What is consciousness?

real answer:
NO ONE REALLY FUCKING KNOWS

Can you tell me why though?

Thats the most fucking stupid attitude ive ever heard. Its literallu the same as that guy said. You have no justifcation to say that about consciousness as opposed to gravity.

Youre a fucking idiot.

I have no solution but say it is an epistemic problem of a subjective conscious agent, not an ontological one. All observations are confined within a (biological) context. Makes it paradoxical to make universal statements or explain certain things.

I say to you we have the same problem with physical things. What is matter or energy? What is their substance? Their definitions are completely functional. You can explain the world without a substance. Its all in constructs defined by interactions (which defines the easy problem in the brain). The hard problem is, metaphysically what is or how do we define this substance of matter. Or even is there one? We cant explain it by science because it uses interactional models. Completely functional. About prediction. Not substance. Cant prove anything.

Do you see what i mean?

We have a hard problem of matter as well as consciousness and from that view and the irrelevance of mental or physical "substance" to any scientific predictions then they are irrelevant problems. Science cant deal with them because it doesnt prove metaphysical things. Just relations between man made contructs i.e. particle or wave? Construct based on experience. And the meaningful thin about it? The equations... the relations.

Do you see what i mean?

And desu via p-zombie argument i think qualia is functionally inevitable. P-zombies would say they have qualia and why not. They are inference machines. Saying they dont have qualia is like saying they have no data to make inferences on.

Do you see what i mean?

a spook

If what i said in that long mssage is unclear, then i say, tell me.. what is matter? What is energy. You can tell me what it does in relation to other constructs like space or force or work (the latter two themselves are tautologous) but what are they? Matter in particular. There has to be something there to make interactions so what is it and how would we define it without referring to relations. We cant even measure it without that. We measure things by their consequences and behaviour e.g. perturbing a field etc etc.

Ive diverged again but yes.

What is matter and why? Isnt that a hard problem?

so refrigerators are conscious then

How would we know if say the Google network of servers were conscious? What makes us think it would want to talk or care about things like that?

real answer:
there's no such thing as consciousness
we're just sensory lifeforms, basic cognition, recall, fine motors skills
we're so dumb we think all that adds up to something magical
pathetic
we were wowed by iphones remember
and the same brain we're going to assume isn't wowed by something that we label "consciousness" but secretly talk about it being some higher state of elevated being like we have some deep thinking going on?
no, we're all surface
WE ARE ALL SURFACE
THERE IS NO FUCKING MYSTERY

they can't think
> energy
energy doesn't exist - like evolution science is quickly and silently revising it's own history on energy - decades of wrong teaching. energy is a label that proves how dumb we are.
more proof: 80% of top google results of entropy use the word up-side down, and it increase when they talk about high, low, increasing or decreasing entropy - 90% of all sites, explanations use the term incorrectly
evolution: used incorrectly, defined incorrectly, and now dawkins and others are silently redefining and wiping decades of dumb-as-shit incorrect teachings and definitions of evolution. they are morons, they religified (sic) evolution, showing their brain weaknesses
time: more proof - morons that talk about time without defining it - decades of incorrect talk on time, the common response is "well it's there in the numbers" to "it's a helper word" (like energy) - but they are desperate all to try and now work out if it exists (read the news on this) as it was a blind spot in knowledge - everyone assuming someone else knew - morons all
now you're going to say these morons, all of them morons, have a consciousness? why? because it's beyond your thinking?
SUGAR is beyond people's thinking.
The liver is beyond people's thinking.
Energy is beyond people's thinking.
Time is beyond people's thinking.
Evolution is beyond people's thinking. (get ready for the rick and morty crowd to go ackshually on this)
WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR _TIME_ TALKING ABOUT HOW OUR MINDS ARE WEAK AND HOW THAT RELATED TO OUR PERCEPTION OF "CONSCIOUSNESS" NOT VAIN, WEAK, IMPOTENT DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT "IT" IS.