "but pennies cost more than 1 cent to make". But that's not the point. They are meant to be a medium of exchange. They can be used many times, not just the one-time value that is relevant when comparing its cash value to its precious metals content.

because pennies don't pay for anything, you need 100 of them to complete a dollar and that barely buys you anything these days,
it's no so much the amount, it's the sheer weight

Tbh op I worked as a cashier for about a year, never had anyone hit me with anything like that, but it'd be largely irrelevant if they did. Takes no time at all unless it's 700 pennies or something. If it was super busy, I'd have just bought you the food, most foodcucks get a free meal every day and I don't eat fastfood garbage so what do I care? Anybody asks, you're my uncle.

I just unload my change at the self checkouts because I'm a pussy. I applaud your efforts though. Fuck normalfags.

>100 pennies for a dollar.
What.
Why on earth are they still a thing?
The literal lowest value you can have in coins here in Equals about 1/7 or 1/8 of a dollar.

>Here in Equals.
I was going to say Sweden, I'm pretty sure I wrote that down.
What is happening to me, I'm making so many mistakes with typing today.

I'm not gonna accept your coins until you count them out in front of me.

Fuck you and homeless faggots who do this.

Fast food places almost universally have meat options on the menu.

Two wrongs may not make a right, but they do not make a new wrong. Making life harder to those who support slavery and murder of innocent animals is not immoral.
The less meat they sell, the less they contribute to the degenerate corpse fetish.

Starbucks has coin counting machines I'm pretty sure.

This, it's a thing in the UK. It pisses off old people a lot, kek. Not sure about the rest of europe though

I'd say they would be pretty stupid not to accept your money

do they even have to accept it?
even in yurop the cashier doesn't have to accept more than 20 coins (or something like that)

In my country we use coins a lot because the smallest money that's paper is equivalent to about $10 USD. People also tend to make exact change a lot just to get rid of smaller coins.

It's never an issue because we actually teach our children how to count.

I feel embarrassed for all the people saying there's anything wrong with paying in change. Maybe you should have payed attention in maths.

Funny how what's moral always seems to be the same thing as whatever makes things easiest for minimum wage workers.

I see right through their propaganda scheme of labelling anyone who forces them to do their job as an asshole. I leave my cart in the parking lot and my popcorn on the floor and I don't tip and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Ya
Nah
You're just a cunt

t. someone who never had any physical job

imagine being so much of a pretzel twist that you only have empathy for people if you were once in their position.

that's called self-interest. You don't have the presence of mind to put yourself in someone's shoes metaphorically, you have to have literally worn them. Truly pathetic sensibilities.

That would be sympathy not empathy.

sympathy and self interest go hand in hand

>muh capitalism
this is a cooking board you retard
go back to if you want to shit post about your shitty ideology so badly

>veganshits

>paid $7 for coffee
>stood in line during addict rush to buy coffee

OP you're no better than they are you're just an asshole

>imagine being so much of a pretzel twist that you only have empathy for people if you were once in their position.
Do your deficits in reading comprehension come with your lack of empathy or is it a totally separate effect?

how ethical is it to eat dragon tail