Do they not realise we have to give up literally all of our luxuries? No more mobile phones, cars, cheap clothing, anything made of plastic, aeroplanes, modern medicine,computers etc.
It's literally impossible to achieve. Perhaps some would adapt to this lifestyle but we all know it's the extreme minority would. And even if we got the majority to live a simple life, MILLIONS would be unemployed and entire countries that rely on cheap labour (China,USA,EU,India) would have their economy so utterly destroyed that their civilisations would practically collapse.
It's just too late to do anything. Maybe it could have been prevented if we started awareness in the 60's.
>the 60s >the biggest environmental movement in history it's present day people that don't give a fuck But you're right we're in too deep, at the same time there's still hope if we cut our losses and do as much as we're willing to while still looking for some revolutionary idea(s) to fix it if all fails we can just do some large scale geoengineering (like using aerosols to increase albedo) so we're actually gonna be ok (not great) but the ecosystems will be fucked if we do nothing
Ryan Ramirez
>Might as well just die instead of change. We could easily change. Of course it requires a radical change but so do all our other ecological (social) problems. Literally we just need to end corporate command economies and states.
Carter Bell
It will never happen though. Even the people who cheer for it,most of them are hypocrites who wouldn't actually want to give up their luxuries.
Camden Hughes
We don't have to give up any luxuries. Corporations, the bourgeois, and states need to be dethroned. It seems you are caught up in the ethical consumerism nonsense, what needs to happen is the powers that force consumer economies into existence need to be crushed, which could easily happen if sheeple would just WAKE UP.
Isaiah Sullivan
on the bright side we have a pretty good answer to Fermi's paradox, probably all technological civilizations alter their homeworld's climate past its tipping point and kill themselves
Adrian Flores
No, we just need to kill most of people. Climate change will do it anyway.
Ryder Wilson
> Corporations, the bourgeois, and states need to be dethroned. Leftypol, please, leave. We all know that this actually means putting 90% tax on white male while finding women in science programs.
Ethan Young
Why is the narrative always about "stopping" it rather than mitigating it? Nobody seems to realize that the differences between a 1.5 degree increase, a 2 degree increase and, a 2.5 degree increase are quite significant. Anything we do to bring down that number is beneficial.
Luis Hughes
People will die, some people won't It's for the best, evolution always is right
Luis Collins
Taxation is theft. I don't see how you could possibly think that when I'm clearly not a statist. I could just as easily be a traditionalist for all you know(I'm not though)
Oliver Peterson
that's like saying gravity's always right Idk if it's right, it just is
Christian Morales
Yes it's unstoppable at this point. It's possible we'll survive, but many people will die when it really kicks off. I can only hope we will find a way to increase complexity and energy use after the crash.
Colton Rivera
>anarchists still not realizing in the year 2018 that removing the state gets you less, not more, freedom
Ryder Morales
What are you trying to imply here?
Angel Allen
Invest in China so they become a Developed country. After that we all work together to fix global warming.
Ethan Brown
>invest >in this economy You must be joshing me.
Elijah Cox
Yes it's too late and we're all going to die. Oops.
Justin Martin
We were always all going to die anyways.
Nolan Lewis
Can space colonies save us?
Levi Martinez
chinks need another 3 or 4 great leaps foward
Jack Hall
maybe for a few generations, but the moment things start breaking down due to old age, all the colonists will die horribly
Jack Morris
>science and engineering just stop entirely in space
Anthony Nelson
they won't be able to replace everything, and everything will start breaking after a hundred years one mistake or just bad luck with multiple failures is enough to kill everyone in a colony that has to keep pressurized atmosphere, water and food
Xavier Carter
>can't stop all global warming >therefore can't do anything Gee, really makes me think... that you're a shill.
Jonathan Young
So you really think there's no way in a century that anyone will get off their space ass and do anything? We're not talking about the ISS, we're talking about a self-sufficient space colony designed to allow humanity to survive without Earth.
Samuel Bennett
without having a breathable atmosphere, a biosphere and help when they really really need it to fall back on, i doubt it can last more than a few generations maybe by having more than just one, but then after a few hundred years maybe the morons will start fighting eachother
Josiah Gutierrez
>everything will start breaking after a hundred years >the moment things start breaking down due to old age, all the colonists will die horribly >then after a few hundred years Which is it?
Lincoln Nelson
all of them, don't you see that one fuckup, one or two things breaking at the wrong time, one insane guy and the whole thing goes up in flames, and a lot can happen in a hundred years isolated and permanently self-sustaining on another planet with no atmosphere i think is impossible, but it doesn't have to be isolated or completely self-sustaining
Josiah Myers
It's that they all die in a hundred years and then start infighting years after that?
Blake Nelson
shit dude, you got me, now they're all gonna live happily ever after with nothing bad ever happening
Henry Powell
>Corporations, the bourgeois
Why Veeky Forums is so anti-semite?
Jack Ramirez
We could stop it, but not with a carbon tax.
Adrian Perry
But we can stop all global warming; most estimates predict that using sulfur aerosols like picture related could stop any plausible warming effect in less than a year, at a cost of ~$20 billion annually. Granted, there would still be weather shifts, and this process would need to be continued for as long as there is excess CO2 in the air, since the aerosols wash out in six months or so. And there are other methods like sea brightening that would have a similar effect.
I fully expect the chinks to start doing this if their coastal cities are threaten by sufficiently serious flooding.
Kevin Walker
bourgeois does not mean what you think it means
Matthew Roberts
>taxation is theft Then paying for anything is theft. Paying 100 dollars of tax to the government is identical to paying 100 dollars to your mechanic ; currency exchanged for goods or service.
Henry Wilson
The difference is you can pick and choose which mechanic you want, or even if you want or don't want the mechanic's services.
You wouldn't want the mechanic's services if they took your money and destroyed your vehicle.
