What are low wage workers supposed to do when all their jobs are ultimately replaced by robots? Everything seems to be moving forward to a future where it's not a "what-if" scenario but a definite. And that definite is coming at an alarming rate.
t. a fagget who has been working at Walmart for 15 years and shitposting on Veeky Forums for about as long with the notion that everything would be fine. Even after people I knew who left for factory jobs ultimately came back to Walmart because their once-900-employee-company had downsized to 40-something because of automation. Retail just felt "safe", but with the onslaught of automatic label-scanning machines and backroom truck throwers, the Walmart ship is sinking exponentially.
I'm scared of the future, and I know it's my own fault, but I'm also pissed because all I hear is this talk of automation, but no clear answer for what the fuck those people in the retard job sector are going to do?
To be honest, dont worry about it. Worrying about it now makes no sense. You dont really know what will be in the future. If robots really replace a really high percentage of jobs, society will change. It happened in industry before, it will happen in other places.
Joseph Garcia
mass exploitation/culling or more optimistically a return to smaller enterprises where people simply choose to make their own goods, do their own thing, and ignore economics of scale. the amish have been doing it for centuries.
Jacob Young
unfortunately, the sort of goodwill, civic pride, and self-control (and yes, i will admit, religion) required to live this way has been ruthlessly beaten out of us for the past several decades by jews who think they know better.
to think that weird, catholic, mildly anti-semitic, even-weirder-than-me techy kid in high school was the only one with a clue... christ. we're fucked.
Grayson Evans
my power is maximum
Aiden Ramirez
well what do you think then?
Isaac Miller
universal basic income. it might not be fair, but it would be more moral than to let millions of people starve because nojobs
Ethan Smith
>has been ruthlessly beaten out of us for the past several decades by people who think they know better.
Angel Sanders
I'll be running for President in the future and I'll create a policy that if your job gets replaced by a robot then the government will pay you a lifelong salary so you don't have to work any more.
Oliver Thompson
and even if most people have it in them to live this way without a massive global economy and maintain a somewhat modern standard of living, i doubt that the majority of blacks will be able to cope well. more likely than not, we'll see a lot of authoritarian policies and media spin to prevent this sort of collapse.
Isaiah Wood
>What are low wage workers supposed to do when all their jobs are ultimately replaced by robots?
Starve to Death
Michael Hughes
Maybe I'm just not seeing the bigger picture, but how has it happened before in such a way that would reflect the future?
I could understand things like the invention of tractors making life easier, but taking the place of a bunch of farmhands. Or the invention of the printing press - the ability for books to be readily mass-produced more easily as opposed to a bunch of guys painstakingly hand-copying books or someshit. Things like that may have replaced those kinds of menial jobs, but you still needed people to kind of operate said tractors and printing presses.
Here, you've got people who basically only know how to flip burgers or stock shelves (the retard sector of jobs). If they're replaced by burger-flipping, shelf-stocking robots, are you going to expect those in the retard sector to get properly educated to run complex machinery that has replaced them?
I feel like I'm missing the big picture in all of this.
Christopher Bennett
>universal basic income
who's paying for UBI? you can't stop people from living the way they want to live. if people are forced into a lower standard of living than they can carve out without the help of the government, they will go their own way, make their own things. just look at the "off the grid" and "prepper" trends that whites love so much. that's what you're gonna see. those people aren't going to pay for UBI.
>but it would be more moral than to let millions of people starve because nojobs
people aren't going to starve because of nojobs. we can, and have, made our own way without a massive global economy for millennia.
Luis Johnson
The thing is industry jobs were "retard sector" as well, all the people who got replaced by robots there were not well educated, they were simple people like the service sector workers today. But somehow their children and grandchildren got into other jobs and I might be too optimistic but I believe that will happen again.
John Wood
buy stocks of companies dealing in automatization
Brody Sullivan
Dont do this! Very few of these companies are safe bets. Its like solar energy etc. Very risky unless you bet on already big companies who also got into automatization processes.
in other words, people will tend toward living the sort of lifestyle they can maintain without help beyond the help they can get from their neighbors.
to force UBI will bring untold suffering. i'm all for helping out my neighbor, i'm all for charity, i'm all for the sort of tight-knit self-reliant communities. what i'm not for is an enormous authoritarian government siphoning the life out of people who are just trying to make their own way.
Juan Jackson
>low wage workers the robots will replace the CEOs and whatnot
Asher Wilson
>>has been ruthlessly beaten out of us for the past several decades by people who think they know better.
let's not beat around the bush here. we all know it's jews. it's spelled out, clear as day in "a culture of critique". the book clearly explains the reason behind so many disturbing trends i've observed over the years. trying to find those answers is what led me back here in the first place.
Michael Howard
But back then you could go right out of high school and get a job in a factory or mine or something where you could work for 40 years and retire. Even if it was menial work, a lot of people were on the same level at that point.
Now you need years of post-high school education and 2+ years of experience to pursue a particular field of interest to even get close to that feeling of getting that 40+ year career and retiring with benefits and severance and shit.
But at least there was the retard sector to fall on. High school diploma or hell, a drop-out? Work at the gas station, pour coffee, bus tables, at least there's something. But from the sounds of things, there are people who want to get rid of that entire sector of jobs in lieu of robots.
For years the internet meme of a robot uprising was in the Terminator sense - at least that was scary in an exciting way. But it's like that world is becoming a reality in a different-scary way.
Samuel Turner
There is a book about it, it must be true. I expect these things on /pol/ or /b/ but not on the SFW Boards.
and i don't even mind "socialism" necessarily. but that's not what i'm seeing here. i'm seeing people being taken advantage of, people being told lies.
Brody Diaz
at some point, something's gotta give. i definitely don't want to be in the way of that something when it does.
Elijah Long
This is about Zionism, there are of course good Jewish people too.
Jaxson Harris
yeah i know. some of my favorite professors are jewish. i have nothing against them, they're great.
Robert Jackson
Culture of Critique was about how capitalism degrades culture and exploits people, not about how to control the world and destroy civilization.
Brody Torres
i'm sure the real picture is much more complicated than i understand too. how the USA will deal with it and how other countries will respond, that sort of thing.
Aiden Fisher
/pol/ often blames the Jews >and cnn often blames Russia.
But in fact the richest elite in the world aren't even the Jewish Bankers.
Jewish Bankers are just Employees of the True Elite.
The True Elite are the Royal Families of United Kingdom, Netherlands, Sweden, Spain, and former Austro-Hungarian Empire & France.
The heirs of former Austro-Hungarian Empire & France live in the German & French part of Switzerland by the way.
They are more powerful than EU, USA & Vatican.
And their huge wealth make Jewish bankers look like Hobos. And remember Wealth is the true Power.
>who's paying for ubi? taxes of people who own all the robots
Nathan Collins
specifically, it was about the self-serving tendency of jews to be poor citizens by refusing to assimilate and asserting harmful political and cultural influence.
Ayden Carter
Service industry jobs probably won't be going anywhere any time soon. The jobs to worry about in the near future are white collar data analysis type jobs.
Jack Butler
Continuing:
Wealth is the true source of Power.
Because Wealth can bribe Politicians and keep them under control as Puppets / Employees.
Universal income, you'll be given an allowance that will provide decent living due to the fact that nothing will cost much anymore due to the machines doing everything for us.
Bentley Brooks
>Universal income
>‘I can’t survive on £500 a week benefits!’: Single mother-of-eight says her children may end up on the streets after she had her benefits capped >A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in state handouts has complained she is struggling to make ends meet. >Marie Buchan, 31, whose children range in age from 12 to two months, lives in a three-bedroom housing association house in Selly Oak, Birmingham, but says it's not big enough and has applied for a bigger one. >And she says her benefits payments, which were reduced from £582 a week to £500 a week in September after the government introduced a cap on handouts, are not enough for her family to survive on.
what's the point of these posts? just because I despise someone and their ways of living doesn't mean I think they don't deserve to live because I'm not a raging sperg
Luke Torres
>The government is going to hit me with a tax for using robots in my business? >Time to move my operation then
Ethan King
>What are low wage workers supposed to do when all their jobs are ultimately replaced by robots?
Doomsday Prepping until the upcoming Civil War when everyone will fight for survival,
Killing each other with guns, reducing the surplus of population, where only the strongest remains.
is this honestly a better solution than simply coming out and saying, "hey, we're gonna blacks to have fewer kids and everyone else to have more if this is gonna work".
Jordan Green
I never said it was a good solution, simply that it was very plausible.
Ryan Flores
it's why we young adults should not graduate in easy subjects such as History and Biology anymore.
We Young adults should pick hard subjects who are more valuable to employees such as Electrical Engineering, Aerospace Engineering, Applied Math or Solid State Physics
If you wanna become a Medical Doctor pick a BSc Physical Chemistry as Premed Major instead of Brainlet tier Biology.
The future is uncertain. But 1 thing is clearly certain, there will be a lot more competition for fewer jobs.
Zachary Johnson
>there will be a lot more competition for fewer jobs.
precisely why mass immigration is toxic. importing talent or labor deprives one country and promotes ruthless competition in the other. it's evil.
Adrian Flores
It's evil.
Large corporations only want cheap labor force for profit, bribing politicians to push cheap immigrants to the Western countries. What get's me mad it's because isn't a natural process, it's forced & imposed by our government which should protect us.
There will be ruthless competition.
The only thing we can do besides participating in a larger political movement is to qualify ourselves enough to the point that our jobs can't be replaced by others or by machines (for awhile).
Gabriel Miller
right wing death squads
Henry King
America just starting working on the fix. They just ok labs to work with cold and flu virals to create new ones that are extremely contiguous.Depopulation is the easy answer.
Gabriel Williams
How about you make an effort and learn a skill you fucking retard
Austin Jones
>Depopulation by Virus Nice. But do you have enough money to buy the antidote/cure?
Nature does by her self all the time. Dog flu witch humans can not get sick from just made its way to canada this year. But the virus can still infect a human and if that human has a cold the two viral exchange dna and create a new virus no human is immune to.
Oliver Bennett
The economies that have the highest percentage of automated work are sweden, germany, japan and korea. All of these have very low unemployment rate, while an economy with much less automisation like greece suffers heavily from unemployment.
Robots increase productivity, not unemployment.
James Ward
We will need to create a democratic socialist society. Think about these corporations making use of automation. Does the CEO know anything about artificial intelligence and robotics? Do the shareholders have even the slightest clue about what a DNN is or how to even implement a fucking Bubble Sort?
No, they have no idea. Their "achievements" are completely and utterly firmly rooted upon the shoulders of millions of giants who were paid petty wages.
Once we enter a post-scarcity society, the ethics of the government situation will start to surround one fundamental question: >Who gets to be in power?
The people, or people who were born into wealth or built things upon the shoulders of long-dead giants? I say the people, I say humanity, I say all life itself.
Does this mean everyone should receive equal pittance wages for their work? No, but it means that life on Earth must be provided for if it can be, and then what remains can be distributed to the most successful and ambitious people.
I say this as a high earner who likely makes significantly more than most people in this thread by the way
China makes everything you moron you can not use China as a example for the rest of the world.
Adam Torres
So nothing will change except people might not go hungry. No thanks.
Kevin Gray
Infact that creates populations to sky rocket. Double no thanks.
Elijah Ramirez
Only if you allow conservatives to routinely spread propaganda regarding safe sex procedures and limit access to sexual healthcare for women, like abortions and free condoms and birth control.
Jeremiah Garcia
I see you want a one world government. Day of the rope for you then.
Connor Phillips
If we're talking about a world where unskilled labor has 0 value... It's about what the upper class will do. >Weath sharing reforms combined with sizable population control measures intended to give the worthless and unskilled a modest life while preventing too many of them from ever existing Where anyone who wants to hop off the welfare state and make some emone has to get a university education and become useful to the machine in some way.
Or, killing the poor. Which i'm extremely worried about. Because it would require no overt action on their part. They are not sending bombs to the slums. They will simply create their own highly insular communities where CURRENT private property laws completely defend their right to hoard the bounties of automation. They live in gated, guarded communities where the streets are paved with gold. The stupid and the unskilled live in our slums, where they could be arrested at any time, get sick and die, simply starve. No one will hire them and they have no material means to provide for themselves. Even if they started a business, there is no one to buy anything. The Engineer class will live somewhere in the middle, probably as Knights once served kings, STEMfags will serve the masters of automation.
The scariest part about scenario II is that it is already happening and we have been moving towards it since, I think, the end of WW2.
I'm pretty sure I never said anything like that, but have fun with your straw man arguments you mentally deficient troglodyte
Christian Bell
The complete opposite, babyboomers going into retirement means lots and lots of really nice jobs that need to be filled.
Jonathan Adams
Been the plan all along.
Adam Cook
But for that to work they have to have a one world goverment or they will eat each other trying to rise to power. Thier is not a other way. Unless they plan to fight it out for the Thorne.
Mason Morgan
>Implying that Baby boomers current jobs will not be automated and replaced by robots instead of younger people.
Colton Hill
Love you to :3
Hudson Flores
Geriatrics is booming. Lot's of new jobs for Nurses wiping the shit from Babyboomers asses.
Also brace yourselves for Life extension medication that will prolong the life of Old people making them retire later.
The retarded ones would simply have a non-automised economy on their own. The lords of the robots will probably not own 100% of the land, so there is plenty of space where non-automised markets will emerge. You will have super highly-developed markets with lots of robots that are extremely wealthy and most people can follow self-fullfillment jobs (like blogger or photographer) and then you are going to have underdeveloped markets where most people are substinence farmers.
Oh wait, this is exactly what the global economy already looks like.
Kayden Scott
AI is more of a threat to jobs then robots. Countless jobs can be job with algorithms. And they are being created right now and are way better at doing the job of a human.
Aiden Cruz
Ai will take over media photography pays shit allready so no. Farming will be fully automated in green houses. But hey nice effort sweety.
Samuel Walker
t. Luddite
Joseph Foster
Luxury Automated Gay Space Communism
Juan Rodriguez
>arguing with libertardians
Tyler James
how are you going to have small farmers when big corpos own all of the resources? there are us towns that lose lawsuits against nestle for access to a water source in this day and age
Nathan Anderson
Fight back now or lose everything. Simple as that.
Jose Rogers
not sure whether I should lament your naïvety or congratulate you on your optimism
Wyatt Cooper
How though. Just saying "fight back" doesn't dissolve the corporatism legal system, doesn't magically grant you property or liberty, and doesn't stop the cops from shooting you when you defy the rules.
Stop going to work by the millions take the power back goverment is rotten to the core. Once they dont need us we are dead plain simple truth.
Camden Sanders
>Or, killing the poor. Which i'm extremely worried about. >The stupid and the unskilled live in our slums, where they could be arrested at any time, get sick and die, simply starve. No one will hire them and they have no material means to provide for themselves. Even if they started a business, there is no one to buy anything.
Now you see why the time is right to start questioning the left's recent obsession with the encouragement of unbridled immigration, which results in a bunch of unhappy foreigners mooching off the "gibs" handout system.
Here in the US, we have our own dumb, talentless citizens to worry about employing in the face of automation.
good luck mobilising millions of people, most of whom have families to feed, to stop going to work for a greater cause
Jeremiah Walker
new jobs when cars were first invented, nobody knew how the fuck they worked now any redneck retard with a wrench and two working hands can fix his truck
They starve also. Its a lose lose and theu only way. Trust me they are evil as fuck and once they have the ability to no longer need 10 billion people the PURGE down to a few million begins.
Dylan Richardson
ITT: lazy millennials talk about evading the Coast Guard eating mercury-tainted fish as a substitute for doing some basic research, getting off their asses, and learning a fucking trade.
>Government taxes based on citizenship instead of residency. >Government signs agreements with other developed countries to uphold that policy regardless of where their citizens are. >Only way to escape is to either live in a literal failed state or be a stateless vagabond. >Both conditions leave you worse off than if you had just stayed put. A future with widespread unemployment because of robots is a future with widespread powers of tax collection.
