>I bet you don't. Then you'd be wrong. I've had some psychiatric problems. Also I've had friends and family with cancer, one in particular had spinal cancer secondary to breast cancer, she went into remission and has been for the past decade.
Also given the advances made in the past few years I find it hard to say that healthcare is a joke. Go back to even to within my grandmothers lifetime, and hospitals were more of a place people went to die than to get better.
Logan Hernandez
That's also a non-argument, a circular argument, a logical fallacy, because as you said serious health problem by definition puts it beyond what healthcare can achieve, therefore forget I ever used that word, because that was obviously not the point of this thread. Plus there's more to it than that. I can't be bothered to explain in detail, but as I said, in my experience healthcare is a total joke. I've talked to many doctors. I still don't have ANY clue what is wrong with me, plus many doctors were assholes. For example one took it very personally when I asked if my problem was rare. She didn't even give me a straight answer, because she couldn't stand being in a light where she is not all-knowing. I just wanted to fucking get a straight answer if my problem is rare. I just have to assume it is rare.
William Murphy
But your idea of an immature argument is identical to your statement in the OP, but in reverse.
healthcare isn't great. We don't understand how to individualise therapy, how to target specific areas well, how to diagnose quickly and with certainty. Not to mention the efficacy of drugs used and the bureaucracy on which the system runs. But it's the best it's ever been. The fact it still can't handle many problems is not a conspiracy of doctors hiding true healthcare from you. It's a matter of ongoing development.
Samuel Wood
>But your idea of an immature argument is identical to your statement in the OP, but in reverse. No it's not, because my OP is a proposition to be debated, not an argument. >But it's the best it's ever been. The fact it still can't handle many problems is not a conspiracy of doctors hiding true healthcare from you. It's a matter of ongoing development. You're just pulling this out of your ass.
Tyler Jackson
No, saying it's shit and that anyone who says otherwise is wrong because of your own assumptions is called an assertion.
It's a fact medicine is in ongoing development. It's a fact that we can treat more than we ever could before. You've got a far heavier burden to prove if you want to blame your dissatisfaction on a conspiracy.
Joshua Stewart
You sound mentally ill.
Kevin Stewart
>is called an assertion All propositions/hypotheses are assertions. Debates generally begin with an assertion/proposition/claim. The debate is then about putting forth arguments for and against the assertion/proposition/claim. My main argument is my personal experience. You people's main argument is pulled out of your ass, regurgitated from someone who told you everything is fine. Reminds me of George Carlin's sketch where he says "Go back to sleep America, everything is fine", Bill Hicks said something similar in his sketches.
Luis Bailey
ad hominem
Brody Edwards
Not an attack, just an observation.
Carter Allen
Still ad hominem and doesn't add shit to the discussion. Learn basic logic.