How long would it take to breed octopi up to human levels of intelligence (enough to create and maintain their own civilization)?
How long would it take to breed octopi up to human levels of intelligence (enough to create and maintain their own...
Carson Ramirez
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Andrew Perez
i dont know but we should probably pay someone at berkeley
Jonathan Smith
to find out
Gavin Young
>octopi
Jose Martin
how long it
Luis Davis
long it how
Nolan Lopez
uh
0 years
because it already happened
moron
Austin Anderson
octopi overlords when?
Alexander Price
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>Provolution is a term for the use of technology to enhance or augment the intelligence of a non-sentient species to full sentience.
Carson Thompson
>Octopuses and other coleoid cephalopods are capable of greater RNA editing (which involves changes to the nucleic acid sequence of the primary transcript of RNA molecules) than any other organisms. Editing is concentrated in the nervous system and affects proteins involved in neural excitability and neuronal morphology. More than 60% of RNA transcripts for coleoid brains are recoded by editing, compared to less than 1% for a human or fruit fly. Coleoids rely mostly on ADAR enzymes for RNA editing, which requires large double-stranded RNA structures to flank to the editing sites. Both the structures and editing sites are conserved in the coleoid genome and the mutation rates for the sites are severely hampered. Hence, greater transcriptome plasticity has come as the cost of slower genome evolution.
Way too long for it to even be worth trying to do. Octopuses have a poor physiology for forcing quick and deliberate evolution. They’ve been around and changed very little in about 300 million years of existence, while the shrews became Humans in only 66 million years.
Christian Price
That's a pity. What are the next best candidates for Ascension, besides apes?
Jack Lopez
That's very interesting.
Not often I learn something worthwhile from Veeky Forums.
Thanks.
Jaxson Walker
Joshua Evans
Any already intelligent and decently sized mammal basically. They all evolve relatively fast and have live childbirth which is an advantage over birds in maximizing prenatal brain development.
Dolphins would probably be your best bet if you could give them some sort of cybernetic arms to assist them.
Connor Roberts
don't elephants have superior genetic memories?
I wonder what the limits of it are. Could you teach an elephant language skills, then the next in line of succession inherite the language skills, and learn reading/writing. Then the next in the line start memorizing encyclopedias. Eventually creating herds of literal walking encyclopedia pachyderms
John Adams
Pretty long time since you'd need to get their life expectancy up quite a bit first.
It is from Greek so the "i" is plural.
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The ironic thing is that people like to sound smart and say:
"But, only Latin uses i for plurals so it is octopuses." - t someone who doesn't know shit about Greek or Latin
Daniel Ward
Elephants are smart, but they’re so damn big, clunky, and slow that creating and maintaining a civilization would be physically difficult for them. The roadblocks to starting civilization for Humans were not just brain related. We also have a great physical body for manipulating nature to our mold.
Easton Gutierrez
octopie are solitary
try cuttlefish (mmm calamari) instead
Alexander Green
>Could you teach an elephant language skills, then the next in line of succession inherite the language skills
That's not how biology works.
Liam Fisher
yes it is. There are some basic communication that all humans are born understanding. Smiles, laughter, grunts of pain, sobbing, sheiks of terror.
We're born with these very basic "words" of sorts. There are certain phobias that we gain at birth that are thought to be inherited form ancestors.
Elephants can pass more knowledge than usual to their offspring using DNA. Specifically mapping data such as finding watering holes that are centuries old or ancient elephant grave-sites.
All I was asking is do we even know what's the limit of knowledge that they can pass on?
Zachary Smith
Can't because theyre water dwelling creatures so they cannot into metallurgy and building.
Josiah Myers
>There are some basic communication that all humans are born understanding. Smiles, laughter, grunts of pain, sobbing, sheiks of terror.
Dogs are acutely sensitive to these kinds of emotions in humans too, far more than chimps or elephants despite being less intelligent because they’ve evolved alongside humans for so long. Dogs are arguably the most human creatures on Earth besides humans.
Levi Taylor
>How long would it take to breed octopi up to human levels of intelligence
it will literally never happen...
The second they start questioning government propaganda, the program will be scrapped.
Caleb Turner
You can't because an octopus brain is a doughnut shape with its esophagus passing through the middle. Their brain's can't get bigger without restricting their ability to eat.
Jason Sullivan
No, user. The plural of πους is not πι. It is ποδες. So the greek plural would be octopodes. Did you even look at the link you posted?
Evan Hughes
They whelm the average shitposter already today.