What did pre-christian europeans eat?

what did pre-christian europeans eat?

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They didn't eat the body of Christ, I can tell you that

Idk google it

Meat, fish, root vegetables, mushrooms, herbs, native grains.....

I dunno. Grains, legumes, meats, fruits, dairy, root veggies I guess.

Levanated bread

Christians.

Europe is a big place, probably depends a lot on which part of it. Pre-Christian Italians(aka Romans) ate a lot of different stuff because they were rich as fuck and had trade routes to most of their known world, but definitely didn't have noodles or tomatoes since both of those things made their way to Europe after Christianity caught on. I'm not sure about northern Europe, but based on the climate and viking stereotypes I'd bet they ate a lot of fish, game, root vegetables, and cheese. Not potatoes though because again those didn't arrive in Europe until after Christianity came about. Actually I know more about what pre-Christian Europeans DIDN'T eat.

>tomatoes
>potatoes
>noodles
>peppers of any kind(sorry Hungary, your paprika didn't happen until after Christianity)
>maize
Gonna stop the list to talk about maize. We cal it corn here in America, but this is a relatively recent evolution in language. Maize is a Native word for it that comes from either the Mayans or Inca, I forgot which. The first English-speaking settlers called it "Indian corn" because back then corn was a generic word for all types of grain. Eventually it was shortened to just corn, and Americans started using the more specific words for each type of grain as a result. Oh by the way this means that polenta wasn't always made from maize in Italy.
>turkey
>allspice
>tobacco
>chocolate
>cashews
>pineapples
>peanuts
>pecans
>squash
>vanilla
>avocado
>pinto, lima, and kidney beans
Probably a lot more I'm forgetting.

Gruels, lots and lots of gruels.
All the meat&fish they could get, foraged berries/mushrooms when the season was right.

All these underrated comments aside, it would have varied greatly by region, obviously.

But it's fair to say that most people would have eaten grains, whatever fruit and vegetable were local, seafood in coastal areas and game inland. With the exclusion of stuff from the new world as said a lot of traditional diets can be seen in the food they still eat.

add carrots to that list. they come from central asia and took a long time to find their way...
the romans did have pastinacs, and there are proto-carrots dating way back in germany/switzerland, but proper carrots, of which you'd eat the root and not the leaves, were introduced to spain as late as the 10th century

Well I learned something today. However, I did hear that the varieties of carrots popular in Medieval Europe were purple rather than orange.

Parsnips before potatoes came.

Parsnips are underrated

what the fuck is a gruel?

Oatmeal/porridge

Buckwheat, barley, millet(milo), semolina (though I'm not as sure on that one as its made from a wheat) were huge in europe/russia before the potato arrived and still are a staple in russian cuisine today
oh, dude, there are loads of carrots, just wikipedia them. huge array of colours. sadly not all of them are easy to come by, for example I'm on the everlasting quest to find yellow carrots for pilaf (плoв) which you get no problem in asia, but are a bitch to find in europe.

so if i want to make this ancient gruel do i just get some oatemal from the store and add too much water???

make risotto. risotto is the book defenition of a gruel. (apart from aborio not being a native corn in europe)

Anyone have a recipe for Spartan black broth?

Ham, pigs blood, salt and vinegar.
Boil it up and reduce it down.
If you subbed out the vinegar for oats it's essentially black pudding in liquid form.
Sort of.........

Horse, actually, especially when sacrificing to Odin. Boar as well.
youtube.com/watch?v=jb8DM7rodZk

google schwarzsauer, seems to be pretty much the same only I know for a fact the german recipe is allright. not great, not horrible, if you can get over the fact its bloodsoup, its okay.

>muh noble savage cuisine

>muh projecting
its a genuine question, what the fuck is your problem. don't answer, its a rhetoric question. here's your (you)

they all liked the mcdonalds dollar menu.

They also ate a shitton of animals considered inedible by midern standards, like dormice, strange fish, all kinds if birds, etc. Gruals were the real staple for the lower classes. Honey was obviously much more often used.

Olives, Olive Oil
Grapes, Wine
Pomegranates, apples, pears
Wheatflour bread, cake (flour + egg + honey/fruit)
Buckwheat bread
Barlet, beer
Oats
Cheese, Milk, Butter, Cream
Honey, mead
Venison, pork, bacon, pickled pork, beef, veal, mutton, lamb, rabbit, hare, chicken, pheasant, partridge, fish, fish sauce
Lettuce, cabbage, spinach, onions, garlic, mushrooms, asparagus, carrots, peas
Basil, rosemary, sage, thyme, parsley, rose petals, mustard seeds, mint
Hazelnuts, walnuts, chestnuts

Not native to Europe before Christian era:
Potatoes, rice, lemons, oranges, peanuts, turkeys, corn/maize, tomatoes, pepper, ginger, chocolate, coffee, tea, soybeans, artichokes, paprika/bell peppers

gruals?

>Honey was obviously much more often used
you mean as a sweetener? onions and beets more so; apiculture was spread around the mediteranian since the bronze age, that I know for a fact, but I haven't heard about any (recorded) in the north/east europe until after christiany became a thing.

but what did google eat?

What about mead though? That's Beowulf's drink of choice. Maybe they made it from wild honey?

Smaller tech start-ups.

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/m%C3%A9d%CA%B0u

They had a reconstructable word for it circa 1000BC at the latest, so maybe they were finding honey without cultivating it, kind of like with truffles.

Pagans didn't practice cannibalism, and human sacrifice was just the capital punishment of the day. Literacy was poor in the entire world at the time. Germanic peoples used runes that were technically a language, but they were mostly used for magical purposes. There are surviving inscriptions though. Christianity was arguably a net negative (although I'm not going to argue with you about it on a food board) and Romans were notorious slavers. They had so many slaves they made their slaves kill each other in an arena for fun.
There's a spell from England to make bees not swarm.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_a_Swarm_of_Bees
Mead was a common drink among northern Pagans and might be the oldest fermented beverage in general.
norse-mythology.org/tales/the-mead-of-poetry/

hey, I'm not saying they didn't have honey. People have been forageing it since recorded history (cavemen times). I was mearly stating that while I know of examples of man-made beehives (aka beekeping) were found all around the mediteranian as far back as 7000bc , *I* didn't heard of any found in the colder climates. and judging by how much onions were used as a sweetener in medeval english cookbooks, I'd say honey and mead were not as cheap and readily available as viking mythos have us believe.

avocado toast

>apiculture was spread around the mediteranian since the bronze age, that I know for a fact, but I haven't heard about any (recorded) in the north/east europe until after christiany became a thing.
You don't have to practice apiculture to harvest honey and the Bell Beaker culture had mead ~5000 years ago.

A++

When, where, and what class? "Pre-Christian Europeans" is rather broad.

>what did pre-christian europeans eat?
You might enjoy clicking around in this scholarly website:
foodtimeline.org/

Whatever they want, as long as it wasn't pork.

why is that?

>Spaniards
>Teaching anyone sanitation
Topkek

>conversion to Christianity listed as a positive thing

>Mfw people landed in the "new world" and natives said they smelled like wet dogs and almost immediately afterwards were killed by new diseases, after most of them were dead and bread out of existence after rape they brought over their own slaves, justified slavery with the bible, and denied them the right to read, but you jerk your little dingdong thinking it was the right thing to do.

Thanks. This is like a month of reading at work and no ads to shit up the shitty security here.

I believe Plato commented on pesant fare in The Republic

>that image
this is somehow even worse than standard wewuzing

Paprika is also from the americas

Where's the guy who cooks for medieval LARP camps?

Did they tried to get rid of the evidence by eating the body of Christ it something?

Ancient Greeks and Romans were into this fish sauce called garum. It remained popular after the rise of Christianity and even into the Byzantine era, but was first developed during the classical age.

I'd really like to try some, personally.

A deeper type of gruel, obviously. Think chicago deep dish.

It was also the base of fermented drinks such as mead, and that was being madr further up north as well.

You canntry something very similar today, thai fish sauce and worcestershire sauce have the same base.

The child vaginas of tribes they conquered and raped, probably with acorns or some shit.

Don't eat blood soup, dude. Consuming blood can kill you or make you severely sick due to the nutrient density alone.

*tips fedora*

rabbit, wolf, deer, aurochs, boar, goat, ducks, chickens, whatever other kind of bird they could get their hands on, fish, fiddleheads, several kinds of berry, mushrooms, turnips, radishes, parsnips, beets, cabbage, wheat, barley, millet, cheese
and anything I missed that said

Pastinacs are superior to carrots anyway. No idea why carrots ever caught on.

Though probably some french gardener thought they looked really nice in a garden bed, same as most salads...

Well they would've, but Jeebus didn't travel outside Joodea.

Holy fuck I guess that empire that every western nation has been striving to emulate for the past 1500 years has all been for naught because of this post on an anonymous image board

>Christianity was arguably a net negative
Yeah how dare they unite the land and people and create stability.

Romans weren't conquered by Christians, they were mostly Christian themselves when they were overrun by Germanic pagans. They also weren't illiterate and did not practice human sacrifice. It's a dumb meme image but I think you misunderstood.

>they were mostly Christian themselves when they were overrun by Germanic pagans
You mean the Germans who had all converted to christianism at that point ?
I know you're trying to uncuck your civilization Hans but come on.

grains, parsnips(much later replaced in pretty much all things by the potato, because unlike parsnips, potatoes actually taste like food), asparagus, onions, garlic, mushrooms, and pretty much every single part of pigs, cows, and chickens.

Pre Christian Europe goes back tens of thousands of years, can't answer without specifiying before or after agriculture.

They wouldn't have eaten maize, that's for damn sure. That comes from the americas bitch.

*lights tiki torch*

Nu-Xtians are the 2010s version of new atheists.

They primarily grew dingleberries hence the name euroshit.

Neanderthal

seriously, what is going on with this shit? did this website get raided by country bumpkins over the past few years or what?

>ideas of sanitation

Amerindians would wash themselves at least twice a day, the ones without sanitation were the europeans, they used to wash themselves like twice a year in special occasions

that must be it

as we all know, culture only ever changes in one direction

Veeky Forums is, by its very nature, a contrarian's magnet. When atheism started catching on the internet it was already massified by 2012. Around 2013 the reaction to an extremely atheist internet started with nu-Christians, and actually that's really just a spot on the whole reason why there has been a resurgence in conservatism on Veeky Forums (and later other websites) the last few years. Give it a few years, the whole thing's gonna deflate soon, but it will come back.

They would have black pepper though through trade the Gauls even ransomed Rome for hundreds of tons of it when they sacked it.

>Clear conquistador caricature
>LARPagan goes off on one anyways

We grew up and accepted the truth, lad.
Also Veeky Forums is contrarian by its very nature and in an age of debauchery and hedonism tradition is heresy and the orthodox in faith become the truest of rebels.

I don't like lefties either but there's nothing cool or special about being a rebel.

When people say conservatism is the new counter-culture I just roll my eyes. Fetishization of outcast status and knee-jerk rejection of anything mainstream are dumb memes from the 60s.

>Mead was a common drink among northern Pagans and might be the oldest fermented beverage in general.
>implying babylonians were not making beer while your ancestors were rolling on the floor naked and covered in mud and feces

>Retarded LARPers truly believe representing the values of the catholic church and economical conservativism makes them a minority when they're still the principal ruling class on the whole of the western world
W E W
L A D

They ate each other. Cannibalism was normal

yea, all those G8 attendees who believe in abstinence until marriage...

what were you even trying to say?

Nice reading comprehension retard

>No idea why carrots ever caught on.
the fuck is wrong with you?

>because unlike parsnips, potatoes actually taste like food
get out of your shell, user, you might like it.

Orange carrots were made up in Netherlands in honour of the Queen.
Because orange is the country's colour.

It's like they've been high for centuries.

Do you think Jesus created the European Union or something?

After, obviously. We're talking about civilisation.

>they used to wash themselves like twice a year
They never washed, water made them sick. At least at one point in history that's what they believed.

Can't wait for neo-socialist Veeky Forums.

Are you lonely or something?

very

>unite the land and people and create stability
HAHAHAHAHAH no

The Celts had soap and they washed somewhat regularly compared to everyone else

Not all muslims

>did this website get raided by country bumpkins over the past few years or what?

Never heard of a little den of country autism called: /pol/? It's best just to ignore the flyovers, if you ignore them eventually they will go away.

What's your opinion about our current devotion to science and submission to economy, old chap?

and brimstone

but how did they all afford houses? LOL

You go to hell for being born in the wrong place and having no possible way to following the teachings of christianity?

Nice gOD.

Coffee as well

tomatoes an dpotatoes are not from europe, those are from when america was discovered

Thanks for the history lesson, brains.